LOTR Extended Edition // 0 - The Death of Saruman

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4 жыл бұрын

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@lv3275
@lv3275 3 жыл бұрын
English and Turkish Subtitle available now. Open subtitles on settings. Here's a book version of what happened to Saruman: In Book Saruman didn't die here! after the ring was destroyed, Saruman left from Orthanc with Grima. Frodo, Gandalf and others meet Saruman and Grima on their way to Rivendell and Gandalf gave him a final chance to restore his honor but he declined it and continued going their own way. While Frodo and gang rested in Rivendell, Saruman arrived in Shire and with with the help of thieves and crooks (most of them his former troops from Isengard) began to destroying and turning Shire to a wasteland (Sams vision from the first movie) But Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin gathered hobbits together and defeated Saruman's forces in "Battle of Bywater" After his defeat, Frodo ordered Saruman let to be go but Saruman went and stabbed Frodo but couldnt kill him because Mithril shirt, Other hobbits were going to kill him but Frodo stopped them and told Saruman to leave, Saruman ordered Grima to follow him but Frodo offered him that he can stay and gain strength and then leave to other way and not listen Saruman anymore, for this Saruman laughed and told them that it was Grima who killed Lotho Sackville-Baggins, Grima mumbled that it was under orders and he finally snapped and cut his throat open, after doing that Grima tried to run but hobbits killed him by shooting him with arrows. And here is my comment why this scenes was deleted from the movie and it has been made with extra/extended scenes, because in 2003, probably it was too late to leave from cinema for the viewers, i mean, movie is already 3.5h, and if they were added this scenes too, it would be like 4-4.5h . and that meaning is they can show the movie less in 1 day. For example if its 3.5h they can stream at the cinema like 4-5 times and if it was be 4.5h, they could show like 2-3 times in 1 day. Im trying to tell thats because of commercial reasons. And also Netflix and other any platforms which is making open stream for everyone reachable, they would never have this kind of special scenes because they won't pay extra money for that. Also that mystery keeps alive the minds of the viewers, everytime they are wondering what happened, what i missed, what i have not seen yet. So people is watching more and more about the trilogy and starting to research about it. So if anyone is wondering about it, they will stop dreaming and they will try to find blu-ray version and buy it manually or buying the books of LOTR by J.R.R Tolkien, and read it. So they can sell books too. And another thing is for can make physical sells without the streams at the cinema, so you have to buy it with money for can see this scenes. Thats a very good trick to sell and earn more money. Like DVD etc. Its calling "Blu-Ray" . Thats just my opinion. It doesn't has to be true. Just wanted to share with you. I hope you enjoyed the video and also the comment at the upside, what happened in the real (book). Have Fun. Kind regards. also you can reach all deleted scenes playlist here kzfaq.info/sun/PLZeU4WLB81HSt3LCu_zwPV74-B92fr4ok , have fun 💛
@Johan.Dingler
@Johan.Dingler 3 жыл бұрын
RomanceTR thank u!!
@Mr-.Facts.
@Mr-.Facts. 3 жыл бұрын
Hi RomanceTR, i just want to try and ask you if i can use this footage for my own video with 5 facts related to films/series. I will of course leave credit in my description. Have a nice day ( :
@sullymast4672
@sullymast4672 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it was a good call not to include all that; it would have taken away that peaceful ambiance and ending we received. And frankly, as I told my dad who has repeatedly read and watched LoTR, I don’t think the ending would have flowed very smoothly if they included “Sharky.” Although, now that I think about it, I’m a little surprised no one has made a fan film of that part of the book to make up for it.
@Cobbido
@Cobbido 2 жыл бұрын
The English subtitles are filled with errors. "You are a lesser son of greater science", really bro?
@lv3275
@lv3275 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cobbido I couldnt understand that part, if you can help me for fix that, i’ll be so glad, thank you :)
@erindrawsabit804
@erindrawsabit804 4 жыл бұрын
Saruman: *is doing his speech* Everyone at the bottom of the very tall tower: What did he say???
@IndianTelephone
@IndianTelephone 4 жыл бұрын
#movielogic
@jordanverbeek5121
@jordanverbeek5121 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment reminded me of that scene from Shazam when the hero and villain are both flying above the city. The villain is monologuing and the hero can't hear him because of all the traffic noise and wind.
@ConnerPlays360
@ConnerPlays360 4 жыл бұрын
A great powerful person such as Sarumon would surely have a spell or ability to boost his voice surely.
@Nunshle_Uvmee
@Nunshle_Uvmee 4 жыл бұрын
Made me think of Kung Fu Panda 2 XD
@lv3275
@lv3275 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahha
@the4thtribe709
@the4thtribe709 4 жыл бұрын
Twice the pride double the fall.
@anakinskywalker9218
@anakinskywalker9218 3 жыл бұрын
Gandalf: my powers have doubled since we met last time Count
@the4thtribe709
@the4thtribe709 3 жыл бұрын
@Having Good Ones Sadly I think you're right
@lachlanneville7138
@lachlanneville7138 3 жыл бұрын
That killed me
@Liamnerfdude1
@Liamnerfdude1 3 жыл бұрын
@@anakinskywalker9218 doesnt evn make sense..
@Liamnerfdude1
@Liamnerfdude1 3 жыл бұрын
@@anakinskywalker9218 you act like Gandalf is pridefal..
@ITheIM7IOmegaI
@ITheIM7IOmegaI Жыл бұрын
For those wondering why legolas shot Grima... he needed to make up for the one point against gimli at helms deep.
@TomBrennan183
@TomBrennan183 10 ай бұрын
Why no replies
@matthewphelps7384
@matthewphelps7384 9 ай бұрын
haha such a legolas thing to do his friendship with gimli is perfect
@_shadownotes_
@_shadownotes_ 8 ай бұрын
​@@TomBrennan183nothing more to be said
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 5 ай бұрын
Moreso Grima just cost them any information they could've gotten out of Saruman
@MrEvrit
@MrEvrit 5 ай бұрын
Really?
@faceless_lurker
@faceless_lurker 2 жыл бұрын
"What is the house of Rohan but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor with the dogs!" What a great line.
@jeremiahanderson614
@jeremiahanderson614 Жыл бұрын
Strait roasted all of Rohan and it's history
@PajafromPrague
@PajafromPrague Ай бұрын
Saruman is like a testified killer who is speaking about how unimportant the victim was
@robingile4301
@robingile4301 24 күн бұрын
That is of course an original line of the writers, not Peter Jackson.
@wkatz0
@wkatz0 12 күн бұрын
Nobody talks shit better than Sarumon
@thomasplinguidy4588
@thomasplinguidy4588 11 күн бұрын
Yes, but King Theoden also noticed that he who delivered the line was immediately after stabbed from behind and impaled in front of his own tower. If I were Theoden, this result would have cheered me up, along with a mug of beer in my royal barn.
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s so cute how Legolas without a moments hesitation reaches for his bow to outright murder Saruman just because Gimli said so 😂😂😂
@just_cade
@just_cade 3 жыл бұрын
Gandalf: nO!
@karstenshields1694
@karstenshields1694 3 жыл бұрын
Well they were great friends
@lordofthered1257
@lordofthered1257 3 жыл бұрын
They were the best of friends.
@Jaryism
@Jaryism 3 жыл бұрын
Except he ultimately murders Wormtongue
@ultrabigfella
@ultrabigfella 2 жыл бұрын
He also without hesitation raised a bow at a character that threatened Aragorn despite being surrounded by enemy troops. Legolas looks out for the homies.
@NomadUrpagi
@NomadUrpagi 3 жыл бұрын
Gandalf: Saruman, your staff is broken Sauron: Elendil, your sword is broken. Uruk-hai: Theoden, your wall is broken. Aragorn: Eowyn, your heart is broken.
@joshua2587
@joshua2587 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@manupainkiller
@manupainkiller 2 жыл бұрын
It was funny until the Aragorn part. :(
@PanzerShrek94
@PanzerShrek94 2 жыл бұрын
The Witch King:"Eowyn your arm is broken"
@reueljccrisanto1735
@reueljccrisanto1735 2 жыл бұрын
Merry: I think I've broken something.
@PanzerShrek94
@PanzerShrek94 2 жыл бұрын
@@reueljccrisanto1735 Merry:"Farmer Maggot,your carrot is broken"
@DarkTider
@DarkTider Жыл бұрын
The most important scene in the movie, cutting it was pure madness. Every character is affected here and you see throughout the entire movie how hard Sarumans words hit them. Scenes like Gandalf "I've sent him to his death...." Ring a bit hollow without the context that it's Sarumans words eating away at him.
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it was considered far too grim for an opening scene. The tonal shift of the movie starting dour and ending bittersweet would probably kill movie critics.
@linkinparkrulz2275
@linkinparkrulz2275 10 ай бұрын
This scene is totally different in the book. This is after Sauron is defeated and the hobbits return to the Shire, Sarumon is revealed to be the chiefton of the entire shire who is compelling the Tooks which are basically bandits to loot the entire place. When Wormtongue snaps and slits Saurumon's throat it's hobbits who shoot him full of arrows, likely as a defense that he might hurt others.
@Sahuagin
@Sahuagin 9 ай бұрын
@@linkinparkrulz2275 what, not the Tooks... they were "ruffians" which are about 100-150 half-orc men from Isengard. Saruman had already been affecting the Shire remotely even before the 4 hobbits left, but after they left Lotho Sackville-Baggins became the "Chief" and started changing things. Lotho made things miserable but it got worse; halfway on their return trip the hobbits encountered Saruman and Wormtongue in the wilderness. From there, the hobbits went to Rivendell but Saruman and Wormtongue went to the Shire, where they killed Lotho and took over. They then made things much worse than they already had been, in the short amount of time they had before Frodo and friends returned. They ordered the trees to be felled, started fires, ransacked the homes, etc. Saruman said it would have been much worse if he had had more time or more half-orcs.
@ottokarl5427
@ottokarl5427 6 ай бұрын
@@linkinparkrulz2275 But since the entire Shire-ending wasn't part of the trilogy, it really has one of the main-villains just disappearing, without even making an appearance in the third movie. Usually stuff like that only happens if the actor died or left the project
@Raven-yv6di
@Raven-yv6di 3 ай бұрын
@@auraguard0212 bro the beginning of the third movie starts with a gruesome murder
@lovedove9734
@lovedove9734 2 жыл бұрын
Many forget the fact that this Tower is shaped exactly like Sarunan's staff. Not only is this powerful, but an incredible metaphor.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
But with no orb Like is on the end of the staff
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Жыл бұрын
Tower: penis Staff: penis Penis: >.>
@23Kite
@23Kite Жыл бұрын
@@plantainsame2049 The wizard is the orb
@marlonnartea7825
@marlonnartea7825 Жыл бұрын
That why hes able to talk loudly even on top because his staff is his mic and the tower is a huge sub woofer speaker
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 10 ай бұрын
The tower has nothing to do with saruman.... this is a poor conversion of the work
@rainmanslim4611
@rainmanslim4611 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Peter Jackson wanted saruman to scream. But Christopher Lee spent years shanking nazis, he knew what a man does when stabbed in the back. So instead he reacts like he does here, how someone actually reacts when stabbed in the back.
@WhiteGreatThanOrange
@WhiteGreatThanOrange 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh I just saw a video covering that exact topic before I came here
@HipsterEatinShark
@HipsterEatinShark 4 жыл бұрын
@Arcana Imperii How the fuck exactly would YOU know? Were you in the SAS during WW2 to dispute what he has actually said? That's Special Forces. I'm pretty sure anything the man had ever said he had seen or done, that was true and then some.
@emperorreign6154
@emperorreign6154 4 жыл бұрын
Arcana Imperii not only was he assigned to do exactly that during the war but he had also been stabbed in the back himself and knew exactly what it felt like. So kindly come back after you’ve done your research.
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 4 жыл бұрын
Arcana Imperii He IS a war hero. But I have to correct; it was HE who was stabbed. That’s how he knew.
@HipsterEatinShark
@HipsterEatinShark 4 жыл бұрын
@Arcana Imperii Dipshit, go look on wikipedia. Or any number of articles that talk about his service. Don't take my word for it. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF, you fucking dumbass. Wow, it's amazing how some people will dig in and double down on being dumbfucks.
@noonecares5340
@noonecares5340 3 жыл бұрын
Theoden: Grima, come down... Grima: How in the hell am I supposed to come down! I don't even know how I got up here!!!
@Makeitso2023
@Makeitso2023 3 жыл бұрын
Where the hell is the door/stairs to the roof lol,on another note we can agree that’s a tall tower yeah? Legolass arrow did well to get that high and hit the mark perfectly
@sachinvenugopal6926
@sachinvenugopal6926 3 жыл бұрын
@@Makeitso2023 He is an elf .. he would have plot armour in his defence 😅
@sethmorgan833
@sethmorgan833 3 жыл бұрын
And that is why Theoden was a great and righteous King. Even after all that Grima did by betraying his kinsman in Rohan, Theoden still was trying to forgive him and put him on the path of redemption which he was able to do when he reminded Grima of who he was and what the original oath he took from the time that he was a child and that is to be a son of Rohan, warrior of Rohan to to kill all enemies of Rohan if they be foreign or domestic.
@brothershamus1160
@brothershamus1160 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@vijaypadala2291
@vijaypadala2291 2 жыл бұрын
hahahah...good one!
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono Жыл бұрын
I find it quite interesting that Grima was undoubtedly mistreated time and time again and yet he never rebelled. But the moment Theoden decided to forgive him, and Saruman diminished Rohan and Theoden, then did Grima decide to strike. As far as I'm concerned, Grima's attack was not a kicked dog biting back at its master, it was his last glimmer of pride and strength as a man of Rohan facing an opponent. Sure, that last glimmer came in the form of a "treacherous" backstabbing as opposed to a more open confrontation, but Grima was always the underhanded kind of fellow
@mar2506
@mar2506 7 ай бұрын
Obviously he cant face a maia from front. Even backstabbings maia is impressive i think
@ZERO-hy3gt
@ZERO-hy3gt 5 ай бұрын
You have to keep in mind how powerful Saruman was. He could control people with his voice alone.
@MrHydra12
@MrHydra12 4 ай бұрын
@@ZERO-hy3gtright but thats before his staff was broken. Its pretty telling on screen through metaphor and saruman’s face that when his staff was shattered by the will of the Valar, carried out by Gandalf who is now “the white” and replaced Saruman as leader of the Istari, he also lost his powers. Very rarely do the valar directly intervene (last time they sunk beleriand and tore Sauron limb from limb) and this is one of the few scenes we see them directly do so, and they were the ones who made/empowered the Istari- so when their new emissary confronted Saruman, they revoked his power, breaking his staff. The first time in the films we see the Valar interfere (thats indisputable) is them resurrecting gandalf at the peak of Zirakzigol, at the top of the grand stair after fighting the balrog for 2 days at the peak. Basically god said “screw you” and took their original arch angels wings. After all, lotr is very biblically inspired.
@algebraizt
@algebraizt Ай бұрын
@@MrHydra12 Actually way more than the Valar. All the original wizards were sent by the Valar. But Gandalf was returned by Ilúvatar, as in God with the capital G. Its pretty cool.
@jacobbreitinger6789
@jacobbreitinger6789 28 күн бұрын
​@@MrHydra12 Glad you said it. I always agree heavily with Gandalf the White executing the will of the Valar(and really that of Eru Iluvatar). He doesn't fight, debate, or contest this moment. He states "Saruman your staff is broken" and thus it breaks, it is a will greater than that of the wizards, mortal, or immortal men. It is that of a power that sees above all and results in such a triumph. A scene done that gives it absolute justice.
@numeris7609
@numeris7609 19 күн бұрын
RIP Bernard Hill. You were Brilliant. And this scene always stuck with me due to your incredible performance. Be at Peace.
@proudsaiyanprince2651
@proudsaiyanprince2651 12 күн бұрын
His righteous fury when he yells “We shall have peace when the lives of the soldiers, whose bodies were hewn even as they lay dead against the gates of the Hornberg are AVENGED.” Also stuck in my head. What a King.
@chaplainpayne778
@chaplainpayne778 3 жыл бұрын
Sir Christopher Lee never fails to deliver. Such a good actor. May he rest in peace
@KennethV2000
@KennethV2000 3 жыл бұрын
So he had chosen death
@icecream_philosopher
@icecream_philosopher 3 жыл бұрын
And those 360 flips? Excellent execution.
@chronischermasturbationssc1027
@chronischermasturbationssc1027 3 жыл бұрын
He knew how it sounds like to stab a man in the back.
@cooldude2245
@cooldude2245 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for this role
@LaMilice.
@LaMilice. 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, you know that just because his character died in the movie doesn't mean that he's dead in real life, right?
@raphaels6207
@raphaels6207 4 жыл бұрын
Saruman: Gets stabbed in the back. Gandalf: 😬
@crowsoto9612
@crowsoto9612 4 жыл бұрын
that's gotta be pretty ironic
@ArnoldTohtFan
@ArnoldTohtFan 4 жыл бұрын
I think he was like "damn it, grima! we needed information from him!"
@Ish_Quiche
@Ish_Quiche 3 жыл бұрын
Natalie Soto lmaooooo
@carterm873
@carterm873 3 жыл бұрын
GREEMA YOU FOOL OF A WORMTONG
@IDHLEB
@IDHLEB 3 жыл бұрын
"Dayum!"
@Tommy-fq7wc
@Tommy-fq7wc 23 күн бұрын
RIP Bernard Hill
@FraldinhoBJJ
@FraldinhoBJJ 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy part about this is that Christopher lee served in wartime . Peter jackson wanted him to cry out when he was stabbed in the back . Lee replied “do you know what it sounds like when someone is stabbed in the back ? Because I do .” So crazy
@mrdavman13
@mrdavman13 Жыл бұрын
He not only served in war, but was the inspiration for James Bond.
@RD-zx6py
@RD-zx6py 8 ай бұрын
@@mrdavman13 that's why it was funny that he ended up playing Scaramanga.
@Sgr667
@Sgr667 7 ай бұрын
That's the reason I checked for this clip
@upland77
@upland77 7 ай бұрын
And then Christopher Lee stabbed Peter Jackson in the back, to show him
@RD-zx6py
@RD-zx6py 7 ай бұрын
@@upland77 or you could say Peter Jackson stabbed Christopher Lee in the back by deleting this scene from both the first and second movies despite promising that it'd be in one of them to conclude Saruman's story.
@joeyjerry1586
@joeyjerry1586 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why they cut this out of the theatrical version. It’s a bit unsatisfying leaving the theatre not knowing what happened to Saruman. Other than that, ROTK is pure perfect.
@Vman_95
@Vman_95 3 жыл бұрын
I've finally watched this trilogy. To me saruman become prisoner in his own tower guarded by them living trees. This is better than death tbh.
@FiscaalAftrekbaar
@FiscaalAftrekbaar 3 жыл бұрын
Well in the book this also does not happen. Not that following the book is always best for a movie ofcourse. As I understood (haven't read the books) he tries to take revenge on the Shire after the ring is destroyed. [spoiler alert] He does get killed though.
@kreigpinson4368
@kreigpinson4368 3 жыл бұрын
The number of those who are in aware of this makes me wish I could afford to buy everyone in the world the books So they can read them lol.
@Vman_95
@Vman_95 3 жыл бұрын
@@kreigpinson4368 so what happened to saruman in books in short? Died? Kept prisoner or what?
@joshadkin7021
@joshadkin7021 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vman_95 The character of saruman leaves for the shire, takes it over for a short time and the rest I'll leave for interested readers. I can't quite remember if it was an epilogue or one of the appendices, but it's in Return of the King book.
@thomaseubank1503
@thomaseubank1503 3 жыл бұрын
"That is not the sound of a man being stabbed in the back." -Christopher Lee
@Rabbit-uc5kg
@Rabbit-uc5kg 3 жыл бұрын
*proceeds to elaborate in detail*
@Mugruncher
@Mugruncher 3 жыл бұрын
Preceded by “no no, Peter dear,” which honestly makes it more terrifying IMO 😆
@ripvanwinkler1548
@ripvanwinkler1548 2 жыл бұрын
@Ewan Callister I mean some people scream, not all dramatic of course but they do sometimes let out an AH! especially if stabbed by surprise
@asturianix9820
@asturianix9820 2 жыл бұрын
So fucking badass that he kills nazis in the greatest war of recent History and then is immortalized in one of the greatest movie franchises of all of History.
@AtlanteanVrilChad
@AtlanteanVrilChad 2 жыл бұрын
@@asturianix9820 He fought the good guys instead of the commies
@myfriendisaac
@myfriendisaac Жыл бұрын
4:05 “FREE!??? He will never be free.” I love his outraged, villainous delivery of that particular line 😂😈
@mikegalbraith9999
@mikegalbraith9999 7 ай бұрын
Grima: No.
@angelofiron4366
@angelofiron4366 4 ай бұрын
Get down. Cur!
@gaynzz6841
@gaynzz6841 20 күн бұрын
@@angelofiron4366 I will not be held prisoner here. You withdraw your guard and I'll tell you where your doom will be decided.
@markdony1770
@markdony1770 Жыл бұрын
“Master Gandalf.. you have interfered with our affairs for the last time.”
@disneylover6408
@disneylover6408 3 жыл бұрын
“What do you want, Gandulf the grey? Let me guess, the key of Orthanc? Or perhaps the keys of Barad-dur itself? Along with the crowns of the seven kings and the rods of the five wizards?” Just tea, thank you
@johnbarrientosiii6586
@johnbarrientosiii6586 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂that was good
@Twh_shrfiehn
@Twh_shrfiehn 2 жыл бұрын
XD underrated
@spectralis6632
@spectralis6632 2 жыл бұрын
"those halfling leaves"
@lordhades8025
@lordhades8025 2 жыл бұрын
"A little red wine as requested. It's got a fruity boquet." -One of the Dwarves, 'The Hobbit'
@Jeezes718
@Jeezes718 Жыл бұрын
@@spectralis6632 Gandalf is all 'look buddy you got on my ass for smokin the good shit, but then I find out you had barrels of this stuff?' Saruman begins shifting his eyes nervously. 'Those are purely medicinal'
@ellemoe2919
@ellemoe2919 3 жыл бұрын
If Gandalf hadn’t stepped forward, All the main characters would have died from splash damage
@williamacheson3569
@williamacheson3569 3 жыл бұрын
Isenguard Dungeon : Mythic loot : Saruman's Staff 1073737 willpower. Seer stone 7383773 magic and Constitution
@BlockImmigrants
@BlockImmigrants 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@lightningstrike5024
@lightningstrike5024 2 жыл бұрын
bruh, i just realized this is true
@Sandeep-qt1nv
@Sandeep-qt1nv 2 жыл бұрын
splash damage lol
@Will.Flavell
@Will.Flavell 2 жыл бұрын
Gandalf warned everyone even in defeat Saruman is dangerous
@Epsa_
@Epsa_ 2 жыл бұрын
Gandalf: my powers have doubled since the last time we met. Saruman: good, twice the pride, double the fall.
@gregorycorey7288
@gregorycorey7288 6 ай бұрын
0:15 & 0:47 I love Aragorns reaction to what Theodens speech. He completely understands his anger and realizes it could've been him saying that
@vipr1142
@vipr1142 2 ай бұрын
As much as I love Christopher Lee, Saruman, the trilogy.. I just think he overacts so much in this scene. Cant help thinking its bad
@gaynzz6841
@gaynzz6841 20 күн бұрын
@@vipr1142 ???
@vipr1142
@vipr1142 19 күн бұрын
@@gaynzz6841 Just my opinion. I just felt he was overacting
@chriswilson3126
@chriswilson3126 3 жыл бұрын
"Grima, come down. Be free of him." This is for me the most sad moment of the trilogy. Others made their mistakes but made up for them. Theodin had forgiven Grima but he couldn't help him.
@adamboyle3331
@adamboyle3331 2 жыл бұрын
“You were once a man a Rohan!” Even after everything he wants the best for Grima through love of country. Theoden was a true king.
@oddfellowfloyd
@oddfellowfloyd 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamboyle3331 I don't get why Legolas shot him, after he killed Saruman in an act that seemed to ally with Theoden's words? :(
@justholorking
@justholorking 2 жыл бұрын
@@oddfellowfloyd probably cos gandalf still needed saruman for information
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
@@justholorking so he was betrayed because he betrayed Saruman
@justholorking
@justholorking 2 жыл бұрын
@@1mol831 eh u could put it that way
@tylerhill9510
@tylerhill9510 3 жыл бұрын
"Saruman..your staff is broken" so badass
@lucidlagomorph5809
@lucidlagomorph5809 3 жыл бұрын
he didn't even need to go into Latin or equivalent Middle Earth speak
@miqualetmn
@miqualetmn 2 жыл бұрын
Did you hear a boom? Listen carefuly
@aromusbaspet9032
@aromusbaspet9032 Жыл бұрын
"What are you talking about? I can distinctly see that my staff is in perfect working ord...oh, there it is."
@ivangelion030366
@ivangelion030366 23 күн бұрын
1. R.I.P. Bernard Hill. 😞 2. If I were Grima, I simply would have kicked Saruman Spartan-style.
@Viaterarising
@Viaterarising 10 күн бұрын
All our heroes are dying!
@nameeman1562
@nameeman1562 8 ай бұрын
Better dialogue in the book. "We will have peace," said Théoden at last thickly and with an effort. Several of the Riders cried out gladly. Théoden held up his hand. "Yes, we will have peace," he said now in a clear voice, "we will have peace, when you and all your works have perished--and the works of your dark master to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar, Saruman, and a corrupter a men's hearts. You hold out your hand it to me, and I perceive only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just--as it was not, for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine for your own profit as you desired--even so, what will you say of your torches in Westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Háma's body before the gates of the Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanic. So much for the house of Eorl. A lesser son of great sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewhither. But I fear your voice has lost its charm.”
@gaynzz6841
@gaynzz6841 20 күн бұрын
I think this scene is fine. But nerds can never have enough
@SeppukuAddict
@SeppukuAddict 4 жыл бұрын
0:52 Saruman tells us what his favourite MOBA is
@lv3275
@lv3275 4 жыл бұрын
Giantdad Lives hahahahahahah lmao
@Swalexbass
@Swalexbass 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooooooo
@Swalexbass
@Swalexbass 4 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, what is he actually saying? 😂
@SeppukuAddict
@SeppukuAddict 4 жыл бұрын
Swalexbass nah, he’s actually saying ‘dotard’ which is an archaic term meaning ‘foolish old man’. Still, always makes me giggle.
@Swalexbass
@Swalexbass 4 жыл бұрын
Giantdad Lives wow I never would’ve found out what he was saying! Thanks for that
@codafett
@codafett 3 жыл бұрын
I bet everyone was pissed that they had to cut this scene. It explains so much it's criminal that it's missing.
@pinkfreud62
@pinkfreud62 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, before I got the extended version, I didn't know what happened to Saurman. Last we saw was him just bewildered on the tower. Not to mention wtf happened to Grima.
@frankherthem1794
@frankherthem1794 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkfreud62 its written in the books
@giftheck
@giftheck Жыл бұрын
I hear Christopher Lee was particularly ticked off, since it meant his character had no resolution. @@mroildrinker1845 Deleted from the theatrical version. I'm assuming you have the extended edition of the film.
@martinn.6082
@martinn.6082 Жыл бұрын
@@pinkfreud62 I mean, Saruman being stuck on his own tower, forever guarded by the Ents that he almost wiped out being a prisoner just like Gandalf was on that same tower, is a kind of poetic justice.
@pinkfreud62
@pinkfreud62 Жыл бұрын
@@frankherthem1794 Yea, I know, but I only saw the films back then & since, I do have the books. Alot of movie goers probably didn't know much about LOTR until they saw the tril like me.
@user-mistereye
@user-mistereye 4 ай бұрын
Gandalf: Your treachery has already cost many lives. Thousands more are now at risk. Saruman: TENS OF THOUSANDS!!
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs 2 жыл бұрын
Christopher Lee and Bernard Hill always give me chills. Everyone is a marvelous actor, of course, but no matter how many times I rewatch these films, I find the performance of those two to stun me.
@Pootasaur
@Pootasaur 4 жыл бұрын
So brutal, the way he thuds on the spoke of that wheel might be the most gruesome death in the entire trilogy
@cartooncritique6625
@cartooncritique6625 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they say the deepest circle of Hell is reserved for traitors...I guess that's translated here with his demise.
@Pootasaur
@Pootasaur 4 жыл бұрын
That’s deep man
@crowsoto9612
@crowsoto9612 4 жыл бұрын
the crack of his spine when he thuds has gotta be the most fucked up part, just cause of how realistic that is, his corpse would definitely break most of its bones after that fall
@maxZ_b
@maxZ_b 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, though Boromir was pretty bad too
@leonardoleal5092
@leonardoleal5092 3 жыл бұрын
What about Gollum? He fell into a lava lake, although it is true he was anesthetized by having his precious in his hands ahahah
@robertcook4159
@robertcook4159 4 жыл бұрын
That moment when chucky kills count dooku
@DarkCreed86
@DarkCreed86 4 жыл бұрын
Chucky kills Dracula
@emperorryanii
@emperorryanii 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Cook , lol
@tavellclinton9256
@tavellclinton9256 4 жыл бұрын
It would make more sense if Gandalf created the shield to protect himself from Saruman's fire blast.
@yungganon187
@yungganon187 4 жыл бұрын
And Will Turner kills both Dooku and Chucky
@haraldemerson7496
@haraldemerson7496 4 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP.
@SlayerSeraph
@SlayerSeraph Жыл бұрын
2:38 Can we all just utterly appreciate how Legolas agreed promptly to shoot, at Gimli's behest, without even giving it second thought?
@BlackAlbino2000
@BlackAlbino2000 Жыл бұрын
Never understood why they left this wonderful scene out of the main version
@lw3646
@lw3646 3 ай бұрын
Not sure it makes sense. Why would they trust Saurman to be truthful? Chances are he'd just give them more false information to make things worse for them. The character clearly can't be trusted.
@NitpickingNerd
@NitpickingNerd 3 ай бұрын
Because it wasnt like in the book
@Archedgar
@Archedgar 12 күн бұрын
@@NitpickingNerd Yeah. It was worse in the book. This makes way more sense and is more thematically consistent.
@bensmith1584
@bensmith1584 3 жыл бұрын
3:30 I love this part. You can tell Saruman's insults to Theoden cut right to the core. For the rest of this film, he reckons with these words and his ride to Gondor is based on proving Saruman wrong. It really re-establishes his character for this film. Shame it was cut out but thankfully we have the EE.
@sweeperboy
@sweeperboy 2 жыл бұрын
It's really great writing by Tolkien (altered a bit for the film). It's of course a lie, but like the best lies it has a lot of truth woven in amongst it. The House of Eorl (Rohan) is literally housed in a giant thatched barn-like palace, there is a strong drinking culture amongst the Rohirrim (although it's a bit rich of Saruman to call them brigands, since he employed plenty of actual brigands) and their children probably did roll around playing with dogs in the corners. And I believe I recall Theoden himself in the book referring to himself as a lesser son of greater sires, even though that didn't turn out to be true in the end...so Saruman knew exactly which buttons to press. The biggest aspect of the lie of course is that the House of Eorl is not "but" (just) those things, but much, much more.
@unslimshady764
@unslimshady764 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr. Best insult of all time 😂😂
@iamAwesomo1994
@iamAwesomo1994 Жыл бұрын
couldn't just type extended edition?
@brodyleffler1228
@brodyleffler1228 Жыл бұрын
Aww hell naw he insulted his homeland
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 Жыл бұрын
@@sweeperboy It’s sort of an uncomfortable lie that Saruman deceptively makes out to be the uncomfortable truth.
@Flynn94
@Flynn94 3 жыл бұрын
*”We shall have peace...we shall have peace when you answer for the burning of the West Fold, and the children that lie dead there! We shall have peace when the lives of the soldiers whose bodies were hewn even as they lay dead against the gates of the Hornburg are avenged! When you hang from a gibbet for the sport of your own crows- we shall have peace...”* I’ve got chills.
@AA-jp9cj
@AA-jp9cj 2 жыл бұрын
"Gibbets and crows! Dotard!"
@YouTubeisgettingworse.
@YouTubeisgettingworse. 2 жыл бұрын
@@AA-jp9cj What do you want Gandalf Grey?
@ErikoLima
@ErikoLima 2 жыл бұрын
Theoden has the best speeches
@toastrecon
@toastrecon 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that it's exactly how he ended up, hanging from a gibbet after falling from the tower.
@PajafromPrague
@PajafromPrague 2 жыл бұрын
In other words when donkeys fly . And as we say in Czech when it rains and drys up
@MantismanTM
@MantismanTM 2 жыл бұрын
3:14 - Theoden to Grimma. "Be free of him!" A true king and leader of people. Grimmas character & actor absolutely NAILED his role.
@quadrefriday4919
@quadrefriday4919 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact it the guy who voices Chucky
@kl3321
@kl3321 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a shame this scene got cut bc Dourif did great here
@angelofiron4366
@angelofiron4366 Жыл бұрын
"Get down. Cur!"
@andywood375
@andywood375 Жыл бұрын
thumbs up if you know why Christopher Lee makes the noise he does at 4:30
@angieliang8475
@angieliang8475 4 жыл бұрын
“The key of Orthanc? Or perhaps the keys of Barad-dur itself? And the seven crowns of the kings and the five staffs of the wizards?” Gandalf: Actually if you could give me those that would be great thanks Saruman: What
@lv3275
@lv3275 4 жыл бұрын
Angie Liang hahahah lol ^^
@jeltemellema8438
@jeltemellema8438 3 жыл бұрын
+Angie Liang Saruman: The key of Orthanc? Or perhaps the keys of Barad-Dur itself? And the Seven crowns of the kings and the five staffs of the wizards? Gandalf: Just tea thank u
@andyknightwarden9746
@andyknightwarden9746 3 жыл бұрын
Neat thing: that seven crowns thing is an oblique reference to the seven male Valar in the Undying Lands.
@faisalabdullahfarhanbba-3010
@faisalabdullahfarhanbba-3010 3 жыл бұрын
He said 'rods' not 'staff'. Rods are better I guess.
@viniciusvyller9458
@viniciusvyller9458 3 жыл бұрын
No, its the crowns of the seven dwarf lords
@Darksaviour
@Darksaviour 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame Legolas killed Grima. From theodan’s face it seemed like he was actually going to pardon him and accept him back.
@guren6770
@guren6770 3 жыл бұрын
I think legolas think he could save saruman at least without 1 or 2 stabs. Shame he died tho grima was good.
@donnaquixote7538
@donnaquixote7538 2 жыл бұрын
I find it moving how after everything Grima does, Theoden still offers forgivance to him.
@Nyah420
@Nyah420 2 жыл бұрын
@@donnaquixote7538 Very kingly of him.
@brittanyleighbarnett
@brittanyleighbarnett 2 жыл бұрын
Why did he even kill grima? I thought grima killing S was a sign that he had changed for the better
@SpookyRumi
@SpookyRumi 2 жыл бұрын
@@brittanyleighbarnett I think it was to try to save saruman, he could've been more useful alive
@HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe
@HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe 3 ай бұрын
You can feel Theodens anger and complete outrage at Saruman offering "peace"
@yosefpennleon2101
@yosefpennleon2101 Жыл бұрын
This scene is amazing I'm so glad they restored it for the re-cut. Lee's acting dominates the scene even when saruman loses his power.
@ecthox-1mork909
@ecthox-1mork909 3 жыл бұрын
I love how throughout this scene, including most prominently after Saruman's fireball failed to kill him, Gandalf looks like he just pities Saruman
@eamonreidy9534
@eamonreidy9534 3 жыл бұрын
Gandalf mercy, humbleness and kindness were his greatest strenght
@Cydonius1
@Cydonius1 3 жыл бұрын
"such a powerful wizard and yet he only has fireball level 1 learned, tsk tsk tsk"
@zachv465
@zachv465 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel that Gandalf knew that the reason that Saurman turned dark was because of his fear of losing the battle of middle earth and lack of faith in humanity; which made him more power hungry as time went on. This is because power made him feel in control over the situations that made him feel powerless. It’s too bad we never saw scenes of how Saurman was when he did have faith in humanity, because he had already passively given up on middle earth by the time the Hobbit started. (I’m making judgements of what I watch in the movies, not a reflection of what’s depicted in the books)
@ninjalanternshark1508
@ninjalanternshark1508 2 жыл бұрын
Sauruman(and Elrond) helped save Gandalf in the past, so Gandalf was like wtf mate, why u mad and killin every one
@Kultmannen
@Kultmannen 2 жыл бұрын
He probably does... Saruman is a fallen Wizard. One of the good guys turned evil. He is suffering the fate that Gandalf himself fears the most, and knows could happen to him too.
@jarrodyuki7081
@jarrodyuki7081 4 жыл бұрын
that still only counts as one.
@anakinskywalker9218
@anakinskywalker9218 3 жыл бұрын
Counts as one because its Count dooku
@nilayshenai3580
@nilayshenai3580 3 жыл бұрын
@@anakinskywalker9218 yep
@j-rcctrigga9731
@j-rcctrigga9731 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus this has to be one of the most beautiful moments of the entire trilogy. . . So much respect for a man like Christopher Lee correcting his director to deliver a finished product to his audience and fans ( and a true hero at that having served in WWll ).... Only wish Jackson would have allowed this in his finished theatrical cut ( it was a bad creative decision to pull in this scene as it never made sense forcing your audience to walk out of the theaters with that huge plot hole of "what the hell ever happened to Saruman?" as he's obviously the second largest threat to middle Earth after Sauron. Damn R.I.P. Christopher Lee. Glad he got to see his scene restored before his passing.
@vond5829
@vond5829 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he argued with the director about how Saruman should sound like when he's being stabbed
@rhydianruns
@rhydianruns 2 жыл бұрын
The moment when Dracula hurls a fireball at Magneto, is killed by Chucky and then Chucky is killed by Will Turner Edit: jeez thanks for the likes guys 😊
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
@user-ix1rp9ff3p 2 жыл бұрын
wait Cristopher Lee has played Dracula before?
@rhydianruns
@rhydianruns 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ix1rp9ff3p yeah
@NKript
@NKript 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ix1rp9ff3p that’s what made him famous originally.
@owyemen9367
@owyemen9367 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Chucky connection god I watched that movie so many times I can't unsee it now
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
@user-ix1rp9ff3p 2 жыл бұрын
@@nihalr_ not Bela Lugosi?
@wraithprince
@wraithprince 3 жыл бұрын
"Gibbets and crows... dotard!" I love when he said that. Masterful acting.
@ZugzugZugzugson
@ZugzugZugzugson Жыл бұрын
i looked up what dotard means... it basically means "retarded old demented man".
@spookytimescaryvideos4395
@spookytimescaryvideos4395 Жыл бұрын
That is amazing line delivery
@norakbubbles
@norakbubbles Жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who felt really bad for Grima in this moment. It was clear in Two Towers that he regretted what he had done, as evidenced by his reaction after seeing the orc army. Theoden did seem like he wanted to help him, to bring him back to Rohan. And Grima looked like he still respected Theoden, like he actually wanted to leave back to Rohan and redeem himself. I was honestly very upset that he died so suddenly
@nateblack5738
@nateblack5738 4 ай бұрын
Same, tbh I don’t exactly understand why Legolas killed him?
@Grivian
@Grivian 2 жыл бұрын
Pure chills from Theoden's speech
@JukesMcGee
@JukesMcGee 2 жыл бұрын
"You are the lesson son of greater sires" He just went medieval on him with that roast.
@tonertonki
@tonertonki 11 ай бұрын
You are a LESSER son of greater sires.. Check your hearing.
@Atlas226
@Atlas226 10 ай бұрын
​@tonertonki eh it was probably autocorrect
@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite
@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite Ай бұрын
Which counts as a derogatory pun, since horses are sired by their parents.
@bongobongo985
@bongobongo985 Ай бұрын
Secretariat just ran another lap around Sham with that one.
@vladtepes97
@vladtepes97 12 күн бұрын
@@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite all sexually reproduced creatures, be they bipedal, quadripedal, or even vegetative, are sired by their parents. it is not a derogatory term.
@gabrieloviedo9265
@gabrieloviedo9265 3 жыл бұрын
So let me guess straight, Saruman firsts tries to “make peace” with Théoden. Then he roasts Aragorn and tries to roast Gandalf (both figuratively and literally), roasts Grima for a bit, roasts Théoden, then tries to convince Gandalf to let him go, and then gets stabbed and dies. What a way to go!
@ummdustry5718
@ummdustry5718 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would have gone down if Hitler had made a radio broadcast before his death, calling Churchill fat, FDR boring and saying Stalins moustache looks like a catapiller...
@gabrieloviedo9265
@gabrieloviedo9265 3 жыл бұрын
@@ummdustry5718 that’s hilarious
@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318
@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318 3 жыл бұрын
@@ummdustry5718 he, like you, would be a goddamn legend. Literally if that happened I'd probably become a neo-nazi
@magallanesagustin4952
@magallanesagustin4952 3 жыл бұрын
@@ummdustry5718 like the French taunter from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 2 жыл бұрын
@@ummdustry5718 hmmm, would hans Krebs proceeds to stab hitler in the back afterwards?
@scorpio_9810
@scorpio_9810 Жыл бұрын
The petrified look on Pippin's face at 1:59 when Saruman declares, "you're all going to die" was just too real. 😆 He looked genuinely scared.
@thenationalradar8355
@thenationalradar8355 2 жыл бұрын
Even after everything Grima did to him, Theoden still wanted to help him and recognized that he was manipulated too. What was also awesome is even after Saurman tried to insult Rohan, Theoden ignored him with Kingly grace and kept the focus on helping his countryman.
@zanicboom
@zanicboom 3 жыл бұрын
2:39 i love how legolas is like: sure bro where do you want it?
@dontale8176
@dontale8176 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh why did they cut this out that was brutal for lord of the rings rip sarumaun
@DREWVIX1992
@DREWVIX1992 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why they cut it out, you said it yourself it was brutal for Lord Of the Rings.
@al3x4nderthegreat80
@al3x4nderthegreat80 4 жыл бұрын
They should've just cut the fall!
@DREWVIX1992
@DREWVIX1992 4 жыл бұрын
@@al3x4nderthegreat80 Im sure they had their reasons. Budgeting maybe
@KougaJ7
@KougaJ7 4 жыл бұрын
No reason other than people gladly paying extra for seeing the final stand-off with the then-greatest enemy that the fellowship faced.
@kaletovhangar
@kaletovhangar 4 жыл бұрын
@sam Well,much of this scene did happen, barring his death atop of Ortanc.Grima killed him in shire the similar way (cutting his throat).
@culverp1138
@culverp1138 7 ай бұрын
Never understood why this scene was cut from the theatrical version. Seems very important to the overall plot
@ChristianFrates1997
@ChristianFrates1997 6 ай бұрын
It sure is important.
@biboiashsson0793
@biboiashsson0793 4 ай бұрын
Yes! I watched the regular movie and wondered where the heck Saruman went
@Candystripedshredder
@Candystripedshredder 2 жыл бұрын
*Saruman* : "The victory at Helm's Deep does not belong to you, Théoden "Horsemaster". You are a *lesser* son of *greater* sires. What is the House of Rohan but a thatched *barn* where *brigands* drink in the *reek* while their *brats* roll on the floor with the *dogs* ..." *Théoden* : "The *FUCK* you say about my dogs?!"
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is Saruman is right about Rohan though lol
@WondrousLanternProductions
@WondrousLanternProductions 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite parts of this scene, which I find is extremely overlooked, is when Theoden talks to Grima. It's a great reflection upon his character from when we first see him come out of his "Saruman Shell" and back into his former self. He literally goes form being a man full of rage and anger at Grima to a leader who anyone in Middle Earth would want to follow. It's a great study of character. He's willing to forgive and welcome Grima back into Rohan as a former man of Rohan. It's a very great part of the scene and I enjoy how they added it into the movie.
@Greatbonzz
@Greatbonzz 3 жыл бұрын
You can also see the remorse in Theoden's face when he sees Grima get shot down as well. :(
@mminlovewithflo
@mminlovewithflo 3 жыл бұрын
I love Theoden, maybe my favourite character
@nickyboy22071989
@nickyboy22071989 3 жыл бұрын
Then when Grima comes down chuck his ass in prison.
@vladimirblagojevic5937
@vladimirblagojevic5937 2 жыл бұрын
I always found that scene annoying and out of logic, hypocritical. He doesnt want to forgive Saruman (rightfully), but forgives the traitor that was almost equally responsible for death of all those children and warriors. What would people of your land think of you and their own future if you welcomed back that kind of person? Now, maybe there is more about his character in the books, but purely in the film, I didnt like this logic...
@nickyboy22071989
@nickyboy22071989 2 жыл бұрын
@@vladimirblagojevic5937 Pure politics dude. Imagine the intel that Grima might have. I mean, Saruman most likely told him fuck all, but still.
@DeadgrinCustoms
@DeadgrinCustoms 3 жыл бұрын
Even after everything Theoden was willing to spare Grima in this scene.
@florinherlea8376
@florinherlea8376 3 жыл бұрын
He was a great king
@Rep0007
@Rep0007 2 жыл бұрын
He was deliberately ingratiating and trying to get Grima to see that he could push Saruman down off the tower!
@kevinvalle137
@kevinvalle137 2 жыл бұрын
An great and noble king. RIP King Theoden
@Toxin___InterHalfer
@Toxin___InterHalfer 2 жыл бұрын
That was Frodo in the book and the scene happened at Shire which Saruman tried to turn into another Isengard
@exantiuse497
@exantiuse497 2 жыл бұрын
And he is shocked and saddened by his death. And why wouldn't he, Grima basically stabbed Saruman for righteous vengeange, and because he insulted Theoden. He was turning a new leaf, he didn't deserve to die. I didn't remember this scene being this sad
@jackmichaelpeter
@jackmichaelpeter Жыл бұрын
These films are absolutely insanely good compared to literally anything made these days. It was a crime to delete this scene from a feature film
@rosePetrichor
@rosePetrichor Жыл бұрын
Saruman's powers of persuasion were said to be such that of all the people still alive in Middle Earth at this moment, only Gandalf, Galadriel and perhaps Elrond could hear his words without feeling at least a little swayed. Even Aragorn was unsure he could match Saruman in a battle of words.
@bethanalpha4544
@bethanalpha4544 4 жыл бұрын
Saruman was described by Tolkien as the most powerful of the 5 wizards and his peculiarity was his voice and speech. His voice was so powerful and his words were so well put that he sounded wise even if he was saying nonsense: indeed he was very good at diplomacy because of his charming voice. You can clearly hear it, his deep smooth voice, when he tries to persuade Theoden to form an armistice. But king Theoden refuses, in fact he wants his head, and Saruman, who considers Theoden no more than a fool on a horse, a "lesser son of greater sires", swiftly scorns him and his voice loses all its suavity, no more veils and charm but the voice of an old man.
@nathancruz9172
@nathancruz9172 4 жыл бұрын
Beth Analpha 4:07 I’m very happy to see this extended scene of Saruman’s death. Except, they didn’t included it in theaters.
@michaelmatejka1068
@michaelmatejka1068 4 жыл бұрын
His voice is also a weapon. The way he rips Rohan and attacks Theoden verbally is crazy
@kylelucasalves
@kylelucasalves 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Awesome!
@johnbarrientosiii6586
@johnbarrientosiii6586 4 жыл бұрын
Beth Analpha 69 likes 🥴
@arindambag2866
@arindambag2866 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt Gandalf clearly more powerful then Saruman in this scene
@spencermartin4846
@spencermartin4846 2 жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to recognize how awesome Theodens monologue was
@ThePixelPodcast
@ThePixelPodcast 3 ай бұрын
Ikr so underrated. Fantastic acting
@XoravaX
@XoravaX 3 ай бұрын
And how that was original Tolkien from the beginning to the end.
@Bro_DT_KYE
@Bro_DT_KYE Жыл бұрын
Bruh... 20 years later, I'm just now seeing this? That movie so damn good I was satisfied without the knowledge of all these extra scenes. Now it just became even better. Gives me more content to talk about
@evananderson5855
@evananderson5855 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it’s cannon to the books but I love how powerful Saruman’s voice is. He can have a simple conversation from hundreds of feet away with someone, yet it’s so loud and vocal; even in the fellowship of the ring his voice could be heard hundreds of miles away from the mountain pass commanding a mountain to crumble. Saruman is bad ass!
@anku6793
@anku6793 Жыл бұрын
100% cannon
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Жыл бұрын
1200% canon
@saurabhsuryawanshi4886
@saurabhsuryawanshi4886 11 ай бұрын
His voice is very powerful and alluring. In this scene, in the book, Even those who are against him are put at ease when he speaks to them in a "sweet" tone. He's able to capture attention, pty and favour for himself simply by his voice. But at some point, he snaps at that group and suddenly they realise he's an evil, evil force. The only unaffected ones are Gandalf, Legolas and Aragorn - even Theoden and his army are enraptured by his speech.
@mikespearwood3914
@mikespearwood3914 6 ай бұрын
@@anku6793 Ka-boom!
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 4 жыл бұрын
When Saruman was stabbed, he reacted very realistically (people don't scream when they're stabbed in the back or the chest, but lose their breath). But when Gríma gets shot, he reacted like every movie character does when they're impaled; screaming.
@minecraftmaniac84
@minecraftmaniac84 3 жыл бұрын
its almost like he was intentionally trying to do that
@crimsonspartanstudios5641
@crimsonspartanstudios5641 3 жыл бұрын
@@minecraftmaniac84 Because he was doing it intentionally, Peter Jackson originally wanted him to scream but CL told him what actually happens when you stab someone in the back because he's stabbed people in the back during the war so he knows first hand.
@wyceholliday1317
@wyceholliday1317 3 жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if you’ve seen the deleted scenes and watched Christopher Lee talk about that explicitly!
@lejulietterayne2436
@lejulietterayne2436 3 жыл бұрын
Because Christopher lee has seen war and he knows what happens when someone is killed a certain way. Grimas character does not. That's what happens when you use real life experiences in acting. Which is what makes true acting.
@diekomet6950
@diekomet6950 3 жыл бұрын
That's because Christopher Lee has actually killed people in real life by stabbing them in the back
@Swoost
@Swoost 3 жыл бұрын
its dope how sarumans voice is kinda like amplified like youre right next to him while everyone else sounds more distant, its def because one of sarumans greatest magical gifts was the power of his voice and speech
@david9243
@david9243 3 жыл бұрын
You’re spot on. Its basically a whole chapter in the books about Sarumans voice.
@willgold9989
@willgold9989 2 жыл бұрын
“When you hang from a gibbet… For the sport of your own crows… We shall have peace.”
@thomasplinguidy4588
@thomasplinguidy4588 Жыл бұрын
What a powerful scene - never understood why they had to cut the one from the theatrical version. As a result, the cinema films have a logical hole. Since the Shire doesn't need to be liberated anymore in the movies, you'd think the old villain is still stuck in his tower. I think that Saruman ends up impaled in front of his tower in the extended version was also intended as a nod to Lee's great past as Dracula.
@Bull1908
@Bull1908 4 жыл бұрын
Very dissappointed and angered this wasn't in the theatrical cut.
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bull But am glad it was included in the Extended Cut; which is infinitely more popular anyway.
@nathans1899
@nathans1899 4 жыл бұрын
@@TKinfinity01 is it? Most people I know have never seen it unless they're super fans.
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathans1899 The Lord of the Rings Extended Cut was the most popular amazon order from a couple of years ago when it was on sale. In the end though, its the fans who truly care to see it anyway.
@WYJAFAK2
@WYJAFAK2 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve only seen the extended version until last night. When this scene didn’t show up I was pretty confused. I might be bias because I’ve seen the extended more but I watched the theatrical ROTK after TT and it just seems strange that Saruman being a big antagonist is just breezes over like “he has no power anymore. Okay let’s move on”
@joeyjerry1586
@joeyjerry1586 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s kind of weird. The last we see of Saruman is him looking down at Isengard from his tower and then when Théoden and Fellowship arrive, we’re told Saruman has no power and his "ball" is just somewhere in the ruins with no explanation and it just doesn’t feel right that we don’t know the fate of him as he is one of the big villains. Still doesn’t ruin the movie in any way, which is practically perfect in every way.
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 3 жыл бұрын
I love the dialogue in this scene. It feels like genuine medieval English literature.
@Silmirel
@Silmirel 2 жыл бұрын
A lot was lifted straight from the book for this scene 😊
@spookytimescaryvideos4395
@spookytimescaryvideos4395 Жыл бұрын
Gibbets and crows? Dotum!
@avrace2708
@avrace2708 Жыл бұрын
Ecxatly, sad that modern fantasy like Witcher, or even GoT dont have this vibe
@mitchelanhalt5261
@mitchelanhalt5261 Жыл бұрын
@@avrace2708 To be fair, The Witcher does have it's moments. Unlike Game of Thrones.
@princevesperal
@princevesperal Жыл бұрын
@@avrace2708 Game of Thrones sometimes did, but only in earlier seasons when the source material was available! In any case, Game of Thrones is meant to be less epic and more realistic. It was written as a reaction to Lord of the Rings. But there were still literary expressions: Circei said things like "By what right dare you lay hands on my blood?" and "You condemn yourself with your own mouth!"
@Yardnoc3103
@Yardnoc3103 23 күн бұрын
Rip Theoden King
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097 Жыл бұрын
This scene is slowly becoming my favorite scene in the trilogy. Just Saruman up there verbally owning everyone from his tower, even though he is trapped up there. The wizards are just on a different level, so much so that the king of Rohan seems like a peasant by comparison. All Théoden can do is emphasize that Saruman has lost, which is an easy win in the verbal arena so he's smart enough to take that angle, and he still gets owned.
@superlegomaster55
@superlegomaster55 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@LazyOldFusspot_3428
@LazyOldFusspot_3428 7 ай бұрын
Saruman had a rather pathetic death in the films, but if you think about it, that's kinda actually the point.
@davidmccarthy4206
@davidmccarthy4206 3 жыл бұрын
2:22 Interesting that Gimli is the character we see react to these words. When Saruman says this, I think of Thorin Oakenshield, whom Gandalf encouraged to take back Erebor, and who died trying. Maybe Gimli has a sudden thought for him.
@royalhero4608
@royalhero4608 2 жыл бұрын
Or Bilbo, as Gimli would be fully aware of how Bilbo helped his kin and Gandalf's hand in it
@Polo-wk7zl
@Polo-wk7zl 3 ай бұрын
“When you hang from a gibbet for the sport of your own crows.” Goes hard ngl.
@Matt-cz6ti
@Matt-cz6ti 9 ай бұрын
Christopher Lee was a simply incredible talent. He is much missed
@jacktoma21
@jacktoma21 4 жыл бұрын
Man not only does this scene give a perfect conclusion to one of the main villains of the previous movies, he also sets up a lot of the archs in this movie to come, such as Gandalf, Aragorn, and Theoden
@hopelessclown
@hopelessclown 3 жыл бұрын
Which really makes one wonder why it was cut from the theatrical version. It's been over a decade since I saw the theatrical verion, I only watch the extended now, but it's still a shame that this scene isn't part of my memories of my first viewing of LotR.
@owyemen9367
@owyemen9367 2 жыл бұрын
@@hopelessclown well it wouldn't fit in the structure of the films, it didn't really fit anywhere in the story
@dannyjames8894
@dannyjames8894 3 жыл бұрын
Saruman was my favourite character, even when I was a child, there was something that was more dark and real about his character that isn't in the other characters in my eyes also, it's Christopher Lee...
@Trollamollex
@Trollamollex 3 жыл бұрын
True, his motives are something more realistic of a person with that much power. Even in the books I think he wanted the ring for himself. He would have probably become the ultimate power of the world if he had it.
@kyledahlquist9423
@kyledahlquist9423 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Saruman is Christopher Lee's other secondary antagonist, that serves as the primary antagonist of the second movie of a trilogy, and dies at the beginning of the third.
@ToxicPancake88
@ToxicPancake88 Жыл бұрын
Theodens “we shall have peace” speech is delivered so well 👌🏻
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 10 ай бұрын
Bernard Hill as Theoden was one of my Favourite casting choices in Peter Jackson's adaptations.
@sleepinggiant1673
@sleepinggiant1673 3 жыл бұрын
when his staff breaks, someone yells BOOM 3:08 for dramatic effects
@CharlotteGamesMC
@CharlotteGamesMC 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Saruman grunts like he got a bruise
@cursedderg4541
@cursedderg4541 3 жыл бұрын
Its part of the spell.
@arniekevinvalera8166
@arniekevinvalera8166 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard it toooo!
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 BOOM 😂😂😂
@leandromiguel4481
@leandromiguel4481 3 жыл бұрын
That was actually Saruman
@benhuether5474
@benhuether5474 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly one of the most iconic evil wizards (aside from Voldemort, Morgoth, and Sauron himself) in all of film and literature. Though Sauron and Morgoth are technically more powerful sorcerers in Tolkien's Legendarium Saruman (with his black staff and glowing Palantir) summated the popular image of the Evil Sorcerer in early High Fantasy.
@Endless_Spirals
@Endless_Spirals 10 ай бұрын
It is so heartwarming when King Theoden tries to get Grima to come down and free himself from Saruman's influence. Theoden probably understands now better than anyone how powerful Saruman's magic was and how much he can warp someone's mind. Grima did horrible things and maybe he didn't deserve any redemption, but it did look like he felt genuinely guilty when Theoden spoke to him. I'm not a big fan of the way they had Legolas kill him, but it is what it is.
@tempestnirvana3543
@tempestnirvana3543 Жыл бұрын
Theoden, Gandalf, Saruman have such powerful voices, i can listen all day! I love this conversation, wish it was longer!
@darthjoshua6663
@darthjoshua6663 3 жыл бұрын
All Saruman scenes are pure gold
@JLee-ws4dl
@JLee-ws4dl 3 жыл бұрын
Got mad respect for Theoden he's a great leader and you can tell from his speech how much he values and cares for his people, not just civilians but also his soldiers and you can tell his men respect him too
@ricedonut6567
@ricedonut6567 Жыл бұрын
And pardoned Grima and was willing to accept him back
@fragglet
@fragglet 2 жыл бұрын
SARUMAN: Victory at Helms Deep does not belong to you, Theoden horse master! THEODEN (thinking): He's right though, I really am pretty great with horses
@memecraftstudios5976
@memecraftstudios5976 2 жыл бұрын
Gandalf: Goes to place after Maiar die and gets sent back for his good deeds Saruman: goes to same place, get's rejected and sentenced to life in hell
@johnbarrientosiii6586
@johnbarrientosiii6586 4 жыл бұрын
How did he get up there. Like there’s no doors, or stairs or anything..
@x51p
@x51p 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. It's a good place to self isolate though!
@jaredjosue_
@jaredjosue_ 4 жыл бұрын
I’d expect a wizard would know something about unexplainable things
@johnbarrientosiii6586
@johnbarrientosiii6586 4 жыл бұрын
Jared Garcia yea buh what about Grima
@IndianTelephone
@IndianTelephone 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know the floor doesn't slide open with a lift upstairs
@johnbarrientosiii6586
@johnbarrientosiii6586 4 жыл бұрын
IndianTelephone yea das true
@Wertical93
@Wertical93 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Christopher Lee´s acting was soooo brilliant (not that I know anything about acting).. How he belittles our heroes, how almost disgusted he is, I almost want to be evil
@thruwaterz9501
@thruwaterz9501 23 күн бұрын
R.I.P Bernard Hill
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 23 күн бұрын
Hopefully he has peace.
@thruwaterz9501
@thruwaterz9501 23 күн бұрын
@@Ragitsu Such a badass quote! 😆
@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty Жыл бұрын
Grima... you were not always as you are now. You were once a doll named Chuckie!
@just_cade
@just_cade 2 жыл бұрын
"Gandalf does not hesitate to _sacrifice_ those closest to him...those he professes to LOVE." So powerful.
@shanemccormick8667
@shanemccormick8667 Жыл бұрын
Tell me Gandalf, what words of comfort did you give to him before you sent him to his death?
@scorpio_9810
@scorpio_9810 Жыл бұрын
@@shanemccormick8667 ....give the halfling....
@thomasmartin4281
@thomasmartin4281 Жыл бұрын
Saruman had a ton of burns, even Theoden was left pretty doubtful of himself until the Battle of the Pelennor Fields
@just_cade
@just_cade Жыл бұрын
@@thomasmartin4281 I love this chapter in the book, we really get to see the mind of Saruman so perfectly
@anzaeria
@anzaeria Жыл бұрын
Life is not without risks.
@Tigerkeeper818
@Tigerkeeper818 3 жыл бұрын
The way he says, "You are all going to die" just gives me chills. Rest in peace sir
@wowwow6499
@wowwow6499 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I found it so hilarious when Saruman says "So you've come here for Informaetion".😂
@thebigman4523
@thebigman4523 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's hella funny Christopher Lee never failed to deliver a funny line.
@dariciesglaciem3009
@dariciesglaciem3009 Жыл бұрын
ikr.. he seemed genuinely happy about it as well xd
@LanceCorporalHawk30
@LanceCorporalHawk30 7 ай бұрын
The beautiful thing about Saruman landing on the spike at the end? Peter Jackson officially became the last director to put a stake through Christopher Lee’s heart, since he was known for playing as Dracula in the Hammer horror films. He tried to be slick about it, making sure none of the crew said anything relating to ‘driving a stake though the heart’, but as soon as Jackson said “Action”, Christopher Lee glared at the camera and said “This is strangely familiar. 20 years ago, I looked up and saw Peter Cushing. Now all the way down here in New Zealand, I look up and see Peter Jackson”
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