MbL managing to not smite his own army in all that chaos is one of the most impressive AOE2 performances I've ever seen.

This is one of the more exciting games I've seen. Constant combat with actually decent sized armies- not just a quick rush.

Spirit of the Crusade here: Mangudai take a lot of upgrades, but even before DE they werent the most upgraded unit. That distinction goes to the Berber Camel archer, who gets all attack upgrades, blacksmith defense upgrades, stable upgrades, university upgrades, and thumb ring from the archery range. They dont get parthian tactics, but Mongols dont get the final archer blacksmith upgrade, so its a trade. Where Berber camel archers come out on top is that they also get a Unique tech, Maghrabi Camels, which causes them to regenerate, so Camel archers are effected by 13 upgrades (including the Elite upgrade) As of DE, Konniks take the most, requiring 15 upgrades, as they require full uprades from the stable, barracks, both armor upgrades for cav and infantry from the blacksmith, melee attack, and a unique tech from the castle EDIT - As pointed out by Michael Otis, Magyar HCA actually require 14 upgrades prior to (and also in) DE, as they are fully upgraded CA (13 upgrades) and they also get a unique tech for a total of 14

23:20 is Spirit of the Law intro

Adding black forest to hidden cup may be interesting especially for older players. It is reminiscent of those gold old days.

15:15 love how MBL goes in with the onagers, sees the castle with garrisoned units and immediately turns back

Holy nuts man, you are firing on all cylinders and not repeating yourself. You've taken your casting to yet another level. So stoked to see you succeed! ☺️

35:16 T90: "And the TING TING TING as the Pointy Bois raid." I like that line. It hit the ear just right.

“Wait was my mic muted??” That’s got to be the worst feeling ever....

Damn when I played as a kid siege units stressed me out so much lmao.

The overlay is GORGEOUS

27:57 Then the Winged Hussars arrived, and perished in flame

THE HYPE!!! Even my mother was like"what is going on??" when the winged hussars arrived

27:58 When I find some spare change in a jacket I haven't worn for a while.

I'll be dropping by on Thursday for a while, I hope. Also, awesome Sabaton reference. Someday, we need to figure out how to make a map that can fit every civ simultaneously and hold a FFA with pros playing every civ.

Champion spam actually is a potential counter to celt death ball. Yes a lot of them would die on the approach but they counter pikes well and they only cost 20 gold a piece. I think that would have made a difference here.

“Who need Fatslob now you have DauT”? Now I'm offended!

i can look at the overlay and instantly know how a game is shaping up in both a macro and micro sense. it's a good overlay.

the animation of the buildings falling is beautiful in this version

can we maybe get control groups added to the capture age, would really like to learn on that aspect of pro players!

The overlay covers too much of the screen imo. For example the area around the map could be transparent. Also the text in the command panel is unfortunately colored. The top ressource bar is very cool though, maybe add a vill icon for the vill counts on the ressources.

The ease of access for information from this new overlay is spectacular. What an amazing upgrade.

I miss the stat for how much of each resource is remaining on the map.

Looking forward to HC3 and so glad I stumbled across your channel - the last time I played AoE2 was when I had 56kbps internet speed, and played against the AI. Seeing the high level play is a mixture of nostalgia and excitement, especially since I always loved the random map generation of the game. Definitely a pick me up with how everything is. Good luck with it all!

Sabaton reference!!!! Finally!!!! That's all I can think when there's Winged Hussars on the battlefield.

this feels like it comes down to how good the Celt player is...a few micro mistakes and MbL would be so fucked, but damn he was good.

17:58 "You need defensive armor as well" - What's an offensive armor?

I think as mongols the best approach to killing the celt deathball is to go for SO yourself early and send in one or two at a time using the speed, you should always get good trades because they have clumped up SO and you only have one. Hopefully this keeps the numbers down enough that your mangudai can pick off stray halbs and your lc can engage or they will run out of gold eventually while you can still afford mangudai. I saw someone doing this against viper in a michi game ages ago.

“Who’s being killed by the Coronavirus?” * T90 at 15:58 *

Mangudai upgrades: Archer Armor x3, Archer Attack x3, Parthian Tactics, Thumb Ring, Chemistry, Ballistics, Bloodlines, Husbandry, Elite Mangudai = 13 Konnik upgrades: Cav Armor x3, Infantry Armor x3, Melee Attack x3, Bloodlines, Husbandry, Squires, Arson, Stirrups, Elite Konnik = 15

WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED, COMING SOWN THEY literaly just die

In the old version onagers fired glowing red ammo once chemistry was researched. It would make sense that was needed to burn down trees.

Farming in dark age? Villager violence? If you'd told me this was Low ELO Legends. I would have believed it for the first seven minutes til they both pulled off ideal fast castle runs within seconds of each other.

@T90 I'm only KZfaq spectator but I will show up for HC3 live.. :)

Seeing as he asked nicely: Magudai 12 techs (3050 food, 550 wood, 1850 gold) Konnik: 15 techs (3545 food, 2095 gold)

Wouldn't a counter to the Celt deathball involve a whole lot of bombard cannons and some fairly ranged unit capable of defending the cannons mixed with some trash cav to spam in the middle ?

Love watching your casting, brings back awesome memories plus I get to watch some real pro players which I have never been but you explain things so well, you're awesome T90

This was such a cool game. Awesome seeing the pros battle it out on black forest.

The top menu is on point, tho it could be made smaller too, let the game breath :)

Daut: I hear that mangudais counter siege so I'll send a lot of them to the face of siege onagers without trying to micro:D

I am stoked for hidden cup. Nice to be able to watch a live event that isn't depressing.

I like seeing mangudai destroyed. It gives me hope.

how do you realistically counter the SO halb deathball? all i can think off is 2 groups of hussars attacking from both sides in spread formation, and about 5 SO's of your own (the SO would come in after the hussar charge)

I really like your videos. I'm new and don't understand all of aoe2, so it's fun to watch commentary that is more knowledgeable about what is actually going on.

Everytime I watch an MbL game, I'm reminded of his sneeze 54 minutes into co-casting an HC3 qualifier with T90.

you forgot ballistics while listing mangudai upgrades

i watch this like i watch tv.. i come home from work tired and just watch T90 braindead... loving it :D thanx for the chillbraindead time :)

t90, i have started playing age again after ages today! been watching videos quite often and was able to 1v1 the AI on the first 3 games, going up difficulty on each! thanks! (also, damn, the pros make it looks so easy!)

I'm stuck on home, so finally can catch HC live.

Honestly, I was a bit afraid of the new CA overlay for being too big, but watching for a while, it's fine (+ the ability to remove the upgrades helped when it lost importance). Big thing is being able to see the resources and population of both players at the same time at all times, that's what I have always wanted so much. By the way, Hidden Caster Cup ? So that is why Dave is muted.. that guy takes too few breaks from that tournament, don't you think ?

Hot DANG!!! This is such an inspiring game. One of these days, I'll start playing online games and when I do, I just hope I can be even half this good.

Hey T90, just amazing work. Thank you for everything! POSITIVE CONSTRUTUCTIVE FEEDBACK ON OVERLAY:: 11. Amazing, its great. I love it! 22. Overall its uses a lot of the space. I would place gametime down by the map opposite CA/HC3 e.g. 33. I would have the res info sligthly smaller font so as not take up less space. Having said these things, its just minors things, overall its amazing! I hope you see my input. HYYYPE, see you thursday !

12:50 T90 shows why he's the beast caster with the next minute, here

At first the overlay seemed too big and too busy, but it took me about 5 minutes to get used to it, and now I love it. The stuff at the top especially is so great. Really nice job CA, thanks for making it happen t90!

On a Mongol VS Celt match up I attacked the siege onagers with speedy battering rams (thanks drilling!). It was especially easy in choke points. I flattened quite a few of them! My battering rams were getting to the siege onagers before they could get it, otherwise they would absorb the hit; anyway they were still alive when they got to the siege onagers and they crushed them. In this scenario however seeing how MbL micro'd his halbs I don't think it would have been possible...

"Looks like a game against the AI" Yeah me too, but I'm DauT.

Remember that co-cast with MbL the other day? I think we can now assume that he has learned what SO on Black Forest means.

"Ah his army is 50% halberdiers...better run directly into him with exclusively cavalry over and over and over until I lose."

17:16 "there's no DauT in my mind"

Wow, really good uploads lately, I'm looking forward to hidden Cup 3!

I watch your videos mostly on youtube, I like seeing the comments.

how can i use that overlay when im watching recorded games? Or is it just for casters? I'd be willing to pay for it =D

Awesome overlay, congrats to CA team. That's how you do a great UI with loads of info, still being easy to see and understand everything. Maybe the bottom left and mid section could be still a bit smaller in height to occupy even less vertical screen space. Only chat is missing from here but I guess it's gonna be there in HC3. Yay!

You should cast more Black Forest maps, especially 3v3 ones.

I would of liked to see more paths cut through trees for Daut and then flank the deathball with Siege Rams filled with Champions and surround him zergling style with your Drilled speed siege. When your rams go boom the Champs pop out and slaughter the Halbs and some Onagers while the Hussar/Mangudai come in to finish. When you are losing thousands of resources in 1 volley to catapults of doom, I think the expensive switch is well worth it.

Good to see the channel grow man!

T90Official is truely the Gold Standard in AoE game commenting. Awesome!

I wouldn't believe you capable of dissing black forest T90. You're the premier Black Forest commentary youtuber!

Im actually pleasently suprised, this might have been one of the coolest bf games i have ever seen. Keep it up, stay hyped for hc3

"His goal is to hold onto his gold". T90 the true mvp

This is like one of those fights from the good old days

27:21 A10 thunderbolt passing by

I think what he could have done was to combat the halbadiers with some standard archers. They don't cost gold, and put them on spread formation to cover more area. Helps against the SO's plus covers more area and allows the Mangudai to pass through. Once most of the halbs are down, charge the SO's with the Mangudai. Other than that there wasn't much that Daut could have done. MBL must be able to process a LOT of actions per second and is a MUCH better micromanager than anyone I've seen lmao

The battle when MBL opened through forest and Manugdai rushed and were lost to siege was where I think MBL got the lead.

Nice MbL impression ;) The left part of overlay needn't be that that thick, its mostly blank. Maybe the mini-map in the middle could remain same size like a camera notch on an upside down smartphone. Frankly, if CA doesn't bring in massive zoom out capabilities, just the stats is probably still worth it but maybe if you face issues with the integration, the basic overlay would do fine enough.

The new UI is a game changer man! Keep up the great work! Back to aoe2 because of you. Let's goooo HC3!

this overlay is AWESOME

Why no steppe lancers? I think that would be the way against celts siege and halbs

I'm a simple man.. Heard a Sabaton reference, liked the video!

How do you counter Mbl's siege onager and halb combo?

With Mongols Unique Tech, in the right hands Mongol SO can out micro the higher hp Celts SO. Anyone who is a BF main knows this.

I need more games like this one. It's fucking extreme!

I'd say Celts are probably 1 or 2 on Black Forest. Koreans right with them too. But I still like Goths for BF. You can spam infantry all day into their Siege and you have Hussars and Bombard Cannons as well.

I had just finished two Low ELO legends videos and started this one not realizing it also wasn't low ELO legends for about five minutes. The villagers attacking the walls within that timeframe did not help me correct my error.

machine gun onagers

Hey, is that a mod for the Upgrade UI in the top of the screen? Where do i find this? :D

Reduce size of left part of the overlay What is this "open managet/ restart overlay" part, could yiu hide it? It is a bit crowded in the right-side...

Hidden Caster Cup, now that's something I would watch.

I like the upgrade overlay - maybe just smaller icons?

Really like the overlay, props to the Capture Age team as always. My one criticism is the bottom section takes up too much screen, particularly the left hand side. I feel like below the player info is very large and could be adjusted. Looking Forward to HC3!

AWESOME and easy to read overlay.

Holy shit man...the first few minutes was intense! Lol that one dislike is probably from Daut.

He constantly engaged with the Halbs whereas I would have engaged primarily with the siege. Halbs will die against the castles and TCs anyway. Mobility was on the side of Daut anyway so shouldn't be too difficult

The overlay is great. Well done and thank you to the creator 👏

When DauT lost his first mangudais against the celtic-onager-ball, he should have spread his attacks across the map: Grab little tunnels in the forest, and raid the economy with a troopvalue of 15-20 mangudais and onagers or rams. At least at three different points. Onagers in chokepoints? Bye, when you don't have bombard canons or tributches in range.

27:18 Listen to those SOs. Brrrrrrrrr errorrrrrr

Is there a video of viper playing on BF against celts(with SO)?

Charge of the Light Brigade at 27:56

Holy shit, both of these players are insane.

Congrats on the setup for HC3 T90! Feedback on the overlay: as some people have said, it might be better to put the buttons on the sides of the minimap. Also, can you have more info than what the achievements show? I think that on many games (this one included), it would be interesting to look at amount of resources sold and bought to see who got the most out of the market.