Love vs Stroud? Purdy or Goff? Drafting the 2024 QBs w/ a 3 year timeline | The Mina Kimes Show

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@Theodoredarling
@Theodoredarling Ай бұрын
Purdy disrespect is crazy
@Phil-kq3eq
@Phil-kq3eq 17 күн бұрын
It's alright. Let the disrespect continue. All that matters is Purdy and the Niners keep winning, and hopefully, the Super Bowl.
@ZAPPED916
@ZAPPED916 11 күн бұрын
It’s insane!
@JWNimble
@JWNimble Ай бұрын
Justin Herbert going over Lamar, Burrow, and even Stroud is wild, Jordan Love over Burrow and Stroud is even MORE wild. Geno Smith over Brock Purdy, Jared Goff, and Tua is absolutely bonkers
@reesedengler1268
@reesedengler1268 Ай бұрын
Mina: I just watched your show for the first time. Were is Lenny? If your show is Featuring Lenny should we not get to see Lenny at least once during the show???
@GregMueller-oc9vc
@GregMueller-oc9vc Ай бұрын
Nate with some truly awful picks here…that Drake Maye pick was clinically insane
@coachelly86
@coachelly86 10 күн бұрын
WOW! The hate for Purdy is crazy. He is easily top 10.
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing Ай бұрын
Tua performs at a top 5 level 2 consecutive years and you’ve got him at 20, behind guys who have never taken a single snap in the NFL, and behind guys who have never played at a top 5 level. Please make that make sense.
@andrewwilliam4741
@andrewwilliam4741 Ай бұрын
I agree. Tua should be a top 10 QB. Apparently you need a rocket arm to be decent on this list. Burrow and Tua have comparable arm strength and while I would still have Burrow higher up to this point in their career it's not like this huge gap. It's mostly a media driven narrative with Tua. Watch him lead the league in yards again next year.
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing Ай бұрын
@@andrewwilliam4741 at this point I’m convinced he could actually be #1 in every statistical category and it’s gonna be used against him somehow. He led the #1 offense in the NFL in terms of passing yards and I think total yards as well, from week 1 on. The only point in the season anyone had more passing yards was during Miamis Bye week.
@stolve8847
@stolve8847 Ай бұрын
Also behind Rodgers who I would bet money will be retired before the end of the 3 year window. I think he likely retires after this year, during which he'll playing at 40 coming off an Achilles injury.
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing Ай бұрын
@@stolve8847 even if he isn’t retired, the last time anyone saw Rodger’s pass for more than 300 yards in a game was early in the 2021 season. His last season in Green Bay he was objectively worse than any year of his career since his first season as the starter and worse than Jordan Love was last season, in his first year starting, with the exact same supporting cast. Even if he is still playing, I doubt it’s just going to suddenly turn around and start looking like Aaron of 5+ years ago. And I don’t even want to hear about his MVP seasons. One of them was given to him when it should’ve went to Brady, and the other could’ve went to any of a handful of guys that were just as deserving, if not more so.
@WeBBoltnup4Lyfe760
@WeBBoltnup4Lyfe760 Ай бұрын
Bahahaha I love how delusional u Fins fans are. Do u not watch him play? He is accurate and does nothing else at an elite level. His WRs, his play caller and running game are all elite. Any QB in that system and team would flourish Tua isn't a talented QB and that's why 90% of experts don't have him top 10. Use your damn eyes and watch game film he isn't special really in any way. Sorry to be so harsh but it's just facts.
@abriaangel9986
@abriaangel9986 Ай бұрын
Justin is top 3 and he's not number 3, (but I'm biased) just based on raw talent and IQ, especially considering the shit-show he's been dealing with his entire NFL career so far. Hopefully the situation is much improved with Harbaugh at the helm.
@thathorrorguy4997
@thathorrorguy4997 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait to come back to this video after the season and laugh
@kheldaryt
@kheldaryt Ай бұрын
lol 8-16 is just a disaster… Purdy and Goff better than these… only ones that aren’t completely ridiculous are Stafford, Dak if you want to be disappointed again and if you are super high him C Williams.
@Miniath
@Miniath Ай бұрын
I truly believe that not another QB comes close to both Mahomes and Allen RN in terms of on field play. they both literally break the game every game they play.
@winthorpetrois
@winthorpetrois Ай бұрын
As opposed to off the field play?
@user-wn2uj7oe9i
@user-wn2uj7oe9i Ай бұрын
Herbert is better if we are being honest.
@deemity7557
@deemity7557 27 күн бұрын
@@user-wn2uj7oe9ithat’s delusion, not honesty. Dude puts up empty stats and that’s it😂
@segagenesis7708
@segagenesis7708 Ай бұрын
We've never even seen Lamar with a #1 WR and this was the first year we saw him in a legit NFL level passing scheme under Todd Monken. After playing in a Pro Style passing offense at Louisville, my Ravens threw him into the worst passing scheme in football, for four of his first five years. Often, with bottom 5 WR corps. In an organization, that treats the passing game like the unwanted stepchild, until they panic in a game here and there, and then wonder why it doesn't work. And he still won MVP, while having to be the team's leading rusher FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS. Something he won't have to be this year. Over the next three years, the only QB I'm taking over Lamar is Mahomes.
@crustybs46
@crustybs46 Ай бұрын
Lamar has had more draft capital spent on wrs in the first 2 rounds than any other qb since 2018. Maybe it's the qb..
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 Ай бұрын
@@crustybs46Lamar’s best receiver was 32 year Odell with 2 torn acls and a broke ankle lol. The last 2 receivers they drafted were 5’9 160 lbs come on bro
@crustybs46
@crustybs46 Ай бұрын
@@lornegreen6755 3 1st round wide recievers in his time as a raven come on is right
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 Ай бұрын
@@crustybs46 Hollywood brown, zay flowers and whose the 3rd guy some guy they drafted in the 4th rd? Hollywood is on his 3rd team, zay showed potential and again we drafted a 4th rd guy lol. You tried so I respect it.
@crustybs46
@crustybs46 Ай бұрын
@lornegreen6755 @lornegreen6755 Bateman brown and jones. 7 wide recievers in the first 4 rounds of the draft. And multiple high-end tight end draft picks including mark Andrew's lol
@3thewave
@3thewave Ай бұрын
Geno before Purdy made my stomach hurt
@craigfairbanks5875
@craigfairbanks5875 Ай бұрын
And Goff. Two Super Bowl qbs.
@kheldaryt
@kheldaryt Ай бұрын
Ya Geno over Goff is crazy. Like Purdy over Geno but not sure how anyone objectively takes Geno over Goff
@nathanchildress5596
@nathanchildress5596 11 күн бұрын
Brock Purdy has never lost to Geno Smith, including the playoffs
@OldAfrobeats
@OldAfrobeats Ай бұрын
Justin Herbert is always gets the benefit of the doubt lmao
@segagenesis7708
@segagenesis7708 Ай бұрын
It is odd. Herbert is a good QB, but he's been given quite a bit. No, he didn't have a great Game managing HC, but Herbert does seem to get the benefit of the doubt a LOT.
@OldAfrobeats
@OldAfrobeats Ай бұрын
@@segagenesis7708 Alwyas gets excuses
@shaqquackk
@shaqquackk Ай бұрын
@@OldAfrobeatsHerbert hasn’t done anything in this league. Overrated and no one wants to talk about it
@dumpsterfirefrl
@dumpsterfirefrl Ай бұрын
@@segagenesis7708dude he had Shane Steichen as OC his rookie year who has shown to be an *Elite* HC, he’s Phillip Rivers 2.0 atp
@jahitrotter4734
@jahitrotter4734 Ай бұрын
I really think it’s because a certain segment of the American population can’t get the idea that a QB is supposed to be a big strong good looking white guy out of their heads. Same thing with Trevor.
@fpsoftdev
@fpsoftdev Ай бұрын
Man I don't think there's anyone I could disagree more with than Nate Tice on QB play
@Josh-ie9cd
@Josh-ie9cd Ай бұрын
Stafford slander. Give me him over Richardson, Hurts, Trevor, and Dak.
@richardgiles5608
@richardgiles5608 Ай бұрын
How on gods earth is Trevor Lawrence that high? He as done nothing in the NFL to show he deserves to be!
@bishopsteiner7134
@bishopsteiner7134 Ай бұрын
same way Burrow is only #6..... they made their lists while drunk. Only explanation.
@marklumar2034
@marklumar2034 Ай бұрын
Because its not a power ranking its a draft so they partially projecting. Trevor is younger and arguably in a worse circumstance while burrow has major injury concerns. Not saying i agree just giving the reasoning
@richardgiles5608
@richardgiles5608 Ай бұрын
Partially projecting? He has been in the league for 3 years, we have actual evidence of his play. At this point projecting him that high is just the stubborness of someone desperately holding on to who he was in college
@marklumar2034
@marklumar2034 Ай бұрын
@richardgiles5608 hes only 22. Luka is 25 playing in his first ever finals. Jordan at 22 had no finals appearances or MVPs. Lebron made it to the finals at 22 and didnt go back until he was 27. Ant definitely has time to improve
@nathanchildress5596
@nathanchildress5596 11 күн бұрын
Trevor Lawrence holds the ball and fumbles WAY too much to be top anything
@jeremiahw1369
@jeremiahw1369 Ай бұрын
I really don't understand how Lamar is not clearly the 2nd best qb in the league based on resume. 27 years old, reigning 2x mvp who doesn't have any all pro help on offense recently. Allen had too many turnovers to be ranked ahead of Lamar. Herbert. I just don't understand what he's done to constantly be ranked ahead of Lamar. He looks good, I guess. For real other than potential and flashes, what are we looking at?
@HockeyDudeJames2
@HockeyDudeJames2 Ай бұрын
Playoffs
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
I think this year is going to add more clarity to QB rankings more than any other year in history. The credit Burrow gets for that Super Bowl berth a few years ago is starting to wear off and Josh Allen is going to have to get it done full time without Diggs. And Lamar is now in his 2nd year in a real passing scheme plus has the addition of Derrick Henry the most decorated skill player he’s ever had as a teammate offensively. This could be the year Lamar not only definitively shows he’s a top 2 QB but makes it historically embarrassing that they ever ranked ppl like Herbert ahead of him
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
@@HockeyDudeJames2 If that were remotely the case, what could possibly be justification for Herbert over Lamar? He literally has 0 playoff wins in his career and only 1 playoff appearance in his career
@HockeyDudeJames2
@HockeyDudeJames2 Ай бұрын
@@truthbearer7891 Lamar is 3 but let's not act like out of all the top QBs Herbert has been in the worst situation. Chargers are a Bottom five defence. Individually he has been nice.
@jidesigns94
@jidesigns94 13 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more with you. The Lamar disrespect is sickening at this point. He gets dropped for lack of playoff success but Allen and Hurbert don’t?? However he is the only 2x MVP not named Mahomes.
@felipeferraz4253
@felipeferraz4253 Ай бұрын
Love the pod, wish it was more than once a week
@marybennett4573
@marybennett4573 Ай бұрын
This was a fun pod!
@zac6499
@zac6499 Ай бұрын
I appreciate the Party Down reference.
@1hendrixx7
@1hendrixx7 23 күн бұрын
When ranking quarterbacks, I do not look at only elite physical intangibles and raw numbers. I look at resumes (awards/ wins/ playoff victories) and their importance to their team's success. That said, Lamar's resume alone should make him, at worst, a top 3 quarterback in this league. I understand Herbert's stats and elite physical intangibles make the media praise him. Still, as long as Mahomes is playing, the Chargers will NEVER win that division, let alone host a playoff game or get far in the playoffs with Herbert under center. Despite Lamar's playoff woes, he has a proven winner, and I'll take Lamar over Hebert because of that.
@DJ-oy3qo
@DJ-oy3qo Ай бұрын
Damn what more does Lamar have to do? Mahomes definitely, Allen I could see the argument. But HERBERT? Cut it out
@CabVideoz
@CabVideoz Ай бұрын
Just realized recent (past 10 yrs) 1.1 QBs (1st ovr pick) have been *generally* pretty good. Trevor, Kyler, Joe... the resurgence of Baker and Jared... if Bryce turns around with better help, Jameis might be the only dud of the bunch which would be a good percentage of hits on the pick considering the years prior included QBs like Tim Couch, Jamarcus Russell, David Carr and Sam Bradford which... just woof.
@Dylan_Mehl
@Dylan_Mehl Ай бұрын
Justin Herbert over Lamar Jackson is certainly a take
@Noahvon503
@Noahvon503 Ай бұрын
He is a far better passer than Lamar, and given their ages I doubt Lamar is gonna be the run threat he used to be... not to mention neither of them have won shit so that's pretty even. Especially when you consider Lamar is playing for a top 5 nfl program known for elite defense, and a top 5 nfl coach.... something Herbert never had.
@Dylan_Mehl
@Dylan_Mehl Ай бұрын
@@Noahvon503 to say neither of them ever won shit is wild. Lamar is a 2x MVP of the league, 2 playoff wins to Herbert’s 0, 3 division titles to Herbert’s 0 and wins 72% of his games. Also in this video they both went on about how Lamar is developing as a passer, assuming that continues and he’s not immobile I think it’s a big jump to take Herbert over him.
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 Ай бұрын
@@Noahvon503hmmm one guy blew a 21 pt lead in the playoffs and the other one didn’t. One guy has 2 playoff wins and the other doesn’t. One guy has 2x MVPs and the other doesn’t. Which one you taking?
@Noahvon503
@Noahvon503 Ай бұрын
@lornegreen6755 the guy that actually can stay healthy and has the better coach.
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 Ай бұрын
@@Noahvon503 I don’t wanna hear that lol. Justin Herbert always gets the benefit of the doubt . He blew a 21 pt lead in the playoffs and everybody acts like that didn’t happen, yet yall keep pushing this narrative that he better than Lamar bc he has pretty passing yards but Lamar gets the same amnt of yards. And he’s never had the offense help Herbert has had. Lamar’s best receiver was a 32 year old obj with 2 torn acls and a broke ankle
@JWNimble
@JWNimble Ай бұрын
My List: 1. Pat Mahomes 2. Josh Allen 3. Lamar Jackson 4. Joe Burrow 5. CJ Stroud 6. Justin Herbert 7. Jalen Hurts 8. Jordan Love 9. Dak Prescott 10. Caleb Williams 11. Kyler Murray 12. Trevor Lawrence 13. Brock Purdy 14. Jared Goff 15. Tua Tagovailoa 16. Anthony Richardson 17. Drake Maye 18. Matthew Stafford (age) 19. Jayden Daniels 20. Kirk Cousins 21. Aaron Rodgers (age) 22. Baker Mayfield 23. Deshaun Watson 24. Will Levis 25. Bryce Young 26. JJ McCarthy 27. Justin Fields 28. Bo Nix 29. Derek Carr 30. Geno Smith 31. Daniel Jones 32. Gardner Minshew 33. Russel Wilson
@sprcrzy110
@sprcrzy110 Ай бұрын
I'm at #8 so far and they've been positive about every QB so far. I GUARANTEE Purdy will be the first guy they have a negative slant towards.
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
Biased and defensive fans are so funny. God forbid they critique your ‘pretty good but flawed’ QB.
@sprcrzy110
@sprcrzy110 Ай бұрын
@@dillonmurphy2394 How is he flawed? How is he worse than two rookies and Trevor Lawrence?
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
@@sprcrzy110 physically pretty limited in terms of arm and size, shows up when forced to throw from crowded pockets and becomes erratic/chaotic far too often (much better than he was in college though). Overall a nice player and a good story but the Shanahan offense, specifically with that roster, makes his life 100x easier and anyone without bias can see that. Put Lawrence or whoever you have a gripe with in SF’s offense and it’s likely better. Offensive context and watching tape is paramount when looking at QBs and their production, not just looking at box scores.
@sprcrzy110
@sprcrzy110 Ай бұрын
@@dillonmurphy2394 Then why did he have a top 5 qbr when pressured?
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
@@sprcrzy110 in large part due to the offense he plays in. Overall think he’s good at scrambling and creating plays under pressure, but he has clear limitations that are insulated by the offense he plays in. Good player! not elite, and that’s fine.
@liamjohnson8950
@liamjohnson8950 Ай бұрын
Bold of Mina to pick Josh Allen after saying him being good is illogical and is doomed to fail
@philibusters23
@philibusters23 Ай бұрын
I am a Commanders fan so I biased towards Jayden Daniels (in reality I had a slight preference for Maye before the draft). That said I think people don't acknowledge how great Daniels last year was. He had a 72% completion percentage, averaged 11.7 yards per attempt, had 40 TD's v 4 interceptions, lead LSU to 45 ppg which was number 1 out of 133 teams. That is addition to running for 1134 yards on 8.1 yards per carry. By contrast none of the other 5 QB's drafted in the first round had a yards per attempt above 10 (I believe Bo Nix was the second highest) and even Joe Burrow 2019 year he averaged 10.8 ypa almost but not quite (.9) a full yard less per attempt than Daniels this past season. Jameis Winston had a year in college at 10.6 but I am not aware of any other QB taken early in the draft being above 11 ypa. So in addition to the running, Daniels had a breakout passing year. Now I know things won't translate that smoothly to the NFL, but I do think people are underplaying the season Daniels had last year.
@dubaidaddy13
@dubaidaddy13 Ай бұрын
The Covenant of Water is the best I’ve read recently. My kids are adopted from India, so it’s a deep look inside the culture.
@RavenTD46
@RavenTD46 Ай бұрын
I haven't seen Yahoo online since I was on AOL.
@fy4b230
@fy4b230 Ай бұрын
Herbert and Love over Burrow? Woof. Tiers for me atm are Mahommes Lamar Burrow Allen Those 3 are interchangeable. AEveryone below those 4 are debatable. Then once you get to 12 just throw a dart and hope for a breakout season.
@crustybs46
@crustybs46 Ай бұрын
Burrow is the most overrated qb in the league.
@fy4b230
@fy4b230 Ай бұрын
@@crustybs46 I’d say Herbert is. Burrow can deal. Seen him in person every time they come to Baltimore. He has had crazy good weapons since his first full season (2nd year). However his Oline has been one of the worst year in and year out. I dont think he’s the 2nd best QB in the league, that would be overrated in my eyes, but like I said he’s somewhere in the top 5, when healthy. When you look at burrow, Lamar and Allen their notable achievements are… Burrow - got to the SB, winning record against Mahommes Lamar - 2 time MVP, 2 #1 seeds Allen - can beat everyone except Mahommes when it matters, although it’s been close af. I think Allen and Lamar are clear 2-3 (doesn’t matter which number it’s so close) in the league and burrow is 4.
@user-wb5jw8df3t
@user-wb5jw8df3t Ай бұрын
Truth. These three are the clear best after Mahomes and any team would be happy to get one of them over the other 28 starting QBs.
@dodu8281
@dodu8281 Ай бұрын
im a pack fan and joe burrow is my favorite qb, but id go Stroud. younger, big, no injury history. he had a marino rookie season. after mahomes and allen, he is the next guy for me.
@chopin1975-tq3gx
@chopin1975-tq3gx Ай бұрын
dude... nobody respects lamar except for "tv personalities" and ravens fans. the guy cant win a game in the playoffs and nobody fears him from the pocket
@stolve8847
@stolve8847 Ай бұрын
There's a lot on this list, but putting Rodgers above Tua or Mayfield on a 3 year TIMELINE is just ridiculous. Why not put Brady over him as well like the the Ringer does. This obviously just devolved into the "how much do I like the QBs career high lights draft." 50/50 Rodgers even plays 17 more career games. Love is laughable high from "new hotness" bonus. Lawrence high for seemingly no reason. Drake Maye at 13 is ridiculous. Geno kinda high too, but that's at least defensible. Caleb kinda high for a rookie IMO, but also defensible. Richardson is at 11 is a degenerate gambler's pick.
@reesedengler1268
@reesedengler1268 Ай бұрын
Mina: SHOW US LENNY! Have him jump up on your lap at least once during the show.
@jamaalsmith678
@jamaalsmith678 Ай бұрын
List me at saying Josh Allen is more explosive than the dude they wanted to play WR out of college.
@user-xy8ep2qk7v
@user-xy8ep2qk7v Ай бұрын
Wow. Watson has really fallen from a top tier QB to the bottom tier. There is still a chance at a come back for him but at this point he may be one of the biggest busts of an established player I can think of especially factoring in what the Browns gave up for him, the contract they gave him, and the money they are still on the hook for.
@Jaywrites23
@Jaywrites23 Ай бұрын
Nate… what is this brother
@vanessamassie9836
@vanessamassie9836 Ай бұрын
Don’t hate on the Trevor goof!!! That’s why we love him!! (Except the fumbles 😭💔) love you Mina!
@nathanchildress5596
@nathanchildress5596 11 күн бұрын
Please, Trevor Lawrence is the most overrated player right now. He needs 5+ seconds to look down field and his 60 turnovers in 3 years are inexcusable. His hair is lovely, so I’ll grant you that.
@user-wb5jw8df3t
@user-wb5jw8df3t Ай бұрын
Having Herbert ahead of either Burrow, Love Jackson, or Stroud is ridiculous. Dude has a big arm but has come up small way too many times to be ranked ahead of guys who have actually won playoff games. Don't care how bad the Chargers defence is, part of the reason why Allen gets so much love is because the Bills D stunk in their losses to the Chiefs but he stilled balled out, that just means he needed to at least show something in a shootout loss. Blowing a huge lead to the Jaguars, whose defence was very average at best, say a lot about Herbert's ability to carry a team.
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
Judging a guy off one game is idiotic. Go watch that Raiders game with his multiple 4th and long conversions with the season on the line in 2021 and talk about him “not carrying” their team. Love Joe but peoples opinion of Burrow is inflated due to the Super Bowl run, which was as much in part due to their defense than anything.
@shaqquackk
@shaqquackk Ай бұрын
@@dillonmurphy2394 notice how your argument dates back to 2021. Hasn’t done anything since his rookie year.
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
@@shaqquackk his rookie year was 2020. Was elite in 2020 and 2021, very good in 2022 despite broken ribs and was hurt most of last year. Stupid take.
@shaqquackk
@shaqquackk Ай бұрын
@@dillonmurphy2394 very good right, playoff wins? Yea that’s what I thought. Good in the regular season. Absolute sh*t when it matters
@alrightfolks7459
@alrightfolks7459 Ай бұрын
​people still trying to argue QB wins can be easily and safely ignored.
@matteagan1288
@matteagan1288 Ай бұрын
We can’t keep putting Herbert that high until he proves it .
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
Proves what lmfao. He had the best rookie season ever by a QB and then had 40 TDs and 5000 yards in his 2nd season while being hurt the last two while still performing well. Top 3 arm in the league, elite pocket presence and processing with good accuracy and decision making. Easy top 5 guy to anyone who watches QBs on a remotely regular basis.
@shaqquackk
@shaqquackk Ай бұрын
@@dillonmurphy2394 top 5? Can I have whatever you’re smoking? Hasn’t done anything since his rookie year. He’s top 15. At best
@matteagan1288
@matteagan1288 Ай бұрын
Proves he can win meaningful games . This isn’t fantasy football
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
@@matteagan1288 that’s a very dumb way of looking at it, IMO. “Meaningful” games doesn’t mean anything substantive and it’s only what YOU decide is meaningful (aka the single playoff game we’ve seen him in), so it’s always going to line up with your belief. Watch 10 minutes of Herbert tape and maybe you’ll get it!
@dillonmurphy2394
@dillonmurphy2394 Ай бұрын
@@shaqquackk did you miss the part of my comment where the very next year he threw for 5000 yards and 40 TDs? And has largely been good the last two years but dealt with like 3 different injuries, including playing through broken ribs for 80% of 2022.
@winthorpetrois
@winthorpetrois Ай бұрын
I know that drafts don't work like this, but I would go in the opposite direction and finish with #1. I'm done after #10. I don’t care about the rest.
@user-ui3db2rz9w
@user-ui3db2rz9w Ай бұрын
Top 3 consensus should be Mahomes, Allen, Burrow till proven otherwise and you’re sleeping hard on Stafford.
@MMWoodworking
@MMWoodworking Ай бұрын
Joe Burrow is going to love hearing this guy take the 7 game sample size QB over him. The disrespect whiteboard material is getting another piece added.
@user-wn2uj7oe9i
@user-wn2uj7oe9i Ай бұрын
Top 3 is easy. Herbert, Allen and Mahomes. There is no debate for anyone else. Put all QBs on the same team in the same situation, these are easily the 3 best and Herbert is likely 1.
@bukithegreat
@bukithegreat Ай бұрын
ranking in a vacuum but Herbert’s placement at 3 is a lot about his situation
@johnthrasher8146
@johnthrasher8146 Ай бұрын
Picking Goff at 18 is insane. It's always the coach, the system, the stars and their alignments for the reason Goff's teams and their offenses perform at such a high level. Brock Purdy now gets to wear part of that mantle. Sad, and lazy. Josh Allen gets mucho credit for his low sack percentage in 2023. Active NFL QBS with the lowest sack percentages are #1. Patrick Mahomes #2. Jared Goff. Goff gets no credit, it's always those great lines, never his ability to read defenses and always know where to go. This appears simply to be click bait. You win.
@sprcrzy110
@sprcrzy110 Ай бұрын
I'm sure two Seattle fans won't underrate Purdy 🙄
@winthorpetrois
@winthorpetrois Ай бұрын
Mina praises the Rams and Niners to no end to overcompensate for her fandom.
@reubenclay4379
@reubenclay4379 Ай бұрын
nate is not a seattle fan
@sprcrzy110
@sprcrzy110 Ай бұрын
@@reubenclay4379 What team does he root for?
@reubenclay4379
@reubenclay4379 Ай бұрын
@@sprcrzy110 none. He was a Vikings fan as a child, but after the way they fired his dad, he just became a good football fan. He is a Timberwolves and Mariners fan though.
@sprcrzy110
@sprcrzy110 Ай бұрын
@@reubenclay4379 I didn't know that. I assumed he was a Seahawks fan because he's wearing a Seattle sweatshirt.
@fjames72
@fjames72 Ай бұрын
The lack of Purdy respect continues on. 17th????? Well he will be back NFC championship again but of course he has nothing to do with it.
@skoden3000
@skoden3000 Ай бұрын
Go Cards! 😎
@snuffles7314
@snuffles7314 2 күн бұрын
The Burrow disrespect is crazy. I’d take him over anyone not named Mahomes.
@dylanzipperer7103
@dylanzipperer7103 Ай бұрын
Love the vid, but I will say yall were a lil high on some unproven or inconsistent guys. I believe in my man JD5 #httc and ill say mina, watch out for Sam Howell, because my gut feeling tells me he'll have taken Ginos job going into next year. (And I love gino and have since college, but Sam had that IT and i think he'll show it to the 12s)
@TeacePeace14
@TeacePeace14 Ай бұрын
I’m new here. Would love to see Lenny!
@dumpsterfirefrl
@dumpsterfirefrl Ай бұрын
No wonder the Athletic canned his ass
@Sportsguy0258
@Sportsguy0258 Ай бұрын
Lamar is going to be better than Herbert the next 3 years again. They’re going to have a draft and say Lamar won 3MVPS but you know Herbert he has blonde hair.
@user-wn2uj7oe9i
@user-wn2uj7oe9i Ай бұрын
Lamar has never been better. What does he do better outside running 😂😂
@HockeyDudeJames2
@HockeyDudeJames2 Ай бұрын
Lamar has been in a way better situation
@jrmiami4035
@jrmiami4035 Ай бұрын
What did Anthony Richardson do last season besides get hurt
@jj9487
@jj9487 14 күн бұрын
Why is Lamar on here? He’s a RB
@punisher5598
@punisher5598 Ай бұрын
Love ahead of Burrow and Stroud? What are we doing here?
@Davo2times
@Davo2times Ай бұрын
caleb at 14 is kinda crazy. if we are projecting with Richardson, Maye, Trevor, how can we not project top 5-10 qb play from caleb in the next 3 years
@jaehong1029
@jaehong1029 27 күн бұрын
he plays for the Bears is why
@alanpinkney4187
@alanpinkney4187 Ай бұрын
This guy putting Justin at 3 lmao he definitely doesn't know ball
@adamletschin2509
@adamletschin2509 Ай бұрын
He knows more ball than both of us put together but his take here is questionable
@zackroberts9689
@zackroberts9689 Ай бұрын
Mina is like my dream girl
@jerrycarapia6242
@jerrycarapia6242 Ай бұрын
I think she's 🔥
@adamletschin2509
@adamletschin2509 Ай бұрын
Herbert ahead of Lamar is absurd. I respect Tice but that dude has had a ton of weapons and continually underperforms..
@brando8888888888
@brando8888888888 Ай бұрын
His weapons were never healthy and had arguably the worst HC in the league for years.
@mac9108
@mac9108 Ай бұрын
It's Herbert All day if you're drafting every other than rushing there's nothing physically Herbert can't do better than Lamar nd even he isn't a statue he's got some wheels on him too
@saychicity5409
@saychicity5409 Ай бұрын
I know health is an issue, but I’m taking Joe Burrow over Justin Herbert and Jordan regardless, every single time
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
Russell Wilson ranked 29th behind Daniel Jones? NO QB in history has been buried by the media and analysts more than Russell Wilson for one bad year where he was injured and it was deliberately underreported with one of the worst coaches ever. The bar is being set so low for him that even if he performs as a league average let alone above average QB he's going to make so many respectable analysts look foolish. Honestly I dont even think ppl can afford for him to play well because of how crazy ppl will look historically when you see how much of an outlier the 2022 season was statistically.
@amb9541
@amb9541 Ай бұрын
Dude said Drake Maye. I'm out on the rest of the video 🤦🏽
@kingroyalty9621
@kingroyalty9621 Ай бұрын
Herbert is NOT even a top 10 QB if we being honest !
@wardog211
@wardog211 Ай бұрын
McCarthy way too low for me but I think people have the wrong idea of what he is and he’ll show that in his rookie year. Reps were very limited so people think he’s like Purdy but I think the ceiling is more like Dak Prescott. In the Vikings situation he should be better than Purdy from the get go in year 1. If he had another year in college in an offense that threw the ball you’d probably see that. But that type of season should come about in his rookie year so yeah. Willing to bet he’ll be in the top 15 of this next year.
@wardog211
@wardog211 Ай бұрын
And I get the apprehension but having him below Levis/Fields/Baker is funny to me because in three years I don’t think those guys will even be starting QBs. And in 3 years he’ll be younger than all of those guys are right now. In 3 years I’d be willing to bet most people will have McCarthy in their preseason on top 8-12 range. But for now I suppose I’ll be the only one bullish on the kid.
@quillogist2875
@quillogist2875 Ай бұрын
He will be better than the most efficient qb in football in his first year? I don't think so.
@DavidWKimber
@DavidWKimber Ай бұрын
Love Mina, but this list... hahahahahah
@kingroyalty9621
@kingroyalty9621 Ай бұрын
This was embarrassing to watch
@akaniners
@akaniners 8 күн бұрын
Purdy keeps getting disrespected.
@bankslaw8900
@bankslaw8900 Ай бұрын
Lamar just not Quarterbacky enough for these people. How is a 2x MVP 2x All Pro and 6x pro bowler who lead the league in NFL TD passes, more perfect passer games than anyone in the league be behind guys who haven’t done none of that.
@kendallsmith2212
@kendallsmith2212 Ай бұрын
This list SUCKS MINA
@kheldaryt
@kheldaryt Ай бұрын
Lot of flaws
@tech25t
@tech25t 9 күн бұрын
Richardson that high?! He hasn’t done anything in pros or college. At least have him finish a season before you rate him so high.
@fireballer7749
@fireballer7749 Ай бұрын
The Tua disrespect is really unreal, y’all will see
@taylormcc
@taylormcc Ай бұрын
Kimes has the worst girl handwriting I've ever seen
@mantistoboggan5650
@mantistoboggan5650 Ай бұрын
How is dak #8
@aaronpeterson3337
@aaronpeterson3337 Ай бұрын
We miss Lenny
@josephacosta335
@josephacosta335 Ай бұрын
Picking herbert over Jackson? What the actual fuck is that?
@SeanMiracle
@SeanMiracle Ай бұрын
I've lost a considerable amount of respect for Mina after viewing this. This list is an abomination!
@kevingrams3809
@kevingrams3809 Ай бұрын
Nate has the most mids takes
@Homebuyingtips
@Homebuyingtips Ай бұрын
Maye going 11 AND over JD and Caleb is wild. I’ve noticed the nerds seem to like Maye over the other 2 since they don’t have to actually coach him up and can just assume the best case scenario.
@jullicent
@jullicent Ай бұрын
Herbert > Lamar has to be an illegal take in the year of our lord 2024 lmao.
@jdajayi92
@jdajayi92 15 күн бұрын
hahahah Herbert had one good game against the Vikings in Week 3 and that's enough to put him over Lamar, Burrow, CJ and Love? WHAT THE HECK type of stupidity is this?
@markkostecki4558
@markkostecki4558 Ай бұрын
Burrow is 2 for me. Only person capable of beating the chiefs
@kev792
@kev792 Ай бұрын
Because of his defense. His playoff stats are kinda mid
@adamletschin2509
@adamletschin2509 Ай бұрын
You do realize that teams beat other teams right? Burrows run to the Super Bowl was mostly because of clutch defensive play
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 Ай бұрын
Jeff fisher and Joe burrow get so much credit for going to the Super Bowl and LOSING…..I wonder why
@SoLogy
@SoLogy Ай бұрын
If that's the criteria, Goff should be number 2.
@SamuelBrylski
@SamuelBrylski Ай бұрын
Love beat the Chiefs.
@RandomCLR
@RandomCLR Ай бұрын
Guys like this in the media is the reason why Justin Herbert may be the most overrated QB in recent history makes no sense Kyler Murray gets the Trae Young short guy super star treatment Herbert has done much less winning than Kyler while Herbert had the much better team around him it’s ridiculous how overrated Herbert is🤣🤣🤣
@miamivicethrice
@miamivicethrice Ай бұрын
This was awful, Mina
@ZAPPED916
@ZAPPED916 11 күн бұрын
The Purdy hate continues…
@andrewfung9340
@andrewfung9340 Ай бұрын
Matt Stafford is so underrated
@Theodoredarling
@Theodoredarling Ай бұрын
Richardson at 11? This isn’t fantasy football is it?
@kheldaryt
@kheldaryt Ай бұрын
Ya crazy
@osiriskid77777
@osiriskid77777 Ай бұрын
I think you two are underrating Joe Burrow substantially
@Adam-xe5xm
@Adam-xe5xm Ай бұрын
his injury record is his biggest concern, and its a significant one. Hes missed so much time
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 Ай бұрын
Allen had top defenses for years, plus an actual pass scheme + WR1 and still hasn't made a Super Bowl. He also played backup QBs to inflate his playoff record. Bills missed their best window. Lamar led the Ravens to the 1 seed from the hardest division, and beat a bunch of playoff teams with a 1st year OC and without Andrews. Putting Jordan Love over both Burrow & Stroud is nuts, Nate doesn't know his stuff at all.
@jasoneng3161
@jasoneng3161 Ай бұрын
Jordan love has some insane tape, it’s fine to say you disagree with him, but saying he doesn’t know his stuff is disrespectful. Just because you don’t share his opinions doesn’t mean you should just discredit him.
@zacharyking6596
@zacharyking6596 Ай бұрын
Allen’s defense gives up 32 points per game in the playoffs. He’s statistically the best QB in the post season the last 4 years besides Mahomes. His WR1 hasn’t had 100 yards in a post season game since 2020. And QB’s don’t face QB’s guy they face defenses which he’s obliterated outside of the Bengals which also Mahomes struggles against
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 Ай бұрын
@@jasoneng3161 I like Love. He was good in '23. But it's way too early to rank him that high.
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 Ай бұрын
@@zacharyking6596 Allen's still played very well regardless of who the QB is, but when it comes to winning a playoff game your opponent matters a lot. You win games by outscoring the other team, playing backup QBs is undeniably a massive advantage in playoffs wins. Agreed the Bills defense has sucked in playoffs vs KC, but he's still had great defenses for a while to get to playoffs. Bills didn't coast to playoffs from the defense, Allen's a huge reason they win, but it did help. Allen's defense also allows 24.8ppg in playoffs, not 32. 25 isn't even that bad, esp vs playoff teams, esp considering they played Mahomes 3 times. Bills defense wasn't even bad in a lot of their playoff games- 3/10 they held to under 20. 7/10 they held under 30. Only reason Allen's defense allows 24.8ppg in playoffs is cuz they played KC 3 times, factor them out & Allen's defense has allowed only 20.1ppg in playoffs. That's not bad at all, it's actually pretty good. --2019 Bills D shut the Texans out an entire half while the Bills offense only scored 6 (from 2 FGs) the whole 2nd half and only had 1 TD the whole game. That L is on the offense, 13 of their 19 points came from the kicker. --2020 the Bills held the Colts to 10 points in 3 Qs combined. Bills win. --2021 the Bills held the Patriots to 17. Bills win. --2022 Allen was great vs Miami. --2022 loss to Cinci was on the offense for only scoring 10 points. Bills moved the ball but couldn't score. They had 3 points the whole 2nd half. Bills defense didn't lose them this game, the offense just sucked. --2023 Bills held the Steelers to 17. Bills win. Bills lost '21 cuz they got screwed by the coin toss. Defense sucked vs the Chiefs, but that's only 3/10 games & it's still hard to blame them for losing to Mahomes cuz everyone does. I hated seeing them lose to KC in '21, Allen was incredible and was keeping up with Mahomes in 1 of the best games I've ever seen. NFL changed the OT rules cuz they knew the coin toss fucked the Bills unfairly. Allen should be ranked really high, he's phenomenal. Esp in playoffs.
@zacharyking6596
@zacharyking6596 Ай бұрын
@@anthonysclafani3963 I thank you for being logical. I’ll say you’re not adding context 2019 we all know Allen wasn’t good in that game, but the Bills offense tied that game up late and the defense gave up a game winning FG drive in OT 2020, the Colts in the 4th quarter were on fire and almost came back and won that game because the defense let them back in and because Rivers didn’t have the arm strength it didn’t get there on the Hail Mary. The defense won them the Ravens game with a pick six. The Bills whole team got outclassed and outcoached by the Chiefs in that AFC title game 2021, the Bills and Allen had the only perfect offensive game in NFL post season history against the number 2 defense that year against the Pats. Then the amazing stride for stride game with Mahomes that ended cause Allen didn’t get the ball in OT 2022, Allen was amazing against the Dolphins a team he historically is great against. The whole team was bad against the Bengals but to only blame the offense is half the story, the Bengals oline had backups and the Bills starters couldn’t sniff Burrow who get sacked A LOT. 2023, Allen was great against the Steelers and yes so was the defense against an offense that really only ran the ball so they were limited but the offense beat up on that good defense. And he was once again great against the Chiefs who were the number 1 defense that year but his defense couldn’t stop a napkin in the breeze that game and so they lost by 3 which the offense is the only reason that game was close and 1 defensive play where Hardman fumbled
@Theodoredarling
@Theodoredarling Ай бұрын
This list is awful
@JH-lb3kc
@JH-lb3kc Ай бұрын
Waiting for the angry Niner fans 🍿😂.
@rogerrubio9540
@rogerrubio9540 Ай бұрын
49er fan here, not angry, just perplexed at Drake May, Herbert, those dudes being so high. Less about the purdy stuff, I'm used to it by now lol. But the rest of this list, idk.
@kingroyalty9621
@kingroyalty9621 Ай бұрын
Herbert 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@c.bishop8004
@c.bishop8004 Ай бұрын
The routine disrespect and hate on Lamar is CRAZY 😒 👎
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
He will be properly rated after MVP #3 and Ring #1
@jacobkerber219
@jacobkerber219 Ай бұрын
Goff is a bettet qb than at least 10 of the guys listed above him. His arm strength is great, his football iq is one of the best in the NFL, and he has insane accuracy. Being a running/scrambling qb doesn't automaically make a player top 10
@socks7773
@socks7773 Ай бұрын
I understand Kirk because he’s older but Purdy not even top half is crazy to me
@kingroyalty9621
@kingroyalty9621 Ай бұрын
When I heard Herbert I literally bust out laughing …The Great White Hope 😂😂😂
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing Ай бұрын
Minus the great and the hope.
@chopin1975-tq3gx
@chopin1975-tq3gx Ай бұрын
cant really be the great white hope when the majority of quarterbacks are white
@kevingrams3809
@kevingrams3809 Ай бұрын
Herbert is not a dawg. Can’t be a top three qb well isn’t a dawg
@myzticaznfool
@myzticaznfool Ай бұрын
I don't think people actually watch enough Chargers game to give an honest opinion on Herbert. His Chargers scored the most points over like a 3 years span but also had the worst scoring defense in history over that same period with no run game and a HC that was giving games away with bad game management. IDK maybe he should've scored less so the opposing team won't have as many procession to scorch his defense. How can you not give him a benefit of a doubt when he makes every throw, great in pocket, and have low turnover worthy plays. I definitely won't put Love over Burrow though.
@bishopsteiner7134
@bishopsteiner7134 Ай бұрын
Mad disrespect to Burrow on this... makes no damn sense. Don't recall seeing Herbert, Lamar, Love, Allen in a Super Bowl yet. Or even a winning record vs the Chiefs. Gotta call bullshit. Also CJ Stroud has already done more than Love and Herbert combined.
@stephena11
@stephena11 Ай бұрын
By that logic Goff is better than Herbert Lamar Allen & Love since he made a super bowl…. Lamar also has 2 MVP’s (one being unanimous) Burrow has 0 sooo
@Noahvon503
@Noahvon503 Ай бұрын
Lol he got to a super bowl 3 years ago and lost...
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 Ай бұрын
Joe burrow is the only person besides Jeff fisher who gets more credit for going to the SB and LOSING lol. Playoff records mean NOTHING if you don’t have a ring.
@segagenesis7708
@segagenesis7708 Ай бұрын
We’ve also never seen Burrow without some form of Chase and/or Higgins.
@Adam-xe5xm
@Adam-xe5xm Ай бұрын
Love and Stroud had almost identical playoff runs. Thought Stroud was more consistent but Love's highs were on a different level.
@raffitouloumdjian9180
@raffitouloumdjian9180 Ай бұрын
Herbert at 3? Are we living in a twilight zone? Wtf lol
@bensymington6617
@bensymington6617 Ай бұрын
Injuries rat birds quarter back 2 years gave up n November 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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