Losi Promoto MX 4S Has 2 bad Crashes On Speed Passes,How strong Is this Rc?

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Earl Moorhead

Earl Moorhead

9 ай бұрын

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@kenknox6424
@kenknox6424 9 ай бұрын
I’m glad you’re doing it on Sunday’s now - Hardly any Traffic- like another who calls his Super Speed Sundays I also see where you commented positively on Jay Mitch rc Way to gov
@kenknox6424
@kenknox6424 9 ай бұрын
Way to go not gov
@huck462
@huck462 9 ай бұрын
I think if your ever gonna hit 100mpg your going to have to get a longer Swing Arm or a wheelie bar
@L2theWcarscoffeelife
@L2theWcarscoffeelife 9 ай бұрын
Been out camping getting caught up good to see you get faster. My Promoto is starting to have steering issues as well it turns great to the right but to the left its not going I see a lot of slop in the servo saver this looks like one problem that Losi needs to address with these
@Bluecuban71
@Bluecuban71 9 ай бұрын
I'm back 😂 Great series, you definitely are going to get over 100 mph very soon 💯💯💯
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Yes will get there 💯
@andrewmagro7703
@andrewmagro7703 9 ай бұрын
always happy to give my friend in Cali
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate your support 🙏💯
@williamoleary9330
@williamoleary9330 9 ай бұрын
75mph!!! Earl you’ve got her dialed in. That beast just looks incredible wizzing by!
@nofreerides7033
@nofreerides7033 9 ай бұрын
Can’t believe that thing still working after those crashes…
@spenn2007
@spenn2007 9 ай бұрын
That second tumble had me dying 🤣, the rider sure does keep that RC from getting destroyed. Maybe adding some weight to the rider i.e. gorilla taping his arms or upper body, Or buy some Vitavon parts? I honestly didn't believe you'd reach 75, so try and go for 80.
@daquonmason1307
@daquonmason1307 9 ай бұрын
Got to love when a RC says eject they love to throw stuff expecially batteries in GPS
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Right lol
@jeremystewart1785
@jeremystewart1785 9 ай бұрын
Those were a couple good tumbles. Cant all be sucsessfull but still a learning experence. Look forward to the next one
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your support 🙏💯
@readeracingRC
@readeracingRC 9 ай бұрын
Dude back in the day. (Racing days) What you describe was what we called head shake. The bike violently shake. This is what we did to stop that from happening. Just food for thought. Bikes today don't headshake like they used to. Start with servicing your suspension. But lowering your tubes in the clamps will help as well as slowing down your rebound. You might also check and make sure your clickers are set the same on both forks. Have Fun
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Yes they don’t have adjustment clickers on top and you can’t drop them as they hit the fake bars but I will lower then inside limiting travel and add weight to the forks to keep the from firm on the ground avc tries to keep it straight so in the air it will servo shake violently
@readeracingRC
@readeracingRC 9 ай бұрын
Can you put a wheelie bar on it. To keep the front wheel from going over a few mm off the ground? My 2¢
@RON4RC
@RON4RC 9 ай бұрын
Another great run Earl .... definitely getting there... 100% yes that avc is a torture....
@xtremerc6797
@xtremerc6797 9 ай бұрын
The progress is insane!
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate your support 🙏💯
@TRBOQUIK6
@TRBOQUIK6 9 ай бұрын
Dude. I like seeing the progression and R&D testing with it on your quest to 100mph. Great job! How difficult would it be to lower the cg of the entire bike? You are probably at a point where some type of spoilers to keep the downforce more significant are going to have to be fabricated and mounted some how. But doing that, the bike may take flight. Lol. None the less, this is pretty cool to watch the progression. 👍
@JIPPERR_1
@JIPPERR_1 9 ай бұрын
Ooph! Tough day at the office. Tough rc for sure though. Would be interesting to have an onboard camera to see whats happening during the run. It better be a tough one though 😛
@williamoleary9330
@williamoleary9330 9 ай бұрын
My apologies 76mph!!! I mean holy blank! That is fast as blank!
@ooze1016
@ooze1016 9 ай бұрын
I also think you should give it an off road run in one of your speed run parks that will be interesting to see if the front would still lift with less traction. Maybe the park you hard the 100mph biuld on
@clean1566
@clean1566 9 ай бұрын
Nice video Earl! Bummer about the road rash! Been trying to keep up with you on this one, since we got ours about the same time. Don't think I'll be doing this, but the journey is a great one to follow. Plus, it's not my bike getting trashed! Lol Just a thought about keeping the front end down. How about manufacturing a small spoiler out of sheet metal, and screwing it in place of front fender. Been watching MotoGP, and how they're using spoilers to keep their. front ends down. Keep up the nice work!
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
It’s not air flipping it it’s the punch level of the esc and the light front end
@clean1566
@clean1566 9 ай бұрын
Not to be argumentative, but that's why they do it on Moto GP bikes. Granted, they also have full fairings, but the little winglets they run, create a lot of downforce. But in your case, you probably have an inordinate amount of power to weight! Good luck, and will keep following your journey to 100MPH. LOVE my Promoto!@@earlmoorhead5555
@wasa7
@wasa7 9 ай бұрын
It still hasn’t arrived in the Uk yet. 😢
@MrBumbles2
@MrBumbles2 9 ай бұрын
waitng for some after market accs,,, be nice to be able to get a ext , swingarm , and shorter forks and make a drag bike
@TheDudeRc
@TheDudeRc 9 ай бұрын
Still enjoying these! On Amazon there is a aluminum swingarm thats 30mm longer with longer chain. Seems like the extra length would do the bike some good and keep that nose down!
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the support 👍the longer arm was $200.00 shipped with tax from vitavon seems expensive for whatcha getting 🤷🏻‍♂️
@jsnjcnt
@jsnjcnt 9 ай бұрын
@@earlmoorhead5555 yeah real expensive. Is the original one aluminum?
@jsnjcnt
@jsnjcnt 9 ай бұрын
You could put some stick on automotive wheel weights under the front fender. Get some from your local tire shop. Stack them on there till it stops popping up so easy.
@jsnjcnt
@jsnjcnt 9 ай бұрын
And you can just peel off the weights if you dont like it. That thing is crazy fast. I bet the knobby tire has a little slippage too compared to the street tire. Your videos are cool, thx.
@toddo9043
@toddo9043 9 ай бұрын
Let's goooooo!!!!!!!
@michaelvankirk3576
@michaelvankirk3576 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your continued support 🙏💯
@henryfoster3212
@henryfoster3212 9 ай бұрын
Earl Cool idea to put the Nabis in the back I believe it might improve the runtime🔧👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@1eightrcracing
@1eightrcracing 9 ай бұрын
A stretch rear fork would help alot
@ridindirtyrc
@ridindirtyrc 9 ай бұрын
Been a long wait just got my promotion today
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Nice 👍
@tonyrogers1683
@tonyrogers1683 9 ай бұрын
And i hate to say it, but i will... on the losi mx, the receiver and transmitter are proprietary for that rc. Its tuned for the product. If your signal gets lost at them distances, try threading the Rx antenna to the outside the body plastic, and try to put it in the upright position. Its worth a try ? And if the original radio system is failing, contact Horizon Hobbies.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
The antenna not but an inch and a half long it’s tiny
@ooze1016
@ooze1016 9 ай бұрын
I am speechless I don't know what to say but I definitely see whats happening .I don't get wheel wobbly and no matter how I try my front wheel don't leave the ground at high speed i am still on the 70mph setup front fender still on just can't understand.
@pstarxxx78
@pstarxxx78 8 ай бұрын
What’s funny is a Suzuki DR650 will get wobbly around 80mph. I always blamed 2 things. Front fender and tires. I have 2 of them. One has street tires on it and a wind shield. It’s never wobbled. The other one has off road tires. No windshield. It will wobble at high speed. So maybe no front fended and a windshield will help the rc not wobble. Or maybe just a wind shield ? That rider is catching a lot of wind like a parachute.
@jezuzmowsmylawn
@jezuzmowsmylawn 9 ай бұрын
Have you thought about changing your radio out? I like my Flysky Noble NB4 Pro, it has excellent range and also has a setting to gradually ramp the throttle up to 100%, adjustable from 0 to 10 seconds by one one hundredth of a second increments. It is like the perfect pass throttle adapter but just built in to the radio. Speed runners have been using it and setting it for around 7 seconds. Also, I'm not sure were your punch is, but you probably already know to keep it at 1 for speed runs.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
As this rc has flight teck in it if the receiver is replaced all the cool features of this bike are gone and it won’t operate correctly can’t just replace the radio in the promoto Mx
@jaymitchrc
@jaymitchrc 9 ай бұрын
Nice runs. This moto can take some really hard bumps and not break anything they are super durable.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Yes
@williamoleary9330
@williamoleary9330 9 ай бұрын
You’ve had an Evel Knievel crash on that one
@trife74
@trife74 5 ай бұрын
My bike does almost 60 on 2s “ I just changed the motor .. ?
@williamoleary9330
@williamoleary9330 9 ай бұрын
Wait until that limey gets a hold of this thing. I am not looking forward to that 🇺🇸
@richsaak
@richsaak 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps some front aero or custom front fairing..
@richsaak
@richsaak 9 ай бұрын
You are engineering a mini superbike sir.
@barryking8966
@barryking8966 9 ай бұрын
Just curious, have you tried a throttle curve or expo on the radio ?
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
If you notice there is no expo on the aircraft tec from the update on motorcycle it won’t allow it
@maxxm.108
@maxxm.108 9 ай бұрын
​@@earlmoorhead5555maybe "perfect pass" launch control from @Raz_Shifrin would help?
@AdamSaltFPV
@AdamSaltFPV 9 ай бұрын
Earl, I love what you’re doing and how you’re pushing the envelope. That being said, I really need you to hear what I say next. THERE IS NO AVC. There is no separation between the flywheel, the “gyro” (ms6x), the motor and the steering servo. As in, the system takes into account what you are trying to get the bike to achieve, and the calculates steering and throttle input to send to the motor and servo. The issues you are having, both the flipping at high speed, and the steering wobbles are a direct result of the ms6x trying to control the bike as though there are 8.4v-9v max, but instead it’s sending all 16.8v to it so it can’t respond correctly. The long and the short of it is, 3s is pushing the ms6x, 4s pushes right past it. The PID loops in the ms6x need to be retuned to a 4s system, along with the dynamic filtering. The speed isn’t what’s messing with everything, it’s the over volting of the system. Try a 6.5t on 3s with a smaller rear sprocket to get to 100.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
100 percent there is steering is not wired into the gyro at all 💯avc steering control is programmed into the receiver 💯the gyro is a esc motor all in one unit avc ( steering control throttle cut ) are in the receiver it’s been around with arrma and horizon a long time 💯
@AdamSaltFPV
@AdamSaltFPV 9 ай бұрын
@@earlmoorhead5555 unfortunately that is not the case with the ms6x. Losi spent 3 of the 6 years of the Promoto’s r&d on the programming and tuning of the ms6x alone. It’s an entirely new thing that is closer to a drone controller than an rx with a gyro. I’m not trying to fight with you Earl, I just want you to understand the system you’re working with to better get the speed you’re looking for. If you can get 65mph with a 8.5t on 2s, just imagine what a 6.5t on 3s will do.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
@@AdamSaltFPV idk if you listen to the pod cast they had but the rc was truly dialed in except for the turning issue they fought with for over a year as this rc was devolved as a road bike and the two ppl took that non working platform and started modifying it for off road use even as an on road bike the thing just wouldn’t turn all the programming is in the receiver the gyro esc combo just spins a weight they had to keep modifying speed and how heavy it should be to just allow it to turn
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
@AdamSaltFPV kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qs6IrdeVx6jHZXU.htmlsi=TWpbv7hF9Ur7ZaEU
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qs6IrdeVx6jHZXU.htmlsi=TWpbv7hF9Ur7ZaEU great podcast explaining there struggles
@Vflying
@Vflying 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps a lightweight single wheel wheelie bar rather than weights?
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Weights first as it an easy cheaper solution
@randythompson1723
@randythompson1723 9 ай бұрын
😎💯💯💯
@marksaxton4760
@marksaxton4760 9 ай бұрын
Yes, more like Earl Knievel. 😊
@TheSpeedrunRookie
@TheSpeedrunRookie 9 ай бұрын
🤙🏽
@mrt2866
@mrt2866 9 ай бұрын
try slackening off the slipper cluch to stop it from wheelying
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Yes as I said in the video 💯👍
@Dugnew
@Dugnew 9 ай бұрын
Weight on the front won’t help much,you need to make a carbon wheelie bar,and mount it to the swing arm
@did3d523
@did3d523 9 ай бұрын
where are the protect elbow?
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Forgot to install them on the New Jersey
@Nino-hd3sp
@Nino-hd3sp 6 ай бұрын
toi c est LV bas moi c ezt KV Hooo!!!! man!!!😎
@Nino-hd3sp
@Nino-hd3sp 6 ай бұрын
Oh fette la mars 1/18 eme poi puissance plus tp power 2020 7050kv ((2s 125 klh ))((3s 160klmh)) 60a quikrun teste tu verra avec giroscope gente 0.30kg AV &0.15 AR.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 6 ай бұрын
Speed not the issue gyro on 2s all the time it’s the front tire shake ( speed wobble ) I can’t get rid of the shaking 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Nino-hd3sp
@Nino-hd3sp 6 ай бұрын
en plus toi tu i mais 1 (120a ) en plus en 4s pour faire selement 76ml.tu rigole mon potte moi g 3s 60a stoc couroi ! 160😎😎😤😤
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 6 ай бұрын
Glad you figured it out power not the issue and now gears are available back when this was made it’s the speed wobble and gears
@did3d523
@did3d523 9 ай бұрын
72 mph= 117 kmh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Nino-hd3sp
@Nino-hd3sp 6 ай бұрын
et quand tu zoume avec la camerra video et pourri.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 6 ай бұрын
Yes changed camera and using a wide angle lens now
@michaelvoorhees5978
@michaelvoorhees5978 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the front fender give you some down force?
@tonyrogers1683
@tonyrogers1683 9 ай бұрын
Please don't put weight on the forks. If it's getting hot, remove the vent covers... if you want less AVC, turn the knob all the way clockwise. And yes... hit them brakes going straight, then make your return run. I'm just saying... love your attempt for rocket speed.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
There no know on the DX5 but the settings at zero already doesn’t change the steering control at all
@tonyrogers1683
@tonyrogers1683 9 ай бұрын
The original radio has the MS6 knob. When it's full clockwise, that's as low as the AVC can get. Let's it go in to a lean fast, less resistance. Full counter clockwise, AVC is fully on, won't let it fall or lean so easily. And if the antenna can be a little more erect, and doesn't have to search for demands from the Tx. Can't hurt. Loose the dx5, good Tx, but not for the Rx in the MX...
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
The original radio has limited range as Losi explained in there pod cast all there testing was done with the DX5 series radio as they talked about this no matter the knob fully up or fully down the steering avc keeps moving no matter what doesn’t seem to change anything as I’ve been showing this since new I’ve been told the steering is supposed to change but haven’t noticed any difference in steering just the lean goes quickly or less 🤷🏻‍♂️ several people have pointed out what your saying to me and I keep showing the steering hasn’t change 🤷🏻‍♂️
@tonyrogers1683
@tonyrogers1683 9 ай бұрын
@earlmoorhead5555 it's for some reason, maybe just mine. And I collect data on every run. But mine... when it's in wheely mode, the knob will let me be in control the wheelies. Slow wheelies, more throttle, lets me carry the the front how high, and how low. Or turn the knob back, just pull the trigger, and ita wheely till it runs out of steam. In road mode, it will let it take full throttle, and it blips the motor when the bike hits the degree that it no's to blip it to keep the wheel down and full power. On my radio, I can adjust so it blips hit faster or slower. I thought they all were like that.
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
@@tonyrogers1683 yes airplane tech ( called smart ) by horizon it unlocks and giver you more control forward backwards side to side as losi talked about in the pod cast when they finally figured out after a year of trials thinking it’s a one wheel rc car they where able to crack the turning capability it’s a very cool podcast they did with horizon on the promoto Mx listening to there struggles and how figuring out everything but turning was holding them up for a year and a half and hitting that turn for the first time knowing they got it was cool 😎
@ooze1016
@ooze1016 9 ай бұрын
My dx5 pro works better with the bike than the original controller some people look for more settings .It has all the settings the original has . With that said I know about the dx5 pro I know nothing about the other two dx5's and before updating the site says what controls what and the dx5's also have more range
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
@tonyrogers1683 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qs6IrdeVx6jHZXU.htmlsi=TWpbv7hF9Ur7ZaEU cool podcast on the promoto development
@michaelvoorhees5978
@michaelvoorhees5978 8 ай бұрын
You need a bicycle lol
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 8 ай бұрын
I have about 9 myself plus my kids bikes 😱🧐
@clean1566
@clean1566 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your support 🙏💯👍
@corti73
@corti73 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@earlmoorhead5555
@earlmoorhead5555 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate your support 💯🙏
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