Quote from David Pawson "Salvation can be explained by using three verbal tenses; The moment you repent and believe upon Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you are saved from the penalty of sin. After that, you enter a process of sanctification where you are being saved from the power of sin. When you get to heaven, you will be saved from the presence of sin. When you get to heaven, you are OSAS.
@curtsmith2338 Жыл бұрын
Praise be to G-d!!! His love and faithfulness are simply awesome. We christians can and do mess up sometimes, but as Baruch said, it truly grieves us, and we are so sorry to have disappointed our L-rd. And we seek His forgiveness, and stop doing that which is wrong. For my creator to love and forgive me is so humbling, and I want to do my very best to please and follow Him. Thanks Baruch and Christian for sharing these scripture verses with us. It is so great to hear them again and again. Getting G-d's word ingrained in our minds, drives out the doubt satan tries to get us to believe. May the L-rd bless you and the Love Israel teams.
@Counselangel13 Жыл бұрын
“I know in whom I have believed and He is able to keep that which I have committed!” This has saved me from a lot of pain!
@Counselangel13 Жыл бұрын
I love being able to see these lessons several times because G-d reveals many different things! Thanks to Christian and Dr Baruch for teaching us! Most of all for their Love of the Scriptures and Us too!
@djshaneb123 Жыл бұрын
Most excellent teaching! I request a Part 2 with more scripture. Much love and many blessings always!
@christianbarrionuevo Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Yes there is Part 2 coming soon. Blessings
@Kathleen253Ай бұрын
@@christianbarrionuevothank you for that clarification Christian.
@cassandra816_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you Christian and Dr Baruch for this lesson! Love seeing you two together, may God bless you all 🥹🫶🏻💕
@hansarildtangeraas237 Жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion regarding the understanding of Revelation 3,15-16. About being cold or warm. The whole book was written to congregations around the Taurus Mountains in Turkey. In the area were cool, refreshing streams of water coming down from the mountain, could quench your thirst. In another area there were hot springs that they used for healing. In other words both hot and cold were good. There was also a place where the hot and cold water mixed, and became luke warm. If you tried to drink it, you had to spit it out, it was simply useless, due to minerals. People around Taurus would have understood a language like that.
@kilabergdorf4772 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this teaching. I do not believe one can “lose” their salvation, however I find in scripture that people can “walk away” from it. Paul speaks of Delmas loving this present world and walking away from him and his teachings. Judas walked away from Jesus betrayed him and was obviously a believer along with the other 11 disciples. Luke 8:13 speaks of those who receive the word with joy but have no root, “which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.” Please speak to this. Thank you very much. I follow Baruch and your teachings.
@Kathleen253Ай бұрын
Such teaching is so much needed for today. May God bless you both.
@peggiunderwood9519 Жыл бұрын
God Bless you both for your ministries. I love how you come together to help us to advance in our walk/maturity in Messiah Yeshua. I'm no longer on milk and am eating meat. Praise God!
@marisolrodriguez215 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Thank you Abba Father in Messiah Yeshua.
@deangiannis4467 Жыл бұрын
Blessings brother Christian and Dr Baruch. Thank you for explaining such an important message regarding being saved, you are both such a blessing to many people around the world. Shalom and blessings from Milan Italy.
@jul19080 Жыл бұрын
Excellent thank you both of you.God Bless You
@sreyMP29 күн бұрын
Thank you for explaining to us 🙏🏽
@robertaamin3270 Жыл бұрын
Shalom Christian and Dr Baruch thank you for the teaching today always look forward to your teachings
@widepluto1 Жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord!! An analogy I like to share…. If you ever dabbled into photography you may have noticed many fillers are used (they are put in front of the lens). When you photograph a red stain it’s red. Photograph it with a red filter on your lens and what happens? It disappears. That is how God sees us through the holy and righteousness blood of Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
@michellegower1259 Жыл бұрын
Sadly my friend lost her faith about 5 years ago. I saw her be baptised a year before that. We've had many discussions since but she said she never really felt anything. She just went along with it in church. Yet her testimonial at her baptism was that once she almost died of an accidental overdose. She had a vision of Christ reaching down to her saying Its not your time, and picking her up off the bathroom floor. Where she woke up. I continue to pray for her but she is so certain our faith is about control by the church n she now believes the Universe is god. I have some hope as although she gave me all her crosses n other Christian books, she couldn't part with her Bible!!!
@minkymandy6065 Жыл бұрын
I too went through a wilderness where I had 'lost my faith'. But 4 years later the LORD brought me back quite dramatically when I wasn't even looking for Him - in fact I had my hands firmly over my ears. So it was all His doing, not mine! So keep on praying for your friend. God is faithful.
@michellegower1259 Жыл бұрын
@@minkymandy6065 Thank you. Welcome back.
@Kathleen253Ай бұрын
@@minkymandy6065amen
@kathyjames9250 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to both of you very much for this. It is really heart-warming to receive this assurance.
@CarlosPerdomo Жыл бұрын
From Minute 18:44 , this is precisely, I think, what these discussions miss. The "saved always saved" is a doctrine invented by St Augustine and then taken and promoted by Calvin. The question is: did the Apostles promote this doctrine? or were they always warning believers otherwise. The answer is that the Apostles were always warning the body of Messiah about persevering in order to "make it" to the end. Some, not all, but some of the Biblical references that were presented showed the case for losing one's salvation. The explanations weren't strong enough to convince otherwise. But there are more Scripture references that support what the church from the first century thought: Revelation 2: To the angel of the Messianic Community in Ephesus,... ...5 Therefore, remember where you were before you fell, turn from this sin, and do what you used to do before. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your menorah from its place - if you don’t turn from your sin! 8 “To the angel of the Messianic Community in Smyrna, write: ...Remain faithful, even to the point of death; and I will give you life as your crown. 11 Those who have ears, let them hear what the Spirit is saying to the Messianic communities. He who wins the victory will not be hurt at all by the second death.”’ 12 “To the angel of the Messianic Community in Pergamum, write: You did not deny trusting me even at the time when my faithful witness Antipas was put to death in your town, there where the Adversary lives. 14 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you:... ...16 Therefore, turn from these sins. Otherwise, I will come to you very soon and make war against them with the sword of my mouth. Revelation 3: “To the angel of the Messianic Community in Sardis, write:... ...you have a reputation for being alive, but in fact you are dead! 2 Wake up, and strengthen what remains, before it dies too!... ...3 So remember what you received and heard, and obey it, and turn from your sin! For if you don’t wake up, I will come like a thief; and you don’t know at what moment I will come upon you. ... 5 He who wins the victory will, like them, be dressed in white clothing; and I will not blot his name out of the Book of Life; in fact, I will acknowledge him individually before my Father and before his angels. 6 Those who have ears, let them hear what the Spirit is saying to the Messianic communities.”’ I could go on and on... but I've learned that when it comes to these theological discussions, it is only by revelation from the Holy Spirit that people would wake up. Do I believe that Yeshua can sustain me and that nothing could separate me from Him? absolutely, because He is faithful. One more interesting thing to see what Yeshua said in Revelation, are these warnings: - To him winning the victory I will give the right to eat from the Tree of Life - Remain faithful, even to the point of death; and I will give you life as your crown. - To him winning the victory I will give some of the hidden man. I will also give him a white stone, on which is written a new name that nobody knows except the one receiving it.” - 26 To him who wins the victory and does what I want until the goal is reached, I will give him authority over the nations; - 5 He who wins the victory will, like them, be dressed in white clothing; and I will not blot his name out of the Book of Life; - "11 I am coming soon; hold on to what you have, so that no one will take away your crown." (very reveling) - 21 I will let him who wins the victory sit with me on my throne, just as I myself also won the victory and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Those who have ears, let them hear what the Spirit is saying to the Messianic communities.”’” There you have them... 7 letters; 7 warnings. I could quote Hebrews: 6, I could quote Paul always warning us to finish the race. Or Peter warning us about the same thing. But people will always make excuses in order to "win the argument" or prove that their theological position is the correct one. My advice to believers would be this: pursue holiness, without which, no one will see God: Hebrews 12:14 Don't delude yourselves, God cannot be mocked, for everything that man sows, that he will reap: Galatians 6:7 Just my two cents... Shalom.
@CarlosPerdomo Жыл бұрын
@@rctk2000 Hmmm, that is not Biblical...🤔
@CarlosPerdomo Жыл бұрын
@@rctk2000, the quotes you mention are correct. The Bible does say that. But it also states that we are to persevere till the end. These passages are clear: Hebrews 6: 4-6 Hebrews 10:26-28 2 Peter 2: 20-22 Matthew 7: 21-23 1 John 2: 3-4 Shalom.
@followingthewayofyeshua Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosPerdomo Carlos you seem like a man who searches the Word of יהוה and because of that I want you to remember about the prophet Jonah. He was chosen by יהוה for a job. Jonah was to preach a special message of repentance yet, what did he do? He went his own way, in fact he went the opposite way of where he was supposed to go! And what did Elohim do? He could have abandoned him and chosen another and better servant but instead יהוה looked for him and with strong hand brought Jonah back to the path were hi was supposed to go. Brother, if you are one of His chosen ones He will bring you back from wherever you are and when He comeback you will be found doing his job, not because your effort is necessary for your salvation but because that nature He has put in you makes you do His job. Let me read you a Roman church decreed by the council of Trent, session 6 cannon 9:" If anyone says that by faith alone the sinner is justified so as to mean that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification let him be anathema." This is one of the Roman church legacies along with abolishing the Sabbaths and the use of idols and images of a Jesus in our houses or even videos! We need to go back to the original teachings of the Bible, and I know that just like with Jonah all the chosen ones will be back to those teachings.
@CarlosPerdomo Жыл бұрын
@@followingthewayofyeshua, It's interesting that you mention Jonah because something similar happened to me. That is, that once it was confirmed to me that Adonai was calling me to serve Him, I didn't want to do it. The reason was that I knew that my message wouldn't be popular but the contrary. I struggled with that and tried to "get away" from the calling. However, I made the decision to surrender completely to my God. His will, not mine. Just like Yeshua himself said at the garden... Since you quoted the church of Rome; which I'd never support, I will quote you what the "original" church told the remnant: "19 My brothers, if one of you wanders from the truth, and someone causes him to return, 20 you should know that whoever turns a sinner from his wandering path will save him from death and cover many sins. James 5: 19-20" Shalom
@followingthewayofyeshua Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosPerdomo Carlos, it may seem as a coincidence that I have reminded you about Jonah but nothing is a coincidence in the kingdom of יהוה . You needed to be reminded of that, and as far as your decision to do His will, was it your decision? Remember, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” So if we do anything good is it because of us or because of the new nature put in us?
@kenneth7491 Жыл бұрын
Whole lot of christian defend that once save always is false teaching. So they would have to lose their salvation every time they sin .Myself i need a savior and fall short. Great teaching . Im Ashamed of my sin. I got caught up in the wof but i dont believe i lost my salvation. GOD woke me up to truth . Thanks guys , love your videos !
@josepharagon799 Жыл бұрын
Blessing brethren. May God give you peace and blessing in our Lord Jesus Christ!!!
@nanettebates6864 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bro.Christian and Dr. Baruch for clarifying the questions I have had. I have members of my extended family and friends who have stated they’re saved and continue in sins. What a great joy looking forward to your videos especially when I’ve got concerned and have questions also. Like many others I praise Jesus Christ and God the Father for the wonderful work for God like these. In which I get answers and scriptures explained to understand God Holy Word.
@AkuFruchter Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me what would happen to believer who received the mark of the beast? Since we cannot lose our salvation which is eternal.
@777atys6 Жыл бұрын
Will believers be here for the tribulation, and have to decide to receive the mark of the beast or not?
@ginamcgalem2032 Жыл бұрын
Les agradezco por la explicación de cada versículo, doy gracias al Señor Jesus cómo nos abre el entendimiento,Dios los bendiga a ustedes y sus familias..
@eyeexcel Жыл бұрын
Blessings! Please do a follow up.
@RapidShotzZ Жыл бұрын
Thank for the video 🙏
@chericandream Жыл бұрын
sWORD Spirit and Truth withIN believers: ...Seek, Pray, Test, Meditate, Perceive, and be open TO receiving discernment. Study to know the Father and Son, echad. (one) The Good News ‘Saving Will’ Testimony - Seek First the Everlasting Kingdom. (Luke 22:18-20) Yahu'Sha Messiah said; "For I say unTO you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the Kingdom of the Most High Ab Yahu'Ah Sovereign shall come." 19 And He took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unTO them, saying; …“This IS My body which IS given for you: this do IN remembrance of Me.” 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying; …”This cup IS the new covenant everlasting IN My blood, which IS shed for you.” (Joel 2:28-32) And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My sWORD upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids IN those days will I pour out My sWORD Spirit and Truth. 30 And I will shew wonders IN the heavens and IN the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Most High Ab Yahu'Ah Sovereign come. 32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Most High Ab Yahu'Ah shall be delivered: …for IN Mount Zion and IN Yarushalyim shall be deliverance, as the Most High Sovereign hath said, and deliverance IN the remnant whom the Most High Ab Yahu'Ah shall call. By the sWORD Spirit and Truth of their testimony, they overcame because of the message, belief, and witness IN the shedding of ‘flesh and blood’ IN Yahu'Sha Messiah’s 'death and resurrection'. (2 Timothy 2:15) “Study TO shew thyself approved unTO the Most High Ab Yahu'Ah, a workman (servant; laborers) that needeth not to be ashamed, ‘upRightly teach’ the sWORD Spirit and Truth.” (G3718 orthotomeō) ...The Strong’s Concordance defines it like this: 1. TO cut straight, TO cut straight ways, TO proceed on straight paths, hold a straight course, equiv. TO doing upRight. 2. TO make straight and smooth, TO handle aRight, TO teach the truth directly and correctly. It IS a believers' duty TO seek for all HIStorical Scriptural Truths, and not just beLIEve what someone posts as truth. Discernment IN prayer, seeking, testing, perceiving, and open TO receiving ‘wisdom and understanding’ through sWORD Spirit and Truth withIN one! Praise and thanks TO the Most High Ab Yahu'Ah, and all esteem TO His anointed Hebrew Son Yahu'Sha Messiah, our King, High Priest, and Intercessor unTO Life, Love, Logic, and Loyalty everlasting, for believers that "Hear Ye Him!" Morning by morning womb!!!
@annmarie29649 ай бұрын
All we have to do is look at the parable of the sower to see how true salvation works.
@annalee896810 ай бұрын
In the context of assurance of Jesus is faithful to believers, do believers Still exercise Free will not be faithful and walk away from Jesus?
@amandasewell575 Жыл бұрын
Then how do you get blotted out of the book of life that Jesus warned the dead church in Revelation 3 if you can't lose your salvation if you had salvation and was in the book of life,how does one lose salvation and be blotted out of the book of life?
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
Be careful Jesus never said he will blot anyone out of the book of life! That is false teaching!
@mariafinke99138 ай бұрын
❤🙏📖🤲🙌🤗
@richardbrownjr6813 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU DR.BARUCH AND CHRISTIAN B. FOR ANOTHER GREAT DISCUSSION! WE MUST RELY ON THE WORD OF GOD TO SPEAK TRUTH TO US BY THE REVELATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT! AS THE SONG WRITER SAYS, WE MUST LEAN ON THE EVERLASTING ARM OF GOD AND NOT ON BEING LED BY MEN'S INTERPRETATION OF HIS WORD! THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CLARIFYING ANY MISS UNDERSTANDING CONCERNING HIS WORD! SHALOM BROTHERS AND HAPPY SHABATT!
@sarab53647 ай бұрын
What about Matthew 10:33? If we’re believers yet live in a manner that denies Yeshua, are we denied by him in front of the Father?
@lawrenceterry9283 Жыл бұрын
We can all make scripture say what we want it to say just when I think I understand him he goes in a different direction. I believe it clearly says you can lose your salvation I heard a man say years back you can be raptured out of a bar if your backslider at the time. Because of once saved always saved you’ll be raptured right out of the bar.
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
No scripture to prove what you believe is actually believing others in their destructive false teachings
@annalee896810 ай бұрын
In the end time, Jesus said many will fall away. I guess dr Korman believes everyone Fall away is not believers.
@trevorbates9017 Жыл бұрын
The entire teaching of the Holy Bible, and in particular the Gospels tells us that we are, as sinners, unacceptable to Almghty God. The reason is clear, to me. If we are following Jesus Christ's teaching we are following a science of repair. Failure to follow that repairing science will leave us buckled and bent in our righteous health because the opposing science to righteousness and Jesus Christ's accurate teaching is a body full of stale lymph, and no pure aqueous fluid to flush it away.
@annalee896810 ай бұрын
I love Dr Korman but he is dancing around the question about God will vomit lukewarm believers. He said God hates and distaste lukewarm believers and yet the lukewarm believers will be in the kingdom is inconceivable.
@hotdacone4840 Жыл бұрын
King Saul and King David comes to mind in comparison. Also Ananias and his wife in Acts 5? And in James 2:24 ...a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. Matt 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. Heb 10:19-39. Thanks for discussing this topic and looking forward to part 2.
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
Hotdac One , You are very confused; King David and Saul and Ananias and his wife have nothing to do with losing salvation. James is talking about being justified before man by our works of faith, not justified before God, because if that is what you are saying then we are the ones that justify ourselves and Christ did nothing to Justify us at the Cross, can you see how you take the cross away with your works, CONFUSING. Now as for Matt 7. He is talking about false prophets' wolves in sheep's clothes, not saved People. Jesus tells them ( I NEVER KNEW YOU ) what does that mean to you?? to me it means they were never saved or Jesus would be lying because He KNOWS His sheep correct? so they were never saved read the context!
@hotdacone4840 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 Thanks for taking the time to reply. The Scripture is ALL about Salvation. The topic here is Once Saved Always Saved. Clearly we need to establish what that means. The end goal is to edify our brethren so that we may work out our salvation with fear and trembling and cross the finish line and be found to be victors in Christ. Does is it mean a profession of faith only? Clearly, Jesus tells us with terms like 'workers of lawlessness', 'every tree that does not bear good fruit, is cut down and thrown into the fire', 'Wise man and foolish man', etc. Why is king David acceptable to God and NOT king Saul?
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
@@hotdacone4840 they were both accepted by God, they were both saved, and are with the Lord. Jesus said just to believe in Him, didn't HE? you try to make one verse contradict the many verses where Jesus says just to believe, FOR EXAMPLE! John 3:15-16 15 That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should NOT PERISH, but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have EVERLASTING LIFE. John 3:36 He that BELIEVETH on the Son hath EVERLASTING LIFE and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and BELIEVETH on him that sent me, HATH EVERLASTING LIFE; and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 6:40 40 And this is the WILL of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on HIM, may HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:47 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and BELIEVETH in me shall NEVER DIE. Believest thou this? John 10:28 And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 17:3 And this is LIFE ETERNAL that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
@hotdacone4840 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 Thanks for sharing your insight. Shalom.
@leeleekoh4219 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 , Hi Brother, Many people read John 3: 16 and apply the word BELIEVE in their own mind and missed out GOD's definition of BELIEVED in the BIBLE ! See Isaiah 28 :16 -2 16 Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I lay in Zion a stone for a foundation, A tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; Whoever believes will not act hastily. 17 Also I will make justice the measuring line, And righteousness the plummet; The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, And the waters will overflow the hiding place. 18 Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through, Then you will be trampled down by it. 19 As often as it goes out it will take you; For morning by morning it will pass over, And by day and by night; It will be a terror just to understand the report.” See John 12:46 NKJV I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. ***If Anyone read the ENTIRE Bible ( OT & NT ) properly with understanding, you will know that what ever we do , whether it is right or wrong , all in the eyes of the LORD that count ! When GOD judges the Kings , The Scriptures always say ,...he does good or evil in the eyes of GOD ! So it is not human's Definition of Believeth ..it is what God think One who believe should act ! This is not Work for Salvation , this is work of faith , that is the Fruit of a believer as a result of faith in CHRIST ! See Thessalonians 1:3 New King James Version 3 remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, Also see 2 Thessalonians 1:11 New King James Version 11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, I hope this helps anyone to understand better. I STRONGLY urge all of us to READ the ENTIRE Bible ( Old & New ) again & again until one can see it is the same GOD speaking the same righteousness all the time !
@dstarc899 Жыл бұрын
The gospel is the key. A half gospel or false gospel has no power
@rozznel8692 Жыл бұрын
⏺Then Peter said unto Him, Lord, speakest Thou this parable unto *us* [1], or also to all? ... Blessed is that servant ... but if that servant ... my Lord delays to come ... and will appoint him his portion *with the unbelievers* [2]. ◾Lk 12^ 41 ... 46 [1] hémas = us [2] meta tôn apistôn = with the unbelievers ⏺For if *we* [1] sinning *wilfully* [2] after ... there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, ... and having deemed the Blood of the Covenant, wherewith *he was sanctified* [3], common, ... ◾Heb 10 ^26 ... 29 [1] hémôn = us (we) ; Heb 3^1: *holy* brethren [2] hekousiôs = deliberately ; 1-Pet 5^2: willingly [3] hégiasthé = he *was* sanctified
@evierice2230 Жыл бұрын
Jesus is real and alive! The KJV Bible is true! It's the true word if God!!! You are loved!! Jesus loves you so much, that He died for you!! He paid for all sin for all time with His death on the Cross! He rose again on the third day!!! To prove that He is God and that you have been declared innocent! We all sin! The instant you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord, you are Saved from the penalty of sin, which is death! Jesus already paid your fine, in full!!! Call on Jesus! Believe and run to Him!!! Just as you are!!! His arms are wide open!!! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 John 3:15-18 Ephesians 2:8-9 Romans 10:9-13!
@DadsBoyz Жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but what about Revelation 3:1-6?? Thank u brothers!
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
Very simple, I think I know what verse you are talking about; Revelation 3:5 King James Version 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. ( The question is how does on OVERCOME? ). let us find out in scripture. 1 John 5:5 King James Version 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? Very simple seek the scriptures all answers should be there.
@believeme7704 Жыл бұрын
A married preacher who has a ministry of power, then stops praying as before and falls into temptation and becomes a lover of his secretary being married, and one day he goes to pick her up at her house to go to fornicate in a hotel and they got killed in an accident, will the pastor be saved? If the pastor would be saved, then the bible lies, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? You will not err; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor those who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God .
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
@ Believe Me The Bible doesn't lie that is why you need to read the next verse, not just verses 9 and 10 that so many like to skip so they can twist scripture to their destruction; 1 Corinthians 6:11 King James Version 11 And such WERE some of you: but ye ARE washed, but ye ARE sanctified, but ye ARE justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
@believeme7704 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 the preacher was saved when he died?
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
@@believeme7704 Of course, IF HE WAS saved in the first place. But Jesus told us that we cannot tell if one has the Spirit or not, John 3:8 King James Version 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. All we can do is go by what they say about Christ is it biblical or Not!
@believeme7704 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
@believeme7704 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 If the pastor was saved, then adulterers, infidels, liars, lewd people, hypocrites and those who bear false witness can enter heaven.
@IesousXristosZee Жыл бұрын
I also believe that you can loose your salvation, and I have studied this subject for many years. Yes Christ is faithful and can do anything as God, but if one changes his beliefs and turns and follows other... then he is not saved any more. Hebrews 6:4-6, 10:26 is couple of most clear Scriptures for me
@Rosebud4u1 Жыл бұрын
The question is... was he ever saved in the first place!
@IesousXristosZee Жыл бұрын
@@Rosebud4u1 the answer to was he saved is yes he was. In Hebrews 6:4--6 (please read all) says that he was enlighten and tasted the Holy Spirit and then he fell away...... so we specifically are talking about people we reject Christ after they are born again with Holy Spirit. This video was all about Christ being able to keep us, and I have no problem with that of course he is able, he is God, but if WE change our minds down the road since we have a choice as long as we have breath we can be lost.
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
@@IesousXristosZee Let's take a look at those verses closer, shall we? 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, ( Yep it is talking about believers for sure! partakers of the Holy Ghost should have sealed the deal here! ) 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. ( Now here is where the problem persists, people say that one can lose salvation according to these few verses, BUT it never said that read the context closer, please!; ) IT SAYS ( It is impossible for one to come back to repentance ( IF, IF, IF ) they shall fall away, It never said ONE can fall away, or it is possible for one to fall away. You see if one uses this to say that one can lose their salvation, then one cannot go against these VERSES that tell you YOU That YOU CANNOT come back to repentance, In other words, these verses are actually giving you assurance of OSAS. because ( IF ) you can lose it, then you can never get it back, you see Jesus isn't coming back to shed His blood again, He did it once and for all. Jesus said all it takes for one to be saved is to believe in Him correct; John 3:16 , John 3:36, John 5:24, John 6:40, John 6:47, John 10:28, John 11:26, John 17:3 So If it takes us to believe in Jesus to have eternal life, then how can one NOT have eternal life after they have it? Great question glad you asked; I have found 3 things that can make one not have their salvation after saying one has it or one that has it. 1.) One that lied about believing in Jesus Christ for their salvation, so they are still in UNBELIEF! ( Can one lie about this, we lie all the time! ) 2.) One that believes in Jesus Christ but not in the Gospel of their salvation, what Christ did at the cross for the forgiveness of our sins, which means they are believing in another Jesus another gospel, RELIGIONS. 3.) If one stops Believing; is this possible? of course not, it isn't biblical at all. Oh one can lose sight of what they are doing, and one can stop going to church, BUT have they stopped believing in Jesus Christ and what He did at the Cross? of course NOT!. LOOK if I believe in the crayon that I have been told throughout my life that it is BLUE and one day someone tells me Hey that is not Blue it is yellow and you were lied to all these years, well someone better give me proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is not a blue crayon but a yellow one, otherwise I will still be believing it is blue!, get the picture? Has anyone ever given information that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus did not die for me or ever went to the cross for me, NO, NOT AT ALL so no matter what I get hit with in this life, I can never stop believing in Jesus who is the Christ. I was a backslider for years because of situations in church and other things, but did it stop me from believing that Jesus Died for me at the Cross and rose on the 3rd day for my justification OF COURSE NOT!
@johnisabeth2504 Жыл бұрын
Maybe then the scriptures should read the gate is wide and many shall find it. Because there are many many people now and in the past who beleived and beleive in Jesus. Many many people were genuine when they confessed that Jesus is lord but since have denied Jesus. I am skeptical because you yourself are using your own interlect and interpreting the meaning of scriptures. I hope it is true but as I said I am skeptical. Half the virgins were denied entry to the wedding feast. Lord lord I cast out demons and did works in your name. These people genuinely beleive they are saved but Jesus told them to get away from him.
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
No Jesus said to them I NEVER KNEW YOU, meaning never saved correct? If the 5 foolish virgins were saved why didn't they have enough oil? We cannot start to teach a doctrine from a parable, lol.
@johnisabeth2504 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 those who were tolld to get away honestly thought and probably were taught that they were born again. It is a genuine plea at the time. And started with passionate heart felt faith. Then left to their own devises with no descipleship they slip back into the world. The Word teaches that if you don't respond to the prompting of the Holy Spirit eventually you will know longer here His voice. Plenty of these Christians hate the literal Word and listen to twisted preaching. And ocult preaching. are pro abortion, pro feminism, pro yoga. in fact pro everything the world pushes on the church. I am talking about every single church and fellowship I know of in my region and areas I have lived in. Don't be concerned with doctrine pastors say and avoid those who think that without doctrine we have nothing. Just love one another. GOD loves everyone. These are the people that practice lawlessness work antiquity I am talking about
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
@@johnisabeth2504 Read that chapter carefully, in Matt 7, for it is talking about false prophets, wolves in sheep's clothes.( V 15 ) and not virgins, or Christians. Notice in ( V16 ) ye shall know them by their fruits, the fruit is what people say, it is either the word of God or your word, in this case it was their words, for they said WE, WE cast out devils in your name, WE, WE prophesied in your name, WE, WE done wonderful things....they came with their fruits and not the fruits of the VINE the Word of God Jesus. and this is why Jesus said to them ( I NEVER KNEW YOU ) what does it mean to you when Jesus says " i never knew you " ? ( Now if it means you lost your salvation, then wouldn't that make Jesus a liar? because if they were saved at one point or another wouldn't JESUS KNOW THEM at that time? He knows His Sheep and they fallow Him, correct?
@johnisabeth2504 Жыл бұрын
@@brohuggie2978 what did James say. Without fruit your faith is dead. What does that mean. What does hebrews 10 16 to 39 mean. The virgins are all christians. Jesus will judge all his people. I appreciate your input. Maybe with the guidance of the Holy Spirit He may change my mind. Like I originally said I am not convinced when I look at the whole context. If you read John 3:16 without full context you could say everyone who believes in Jesus will be saved. Pretty sure satanists beleive in Jesus but they have decided to make satan their lord are not saved.
@brohuggie2978 Жыл бұрын
@@johnisabeth2504 Besides John 3:16 where jesus was talking, Let us look at a couple other verses Jesus is talking as well, and can you help me in the context, so i can understand it? John 3:15 15 That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should NOT PERISH, but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE John 3:36 He that BELIEVETH on the Son hath EVERLASTING LIFE and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and BELIEVETH on him that sent me, HATH EVERLASTING LIFE; and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 6:40 40 And this is the WILL of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on HIM, may HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:47 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and BELIEVETH in me shall NEVER DIE. Believest thou this? John 10:28 And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 17:3 And this is LIFE ETERNAL that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. ( Now tell me, If a satinist decides to beleive in Jesus is he saved? OR is jesus not telling us the truth? )
@havalevi52223 күн бұрын
They are taking isolated Bible verses without the context. How can you get an understanding and make a point without taking into consideration the whole paragraph?