LOTR Barad-dûr & NASA Artemis SLS, and why the LEGO Icons theme should be discontinued

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You will see two sets in details in this video, the 10333 The Lord of the Rings: Barad-dûr, and the 10341 NASA Artemis Space Launch System. I will also talk about why the Icons theme is a mess and should be discontinued.
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0:00 - Artemis SLS
4:44 - LOTR Barad-Dur
8:08 - the Icons problem
#lego #racingbrick #review

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@RacingBrick Ай бұрын

Click here for the local prices and availability: LOTR Barad-dur - racingbrick.com/product/10333-2/ Artemis SLS - racingbrick.com/product/10341-2/

@TBNRWILSON11 Ай бұрын

Very creative title

@RJ1. Ай бұрын

hello

@zackarychamberland3379 Ай бұрын

Can you please do the review on the Lego Aston Martin f1 already

@dominicf8039 29 күн бұрын

What's up with the chapters on the video???

@RacingBrick 29 күн бұрын

@@dominicf8039what's up with them?

@LilithTheAbyssalGoddess Ай бұрын

I mean... if I wasn't broke as a joke I'd absolutely want to buy both sets

@shroomzzz Ай бұрын

Who, other than a Lego Ambassador has the money and/or space for such things? I'm single, make a ton of money and live in a giant house alone and my wallet is safely in my pocket unless they start making Technic sets that don't suck.

@gekkegengis Ай бұрын

@@shroomzzzIf i had room and the rocket on the sls would be better i would buy it right now. sadly that's not the case...

@djrjdhthiwhdoe4365 Ай бұрын

@@shroomzzz me

@xuncao9218 Ай бұрын

WOW any chance lego made you broke at the first place dude

@WatchSupercars Ай бұрын

Thanks Biden

@elcrackengaitos_bs4804 Ай бұрын

The thumbnail is wild with the concorde at the left aiming at the Barad-Dur 💀💀💀

@peterpolus5272 Ай бұрын

I did not think of that😂😂

@Iaminpain-le3wo 29 күн бұрын

a second fellbeast has hit the tower of orthanc!

@xanderkarellas6741 24 күн бұрын

No wonder it’s the Two Towers 💀

@jagerzaku9160 24 күн бұрын

Bro 🔥🔥🔥

@johng.pitsakis5626 Ай бұрын

Wow! Don't discontinue the theme before we get a Concorde-scale Boeing 747!

@Sapphire_Jack Ай бұрын

Boeing 747 that will break as soon as you pick it up, just like most current Boeings

@jasonm9336 Ай бұрын

@@Sapphire_Jack Hahahahaha

@t65bx25 Ай бұрын

@@Sapphire_JackNah don’t diss the Queen she’s from before Boeing got corrupted by MDD

@hardtanker7522 Ай бұрын

Dude same man

@crazyrocketman Ай бұрын

For a second, I thought this was a joke about the title

@calebwanzek4368 Ай бұрын

Never really had a problem with a lego set being too easy or too difficult they’re all the same to me. Lego instructions are pretty straightforward. If your a grown person and can’t follow Lego instructions then idk what to tell you

@tom69pl Ай бұрын

lol true

@Sebastian-tm6ud Ай бұрын

yea besides the odd "what?" that lasts 5 seconds, its pretty simple. xD

@calebwanzek4368 Ай бұрын

@@Sebastian-tm6ud exactly, I’ve messed up a few times before but it’s usually pretty easy to fix it

@Klaevin Ай бұрын

I would usually disagree with people looking down on other for not being into the same stuff as them, but I have to admit that lego is really good at dumbing down their instructions.

@zeberto1986 Ай бұрын

Maybe the botanicals and creatures should be split into a 'nature' theme, the cars, boats and planes based off of real world vehicles could just be 'iconic vehicles', stuff from films could be under 'iconic movies'. This would leave the main icons theme for more general stuff like the typewriter, radio and the video game related stuff.

@theblue_hatter4829 Ай бұрын

And the actual icons sets that are the only sets that should be icons sets like the galaxy explorer and lion knights castle should be in a theme called “blast from the past”

@ErikLeppen Ай бұрын

Actually, the "real life objects" such as the typewriter or the radio could be a subtheme by itself.

@peterpop-off Ай бұрын

Great idea 👍

@darealsherlock8026 Ай бұрын

Don't you think just replacing age ratings with a difficulty system WITHOUT removing the icons theme would appease both parties? Lego gets to make an "iconic" line, we get a good measure of the difficulty of the set win-win (?)

@misersmisplays8816 Ай бұрын

Yes but offering solutions in a video reduces the amount of interaction a video gets. Can't garner discussion and engagement that way, can we? ;-)

@JPOG7TV Ай бұрын

I read it as the Twin Towers and thought Lego made a set of that and that’s why you wanted it to be discontinued

@user-zq4bn2hu5y Ай бұрын

Lmao!

@naturalborndylla Ай бұрын

9/11 has happened in Lego City

@pseudoty Ай бұрын

There was a Twin Towers set scheduled to be released that got cancelled in 2001.

@deanisplemoni Ай бұрын

"and the alternate build, that uses far less pieces"

@mr_coles592 Ай бұрын

Makes it worse that theres a plane in the thumbnail if most people read it as lego twin towers

@user-pw3lo8rp3n Ай бұрын

I think that "icons" is more about pricing rather than complexity

@lordly123 Ай бұрын

They also absolutely need to bring back $100-200 sets for ‘big’ themes. It seems like we only get sets like those for botanicals or modulars or whatever. Like, a $200 Barad-Dur that just included Sauron or something would be such a hit of a set, and so many more people would buy it.

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

100% agree. In the mid-late 2010s, I was someone who would buy multiple £100-300 sets every year because they made lots of good stuff in that price range. Now it's like they've been bumping them all up in price so like you said, unless you're into the regular subthemes like botanicals, art, modulars, vehicles, etc, there's very little for you in that price range. I used to get stuff like the ferris wheel, the carousel, Big Ben, Tower Bridge, the Simpsons sets, etc. Nowadays, if you want a famous landmark set, it's £400-600. If you want a theme park ride, it's £350. Standalone IP sets like the Helicarrier or Ghostbusters Firehouse for under £300 aren't really a thing anymore. You can get stuff like Avengers tower and Rivendell for over £400. Same with Ideas. They used to release sets in the under £50 range like BTTF and Ghostbusters. Those were what got me back into Lego as an adult. Now they just want to go bigger and bigger with Ideas sets.

@SwimminginBricks-ku6gj Ай бұрын

Does the Ornithopter and Notre Dame not exist in your universe? 😅

@Gzilla313 Ай бұрын

Skipped both of these sets and got Notre Dame instead. Lego should bring the Creator Expert line back. Icons for general adults and Creator Expert for experienced builders.

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

Yesss!!! Creator Expert was much better than Icons. Plus you didn't have these dull black boxes with no effort put into them that were just an excuse for Lego to bump up the price because now they're MATURE!!!!

@aidanfriedfeld8889 Ай бұрын

My main thing with the icons theme is that it seems to continue the trend of more and more prohibitively large and expensive sets filling the shelves at stores. I cannot remember a time pre icon theme where I could walk into a local target and half the shelf would be sets over 150$. My local stores never get the big UCS sets or modular buildings or 1:8 technic cars. Now they have captain americas shield, the icon cars, the giant space shuttle, the ecto 1, Optimus prime. Like it’s cool to see but also it’s weird walking into a generic retail store and seeing half the LEGO aisle be like borderline adult only due to price and scale.

@pedro380085 Ай бұрын

I quite like the Icons theme. I understand there are too many different sets under the same theme, but the proposed solution on the video "Split up it in smaller themes" I don't think is a better solution. We will end up with 20, 30 different themes which will have only one product on the LEGO website or stores? This will be a marketing nightmare.

@klaus.sfc01official30 Ай бұрын

I swear lego icons at this point is for the rich people that have too much money to spend. Some of the prices are rediculous and rival buying thing like idk the mercedes arocs for new on amazon.

@3dov4nd3r2 Ай бұрын

Yeah most of them are really expensive, but they are home decor. I have the Concorde in my room and it stands on a piece of furniture dedicated to it. It strikes you as soon as you open the bedroom door, so I feel like the 200€ is warranted, because of size, the super enjoyable and very interesting building experience and just the beauty and presence of it. I guess they have niche audiences, but your point stands

@coraldiamond1922 Ай бұрын

@@3dov4nd3r2yea not every set has to appeal to everyone and for example that new rocket set won't appeal to everyone even before you tell people the price. I don't ever see myself getting any of the sets over £500 purely because it has to be something truly special. I'd like to own the UCS Falcon one day just can't justify it currently.

@adamb2619 Ай бұрын

Then don't buy it???

@seanrea550 Ай бұрын

Icons to me is equivalent to starwars ucs. They are displayed sets not play sets. The bigger issue i have with lotr at the moment is that it is only icons and brick heads, no architecture, no play sets, no wall art. In short no options.

@MessyRook09 Ай бұрын

@@coraldiamond1922This. I'd love to have the UCS Falcon, Venator, Star Destroyer, the Concorde, the LOTR sets and so much more. But they're all so expensive it's not even funny.

@trev3971 Ай бұрын

They'll never put a difficulty rating on the box, for fear of scaring away possible customers.

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

They want to be looked at similar to model kits and appeal to adult collectors in the same way. This is what those companies do to show who should buy them.

@SirensOfWisconsin1679 Ай бұрын

The two towers and a plane sitting next to it, oh na💀

@liamaston6545 Ай бұрын

The open back, the height, imposingness, symmetry, and overall 'Ooh' factor makes me think Barad Dur should be classed with the Disney Castles!😂 Awesome video. Just the one I needed at the end of a long week! Thanks Balazs from NZ!👍

@undead.rising Ай бұрын

That's actually a really good comparison!

@wile.e.coyote7666 Ай бұрын

Very true. An open back, doll house style, but it is aimed at adults and labeled 18+...I don't understand that logic. 920€ to get a true closed set huuhh ?! And the big lightened vulva on top of it ?! Not for me.

@patrickh6813 Ай бұрын

Icons = Miscellaneous

@CrazyChemistPL Ай бұрын

I literally never had any issues with building a LEGO set, and my experience since returning to the hobby about 3 years ago ranges from the Airbus Rescue Helicopter (hardest) through the Ornithopter, Concorde, Saturn V, Icons cars (Mustang, Porsche, Camaro) and Speed Champions cars to something like the latest version of Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter (easiest). There's something to be said and applauded about LEGO's ingenious instructions, just pay attention and you'll manage. Out of all these sets I've built, if I was to pick my favourite line, it would definitely be Icons, just because of how many one-of and otherwise completely unlikely sets it has given us. I'm quite certain if Icons was discontinued, we would simply lose this amazing variety. But perhaps there's a case to be made for alternative skill rating for different Icons sets, like perhaps 1-5 levels of difficulty?

@SilverDreamweaver Ай бұрын

Yeah. I can't understand how people find any Lego build challenging. I really try to understand, but I just can't. Both from the simple instructions to the fact you're just putting shapes together. I don't see how Lego can be challenging to anyone, except for very, very, very young children.

@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын

To me Icons doesn't even count as a theme because of everything in it. So what's your favorite other than Icons?

@CrazyChemistPL Ай бұрын

@@TheFirstCurse1 That's why I didn't say "theme" but "line". I don't have a favourite theme.

@engilaru Ай бұрын

On the subject of ratings and product lines... I think the "theme" is an outdated term and should be repurposed. Lego "Themes" are actually "product lines" and often not thematically connected at all. Icons being a prime example of that, but it's also true for themes like Ideas, Art, Education, BrickHeadz, Classic, Creator 3in1, Creator Expert, etc. A Lego set should be allowed to exist within a product line and a theme at the same time, thus easing the search process. For example, the 21325 Medieval Blacksmith from 2021 should both exist in the "Castle" theme and the "Ideas" product line. This is mostly an issue on sites like Bricklink and Brickset, but those sites try to stick to Legos standards, so Lego probably have to change first.

@StrangerBeast87 Ай бұрын

I recon Lego should do a difficulty rating along the lines of 1-10. 1 being easy and 10 being difficult. I don’t know if they should do that as well as the age rating or instead of it.

@igglepiggle1215 Ай бұрын

Just because a set is bigger it doesn't make it more difficult

@tomm2213 Ай бұрын

In addition to they speak to different things

@StrangerBeast87 Ай бұрын

@@igglepiggle1215 I completely agree. I personally don’t find Lego builds difficult. I usually find its builder error that makes the mistake

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

@@igglepiggle1215 They never said that though.

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

I agree with this. Lego wants these sets to be looked at as things for adult collectors similar to model kits. Then bring in a difficulty rating. Don't just lump them all together as 18+ whether it's a £100 Winnie the Pooh set or a £400 Lord of the Rings set.

@iminyourshadows Ай бұрын

I feel like if they bring back the “expert” line then it will solve the problem relatively easily. You could even split up icons to be just “Icons” and “Icons Expert” similar to how there were “Creator Expert”

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

Expert was just much better IMO

@douglaskelly3340 Ай бұрын

I like the Icon designation because it focuses on kits that are somewhat unique and can't be placed anywhere else. But we could have an age rating system within this theme.

@marachdrifter Ай бұрын

« The budget was change during the development of the set » Hey, just like the actual rocket !

@skMepo Ай бұрын

the age rating is bit weird like i was building 16+ sets already at age 8-10 whenever i got my hands on them during christmas or birthday never needed help with those, and 10 years later, i feel like these sets have gotten easier and easier (most likely due me aging but idk)

@Blobfisheli24 Ай бұрын

Just what I needed. A racingbrick vid

@DJ-1Q84 Ай бұрын

I rarely build lego sets and I picked up and built the ornithopter recently. I thought it was really easy to put together but honestly any adult with working thumbs should be able to put together a retail lego set.

@alyssum28 Ай бұрын

I am new to Lego and never had any issues either. Meanwhile I see many Lego veteran youtubers misalign bricks because they didn't follow very clear instructions from Lego's manuals.

@t65bx25 Ай бұрын

Man I just miss Creator Expert

@peterpolus5272 Ай бұрын

I also think that Icons is weird, some of the sets are literally kids' creator and castle sets, others are actually Star Wars or LOTR but they are big so they're marketed for adults😆kind of weird. Idk maybe they think adults won't buy Lego unless it's marketed as 18+ because they're ashamed of buying toys or something? I for one am certainly not the case, for example I prefer star wars scenes made into play sets with creative functions than the adult-targeted dioramas which are stupidly overpriced, have little to no minifigures and are there just for display with no play fumctions🤷‍♂️ They talk about 'discovering the kid in yourself' but kind of limit it themselves if you know what I mean.

@Carboxylated Ай бұрын

I want Bar-A-Dur asap! But after I keep seeing the Artemis and how meh it is, I might reconsider that one. As for ICONS I like how random and crazy the theme is

@rkc62 Ай бұрын

You're thinking like a consumer/customer. What the LEGO group is doing with Icons is drawing in as many *new* customers as possible. TLG knows you, as an AFOL, will buy their sets no matter how they're branded, but every new customer (or more likely someone coming out of their dark ages) might be a potential long term repeat customer who will get the bug after their first Icons set. THAT'S the point of Icons branding.

@peterpop-off Ай бұрын

Interesting... It worked on me, thats for sure 😅

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

Honestly I feel like they're risking turning away new people coming out of their dark ages because of their greed. When I got back into Lego, it was sets like Lego Cuusoo/Ideas BTTF and Ghostbusters that interested me. Those were £35-45 back then and that was expensive for me for a "kids' hobby" that I only spent £15-20 on previously. If I was coming out of my dark ages now, I'd feel like there's very little to appeal to me in my price range. I'm okay spending £100-300 on sets now but I wouldn't have been if I was just getting back into Lego.

@yumahummus5033 Ай бұрын

video is titled "The Two Towers" is 11 minutes long ✈️

@LarySeeAircraft Ай бұрын

And has a plane on the thumbnail

@JMSerbelII-sw3ck Ай бұрын

💀

@verios44 Ай бұрын

I dont mind the icons theme being a "catch all" sort of theme. I personally have found zero official lego sets challenging to build, but thats just me.

@FlymanMS Ай бұрын

Now that’s optimising, two huge sets in one review!

@kentslocum 22 күн бұрын

Age ratings have never made sense for LEGO sets. I think they should adopt a complexity-rating system: -Option #1: Rate each set with zero to five bricks (zero being something like Duplo, and five bricks being something like the Eiffel Tower) -Option #2: Label each set with levels from "Beginner" to "Expert" -Option #3: Give each set a short description, from "Anyone can build" to "Complex and Challenging"

@bobbyc912 Ай бұрын

I agree. The Icons theme is muddled with so many different types of sets. Between the two, the Artemis has better value and appeal for me as a display set. The LOTR sets are expensive playsets for me. I’m not the target audience for these. Will be picking up the LOTR Brickheadz though

@JBBrickFanatic Ай бұрын

I love the idea of a difficulty rating system. Maybe from one to five bricks of how challenging the build is? Keep the icons theme, but just add that on the box. Brilliant!

@Mmoskauman Ай бұрын

Ah yes because a Concorde and 2 towers in the same thumbnail isn't a bad idea 😀😀

@RacingBrick Ай бұрын

You need to have a really vivid imagination to see anything into that...

@scrope Ай бұрын

I'd prefer if they had a rating system like a) Beginner b) Simple c) Intermediate d) Advanced. This should be able to cover everyone from a person who has never built a set to a dedicated builder of many years.

@Japixx Ай бұрын

Yes, this would be the best! Ppl are on different level of experience even in a same age group.

@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын

This is the best idea.

@martingothberg3593 Ай бұрын

I agree that they should create sub themes for Icons. I personally think they should be based on what the build is, for example: Icons Vehicles Icons Flowers Icons Modular Buildings And so on. Then they should intruduce a complexity rating for all Icons sets, clearly visible on the box as well on the web shop. The rating could be done as a scale of maybe 1-5 bricks, or 1-10 bricks. The more bricks, the higher the complexity of the build is

@Frazec_Atsjenkov Ай бұрын

The subject matter is what the sets in the Icons theme share, in so much that Icons consists of subjects that appeal to adults. They may be difficult to build, because they are intended for adults, but are not required to be difficult to build. They are required to appeal to an adult audience, which they do.

@mkprofessionalism Ай бұрын

Nice match in one video! I love your videos Balázs! 😊

@marknorton5951 24 күн бұрын

The biggest problem I have is not building the sets but knowing what to do with the things once built.

@fdavpach Ай бұрын

I will say that the tower and the scale was a real turn off for me, I would 100% take any day a SLS on the scale of the Saturn V instead of having a smaller SLS with a tower, I have almost all the space related sets but this one is really hard to like.

@TomBombadil123 15 күн бұрын

For $460, I would of thought Barad-Dur would actually have the right proportions to make it look like an actual tower.

@edhoja 14 күн бұрын

For me, having kids, the rating is not just about the complexity of the build, but rather the size and how manageable it is on smaller hands. That`s what I noticed.

@klausm5460 Ай бұрын

What annoys me the most is when themes or categorizations are introduced and then again dropped before they could be really established thoughout the range of products. The Icons moniker has at least brought some level of consistency. Nevertheless, IMHO there was no need to abandon the Creator Expert name which could be used easily for cars, modular buildings and iconic vessels such as the Titanic or Concorde. In addition to that LEGO could have introduced some category for movie icons and famous items such as the Pacman machine or the gaming consoles. Overlap between themes is unavoidable, but I see your point that lumping all into one category doesn´t help at all.

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

Creator Expert was much better than Icons and shouldn't have been replaced by it.

@aggelosaggelos5696 Ай бұрын

sir racing brick has reviewed the second tower,the baradur

@jasonwonkawich5275 Ай бұрын

LEGO turned away from being a nostalgic, whimsical childhood escape into an ever-increasing money-sucker. I got the giant Falcon and that Rivendel set, but I'm checking-out. Enough money spent on plastic that I need to dust.

@JimmyDuckworth Ай бұрын

Eh! I agree with your opinions. Icons is WAY too generic as a theme i think… Great vid by the way

@StephensCrazyHour Ай бұрын

I don't mind the icons theme. It's a good catch-all. I only wish we would get regular pirates/ Castle themes so that I could mix and match my purchases and share the themes with my kids better.

@MrBillclintin Ай бұрын

I like the icons series, it and ideas is the go to series for the most interesting sets. Titanic is on top of my lego wishlist.

@cbspock1701 Ай бұрын

I got SLS and can’t wait to start it. I wish they built a mobile launch platform and ET and SRBs for the Discovery orbiter. I would love the shuttle displayed on the stack.

@Beregorn88 Ай бұрын

Basically it's a catch-all label for sets that don't have a line yet, usually big, expensive, display pieces. It seems that they finally introduced the botanical line, but all the plants are also displayed in the Icons line.

@KingTiger2000 24 күн бұрын

Any LOTR set is a day 1 purchase for me. That tower is amazing on display

@2810Mad Ай бұрын

They unironically said, you can buy 3 lotr towers and combine them into one...lmao. How rich does lego think their customers are? I'd rather pay my rent than buy overpriced plastic for that amount of money. I either buy used or wait for stuff to go on sale and never directly from lego.

@SilverDreamweaver Ай бұрын

That was so tone-deaf. Almost insulting.

@2810Mad Ай бұрын

@@SilverDreamweaver not almost

@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын

@@SilverDreamweaver"This man hit my wife in public. Almost insulting."

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

Some whales would actually do this

@retrobrickreviews687 Ай бұрын

That was clearly meant as a joke, considering how ludicrously disproportionate it was.

@deadso Ай бұрын

The Dune Ornithopter got me back into LEGO since my childhood, it's not overly complex, but I really liked the mechanisms hidden in the body of the Ornithopter. I don't see your point as to why Ideas should be discontinued and you even contradict yourself on that (you call them great sets, and just want to add some filters; which is the opposite of discontinueing the entire thing).

@RacingBrick Ай бұрын

I guess you meant Icons, and not Ideas :) I don't see any contradiction, I think the theme has way too many very different sets squeezed in, the best would be to discontinue Icons and create a few, more specific themes. The other solution would be to introduce the label of the difficulty levels, but that would still leave us with way too many adult-focused sets in a single bucket.

@deadso Ай бұрын

@@RacingBrick I meant Icons of course ;) To me "discontinuing" means stop fabricating/selling/designing these sets all together. Although they are bundelled under Icons, stuff like the LotR's Barad-dur is also found under it's own catagory/filter (in this case LotR). So in some cases, they belong to more specific themes, introducing more themes would just add clutter imho, ie. making a Dune catagory just for the Ornithopter.

@RacingBrick Ай бұрын

@@deadso for me discontinuing a theme doesn't have much to do with the sets released under that label previously, I literally meant the theme itself. I didn't mean to create subthemes based on each and every topic, but rather a categorization that helps differentiating the sets for casual adult builders, and experienced adult builders. Sets like the Dune Ornithopter or the Radio could easily fit in the old "Creator Expert" theme, and things like Barad-Dur or Artemis could go in the "for adults" theme.

@jimbojetti5742 Ай бұрын

I have never personally run into this problem where a Lego set was hard to build, its always been relaxing and quite easy. To clarify i have built both the Lamborghini SIAN FKP 37 and the Ferrari DAYTONA SP3. I think that the "18+" title is used on some sets where it is not needed like in the Chevrolet camaro Z28, but then again its Lego so they probably want to sell their sets to the right audience, so maybe they use the "18+" as a scare to show that it requires some building experience to build it.

@peterpop-off Ай бұрын

My 2 cents. Lego could print the empty backgrounds different colours and graphics to represent a category while keeping them under one theme.

@silverwhiteknight Ай бұрын

Agree with you we should have a theme for difficult to build sets

@astralshore Ай бұрын

I’m of the opinion “never change a winning team”. I mean you’re not wrong, but it seems that Lego designers can ‘get away’ with rather a lot under the Icons umbrella. I’d be hesitant to break it up and introduce more rules (“this line has to be about X”.

@steve.palmer 11 күн бұрын

18+ sets could do with a Lego weed set. They got other flowers. Stoner theme, parents basement set or the clerk's shop with Jay and silent Bob mini figs? Icons bong, it has pneumatic functions.

@grandpabricks Ай бұрын

I don't mind the Icons theme as a theme, but it does seem to have a broad range of difficulty levels. Age appropriateness and difficulty level are different things. Why not have both on 18+ sets? That way new builders can find an entry point, and experienced builders can find a challenge.

@rogerhalt3991 Ай бұрын

Some icons aren’t actually icons but the ones that are kick ass. It’s just an updated adults only line?

@marcneef795 Ай бұрын

"The budget was changed during the design process." - Unfortunately, the price stayed the same.

@user-zy2nu7gk6i Ай бұрын

very nice video!

@torpidsheep5175 Ай бұрын

Personally, I'd like to go back to a time when Lego sets were capable of being held in one hand or two so you can enjoy and admire what you've made while ensuring playability. Sure, accuracy is great, but I always thought of Lego as a means to showcase one's ingenuity and creativity with limited parts. They should give the creators of speed champions and technic a shot at Icons since they seem to be more innovative with their part usage and size parameters so that Lego could ensure that Icons becomes more profitable to all Lego enthusiasts.

@originalbluemonkey Ай бұрын

LEGO's consistency in terms of naming and releases is as questionable as the use of red 3L axle instead of a black one.

@anonymousprime1738 Ай бұрын

The only issue I have with icons is the price tag on most of the sets

@buccellatumxcv4076 Ай бұрын

Ngl if this video was posted for months later would have been crazy and I know was not the only one who was thinking it

@Max-sl4wb 23 күн бұрын

I personally want more challenging builds.

@ianjones7486 Ай бұрын

I loved the Concorde and Shuttle builds but the Artemis just doesn't excite.

@jeremycarter3361 Ай бұрын

I have never come across a LEGO set I can't build. I'm with you my friend.

@LegorocketsAnimation 25 күн бұрын

If TLG had released the SLS by itself (and maybe the tower separately) but made it to-scale with the Saturn V, I feel like many more people would be interested in it. I already have 14 other launch vehicles that are 1:110, having one that is 1:160 is pretty much useless for me since I cannot display them together. Regarding the Icons/ 18+ labels, if they actually used the age as a complexity rating it could work, but a dedicated complexity scale would be a lot better and more intuitive.

@Stn_turtle Ай бұрын

Two towers 💀💀💀

@chadechevalric686 Ай бұрын

Im not a Lotr fan, but this is really well made. Lego really keeps improving trought the years. Amazing sets ( rivendel and barad dur), wish the fans many hours of fun 👍. I will wait for the next 1:8 racing car.

@sonnyhutchins3141 Ай бұрын

The icons are some of my favourites

@GamerErman2001 Ай бұрын

I think Icons is a great theme but I think the 18+ rating having nothing to deal with difficulty is really stupid. Thing is that age rating is a problem in other themes as well such as Technic, Ideas, Star Wars... almost everywhere it's used it feels inconsistent when compared to every other age rating.

@zxql_ Ай бұрын

Completely agree that 18+ rating on ALL icons sets makes no sense whatsoever. Holiday Main Street and Rivendell in the same category by all means, meanwhile difficulty / intricacy rating is on opposite ends of the spectrum. If both "Icons" and "18+" mean that these sets suit adults for one reason or the other (be it nostalgia, displayability, difficulty or something else entirely) they should add a separate complexity rating.

@pandabro2659 Ай бұрын

Great video, liked it. One question that is off topic, I have built the BMW m1000rr set and while its mostly great I noticed one thing. Gear one (the gear in which the engine runs fastest at constant wheel spin) is very stiff. I've built it twice, everything is correct so I am very confused as to why there us so much friction in that gear. Do you have any idea why this could be? I'm sure I'm not the only one. When assembling I even took extra care to minimise friction between gears by spacing them a little. No difference.

@verndexter8822 Ай бұрын

They should have a challenge rating separate from age rating

@aaronrichmond9699 Ай бұрын

I want the LOTR sets!! Now to go save the money up.

@jameeldaya9840 Ай бұрын

Now we just need sarumans tower.

@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын

Saruman's tower came out like a decade ago. It's a pretty cool set.

@clockwork3494 Ай бұрын

I think the biggest issue here is that the Icons theme is currently an "anything goes" kind of theme, which while likely better for Lego's end, can be a consumer nightmare on the other as there's no filtering for any subthemes. I think the best idea here would be (as you said) to keep all the sets under the Icons theme, but add subgenres to the theme either through age ratings or categorically or split the theme entirely.

@IamPlainLazy11 Ай бұрын

Since coming back to Lego, I've ended up primarily buying Icons sets; the Galaxy Explorer, Land Rover Defender and Optimus Prime. None of them have seemed difficult to build (the most interesting builds have ended up being the speed champions sets I've had). It does feel like it's a bit of a testing ground for Lego to make things that just don't fit or play with IPs without being too commited to a line. Does become confusing though when they gain traction and start adding such as botanicals being a theme within a theme now.

@YoungestGo1st Ай бұрын

The title alone is intriguing! 🤔

@I.like.boring.things Ай бұрын

Maybe they should have Icons Basic, Icons and Icons Expert/Extreme, or use something similar to Bandai's Gundam difficulty system. High Grade, Real Grade, Master Garde and Prefect Grade (There is also SD, Entry Gade, Fullmechanis, Re-Born 100 Master Grade Extreme, Master Garde SD and Metal Build).

@joevictor53 Ай бұрын

Lego clearly wants to appeal to adult collectors and something people are more okay with collecting as adults are model kits. They already do these difficulty ratings so I don't see why Lego is just lumping everything together as 18+

@coffeeinhandproductions3238 Ай бұрын

I feel the 18+ on the box for most but not all of these sets applies to the pricing as they're aimed primarily at adults rather than most kids despite the difficulty level. The only real positive I can see with Icons is it gives Lego a one off excuse to make stand alone sets rather than offer a whole range of sets or starting up an entire theme. Lord of the Rings only real exception so far has been the Brickhead packs. While both models are great, pretty much skipping on both as The Icons Lambo is going to be revealed pretty soon.

@christopherwilliams5808 Ай бұрын

I bought Barad- Dur yesterday. Haven't built it yet. But why do people KEEP saying LOTR is back? It's not. 2 of the actual sets are under ICONS line not LOTR theme. All we have is brickheads for cheaper sets. Until they come out and fully announce that the LOTR theme is back and actual produce more cheaper play sets the theme is not back imo. Also the line at the LEGO store was insane. It was at least 3 times longer than the Rivendel line last year.

@klaymoon1 Ай бұрын

I like Two Towers. But, that's a single tower. Do I need another one to pair it up?

@owenmahan2854 Ай бұрын

I don’t even keep boxes most of the time and I wish they would stop with the black boxes. It’s getting boring.

@Klaevin Ай бұрын

thank you for this review. I've been broke for a long time and I could only afford the most special sets. I've been eyeing the concorde since it got released and I will finally be able to afford it for my birthday at the end of the month. I was kind of bummed when the Artemis set came out, because it seemed like ANOTHER set aimed at my weakness, but after this review, I'm glad that I can skip it. I'm really into the space stuff, but have never been able to afford the good star wars sets. I absolutely LOVED Saturn V and the Space shuttle for the construction techniques and functions. But that after seeing the inside of that Artemis build... yeesh. I think I'll go back to looking at Technic.

@M1longer Ай бұрын

I'd say that Botanical Collection is aimed for adults too.

@RacingBrick Ай бұрын

Botanical Collection is just a label for Icons

@sunsetshimmer883 Ай бұрын

Let’s have a detailed overview of an upcoming Lego city set delivery truck 60440 Probably also to have it compared to an earlier version of 3221 to recognize the technological progression of layered building process recreation, compared the model itself to a real life prototype

@garbage2882 Ай бұрын

TBF both are iconic, but there should be a different theme for real life culture and 'fake' culture so films, games etc.

@lj8612 Ай бұрын

The thumbnail…a plane next to two towers…wherever I seen that before?

@RacingBrick Ай бұрын

And a radio, garbage bin, F1 car, Ornithopter...

@PedroSavioo Ай бұрын

I wouldnt end this theme, i would reserve it for remakes. The movies could be a theme itself. Lego Cinema (for the lord of the rings). Lego History (for the space stuff like nasa) Sub themes like those space stuff with aliens could be kept like its today... city or other theme like 3 in 1.

@chawley52 Ай бұрын

I hate thew new KZfaq layout! It makes it harder to get to and scan comments. That said, great video! I have always thought of Icons as "Eye Candy". When you walk into a Lego store Icons has its own section and I like the presentation of variety...it always feels like a journey of discovery. I don't think I am troubled much by the age rating. they can be deceiving at best (Ducati Panigale V4 gearbox!!).

@vinnibod2500 Ай бұрын

Why would the NASA Artemis SLS be part of the "Space" set? That doesn't make any sense. The NASA Artemis SLS is a REAL thing, and the space sets are... not.

@Dondo26Bricks Ай бұрын

Huge credit to you for build-reviewing both of these sets. Both are huge and would've taken a huge amount of your time to build, so huge respect for doing this double❤🫡✊