I sure hope not. It looks iconic.

Is there any in-universe lore reason why lotuses are powerful sources of mana?

Lotus and Bolt are so iconic adding more words makes it less impactful

Yes

You'll be fine. The word "Lotus" carries a lot of weight.

"Officer, I swear. This is legitimate, legacy-legal mana. I can show you all the paperwork where it was made with Doubling Cube. Those charges about me smuggling a jeweled lotus are slander."

To be fair, It took like 20 years to break led. Original lotus was inherently broken.

I decided to cut Garth out since it didn't fit literally the Lotus name (otherwise you start wondering about Crop Rotation, SLD Cultivate, etc, where they're in the flavor text) but HM to Garth for sure. :)

@@GoodMorningMagic Garth is different because it actually casts Black Lotus

I wish WOTC would print the tokens for Garth as this would be a perfect way (besides re-issuing another Collectors set) to reprint reserved list cards. Ones that are permanents anyways. I would like to build a powered cube someday and I would rather use authentic cards instead of buying fakes or creating proxies. I've owned 3 Black Lotus etc and nearly everything else before I traded my collection. I would like to re-create and reintroduce that feeling in a cube with friends I played with in the 90's and wish for our kids and friends who don't have the same experience of playing kitchen top paper Black Lotus. The card is special, but the reserved list has scaled it to an absurd level that to me misses the point. Because what is more special is the experience in game play from the card. And even if I win the lottery (which I never play) I'm not going to re-acquire the Power-9 to play or even invest in for that matter. That makes me feel cheated and it makes me feel other players who never played with them are cheated as well.

@@jameshayes-barber9340 he doesn't cast Black Lotus, he creates a token copy

What's your point? You can't just type words you've heard before, you have to go somewhere with what you're saying. You might as well have just typed in "penguin" and nothing else.

Think about it, set the MV to 3 and now its a turn 1 commander, set it to 6 and it makes a balanced card broken, set it to 9 and there’s no targets but the more cards added the more likely it does something absurd. The problem isn’t the commander restriction. The problem is it costs 0 mana. The problem is it makes more mana than it costs. A fairer version to make big commanders playable would be to make it cost 1 mana to play and reduce casting cost of a colored commander by 3 colorless. Or to remove commander tax on commanders with mv greater than 3. Still costing 1 mv itself.

I'd make it enter tapped or suspend 1. That way it's still powerful and exciting but allows more interactivity.

@@jcstaff1007 Considering we have so many options to accelerate our mana, you know... Commander IS the place that has Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Mox Opal, Mox Diamond, Mox Amber, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal... I don't think Jeweled Lotus is that much of an issue. It's strong and can sometimes be the reason someone runs away with the game... But you can say that about Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vau... You get the picture. That being said, restricting the card to high cost commanders (like 6 plus) would genuinely balance the card. Commanders are typically linchpins or the engines of decks, so restricting yourself to such a high cost makes it much harder for your deck to come online. Risking early removal by accelerating it out so quickly could burn you out of the game.

Lotus petal would be great in any format tbh

@Doom Posterior Why? So only people with money can play with it?

@Doom Posterior No, the reserve list is directly harmful to the eternal formats and was a knee jerk reaction to the complaints of a small minority, most of which never played the game to begin with. It needs to be removed.

Clearly they don't know how to make commander Legends sets.

@@Fausto_4841 The first one was a home run, the second one was fun to draft and had a lot of fun new tools for commander decks, but it lacked the one crucial detail that the first had: A lot of good old reprints for the format. It was mostly new cards. If you've read MaRo's latest article he admits that it was a mistake on their part to do Battle for Baldur's Gate the way they did it (I personally think people would have been a lot less upset if the set had around 50 odd good older cards that needed a reprint for the format), and that they have learned from that mistake. The set was still a success and people enjoyed it, they just didn't feel like it was a Commander Legends set because it didn't deliver on what people expected it to do: Much needed reprints for the format. Hopefully they will remember this lesson for the next Commander Legends set.

It feels like that card should cost 3 colorless phyrexian mana and be just black lotus in every other aspect. It feels right but at the same time it would be an absurd card, more so in death's shadow.

​@@friki1282 you've gotta remember, phyrexians already discovered a mox opal...so it can be of any mana colour! :)

Or maybe a mox version of Noxious Bayou

@@friki1282 they'd have to Compleat it in some way, making the card dramatically worse if you pay the life. I'd be scared to even make if a Dark Ritual if you don't compleat it, because as an artifact you can just reanimate it... On that note: WotC take notes. I now want this to be a card. Compleated Ritual (Compleated Black) You may spend Black or 2 life to cast this spell. Add three black mana. If life was spent to cast this spell, add one instead.

Can you tell something intresting? 👀

@@Apromdus he’s a card designer

I really like this deck too.

Stop with the screaming

That has no exchange other than opportunity cost, which really isn't when multi colored commanders open up major opportunities to begin with.

Same. I love devotion as a mechanic

inb4 Gavin re-uploads this video during spoiler season for Dominaria United.

Sounded like a hint at the end (to me)...

@@RadAbishai That was a hint at the end. “Only TIME will tell”.

Revised came out before the reserved list was created, which came out after Chronicles.

@@cugeltheclever2957 Thats actually a good comparison though, and part of my confusion. Considering no Chronicles cards are RL. Why wasnt the same true of Revised?