Lost Indian

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banjowim

banjowim

12 жыл бұрын

This Ed Haley version of Lost Indian played by these fine young musicians sounds fabulous with the sound of the twin fiddles.
Recorded on the Clifftop Tuesday, 2011

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@harvestrootsferments4503
@harvestrootsferments4503 7 жыл бұрын
listened to this .... a hundred times
@whipsnade13
@whipsnade13 11 жыл бұрын
Just when you think the whole world has been lost and American Idolized, something like this comes along. Thanks for sharing.
@horsepoetry
@horsepoetry 11 жыл бұрын
I am not arguing at all the legitimacy of the bluegrass and Texas version of Lost Indian. I am merely sticking up for these musicians who don't seem unschooled to us in old time music. The home recordings of Haley made on wax discs are a treasure trove of tunes that might have otherwise been lost. It speaks to these musician's schooling that they stay so true to the Haley recording. John Hartford helped make these recordings available. It would be great if more bluegrassers discovered them.
@dandrechesterfield5411
@dandrechesterfield5411 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I love how the fiddles vary just enough to add some dirty swing to the song.
@redbranson9224
@redbranson9224 7 жыл бұрын
This is not good music:It is GREAT music.
@otryma
@otryma 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite YT video of this tune by far. Very much in the groove here.
@philanderton22
@philanderton22 8 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you, Great job, Well done, greetings from Holland
@miketillotson5059
@miketillotson5059 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not cutting that short - good to hear that tune given a ride.
@willharris1891
@willharris1891 7 жыл бұрын
Stumbled on this with KZfaq just playing on its own, I thought y'all were big time Nashville stars! Awesome awesome work, all y'all!
@Hardulf
@Hardulf 10 жыл бұрын
WOW! A truly amazing version of LI. Hoping I can play fiddle that well someday. :-)
@pare2071
@pare2071 4 жыл бұрын
great job, 2nd time I have ever seen a left hand fiddler.
@twilson6784
@twilson6784 7 жыл бұрын
Great energy. This one goes on my "practice" list. Also have to research Ed Haley. I'll have been playing 3 years come June...love it.
@ZachVance108
@ZachVance108 6 жыл бұрын
Stringchoir Look into the blogs of Brandon Ray Kirk “In search of Ed Haley” great reading ! Ed is a cousin of mine..
@Tracy3006
@Tracy3006 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome guys and gal! I really like this version. It sounds Irish as opposed to the version I'm used to. I recognize the melody even if some other goofballs don't. Great sound!
@frailingbanjo
@frailingbanjo 11 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of a fretless banjo!
@Fonzymucha
@Fonzymucha 11 жыл бұрын
It's Ed Haley's Lost Indian.
@unclegreenthumbs6869
@unclegreenthumbs6869 11 жыл бұрын
That was well worth the listen... Don't think I have ever heard that version of Lost Indian though. Keep up the good pickin there ya'll.... Hey lefty;, Two bits might getcha a shave and a bit of rosin for yer bow!! Thats some good fiddlin there. Really enjoyed it. .. Thanks...
@richardmeyers5220
@richardmeyers5220 11 жыл бұрын
Hypnotic stuff .. I love it.
@diggity53
@diggity53 12 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome!
@brodieland
@brodieland 9 жыл бұрын
The more common version of this tune that bluegrassers know was adapted/composed by Tommy Magness and then further reworked by Tommy Jackson. Haley's version, played great here, predates those by a long shot and has antecedents way back into the 18th C.
@ZachVance108
@ZachVance108 6 жыл бұрын
brodieland What dates it back to 18th c out of curiosity?
@kingofpentacles3213
@kingofpentacles3213 3 жыл бұрын
The song.
@louisacrancran
@louisacrancran 7 жыл бұрын
attempting to learn this fantastic tune....third part is hard!
@horsepoetry
@horsepoetry 11 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Ed Haley, one of the recognized vintage masters of old time fiddling. In old time music circles, failure to recognize the more obscure "versions" of common bluegrass titles also gets one labeled as "unlearned and unschooled." Too many tunes, not enough titles. Where I'm from, Haley's neck of the woods in east TN, more old time fiddlers would recognize this for Lost Indian than other versions, pretty much note for note from the original field recording=conventional + commonly known.
@ZachVance108
@ZachVance108 6 жыл бұрын
horsepoetry Ed Is a cousin of mine he was from Eastern Kentucky/West Virginia both sides in the border country..Was born in Logan County WV and his one longtime residency was in Ashland Ky but they moved around a great deal him and Ella and the kids..
@Wh1teNo1se
@Wh1teNo1se 5 жыл бұрын
Ed was born in the area of Harts Creek in Logan County, West Virginia. He did travel a bit, but mainly around Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Southwestern Virginia. He married around the age of 33 and raised a family in Catlettsburg, KY. His later years were spent in Ashland, KY. Just wanted to clear that up so folks don't think he was from Tennessee. Plenty of good fiddlers down that way, but not Ed Haley.
@Banjer
@Banjer 11 жыл бұрын
Bravi!! Wonderful!!
@kingofpentacles3213
@kingofpentacles3213 3 жыл бұрын
Aliens land on Earth and ask “What is American fiddle music?” I play them this. They start dancing, and now know what American fiddle music is. Epic version.
@JimDory
@JimDory 11 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to meet the man on the moon but figured he didn't exist. Now I know he does.. perhaps one day we'll cross paths? I would be enchanted.
@Dorkmeister9988
@Dorkmeister9988 2 жыл бұрын
It happened to me
@horsepoetry
@horsepoetry 11 жыл бұрын
I get your point, all great fiddlers. However, Ed Haley, born in 1885, predates them by generations. He supposedly learned a vast repertoire (including jigs) as a child before the days of radio and commercial recordings so its likely his version is quite old and unadulterated. Musicologists tell us there is a large family of old Lost Indian tunes in AEAC# tuning like Haley's version. The Kenny Baker or Texas-style version of Lost Indian is often called Cherokee Shuffle in old time music circles!
@ZachVance108
@ZachVance108 6 жыл бұрын
horsepoetry Benny Thomasson from Texas played one close to Ed
@robgillan2245
@robgillan2245 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely great playing . ....but more in the STYLE of Bruce Molesky and Tommy Jarrel (two of my heros) Check out Ed Haley's style . That's what made him such a great fiddler . Not his tunes but his 'style'
@snotpu
@snotpu 4 жыл бұрын
Based on some of the earlier comments, I am guessing that some of those were based on some other (probably bluegrass) version of "Lost Indian". I just listened to the Ed Haley version (cited in the comments as the version this group is playing) and this version is spot on to Ed Haley's version. The Ed Haley version may not have been available to listen to when this one here was posted, as the Ed Haley version ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ab15jMSoyrWZYKM.html ) shows a date of 2016.
@xDarbyQueenx
@xDarbyQueenx 7 жыл бұрын
thumbs up from Hazard
@scotteaton4583
@scotteaton4583 11 жыл бұрын
I agree, doesn't sound like any version of Lost Indian I've ever heard.
@JanetBeth13
@JanetBeth13 8 жыл бұрын
This is the best I've heard yet!
@larryjent6925
@larryjent6925 6 жыл бұрын
Janet Burton 7
@donbauer-jx6ru
@donbauer-jx6ru 5 ай бұрын
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN JUDY HYMAN & GUS TRITSCH PLAY IT!!!!!
@TheFiddledog
@TheFiddledog 12 жыл бұрын
This is a very nice version of Lost Indian. I can certainly hear the Lost Indian melody here.I don't think you know the melody to this tune.By the way, I do play a version of Lost Indian that has a totally different melody....same name different tune. That is the nature of fiddle tunes.Take care.
@susanhawksley8473
@susanhawksley8473 10 жыл бұрын
Wonderful tune. Looks like Isaac Akers with the red hair. Can someone tell those of us that don't know who the other musicians are?
@amyhunsicker5676
@amyhunsicker5676 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, Isaac Akers, his father Roger Akers, Aaron Olwell, and Amy Hunsicker
@scootertot
@scootertot 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Zorn on guitar
@snotpu
@snotpu 4 жыл бұрын
@@scootertot No, it is Roger Akers.
@WildwoodvalleyBoy
@WildwoodvalleyBoy 11 жыл бұрын
..."tell that to":-Kenny Baker, Chubby Wise, Byron Berline, Paul Warren, Buck Ryan, Mac McGaha, Sen. Robert Byrd, Scott Stoneman, Curly Fox, Stuart Duncan, and I'm sure I cold exhaust all my remaining characters,..my point is, -that these listed above,- and a whole host of others, could and would, attest to my claim!
@WildwoodvalleyBoy
@WildwoodvalleyBoy 11 жыл бұрын
...;the third sentence above seems to contradict the first two??,...I might be able to close my eyes and hear a brass band playing THE STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER!!!!!
@donbauer-jx6ru
@donbauer-jx6ru 5 ай бұрын
TOO FAST! GO TO JUDY HYMAN & GUS TRITSCH LOST INDIAN IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT THE WAY IT SHOULD SOUND.
@scotteaton4583
@scotteaton4583 11 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like Lost Girl to me.
@dandduce
@dandduce 12 жыл бұрын
Sounds somewhat unique, however I can't hear the Lost Indian melody at all. The song has been so modified that it should be renamed. I do like Ed Haley's version, but he needs to rename also. I've heard many versions of Lost Indian, but I could at least hear the melody in them. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a cool tune and these guys performance of it is good.
@WildwoodvalleyBoy
@WildwoodvalleyBoy 11 жыл бұрын
If thats LOST INDIAN, then I'm the 'man in the moon'! Sounds like NO melody I ever heard! I'd suggest somebody put on a record or tape of the real thing and then put on their listening ears!
@ZachVance108
@ZachVance108 6 жыл бұрын
wildwood valleyboy Yeah cause a “wildwood valleyboy” would know his ass from a hole in the ground 😂
@w.r.sanders6794
@w.r.sanders6794 7 жыл бұрын
Yankee children trying to play a tune and muddying it up all to hell bless their hearts
@louisbluescat
@louisbluescat 7 жыл бұрын
lets hear you fiddle then.
@ZachVance108
@ZachVance108 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not Ed Haley that’s for sure...
@scotty2tone
@scotty2tone 3 жыл бұрын
Shows how much you know lol. I'm sure you're fun at jams
@WildwoodvalleyBoy
@WildwoodvalleyBoy 11 жыл бұрын
My listening ears are ALWAYS on!,...that is why I 'pick up' on things that are awry! The bad thing about playing a commonly known tune in an unconventional manner, -is that it makes the performer(s) look unlearned and unschooled! One could play YANKEE DOODLE to the tune of JOHN HENRY,...-but would it be wise?
@danvanhoose6783
@danvanhoose6783 4 жыл бұрын
Sure isn't lost Indian.listen to chubby wise and hear the true song.yours is just noise!
@scotty2tone
@scotty2tone 3 жыл бұрын
This may come as a surprise, but tunes go by different names in different parts of the country. What you call Lost Indian also is called Cherokee Shuffle in certain parts. They're not playing the tune wrong, they're playing a different tune entirely Really it comes down to you probably only listening to only bluegrass instead of more traditional old time fiddling and expecting it to sound as stiff and rigid as bluegrass. It's cool though, I'm used to pretentious bluegrass fans acting like bluegrass is the only acceptable form of expression with banjos and fiddles.
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