I agree...he was just waiting to see if there was anybody paying attention...if she had someone that cared, or if there was evidence of their wrong doing. He is a Liar!

he is lying

well said

I don't think there is any reason to think the two options are mutually exclusive. It would hardly be the first lying, incompetent officer to be promoted to chief.

Exactly John... So true. You know damn well he has knowledge of this incident! GOD only knows what else these tyrants have gotten away with! 🤨

When you're stopped by police, and say "I didn't know I was exceeding the speed limit." "How could I have known? " When mom, has a live in boyfriend and says, "I didn't know he's been abusing my child." 😦 "How could I have known? It's not my fault." When a chief of police says, " ... ... None of the leaders reported anything wrong. Nothing. Until after the lawsuit was filed. That's not poor training. That's bad leadership. In a disordered culture. That's Jordan vs New London which says they only hire people who easily adapt to an already broken culture. That's qualified immunity which says, unless you can absolutely, and completely prove otherwise, they're never wrong.

He’s a lier

Well said

My thought exactly.

damn darrel you took the words out of my mouth!!! you cannot train critical thought..one look at the women days "not all there" call an ambulance or follow her home. Cops ALL cops take people for granted...we have all become "suspects".

sick bastards

Why do you believe you know his motive? Is that how you are?

@@chazfaz3595 because we saw people under his command attack an old woman, and then we saw him cover it up. He's obviously not motivated by protecting the citizens of Loveland, so we are left to speculte. If he doesn't like the speculation, I guess that means he's got some explaining to do, huh?

@@chazfaz3595 We're all entitled to our opinion, are we not?

That piece of 💩🐖 chief only took action cause they got caught.

What are the 'good cops' saying about this?

It sank in when cops did the exact same thing to a 66 yr old grandmother on her way to a funeral. I guess she didn’t stop fast enough for them. It sank in when they broke my 72 yr old Great Aunt’s wrist a few yrs before. I guess she did move out of the way fast enough for them. Oh the outrage now tho. When people let it go this far for years, what did they expect would happen?

@@msreen269 I saw that grandma who was on her way to the funeral. Poor old lady didn't even know why she was being stopped and of course, no one would tell her. I guess they have a thing against old people. God help them when they get old.

@@lacountess Actually you are not far off, and its being pushed by the media. Look how often you see negative ageist remarks about boomers on forums and ever in the news.

@@MichaelClark-uw7ex Yes, Bill Maher had a whole segment about it. It's the only -ism that still gets around without anyone getting cancelled for it, and it's just as wrong.

Complicit in elder abuse by the Loveland cops.

I hate it when people say that. They are not sorry at all.

There are a number of OTHER Loveland cases where their Police have used force & abused citizens, even causing DEATH! Just search on KZfaq and you’ll find many other recent cases.

Prison for all these Loveland police. Of course it won't happen. Cops don't go to prison. The get paid leave instead.

Abolish the contract between the police union and the cities. Get rid of them, they don't protect anyone.

@@rustyshackleford2902 Not true. They protect themselves.

Sir you are 100% correct.

Thank you citizens! This is how it works! What you did will fix EVERYTHING!

Thank God the internet is stepping in too

Thank you!

Patriots All - Standing Tall

I wish more people showed up.

They prob already working for the neighboring county

Don't worry. The Ft. Collins Police Department is conducting a criminal investigation. Cops investigating other cops. We don't need a citizen's review board for all police use of force incidents and shootings. The cops do such a good job investigating themselves. These professionals always find themselves not guilty and justified. Don't worry, the system always works well...... works well for guilty cops that is.

I’m not surprised. Dirty Cops literally killing children and get away with it.

They treated her like a black person. Stings doesn't it?

Hopefully at DA in that town has their sights on them. I think all it takes is watching the videos to realize a crime has happened. Hopefully local people can make their voices heard for what they want to happen. You don't necessarily need a protest, call the DA's office, and make sure they know if something doesn't happen here that you will be extremely unhappy. If they get enough calls, something will happen. I don't live in that local area, so while my outrage of what happened to her makes me want to call them too, local people matter more. It's best to take your thoughts to the courts, and not to the streets. I think there's been wide enough coverage on this that those cops should really go to jail. And the DA should make sure that their sentences fit the crime, so they can't get jobs tormenting people the same way they always have.

....and it's more the likely the tip of a gigantic iceberg of abuse of power.

She was a senior and a very vulnerable adult- hopefully federal charges will come too.

And when they viewed the arrest video and laughed!

Yes a cowardly assault on an a 73 year old frail mentally impaired woman , laughing about it is what was the nail in the coffin for me , What sort of mind set do you have to have to do this sort of thing / They should be jailed & given help to understand the sick behavior they see as normal.

YES JAIL TIME

But he’s extremely concerned this video was made public , and wants to assure residents it won’t happen again .

@@cabinbills6743 Yeah, he'll make sure no videos come to be seen by the public ever again.

Mister Bigears exactly

Look at that department there killing the tax payer this chief looks like he can’t even be bothered very smooth talker

There is no love in Loveland and the police are the chief culprits what a shame

Nobody wants to be a cop

He was busy.

He's admitting that he is an incompetent leader who doesn't know what his subordinates are doing. He admits that he cannot manage his department OR his employees properly.

Councilman john, As as there are BAD coproaches there will never be GOOD coproaches

Make no mistake, he knew and is just tryin to save his own ass

@@highwayhiker2915 exactly!

Lady in pink nailed it. You are either incompetent or a lyer.

And still I feel he is not transparent enough. Fuck him. Ticer is a bitch.

The Whole Lot of Them......Mayor, DA. City Council, Chief.......Police Department....Bring in the State Police....

It would be hard if not impossible to convict the officers involved. It was inhumane how they acted. But technically It would be hard to find them guilty. They will be able to bullshit their way through any charges brought against them. Technically she didn't fully cooperate so the 2 cops involved will weasel themselves out of any type of conviction of anything. The arresting officers can't be convicted for being inhumane assholes, if the suspect didn't fully cooperate. It is too bad but I doubt the arresting police officers will ever be found guilty of anything.

@@joevicario9815 I doubt what you said is true, but if it is, they should try any way because it promotes justice

@@goofyrulez7914 I think you just hit the truth in the vein.

@@joevicario9815 If your arm is broke and your shoulder is out of the socket it is impossible to comply. It will look like your flexing but the reality is you are reacting to the pain, go back and look at the body cam you will see the pain in her face. The officer knew she was in pain, watch as he moves her in a way or position to cause as much pain as he can. He is sadistic, the female officer jumped right in to share in the take down, they were geared up for blood, and the supervisor came to help in hog tying her. I wonder if they are still laughing and joking about it now?

@@dpersonal4187 Even laughing about dislocating her arm, while sadistic and grotesque, What can be they charged with ? They would merely say "I didn't mean to dislocate her arm." And if asked about the laughing at her injuries, they'll say "I feel bad about that it was wrong to laugh, and I apologize for it" Then what ? After that ? If asked : Why did you use such excessive force on an older lady with dementia ? The officer will answer "I had no idea she had dementia, but I had to restrain her for not complying with my orders, I apologize for any injuries she suffered" His lawyer will say "The force was not excessive but the lady was so fragile that any type of force would seem excessive" That's pretty much how the trial would go down. And in all probability the officer would walk free. unfortunately

I agree that *STILL ISN'T AN APOLOGY!!* That Police Chief deserves everything he gets.

Exactly! It’s outrageous!

The word " if" should never appear in an apology. I call it the non-apology. This bum should be sued back to he stoneage

We are extremely concerned about [how bad this makes us look]

Sounded more like a sucks to be you than an apology.

And charged for felony assault/battery

Then sent to jail

All of them should be in prison

Hope that logic implies towards BLM and other parties that cause great mischief .

@@chrisrodriguez388 police corruption and BLM are all part of the same Hegelian Dialectic funded by billionaires to get the people to choose a side between the lie versus the other lie.

@@gdog3finally Stupid ppl say stupid things..And you win the award for it

@@gdog3finally you could have just kept that lunatic comment to yourself...and not be identified as a failure of the public school systems Jesus tap-dancing christ, man

He is guilty.

He has done nothing except give everyone a payed vacation they all should have been arrested and the Sergeant needs to go

He is sorry the family didn't think his half assed apologies were enough 🙄

Sorry about the situation of being caught. F'ing lying piece of crap.

He doesn't want to because it gives the family suing another piece of ammo to use against them in the lawsuit. Not that they'll need it. This department needs to be bankrupted.

Absolutely.

Actually it's not a defense at all. I'm studyin logical fallacies at the moment and i just read about the "appeal to ignorance" wherein a person uses a lack of knowledge as a defense. It's not allowed in debate because your position has to be clear. If someone appeals to their ignorance they're just citing their own incompetence.

Happened on his watch own up to it asshole .how about the town go to his house and beat the hell out of his mother .see if that gives him something to think about . asshole cops gotta go that simple cause harm and abused sue arrested jailed then owe haft their paycheck where ever they work goes to the people they abused .

@@elik.webber1514 - I really wish God would shine the light on the corrupt, evil, San Jose police officers who bully people on the streets, and when you try to file a report with their " Consumer Affairs " dept., they refuse to file report !

From your lips to God's ears there out of control.

they will keep getting away with it. The more protests that emerge, the more pro-cop protests will shut them down. It is only going to get worse.

Exactly.

Being sorry someone was offended by your behavior isn't being sorry for that behavior.

@@mutantplants1 Like Will said, it's being sorry for being caught.

@@kathryngeeslin9509 For sure, but also saying I'm sorry that what I did upset you isn't the same as saying I'm sorry I did the thing that upset you. If I walked up to you and punched you in the face for no reason, would you want me to say I'm sorry that punching you in the face upset you or would you want me to say I'm sorry I punched you in the face? One of these things is an apology, the other is not.

@@mutantplants1 It infuriates me when people do that knowing full well what they *did* was wrong, apart from the "upset". Even worse is "I'm sorry you were upset by being hit in the face."

Agreed. The officers only resigned to salvager their careers in other police departments. It doesn't mean they're going to change. They need to be officially fired. And the chief, one way or another, allowed this saga to occur. He needs accountability too.

And don’t let them keep their police Craigs remove their power to do this ever anywhere

And charged with crimes!

That guy was a strait tool

What you are going to get is a ski tourist boycott this fall if you do t get rid of the chief and start over

What is NEEDED is for police departments to RAISE their standards for accepting applicants into the police department, make more in depth psychological evaluations, and stop hiring potential felons into the ranks.

…and stop making excuses for them. It used to be "one rotten apple quickly spoils the rest." Dump it, QUICK! Now it's become "It's only a few bad apples" and we're supposed to turn a blind eye as the police chief and city councilmen protect them and let them spread the rot at taxpayer's expense.

Right. Piss off and F OFF. Total bs

Well.....hence lying to them right? Right?

for ten months? i agree he should have known after 4 months!

@@mrkennyfernand He should have known that day or at least the next day. He is the damn chief and should be reading every report his pigs file. He needs to be sniped.

There is a special place in hell for these sadistic cops.

@@AuditRecon Don't forget the local DA.

Oh it's so horrible! She did break the law it seems like it's getting to where society is more sympathetic to the damn criminals than anyone else.

@@trumanupchurch364 the lady had dementia dude. I can almost guarantee she didn't even know what she was doing.

@@jacobray7494 ok sure she didn't.

Indicted, arrested, convicted and imprisoned.

Then put in general population...

@@juanitawhite7195 Unfortunately The Thick Blue Line covers for each other.

How would you have handled the situation?

I wonder if these cops would treat their OWN mother/grandmother like this...

"I love it" -- my stomach turned when I heard him say that. Literally made me sick!

If they are willing to do that to an elderly white woman…. Imagine what they have been doing to black communities

Exactly, any regular citizen would be charged within minutes. When the cops investigate their own the investigation goes on for years!

When you wrong someone especially to this degree, it's not their job nor do they have to accept your apology and an apology doesn't absolve what happened.

If they dont get rid of him.Wecshould start a national campaign to boycott the Loveland ski resort this fall until they do fire him

@@robroy621 Nice sentiment. Except that the ski resort is about 103 driving miles from the subject town. I understand that both Loveland Pass and the city of Loveland are both named after the same man, but they are half a State apart.

Just not true. But reform is needed. Yes additional training, especially in deescalation and working with the mentally ill. Yes a database nationwide to keep track of police who have had problems. Yes regular counseling and intervention for officers who have undergone traumatic experiences, etc. This insane effort to defund/dismantle police will result in more innocent people hurt. My state is trying to close prisons and release violent offenders while simultaneously destroy law enforcement. Oh and forget defending yourself because they want to take away your firearms. This trainwreck is happening to California. Don't be stupid like us LEARN!!!!

@@SusanLynch-cu4yp trump yourself ..!!!!

@@SusanLynch-cu4yp finally someone with some common sense

Fire all psycho cops, all of them!

Spoken like a true felon

Get some new and different elected officials to go along with the new police dept.

@@juanitawhite7195 Yes. I think the Loveland City Council must be filled with dirty people too.

They are all complicit - get rid of all the corrupt politicians and police and judges- get rid of implied immunity- get rid of them at the first thought of corruption or criminal acts- get rid of them quick- they are like weeds- they will spread if you don’t get rid of them fast- fire them and prosecute them - get them out- they betray our trust

Me to wayne, hope she gets enough to live out her life very comfortable. Insist the 3 cops get charged, and the chief resign. A big win for karen, and a win for loveland.

I agree, this horrible behavior must have consequences. And everything possible done to restore Karen's sense of safety and insure she is truly safe.

This cruel treatment of a sweet, elderly lady by those that are sworn to protect her is chilling and unconscionable. There should be criminal charges against them. The fact that there aren't is more than enough reason to send the police chief down the road kicking horse turds and talking to himself.

The city solicitor would have strongly advised any party to the litigation from the defendant side to refrain from saying anything that could be construed as an apology. An apology would be used against the city at trial as consciousness of guilt.

Wayne I am sorry to hear of the treatment your family member rcvd at the hands of the local police. They certainly didnt serve her or protect her. What a shame.

Sadistic training is what they received, hope the officers are charged with serious time so they can fezz up to all the corruption by the blind eye chief.

What roll of the 'blue team' that kept this under raps for so long?? How come they are not looked at? This does not excuse the brass in anyway... the whole dept. needs to be looked at. What went down is/was evil! Hoping Mrs. Gardner is recovering/ed, even if her aged mental disease still most likely ongoing anxiety/fears. :(

I said the same thing when the chief said additional training.....So what kind of training is needed that tells an officer they shouldn't SLOWLY and deliberately wrench a 90 pound 73 year old woman's arm until her shoulder pops....then lie that she wasn't injured, then cough her to a bench, and then review tge body cam of the assault and laugh about it? The chief has to go.

What needs to happen is set up real world training scenarios to see if police can deescalate and have empathy for the public. If they cant they should be terminated before they are ever allowed to patrol alone.

Role* lol

Fire him now.

The culture of law enforcement has become concerning to me. I'm not a defund police person but it would be better if law enforcement became part of the community again. Over the last 20 years or so I've witnessed a major shift of law enforcement and fire/rescue personnel separate themselves from their communities deliberately. This is not good for anyone or any community.

It's about 60,000 -70,000 per Wikipedia. Not a very large city. He should have known...

@@davidtfoster8016 law enforcement has always been abusive, racist and chauvinist.

@Ron K chile...i got chills...they got the color of protection..if this was a minority there wouldn't be all this talking and back and forth he/she would have been removed expeditiously.

The police didn't take her to a hospital. She was sent to prison and luckily someone there saw her injuries and sent her to a hospital.

That shit was in the news including the investigation and complaints filed by the family members. He knew. And lied.

And why hasn't Metzler not been fired? He knew all about the injuries.

Why is it not in prison?

He needs to be charge along with the other two,He is the Supervisior he OK its!!!!!!!!!!!!

He’s a tyrant

THERE IS VIDEO. If he is NOT looking at the video the next morning, EVERY morning in fast mode for weird behavior or incidents then of course he does not know and that is inexcusable. If he won't do it for every day he at LEAST needs to do it randomly. LAZY GOOD FOR NOTHING HAS TO RESIGN. OR GET FIRED. EVERY Chief needs to be doing this REVIEWING the tapes. Especially in a small town.

They are afraid of real criminals. They probably go out of their way to avoid confronting the bad guys.

When you're stopped by police, and you say "I didn't know I was exceeding the speed limit." "How could I have known? " When mom, has a live in boyfriend and says, "I didn't know he's been abusing my child." 😦 "How could I have known? It's not my fault." When a chief of police says, " ... ... None of the leaders reported anything wrong. Nothing. Until after the lawsuit was filed. That's not poor training. That's bad leadership. In a disordered culture. That's Jordan vs New London which says they only hire people who easily adapt to an already broken culture. That's qualified immunity which says, unless you can absolutely, and completely prove otherwise, they're never wrong.

It’s happening all over

They will always just “additionally train”. Did you see the new murder amusement park they built this year? A whole law enforcement training facility complete with its own indoor state of the art shooting range, a high speed raceway, and a 5 acre concrete area for practicing “maneuvers”. Now not only will we be watched over by the same thugs, but also a fresh group of highly “trained” pigs to continue terrorizing the community that they’re supposed to protect.

It’s not a training issue,it’s the fact that they look for sociopaths to hire to do the job. Who else can sleep at night when they screw over people and ruin lives all day.

First they gotta find the people who trained them in police dept

That’s the start of the coverup

Great point!

When you're stopped by police, and you say "I didn't know I was exceeding the speed limit." "How could I have known? " When mom, has a live in boyfriend and says, "I didn't know he's been abusing my child." 😦 "How could I have known? It's not my fault." When a chief of police says, " ... ... None of the leaders reported anything wrong. Nothing. Until after the lawsuit was filed. That's not poor training. That's bad leadership. In a disordered culture. That's Jordan vs New London which says they only hire people who easily adapt to an already broken culture. That's qualified immunity which says, unless you can absolutely, and completely prove otherwise, they're never wrong.

And when I say moved out, I mean we chose to buy our first home elsewhere. I am really sad about that too, honestly. My great grandparents lived there, my family owned successful businesses there, all my best childhood memories are of the front range and many of my adult life. I will not say I was perfect. I will say I feel a lot less anxiety where I am living currently. I don't like to see bored cops sitting on the roadside waiting patiently to tell me how fast I'm going. The 'for-profit-policing' that goes on around there is staggering. The roads are going to shit.. No problem! Our new 'squad cars' are basically indestructible madmax doomsday vehicles that cost hundredsofthousandsofdollars, we're fine... but the river keeps flooding... I know, we will build a giant brand new jail! .. make that two or three.. then a few unnecessary sports stadiums.. presto! Uh, the woods are on fire.. no sweat fella! We will get crews to come from all over the world to help fight a giant fire we totally mismanaged. It'll be fine. That is the problem with the typical satellite midsized municipality, the morons who can't hack it in big city government come here, and the elitist who leave smaller communities or who also couldn't hack it in their close quarters find themselves in places like Fort Collins and Loveland, Boulder.. the list goes on. The ridiculous 'suburban experiment'. What was meant to be something great back in Eisenhowers time or Trumans time has shown itself to have failed the test of time. I don't want walmart and king soopers to be the only God forsaken businesses in town along with an applebees and an apple store and a 7 eleven.. wtf did you guys do to my country?

@@Jojoie Well said, every word rings true. And maybe you could write that book. Or a series of essays??. As another refugee from a certain suburbia, I wanted to mention that inexperienced and uninterested legislators go for big expensive techno fixes every time: squad cars, stadiums, etc. They don't fix roads, forests or floodplain issues partly because they're less "sexy", and because some funding streams make it paradoxically easier to buy expensive toys than to fix longstanding issues. I know because I used to work with some of these people, and you would have to almost set off an explosion to get them to consider common sense solutions.

You need to write that book Joel. I live in Utah and for 2 decades I've heard about the reputation of the Loveland Police!