@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
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@chaoticignorant483 Жыл бұрын
Not a *single* NOFX or Bad Religion album made me rage, only thing I can think is that they call them 'regular' punk?
@bricklinkshopthebricksanes5130 Жыл бұрын
@@chaoticignorant483 Yeah! And also add Goldfinger to your comment. To be honest, due to my age I might have missed some bands during the last 10-20 years, but common, there are some all time classics like Goldfinger and NOFX to be mentioned! Uh, and even if I don't know if "Rise Against" belongs to the pop-punk genre, I personally would put them in there. Compared to some bands they listed, they defintely do also pop-punk!
@atvena Жыл бұрын
How do emo and powerpop bands make the list with no simple plan ?
@SuperDeadRooster Жыл бұрын
Be honest, this video should have had REACTS in the title.
@benodell7906 Жыл бұрын
The reason rich people can’t be taken seriously in music is because rich people always define their taste as opposed to popular or “low brow” taste. When sugar was rare wealthy people loved super sweet cocktails, now that sugar is everywhere, those kind of drinks are trashy, and sophisticated drinks are bitter and “complex”. The same thing happens with any art form or any form of consumption.
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
Great example with the sugar thing!
@StefanMedici Жыл бұрын
Of course. Same with tobacco, coffee, tea, cocoa, spices. The opposite is true as well though, jazz, blues, rock n roll, etc etc was low class until it was so successful that the "higher ups" decided it was good.
@charles_cody Жыл бұрын
So it's true the Negroni is a drink for all people.
@julianvolmerhaus4312 Жыл бұрын
Where is Simple Plan? When people talk about pop-punk they always miss Simple Plan. Such an underrated band imo
@justified_edc Жыл бұрын
100%
@yourmomscomment Жыл бұрын
They miss them cus they're garbo
@walterfilho9550 Жыл бұрын
no
@JulianSollenskog Жыл бұрын
Not having Smash on this list is shocking. Best selling independent album of all time, and a cornerstone of what was at the time a rapidly evolving genre.
@Danielmcguffeyxo Жыл бұрын
I agree but I think it’s definitely more punk than pop punk. Nonetheless you’re right shoulda been on the list.
@atvena Жыл бұрын
The Offspring were more punk rock the closest they came to being pop punk was being skate punk and of course "want you bad" lol
@fuzzmosisr8601 Жыл бұрын
I think the bigger snub is Rancid. They kinda fall in that same gray area but I'd say an album like And Out Come The Wolves is more pop punk than anything from the Descendents
@danielglatz1643 Жыл бұрын
@@fuzzmosisr8601 as a a huge rancid fan I respectfully can’t agree. There’s a certain sound a associate with pop punk and rancid just doesn’t sound like pop punk.
@magyk5740 Жыл бұрын
Smash is a bit more punk I’d say, but Americana or even R&F,R&G should be on here over some of the random albums
@austin_l Жыл бұрын
The Ataris- Blue skies broken hearts, Face to Face- Don't turn away, Fenix TX- self titled, Gold Finger- self titled, Limp- Pop and disorderly,.... so many were missed. Who ever came up with this list wasn't around when it was happening.
@MetallicaRocksss Жыл бұрын
If Brand New is considered pop punk, then how the hell is blink-182's untitled album not on this list, it's a masterpiece.
@loganclarkmusic6474 Жыл бұрын
PREACH
@dinosorbutt Жыл бұрын
You really think its better than Acceptance?
@kcd485 Жыл бұрын
Brand New’s first album “Your Favorite Weapon” is pop punk and deserves to be on the list. “Deja Entendu” is not pop punk.
@hgeoffrion8097 Жыл бұрын
@@kcd485 totally agree
@andriyyurchyna8195 Жыл бұрын
Untitled is the worst blink album
@benkendall5562 Жыл бұрын
This list was definitely put together by a predominantly indie hipster fan but had a short-lived pop-punk phase as a kid so "knows what he's talking about", that sneaky midtown addition had me howling 😭😂
@Patrick-857 Жыл бұрын
All the music journos/bloggers seem to be hipsters. They are a plague.
@KitHavok Жыл бұрын
I gotta disagree..... I listened to Midtown back in 2002 and still have their albums on my shuffle playlist today.
@steeljaw19 Жыл бұрын
@@KitHavok I still listen to Midtown, they have a ton of talent and wrote some absolute bangers! Come on, direction, so long as we keep our bodies numb we're safe! So many good songs!
@nickjames841 Жыл бұрын
I love that album but it's not in my top 50 lol
@ERRATA1995 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised MEST wasn't on the list. Destination Unknown are one of the 10 best Pop Punk albums from the 00's (imo)
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
Yes! Love them
@fbennett1125 Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, that and wasting time were full great songs. No skips at all
@codyscards6698 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely .
@pantsnjacket381 Жыл бұрын
I'd say not even close to top 10.
@user-dt8rj2qg6y Жыл бұрын
Yes, nice band, although i prefer Photographs
@itschavez115 Жыл бұрын
For me always the holy trinity of pop punk (and NOT even my favorite pop punk bands and albums of this bands) is going to be. 1. Enema of The State. personal fav TOYPAJ 2. Dookie. personal fav Insomniac 3. All Killer No Filler personal fav. Does This Look Infected.
@chrisclifford4109 Жыл бұрын
I’m not even a huge fan of the genre but I’ve listened to these consistently from childhood to the present day
@chrisclifford4109 Жыл бұрын
@digital dirtbag I disagree. I think Dookie is a perfect example of Pop Punk. I actually think American Idiot is a weird inclusion, to me it sounds more like generic Alternative Rock than Pop Punk
@chasm9557 Жыл бұрын
@digital dirtbag I mostly agree with you. I do think Green Day is a pop punk band when you look at their entire discography, but Dookie to me feels like a straight up punk album that happens to be adjacent to the pop punk that was coming out at the time.
@DigiDeath Жыл бұрын
In terms of impact and influence, I 100% agree. Out of those, I tend to fall into the Green Day camp. I also liked Nimrod (mostly).
@chrisclifford4109 Жыл бұрын
@digital dirtbag yeah I see your point. To me American Idiot only has a couple songs (title track being one) that I’d call Pop Punk. It has ballads, more strait forwards alternative stuff, etc. It’s a rock opera too. Doesn’t seem Pop Punk to me. Kinda like how they included Milo Goes to College. Not Pop Punk either
@sophiemeredith-smith2766 Жыл бұрын
As a girl who loves Alkaline Trio so much I have their logo tattooed on me; I 100% agree. Red flag 🚩
@pm2055 Жыл бұрын
Is a man with an alkaline trio tattoo also a red flag? Asking for a friend
@BentonHart Жыл бұрын
I think I got mine in '04, maybe '05. I don't remember exactly, getting kinda old.
@mfc5808 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@Jorgecantstandya Жыл бұрын
First album I bought was “Enema of the state.” I was in fifth grade and we had to bring a song to play for music class. I wasn’t allowed to play blink but my friend somehow was able to play “girls girls girls” by Motley Crue.🤷🏼♂️
@Jorgecantstandya Жыл бұрын
And I’m definitely not bitter about it
@riffslayer42 Жыл бұрын
@@Jorgecantstandya you should have played all the small things, it's the most school appropriate song in that album
@Djfmdotcom Жыл бұрын
Agreed about the “randomness.” My knowledge of punk/pop-punk is limited, but it feels like someone in the office said “hey we need the Descendants on this list - who knows a Descendants album?” and voila, Everything Sucks is on the list.
@IAmKingTony Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed about this list is that they clumped eras of pop punk together. A lot of 90s skate punk in the beginning. 2010s sad boi in the middle.
@ShoelessJP Жыл бұрын
Motion City Soundtrack is definitely pop punk (the crossover between alt rock/pop punk/emo is very significant), also one of my all-time favorite albums. I love Loudwire, but trash list though, your reactions were good.
@bushleague3472 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that Zebrahead should have made that list, I'd probably go with the Phoenix album. One of relatively few pop punk bands that I can still listen to with any regularity. The problem with most pop punk is that it sounds great for about two weeks and then loses its apeal, Zebrahead always had more staying power for me. Rufio is the sound of kids trying to play at the absolute top of their skill level, I dig that even though the results are a bit rough.
@acerimmer8338 Жыл бұрын
Mutherfucking Zebrahead Bitch Yeah! My personal fave is Playmate of the Year, but they absolutely belong here.
@juicebox534 Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand is how in the world are you going to make a whole list of 50 pop punk albums and not at least once or twice list the Offspring. I just can’t wrap that around my head.
@chesterfield9682 Жыл бұрын
I wonder, Finn, would you do a video where you pick your top 5 of these? Or even a tier list where you place the albums in the list? Video ideas! (I'd watch that)
@zackoroworks Жыл бұрын
Honestly thought Rufio was always underrated, who else in that pop-punk scene even sounded close to that? To me they’re super original but maybe it’s love it or hate it
@paulstoller6753 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps...I Suppose was decent, great musicianship. Would maybe have expected to see that.
@zackoroworks Жыл бұрын
@@paulstoller6753 Right? That album was great...I'd put the drummer up there with travis tbh, the drummer is super creative for that entire genre - once again under-rated
@captainronpants Жыл бұрын
Okay, I understand my screen name is Rufio but they only got better with subsequent albums. They’re great for sure!
@missmaynard2310 Жыл бұрын
I ADORE Alkaline Trio So Much And Have Done Since I Heard Them Over 20 Years Ago, They're My All Time Favourite!! But You Definitely Low-Balled, There's 9 On My Prescription, Not Including Emergency Meds
@hanes2 Жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised there was no the Offspring- Smash from ‘94
@mrnordyk1125 Жыл бұрын
Not Pop Punk album. Skate Punk and Melo Hardcore. Very good album with many hits on it.
@krissymarklewis1793 Жыл бұрын
not really pop punk but they could have at least put Americana on there.
@mrnordyk1125 Жыл бұрын
@@krissymarklewis1793 Yes, Americana should be on the list.
@beautifulryann Жыл бұрын
How MCS didn't blow up is one of the world's greatest injustices
@KnivingDispodia Жыл бұрын
For real though. Justin Courtney Pierre is still releasing really solid stuff.
@beautifulryann Жыл бұрын
@@KnivingDispodia He's like the alpha nerd and I love him
@pantsnjacket381 Жыл бұрын
@AUGUST BURNS DOOM bro that's their best best album.
@bdeezy2962 Жыл бұрын
Yesss I loved them!!
@beautifulryann Жыл бұрын
@@pantsnjacket381 but that's not what I said
@TannerPatrick Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The emo/indie stuff is great, it just doesn’t fit the list. My takes... Relient K’s Mmhmm not being on the list is a big miss The Dangerous Summer’s “Reach For The Sun” would have been a nice addition The Starting Line’s “SILYMI” is a fantastic album, yes but “Based on a True Story” could have made it as well Same is true for NFG’s “Catalyst” A Sugarcult album would have been cool We all agree TOYPAJ is way too low
@TannerPatrick Жыл бұрын
I would also add Hit The Lights’ “Summer Bones” to the list. That album slaps
@paulstoller6753 Жыл бұрын
Totally with you on Mmmhmm. Having only come back to pop punk a couple of years ago at 36 years old after probably not listening since the late 00s - I stuck on Mmhmm and it mostly stands the test of time, better songs and musicianship than a lot of stuff on this list.
@vincentalvarado7058 Жыл бұрын
I feel like at least one of Simple Plan's albums should have made the top 50.
@garbonzobean1 Жыл бұрын
😂 Relient K is absolute hot garbage.
@TannerPatrick Жыл бұрын
@@vincentalvarado7058 yeah I had that thought too. Hawk Nelson had some bangers as well
@pm2055 Жыл бұрын
one of your best vids! love this. you hit every nail on the head except one. Rufio - perhaps i suppose is a classic! hahaha love that album
@ceejluige4816 Жыл бұрын
"When did Midtown become this band that everybody loved?" For me, it was the absolute single second I put "Save the world, lose the girl" in my car CD player. INSTANTLY fell in love. Midtown used to be one of my favorite bands. They still hold a very dear place in my heart.
@GamiGreen Жыл бұрын
Midtown were huge back in the day, as far as I remember everyone was into them
@oops6876 Жыл бұрын
For me, I looooved their final album, but all the earlier stuff just didn’t do it for me. It felt too amateur in my opinion, and not in the most endearing way.
@ceejluige4816 Жыл бұрын
@@oops6876 That's fair. Ironically, for most of the people I knew who listened to them, the final album was the only one we didn't really care for. Most of us went back in the last ten years to give it another listen and we all changed our minds. It's funny how that works out.
@atvena Жыл бұрын
Become what you hate was mine
@paulstoller6753 Жыл бұрын
Yeah feels like there is a lot of nostalgia on this list. Most of the stuff on Drive-Thru from back then just isn't actually that great looking back!
@OscarManners Жыл бұрын
The lack of Zebrahead has me crying into my khaki shorts
@DabbaRanx Жыл бұрын
I know you're not a fan, but to me Pennybridge Pioneers is one of the most perfect pop punk albums of all time, behind Enema, All Killer and Americana. It's definitely not my favourite Millencolin album, but objectively it's a bit of a pop-punk masterpiece
@fuzzmosisr8601 Жыл бұрын
Amen man. Crazy to have Life On A Plate represent Millencolin on the list
@karmajarrule Жыл бұрын
Penny bridge is a mega album and probably better but Life on a Plate for me is one of my favourites of all time, first half is absolutely killer stuff
@DabbaRanx Жыл бұрын
@@karmajarrule Life on a Plate and Same Old Tunes are my favourite two, but I'd classify them more in the skate-punk genre than pop-punk like Pennybridge and the few after
@KnivingDispodia Жыл бұрын
Really didn’t expect Finn to validate my undying love for MCS but I really needed a win today so Ill take it.
@anester1866 Жыл бұрын
i still listen to that New Found Glory album fairly often. i started yelling at the screen when i saw the top of the album cover.
@anester1866 Жыл бұрын
Sticks and Stones*
@QuincyKane Жыл бұрын
My favorite pop-punk album is always gonna be "Mmhmm" by Relient K; that record meant a lot to me growing up!
@rejected02 Жыл бұрын
I was called a nerd here today 😆 Finn I wholeheartedly want to see your top 50 pop punk list.
@tonyhoaglund7542 Жыл бұрын
There’d be nine albums in the top five haha
@blinkur09mom Жыл бұрын
You should do your own list and go through it. That would something most of us would be interested in watching
@josephmiller9161 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this one. More lists!
@RonyTambo4211 Жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of your input here Finn. A few albums don’t need to be on this list. I always enjoy your videos and your ‘All Killer, No Filler’ approach.
@bleachdragon88 Жыл бұрын
As a part of the 9% female audience, I swear I’ve never needed any kind of medication for mental illness and I love Alkaline Trio 😆
@oops6876 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a huge Rufio fan, but I do think that Out of Control and Little World are really great songs
@oops6876 Жыл бұрын
@digital dirtbag yeah, as a massive Enter Shikari fan, I’m well aware of his tactic of only playing super old demo quality songs and ignoring a decade or more of better material. But hey! If you liked what you heard, I’d definitely recommend the two songs I mentioned before. You might really like em! :) Out of Control has a killer chorus, in my opinion
@user-dt8rj2qg6y Жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who think their albums are getting gradually better? Perhaps, I Suppose sounds like generic skate-punk of that time. Anybody Out There is a solid record featuring different styles of music. Their debut is really overrated in my opinion, and the last one is underrated.
@scottmiller9975 Жыл бұрын
Let fate decide and drowning off TCOH are great songs.
@metallicamatty Жыл бұрын
You should do your own top 50 mate! Or at the very least a top 10/20. For mine - Life's Not Out to Get You is my favourite Pop Punk album of all time!
@jessecovey1778 Жыл бұрын
I love Finn referencing Winds of Plague so much.
@Miniduck9013 Жыл бұрын
No Forever the Sickest Kids? No Simple Plan? No Lit? No NOFX? No Bowling for Soup? I have questions lol I also feel like the actual order was awful
@Van5195 Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting seeing bands like State Champs, Knuckle Puck, and The Story So Far listed. Not because they don’t deserve it, but because when I started listening to State Champs in 2013, they were just a small band with one album that happened to come through my college town as an opening act to another band. To think that the album I had on repeat in my car in college from this unknown band would end up in discussion of “greatest pop punk albums of all time” around a decade later is just a weird feeling. I guess the next stop is showing up as the backing track to a car commercial.
@ryanm0257 Жыл бұрын
I heard Secrets being played at an nhl game I went to a few months back and it hit me on how much they’ve grown to the point that they’re being played in a big stadium now.
@ey3z4ya Жыл бұрын
Pop punk in a car commercial?
@atvena Жыл бұрын
And neck deep and the wonder years
@Kikan319 Жыл бұрын
State Champs wasn't popular in 2013? When exactly did they blow up bc I heard of them back in the spring of 2012.
@Van5195 Жыл бұрын
@@Kikan319 I guess relative to where they've ended up. Obviously they were known by some, but that doesn't mean they were popular on a larger scale. They only had like a thousand twitter followers, and I don't think they had a website, a merch store, or a Wikipedia entry for that matter. I think after The Finer Things released in 2013 they started gaining traction (that's when I found out about them), but didn't really start rolling until 2014-2015.
@squirrelhuntinrecordsyall8983 Жыл бұрын
Great video man!!
@Rightchickenwing Жыл бұрын
We definitely need to see top 50 lists from you mate 🤛🤛
@JxBx80 Жыл бұрын
I liked Insomniac more than Dookie. To me it's like how Buffalo was to Life in General for MxPx. Dookie was a major transformation for GreenDay, but Insomniac took all the good stuff from Dookie and polished it even more.
@phaaaze9984 Жыл бұрын
Insomniac is more raw, and I mean that in the best way. I dunno if I like it more than Dookie but it’s still insanely good
@Danielmcguffeyxo Жыл бұрын
Insomniac is their best, most raw and catchy material. My favorite GD album no question
@fuzzmosisr8601 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same. I think it's their best wrecord
@33.3fm4 Жыл бұрын
Insomniac was a meth fueled anthem. Hopefully MxPx made this list.
@memeteam2692 Жыл бұрын
if you think this list is bad, i once saw a ranking of green day albums with 39/smooth (their debut) number 1
@Coxy_Wrecked Жыл бұрын
I've always considered it their best album by quite a margin and was about to post a comment on why it's not on the top 50 list.🤷♂
@OkieAllDay Жыл бұрын
Take Off Your Pants and Jacket is arguably my favorite album of all time. It was the very album I ever bought and will forever hold a special place in my mind.
@jackischannelaboutnothing Жыл бұрын
You should make a list of these types of lists and rank them according to how accurate you think they are. Lol. I'd love to see that.
@dormammusubjective5774 Жыл бұрын
Nostalgia hit me hard looking at a lot of these album covers again. Not a bad list but I can't fathom a lot of these placements.. I had a friend from 15-20 years ago and we mostly related through our love of AFI (pre-December UG) but his 'other' favorite band was Alkaline Trio. He had a girlfriend who loved punk and horror punk but she wouldn't let him watch Alkaline Trio at warped tour because they had upside crosses. She was religious, I guess, but that was always strange to me. I guess I should reassess that relationship nearly 2 decades later. Maybe he should have kept that one despite the blasphemy of having to miss your favorite band when you're at the venue. One thing I'll say about Milo goes to College is it was highly influential for what would become pop-punk and even some emo aspects. But it was such a mix that you can't really call it either. Melodic hardcore, maybe? I agree with #1 and #2, but after that list, I think they were trying to play it safe at the end. Even if they were the only honest answers.
@TheRareVideosXL Жыл бұрын
Blink 182's 'Enema Of The State' should definitely be #1 and I'm glad to see Sum 41's 'All Killer No Filler' in the top 5.
@donlyphans7801 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see Does This Look Infected, because I listen to it as much as All Killer and I think they're equally great.
@atvena Жыл бұрын
@depressedbrownsfan96 what's my age again and going away to college
@amc1140 Жыл бұрын
How is it even be possible to have that many hits on 1 album? Enema of the State is S tier
@williamdean8441 Жыл бұрын
Blink 182 self titled is a masterpiece. It goes way beyond pop punk and was extremely experimental and in my opinion their peak as a band.
@bengreenbank Жыл бұрын
@@williamdean8441half the songs are shit and it’s only experimental within the extremely confined space of pop punk. It’s not in anyway experimental in the wider scope of guitar music
@frederickdelius1106 Жыл бұрын
I feel like ive been wanting this for so long that ive already sent it...ohbwell i tried. Great video fin
@guitartuba2009 Жыл бұрын
Man I just love your content
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@yeahumok Жыл бұрын
can you do a video commenting on Rolling Stone’s “Greatest Voices of All Time” ? there are some rock and metal vocalists in there and would love to hear your input on this list.
@Robert048 Жыл бұрын
Alkaline Trio Goddammit or Maybe I'll Catch Fire. God tier records in that genre in my opinion.
@takodabostwick8507 Жыл бұрын
My top 3 are Green Day's Dookie, Sum 41's All Killer No Filler and Yellowcard's Ocean Avenue! These bands are also my top 3 pop punk bands of all time!
@jbones9308 Жыл бұрын
Is it insane that The Offspring "smash" is not on this list? Sold a bazillion copies and helped bring punk to the mainstream.
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
Yes
@mikekristin7201 Жыл бұрын
I'm commenting this before watching the video. If homegrown Kings of Pop isn't in the top 10 it will continue to be one of the most underrated drive-thru records peak era pop punk albums
@Danielmcguffeyxo Жыл бұрын
You’d choose Kings over Act Your Age? Either way, it’s a crime they weren’t on this list.
@SkySplitterInk Жыл бұрын
@@Danielmcguffeyxo Act your age is the one for sure.
@OnyxSkiesXIX Жыл бұрын
What I’ve learned watching this video is that I am a pop punk hipster 😎 Ok, I didn’t learn that, I already knew that. Cause I would absolutely put Acceptance and Midtown on this list. And I would have put Based on a True Story as the Starting Line album. Also, Suburbia over Greatest Generation as the Wonder Years rep on the list? No way! I’m an elite tier hipster dammit!
@Rightchickenwing Жыл бұрын
Just had a Listen to "Attractive Today" MCS: Yeah pretty good thanks for the recommendation Finn!
@treyparker8303 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Pop Punk album will always be Now See You Inside by SR-71.
@cedricrickdelsol9767 Жыл бұрын
Turnover's Peripheral Vision should absolutely be in here. Definitely not pop punk, but neither is Brand New. So I feel like it's kind of in the same alley and Peripheral Vision is an absolute 10/10 no skips album Even more than that, I think it's the perfect example of "no skips", because it just... flows. Call me crazy, but I'd absolutely compare it to Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon in that regard. Probably in my personal Top 3 Albums of all time
@ZackSeifMusic Жыл бұрын
Homesick literally changed my music taste in the same way Hybrid Theory did and they are forever some of my all-time favorite records.
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
Same!
@matthewroberts3125 Жыл бұрын
Same also!
@stephensporman8206 Жыл бұрын
Still holds up in 2022 imo. Definitely their best record
@Hobcore Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@nathanielcava4128 Жыл бұрын
It was the first record that made me realize i enjoyed heavier music with breakdowns
@raviolibusiness Жыл бұрын
the ranking is absolutely insane
@AlligatorArms Жыл бұрын
Wow, Acceptance! I had no idea they were even pop punk adjacent; their one hit really sounded to me more like America’s answer to Keane than anything. Nice song though, and it’s cool that they got back together, which I wouldn’t have even realized if they didn’t make this list…thanks Loudwire.
@miikro Жыл бұрын
Acceptance's first 2-3 albums are peak emo/pop-punk fusion, but yeah these days they're very dance rock
@ceejluige4816 Жыл бұрын
Here is my top ten list ( in no particular order) of albums that got snubbed from this list. Any and all feedback is welcomed! Bad Religion - Stranger than fiction (for me, The Gray Race is Bad Religion's best album but Stranger Than Fiction probably had the biggest cultural impact) Nofx - Punk In Drublic (As Finn said, the definitive skate punk album. I happen to think The War on Errorism is a better album but PID is their legendary classic) Ludo - You're Awful, I love you (IDK if Finn would disagree with me on whether this album is pop punk or not, but it definitely has it's pop punk moments and for me, is one of best albums to never get a shout out, so I'm giving it one here) Diesel Boy - Cock Rock (Sofa King Cool was probably their best album, featuring an amazing cover of The Dead Milkmen's "Punk Rock Girl", but Cock Rock was their debut and likely their best known album) Lucky Boy's Confusion - Commitment (Again, IDK if the genre police would disagree with this pick, but anyone who likes pop punk should give this album a listen if they haven't, it's phenominal) Rancid - Let's Go (You could possibly argue that ...And Out Come The Wolves had a bigger cultural impact, but Let's Go is just as definitive as Punk In Drublic is) Face To Face - Self titled (If you wanted to argue that Don't Turn Away or Big Choice are better albums, I would accept that, but for me the self titled album is their best) Offspring - Smash (C'mon, do I really need to say anything?) Suicide Machines - Destruction by Definition (If Hello Rockview could make their list, than sure a shit Destruction by Definition could. Yes, there are a lot of ska overtones on this record, but at it's heart it's a fantastic skate punk album) Big Wig - Stay Asleep (Probably the best unknown Pop Punk album ever. Not too many people know of or followed this band in their heyday. If you like skate punk, give this album a listen. I promise you won't be disappointed.)
@OnyxSkiesXIX Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing whoever wrote this list would consider Rancid and Offspring punk instead of pop-punk maybe. But along with NoFX being left off it does feel off. 100% agree about Bigwig though! Extremely underrated band!
@simongunkel7457 Жыл бұрын
How could STF have a bigger cultural impact than Suffer or Generator? Suffer was the bluprint for how a lot of bands wrote songs and also was the point where Epitaph became an actual label, with NoFX the first to get signed just after Suffer came out, while Generator defined the sound of 90 Skatepunk (Mr. Bretts Studio had to move and at the new location things weren't quite finished so they used a couple of weird solutions, like using an old wardrobe as an isocab and some not so standard mic choices resulting in a very clicky bassdrum. Bands booked that studio for that sound and I count at least 3 albums in your post where guitars were recorded using the same wardrobe and the bass drum had an SM47 on the beater).
@ceejluige4816 Жыл бұрын
@@simongunkel7457 Alright, that's a well thought out and knowledgeable retort. For me and the punk kids I ran with, Stranger Than Fiction was the one that got us all hooked. That version of 21st century digital boy, incomplete, infected, and the handshake were all classic songs even then. But you make very strong points.
@ergoth154 Жыл бұрын
Bad Religion is not pop-punk, Rancid is not pop-punk and The Offspring are not pop-punk. NOFX should be on the list, Diesel Boy is honestly not good enough to make top 50, Face To Face should be on the list, Suicide Machines are great but barely can be considered pop-punk and not Top 50, Big Wig should be on the list but pretty high up like between 50-40.
@willieluncheonette5843 Жыл бұрын
Bad Religion is NOT pop punk. They are a punk/hardcore band.
@sebo1990 Жыл бұрын
Finn, I need you to make me (or all of us) a definitive Pop Punk playlist on Spotify. Please and Thank You good sir
@leam89 Жыл бұрын
Love that Rufio album. I was listening to it yesterday.
@tnnbeats9130 Жыл бұрын
hey ive been watching some of your recent videos and it would be great if you did your own top 20 list of the best pop punks album or at least a least of all the album newbies like me must listen to
@Sk84Dayz17 Жыл бұрын
Cartel is such a great band! Should be talked about more. Their album cycles was pretty good as well!
@bardknight Жыл бұрын
Chroma is peak pop rock or whatever genre they fall into.
@sweetgregt Жыл бұрын
GOATs
@Sk84Dayz17 Жыл бұрын
@@bardknight I think they’re more pop rock in my opinion but still, they are goated in my eyes
@greggjohnson6041 Жыл бұрын
How I spent my summer vacation Bouncing souls is a no skip album for me 🎉
@ciaran2252 Жыл бұрын
Yep, not a contrarian pick for me from their output. Definitely their strongest. Very little filler on there.
@sonicrichardsrb Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you make a punk rock mba video on mcs they're simply my favorite band
@captainronpants Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you said, however, I totally disagree about Rufio as a whole. Perhaps I suppose is their weakest album and their sound was different, but listen to their later stuff like Mental Games from The Comfort of Home album or songs like The Loneliest, Moonshine or Run from their final album. Really good stuff. Anyway, solid video!
@christiandean8729 Жыл бұрын
Enema of the State should be #1 IMO it’s the perfect pop punk album of all time. Front to back and never skip a song. Just a classic pop punk album. A masterpiece.
@amc1140 Жыл бұрын
Dookie is by far the most commercially successful album
@williamdean8441 Жыл бұрын
I agree but Blink 182 self titled is a masterpiece. It goes way beyond pop punk and was extremely experimental and in my opinion their peak as a band.
@11Elleve11 Жыл бұрын
#DEFENDSETYOURGOALS!!!!!! man, mutiny is an AMAZING album!!! Would agree it should be on the list, but TWBTDOU is brilliant also. Mutiny is OG so that's the winner. Super sads-ies they never released anything further 😭😭😭
@kickonthejams Жыл бұрын
Please make your version of this list Finn ! voting for Dickies and Vandals
@Grindcorpx Жыл бұрын
There is an overlapping concept with pop punk and emo where I can get some bands like the used are definitely not pot Punk and Alien Ant Farm is definitely not emo but it's like one of those graphs with the circles but everything mostly just overlaps and there's a small sliver on each side with the defining bands
@xescapexplanx4887 Жыл бұрын
Dude you 100% nailed the Alk Trio girls
@mikekristin7201 Жыл бұрын
From Chicago can confirm.
@what.if.god.doesnt.care. Жыл бұрын
"The young and the hopeless" and "The chronicles of life and death" were and are really good albums. Always liked them.
@AlligatorArms Жыл бұрын
I’d put Good Morning Revival in there too-would’ve been a very overthinking hipster contrarian pick but so is most of the list, so it’d be perfect. 3 GC records!
@bennybadfish Жыл бұрын
Joyce Manor’s self titled deserved some love imo
@andeeramone89 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add Teen Idols- Pucker Up! “20 Below” is such a great pop punk song
@GamiGreen Жыл бұрын
YES! Banger of an album from start to finish!
@Jimmy6ToesGaming Жыл бұрын
the alkaline trio take was insanely accurate
@Robert048 Жыл бұрын
As an Alkaline Trio die hard, I can confirm.
@lobesmcgee Жыл бұрын
I am a man and have a heart skull tattoo, but I do not take any psych meds lol.
@Robert048 Жыл бұрын
@@lobesmcgee Same.
@mazalblues Жыл бұрын
... so, NO the offspring album?? also, even though Rancid is by all means not a pop-punk band, I would deffinetly put "... and out comes the wolfs" as one of the top 10 best pop-punk albums, specialy seing so many "not really" pop-punks albums they put in this list.
@MrJjboyz420 Жыл бұрын
@finn You should make a top 50 pop-punk albums list.
@NottyGurlStyle Жыл бұрын
Not a white male lol African American female who love and will always love rock/metal and I love your channel and what you have to say about music. 🤘🏽 Dookie is a classic album
@NottyGurlStyle Жыл бұрын
@Mandie Shumway No..I got into rock in the 90s because I got sick of rap at the time and wanted to listen to something different…I got into Nirvana and my first boyfriend was black and he listened to rock too…I started to dress grunge and learned about other groups from him. I was into everything on my own..rock, metal, goth, ska, swing…I listened to everything. Been to a lot of rock concerts/festivals over the years during the 90s and had a blast! Down the line I went out with a white guy who was in a band but I was already a lover of rock so that didn’t make a difference. My husband is black and I still listen to rock and metal…it doesn’t bother him…he could listen to the 90s rock but hardcore metal he can’t get with lol to much screaming he says lol
@GrimmFLawless Жыл бұрын
Dookie should be #2 if you know what I mean.
@88connore Жыл бұрын
LTJ described as "pop-punk that happens to have a horns section" is so good (and I also love them/that album!)
@andrewblawson Жыл бұрын
Still though, they were one of the 3rd Wave pioneers so calling them "not ska" doesn't really make sense either.
@roberts9078 Жыл бұрын
Commit This To Memory is one of the top 3 most important albums in my life. I miss MCS.
@bdeezy2962 Жыл бұрын
Love motion city soundtrack! My aim name back in middle school was mcsgurl lol..and yes nfg sticks and stones was a banger!! Should have been top 5
@mmoses2991 Жыл бұрын
In what world is Homesick considered a pop punk album? EDIT: Mr. Highway's Thinking About the End is one of my favorite pop punk songs of all time.
@zekie106 Жыл бұрын
did you disrespect your surroundings today?
@heybrowhatup Жыл бұрын
This list was too broad and really shouldn't be that long at all. Bands like No Use For A Name, Descendents, Millencolin, Lagwagon were not "pop punk" bands. The list should really only contain Blink 182, New Found Glory, Good Charlotte and Sum 41 as the heavy hitters in the first wave from 1999-2004. Loudwire missed The Offspring who had heavy rotation on MTV's TRL in 1999 and "Americana" went 5x Platinum and belongs with the heavy hitters. Green Day rose from the ashes to join these bands and go 6x platinum with "American Idiot" in 2004. MXPX was a band trying desperately to hang with the top tier bands getting some rotation on TRL, but it didn't last long. Midtown, Something Corporate (not punk) and The Starting Line were from the Drive Thru Records era in 2002-2004 which were C tier bands. Fall Out Boy, Yellowcard and Paramore I guess were the last bands in the mid to late 2000's that were "pop punk". All American Rejects and Jimmy Eat World were not punk at all. Brand New was not "pop punk" but fit in with those C list Drive Thru bands. My Chemical Romance should make the list as people lumped them in that "pop punk" crowd in the early to mid 2000's. Less Than Jake, Screeching Weasel, The Queers and Bouncing Souls were C list bands. To conclude, this list should've been 10 bands at the very max. This list was made by a hipster who didn't live during the short lived era.
@HamiltonPike Жыл бұрын
Even MCS says they aren't Pop Punk - they just are kinda rock. Love that band and got some marigolds and forget me nots tattooed
@lululudenscheid4696 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I'm not really into Pop-Punk, so it was interesting to hear you thoughts and get to know new bands. But one thing: so Motion City Soundtrack is not Pop-Punk in your opinion...but A Day to Remember is? And Jimmy Eat World too? That sounds wrong to me. But well... like I said. I'm far away from being an expert. Thanks for the video.
@Conz101 Жыл бұрын
Why is Insomniac so underrated?
@littadnb. Жыл бұрын
Insomniac is the best green day album imo. It’s the one I still listen to 20 yrs later
@Conz101 Жыл бұрын
@@littadnb. it has no misses. i've always thought it was equally as good as Kerplunk and Dookie, but it never gets mentioned with them. Certainly better than American Idiot
@littadnb. Жыл бұрын
@@Conz101 to be honest I enjoy 1039 slappy* more than kerplunk. It’s a shame warning took so long to come out, I would have probably given it more of a chance. I still love them, and celebrate their success but everything after nimrod is meh to me.
@james160382 Жыл бұрын
@@littadnb. full agree its under-rated not even on the top 50 is insane
@here2party Жыл бұрын
“This Will Be The Death Of Us” is everything I love about pop-punk. It actually makes me sad now that modern pop-punk has lost some of that punk fury and righteousness for emo self-loathing and toxicity. I feel like the sadboy-era lost some of the anger or angst, even though it could be a bit cringe. I bring up “This Will Be The Death Of Us” because it had those two songs about their old label boss and you can just feel the genuine emotion from it. As for the list, I’d honestly write it the same way. To piss people off/get a reaction out of them. These lists are totally subjective, so why not make some major upsets?
@IAmFamousForMyCovers Жыл бұрын
I just love how this is a pop punk list and you go, this album should be here, great skate punk album. Also calling yourself the genre police.
@ericburgmeier1100 Жыл бұрын
A change of pace - Prepare the masses absolutely should be on here. Such an overlooked album and an overlooked band.
@erikracz4162 Жыл бұрын
The Alkaline Trio album defiantly deserves to be on the list! Great Album. This is why i listen to pop punk!! 🤘
@jlh_jessica Жыл бұрын
Agreed 😊
@mosquite1986 Жыл бұрын
A Pop Punk list that doesn't include The Offspring, The Ataris, Fenix Tx or Bayside is not a Pop Punk list. Also missing some absolute bangers from the peak Pop Punk era like I Am the Avalanche, Cauterize, Over It, Allister, Polar Bear Club, Punchline, Relient K, Sugarcult, Autopilot Off, Four Year Strong, Box Car Racer, The Swellers... A pretty hipster list to be honest.
@michaelmclaughlin6590 Жыл бұрын
I feel like we need to have a list from you. I have a couple of great albums that isn’t on here like ‘Pucker Up’ from Teen Idols.
@jrod1287 Жыл бұрын
Offspring is always mentioned in the same breath of Green Day when punk exploded in 94. Would they be considered pop punk? Surprised something like Smash or Americana didn’t make the list.
@beautifulryann Жыл бұрын
Love dude ranch, I'd put the self titled album first out of the blink candidates but you can't deny the impact of enema of the state
@lobesmcgee Жыл бұрын
self-titled really isn't pop punk, it's more on the Alt sound.
@james160382 Жыл бұрын
@@lobesmcgee yeah its when they started to go for a different sound and dude ranch is awesome way too much hate on here for it cause its not travis also american idiot is that really a pop punk album ??? sounds emo too me
@btson6134 Жыл бұрын
Copacetic (#38) is light-years better than anything Real Friends has ever done. I love Real Friends, just facts. Also, This Will Be the Death of Us (#37) is a masterpiece. Mutiny is also great, but it might be time for another run-through on the former. Agree with just about everything else you said.
@KunaevNS Жыл бұрын
Copacetic ❤❤❤❤
@midnighttrain7844 Жыл бұрын
god damn, I didnt expect you brought up MGK so quick this time at early stage of this video lol
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