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Lowering My RS7 Was A Mistake..

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Күн бұрын

My Audi RS7 haven't been on the channel in over 2 months.. here's why.
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@johnde2754
@johnde2754 Жыл бұрын
* ATTN * It seems as if M. Autovlog has pretty much thrown in the towel on his Y-T channel. At one time he cranked content almost daily and NOW . . . the submissions are down to once a month at best. Somehow he has lost ALL dedication and focus. Notification to ABORT strenuously recommended. The demise of M. Autovlog in full force. 🗣️. 👉 📈. 🔍. 🤔
@AutoVlogOfficial
@AutoVlogOfficial Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@jack56794
@jack56794 Жыл бұрын
There is a unsubscribe button if you're not happy no need to slate him because he hasn't uploaded in a while 🤦
@jeffreyrogers8151
@jeffreyrogers8151 Жыл бұрын
​@@AutoVlogOfficial 735k subs, but only 30,000 views on your videos? I'm guessing that's not good.
@jimsss222
@jimsss222 Жыл бұрын
Repetitive/Boring content, stopped watching this channel long time ago. A shame because I kinda like Mike
@willemvandernest3249
@willemvandernest3249 Жыл бұрын
​@@jack56794 exactly. If they can't post anything positive then they must not post anything at all. I like Mike and his uploads. I'm not a Audi fan but his reactions etc makes us relate to him.
@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032
@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032 Жыл бұрын
Your local PA pothole is going to LOVE that Audi...
@danieltromp214
@danieltromp214 Жыл бұрын
This channel is becoming to show fails only instead high standard upgrades we can learn from. This channel after 2 years is going to loos my interest.
@isaacahadjie4866
@isaacahadjie4866 Жыл бұрын
You can launch the rs7 in any mode. If the car isn’t in dynamic mode, just flick gear lever back one more to engage sport gear. To prevent it from bugging down, hold esc button for 4 second to completely turn off traction management.
@user-ct8xc2du2l
@user-ct8xc2du2l Жыл бұрын
Hey guy's...Mike works at Footlocker now!!...Robinson Center mall, I met him last weekend....Super sweet guy.
@arsenalramz
@arsenalramz Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jimsss222
@jimsss222 Жыл бұрын
is he straight pipng the shoes also?
@garybenner605
@garybenner605 Жыл бұрын
I bought a nice pair of dunks off him earlier today!
@jimsss222
@jimsss222 Жыл бұрын
@@garybenner605 you gotta be kiddin?
@jasonbateman-pv8pf
@jasonbateman-pv8pf Жыл бұрын
He DOES work in Moon at the Foot Locker...
@wayneguy6043
@wayneguy6043 Жыл бұрын
RIP. Autovlog
@clevejason
@clevejason Жыл бұрын
May this channel rest in peace
@marcuswashington461
@marcuswashington461 Жыл бұрын
Highly technical vehicles height and tire size set for a reason!! Don't be surprised when air shocks are all jacked up..gotta love autovlog!!
@hamitbe
@hamitbe Жыл бұрын
Where the hell is this guy? Did he give up? It has been over a month and no vid. This blows😕
@wayneguy6043
@wayneguy6043 Жыл бұрын
Better start looking for a real job, this isn’t working out
@clevejason
@clevejason Жыл бұрын
Agreed may he RIP
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kbruce23
@kbruce23 Жыл бұрын
You can individually adjust each air strut/corner in vagcom, it takes like 15 minutes, but your default heights may be slightly off
@danahenderson2121
@danahenderson2121 Жыл бұрын
Did this guy get deported? I think his wife is making him a topper 😂
@WillNonmotivaion
@WillNonmotivaion Жыл бұрын
Cuck / Topperr Mikey Vee
@chadlea6116
@chadlea6116 Жыл бұрын
His wife is definitely boneable.
@chadlea6116
@chadlea6116 Жыл бұрын
I really liked Mike’s channel early on but it’s essentially dead now.
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp Жыл бұрын
Running a daytime job again? 2 weeks, no upload? Are you okay?
@kennedystuart5685
@kennedystuart5685 Жыл бұрын
Yet again nothing done correctly. Do you do any homework on your mods. Brutal. Another vehicle ruined
@benhatting4373
@benhatting4373 Жыл бұрын
You will get so many more viewers. If you get rid of those stupid Ford trucks come on man. I’m danish you’re Swedish wake up McFly.
@seansylvester313
@seansylvester313 Жыл бұрын
This channel went from regular posts to repetitive garbage at irregular intervals. “Let’s see how long it takes to run out of gas”. Let’s feed the car booze. Now you try turning a family sedan into something it’s not. At least when it explodes and it will, you’ll have to fix it.
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
Ya and he comments on one comment with👏👏👏 this channel is a joke more then ever
@garybenner605
@garybenner605 Жыл бұрын
This channel is beyond trash IMO
@WillNonmotivaion
@WillNonmotivaion Жыл бұрын
SAD
@raymondbrannigan7012
@raymondbrannigan7012 Жыл бұрын
13 days and nothing new. May be time to do something else.
@sk8hillzz
@sk8hillzz Жыл бұрын
Mike, I am so sorry your channel is dying :( Truthfully, I would recommend going back to a Ferarri if you feel you can revive the channel. The state it is now the viewership and engagement will be really low. I will be rooting for you to succeed even if you do decide to leave youtube.
@JamesAdair0018965
@JamesAdair0018965 Жыл бұрын
i think he has quit youtube
@gdevelek
@gdevelek Жыл бұрын
People generally like solving problems, you see intent on creating some.
@WillNonmotivaion
@WillNonmotivaion Жыл бұрын
typically twink
@normiesgarage5051
@normiesgarage5051 Жыл бұрын
This guy is an example of what NOT to do to your car. Almost every video is some kind of self inflicted wound.
@jimbuchanan5550
@jimbuchanan5550 Жыл бұрын
He has no respect for cars, for sure.
@isaac.genesis
@isaac.genesis Жыл бұрын
He act so stupid don't know why..
@gascans801
@gascans801 Жыл бұрын
Wife took all his supercar money and wont let him have another one. She has killed the content not Mike. 😢
@kcw9313
@kcw9313 Жыл бұрын
You'd think by now one would learn that lowering anything with an air suspension is sus at best, horror show at worst. Reliability, drivability, performance ALL suffer.
@Matt.e_Black
@Matt.e_Black Жыл бұрын
Highly disagree. 4 years plus on factory air suspension cars with lowering links and flawless performance/operation
@epicon6
@epicon6 Жыл бұрын
It 100% depends on the car model and how it's lowered. It's in no way a given that it fails.
@sander16v11
@sander16v11 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt.e_Black if done correctly yes. But air suspension can be as picky as a bmw n54 lol
@integrafreak1
@integrafreak1 Жыл бұрын
FALSE
@sander16v11
@sander16v11 Жыл бұрын
@@integrafreak1 true
@FalconXE302
@FalconXE302 Жыл бұрын
Have you finally left KZfaq...?
@bradleybruening1569
@bradleybruening1569 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he gave up on his channel
@garybenner605
@garybenner605 Жыл бұрын
Yep...He works at Robinson Mall in Moon
@bradleybruening1569
@bradleybruening1569 Жыл бұрын
@@garybenner605 damn, was kinda hopping he would come Back to make videos on KZfaq
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp Жыл бұрын
​@@garybenner605 no way..mmm
@stanggang754
@stanggang754 Жыл бұрын
Yo AutoVlog did you forget about KZfaq?
@jeremyfowler1519
@jeremyfowler1519 Жыл бұрын
Mike do you think you’ll have to go back to a real job soon? Just curious. I was always afraid to take the KZfaq leap of faith knowing it won’t last. Every show ends.
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
Which him come back and say I was buying a condo and was busy signing the papers😂😂😂😂 like wtf man you can do youtube and buy a condo look at streetspeed717 this guy since early 2020 his content has been going down hardly
@garybenner605
@garybenner605 Жыл бұрын
His wife made him get a job..
@alexl6433
@alexl6433 Жыл бұрын
Dude is desperate for content....Might as well close the channel
@clevejason
@clevejason Жыл бұрын
agreed
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
Agreed to
@MrLoverocket1
@MrLoverocket1 Жыл бұрын
Should have kept the Ferrari. Better than this old man’s car
@GurtejSingh1000
@GurtejSingh1000 Жыл бұрын
Get narrower spacers in the front … ur weight on the driver side is causing the issue …the tire is touching the fender
@rosscarver4546
@rosscarver4546 Жыл бұрын
It should auto-level to compensate for the weight. That’s the beauty of the bags.
@rosscarver4546
@rosscarver4546 Жыл бұрын
Get a Tcu tune to shift higher rpm and you can hit 60 without shifting to third gear…
@arsenalramz
@arsenalramz Жыл бұрын
Channel has died. Goodbye
@clevejason
@clevejason Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing - what is going on here?
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
Since March 2020 this channel has been Steering in the wrong direction plus how does he make enough money to afford the cars he has 😂😂
@arsenalramz
@arsenalramz Жыл бұрын
@@clevejason I don't know but he has no content anymore
@arsenalramz
@arsenalramz Жыл бұрын
@@markhanna7151 it's literally 1 mod a video. Then does pulls with the new mod, talks, talks, talks...video over with. Then does what seems the same comparison videos on his trucks again and again. Dumb videos with the danger ranger again and again. I dunno I used to enjoy the channel back then, I come back for hope but I think that's it...
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
@@arsenalramz I have been Subscribed when he test drove the white 2017 mecedes amg c63s coupe at bobby rahal a week before he ordered his 1st c63 the hydrolocked one that is 6 years bro and I truly think the content was much better back then but now it's absolutely a joke before he got his 2021 f150 he said I will do a full video of the sync 4 system never happened he said he will review will motivations lambo huracan never happened this guy dosent do what he says look at streetspeed 717 same amount of time as a youtuber and he is doing fantastic
@jgus9164
@jgus9164 Жыл бұрын
By chance do you have a recommendation for the spacers and lowering links? I just bought a C7 RS7 and love the look on your car.
@JamesAdair0018965
@JamesAdair0018965 Жыл бұрын
RIP AUTOVLOG I"M CALLING IT
@GaryWrightMusic
@GaryWrightMusic 11 ай бұрын
More than likely rubbing on one side due to the air suspension auto leveling. You have to provide clearance to account for this. Or possibly disable auto leveling for a more static ride.
@jasonbarnes-mg4qe
@jasonbarnes-mg4qe Жыл бұрын
So What if Mikey V does work a regular job in Moon..Why all the hate, and seething from so called "fans?/Subs".. Mike V does work at a "shoe store", so what? What all have you done that makes you so high and mighty? Do you know his title, and salary? Is he a GM? (Six Figures??) We don't know what he's been through.. A KZfaq sensation for years, and years may.. beat on a man...or a mans ego, ..bravado ETC Please leave the chap alone..
@B.English
@B.English Жыл бұрын
We have way too many potholes in Western PA for a lowered car
@evoguy23
@evoguy23 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you should learn how to roll fender or do some of the work yourself to fix the rubbing? You come off as a guy that just keeps taking his car into the mechanic shop to get every minor thing done wihout understanding how the different mods affect eachother.
@davidjenson8107
@davidjenson8107 Жыл бұрын
HI @AutoVlog I've been watching your videos for years now ever since you got that 2015 ford fusion and it's been great over the years. I hope you and your family are doing well and hope to see more videos soon.
@renrut1613
@renrut1613 Жыл бұрын
I agree you shouldn’t have made this video.
@VelvetHammer1
@VelvetHammer1 Жыл бұрын
Lowering a car with an air suspension is begging for problems. The struts are not designed to handle road flaws like potholes with basically no travel. You will break something expensive.
@RcFlashlight
@RcFlashlight Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, I hope that everything is going well! I'm a long time subscriber (since 50k), and I've noticed I haven't seen an AV notification in over a month. I hope that you can make another video very soon! I'll watch anything you upload, doesn't even have to be about cars.
@groberds_2415
@groberds_2415 Жыл бұрын
Every factory vehicle he mods, ends up with problems. Weird
@SH-ly1uy
@SH-ly1uy Жыл бұрын
Because he has amateurs work on them
@alansilverman7543
@alansilverman7543 Жыл бұрын
Need to put some rims up on that car
@kylemeitzler6602
@kylemeitzler6602 Жыл бұрын
Also your tire pressures are pretty high for good launches. Drop them to 35psi and try
@aboali999999aa
@aboali999999aa Жыл бұрын
also it might just solve the rubbing
@FazermanD
@FazermanD Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, maybe its just the extra weight in the drivers seat............ just saying !
@KingSully1996
@KingSully1996 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@firozismail6317
@firozismail6317 Жыл бұрын
Change spacers in front to 10mm, should sort it out or change front lnks to half inch
@JH-oe7hf
@JH-oe7hf Жыл бұрын
This channel was guaranteed to die when the Ferrari got sold.
@WillNonmotivaion
@WillNonmotivaion Жыл бұрын
Mike smells like dookie IMO
@eduardocampos2214
@eduardocampos2214 Жыл бұрын
I had the same issue on my MK6 R and when I took it to an VW specialist, he told me to do alignment, but he said the way we do it, we have to adjust the cross member and the issue stopped, no more rubbing when turning left! If you look at your front tires, one sticks out little more than the other one.
@nomorenonsense
@nomorenonsense Жыл бұрын
Man that hurts. I know you are making content but having a beautiful rs7 that can't correctly operate in dynamic is just silly. Having that little space also doesn't look correct on such a great sedan. This isn't a Ferrari. Go back to stock height, you got your content.
@d.oliveras8012
@d.oliveras8012 Жыл бұрын
being car guys figured you will know what to do and not to do
@yannickbruno2510
@yannickbruno2510 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say!! this is by far one of the best looking RS7s out there, i know you love the look but trust me it still looks fire if you do the half inch! Rock on man, love your vids!
@sithbk0075
@sithbk0075 Жыл бұрын
Get new wheels with correct offset to get that perfect tuck in wheel.
@sergeshkolniy9172
@sergeshkolniy9172 Жыл бұрын
Mike , i had my prevoius rs7 and s6 lowered with links , and rs7 that i have at the moment , you need to remove ftont fender liner fender clips , just get a short philips screw driver , and feel with your fingers in the middle closer to front doors , its a huge clip , just remove them on both sides and 95% of scrapes that you had will dissapear
@sm0k3yb3ar8
@sm0k3yb3ar8 Жыл бұрын
Your rubbing on your fender liner have the same problem on my s7. This unfortunately may be the start of a failing air suspension starts with the level control sensors first then leaking air struts each one from audi is $2500 for the front pay attention to the speedometer if it keeps saying controlling level of car or ride height to low Deff get ready to drop a shit ton of money towards dat suspension. Mine started as slight rubbing after lowering links to full blown passenger side air strut failure woke up and thought I had a flat from how much the car was leaning lol
@johntupper9801
@johntupper9801 Жыл бұрын
The annoyance of the rubbing would take presidency over the look to me.
@bobleone1381
@bobleone1381 Жыл бұрын
Any chance this car was in an accident before you purchased it? If the left front was in a minor "fender bender", it might bee slightly out of alignment........frame....or fender alignment. That would explain why it is only on the left and not bi-lateral.
@Davidmccrossen
@Davidmccrossen Жыл бұрын
It's possible with age of the car that the air bags are dry and cracking. The right one might be leaking air just enough that it's not supporting the cars weight when you make the left turn. I would look into getting all the air bags replaced.
@WadeZA01
@WadeZA01 Жыл бұрын
Is Mike still around? Over a month since his last video.
@jorgereyes5837
@jorgereyes5837 Жыл бұрын
Why lower an all ready nice car and the stock suspension format is thought and made by Audi for the car to ride perfectly, mess with it you will have problems, it was a pretty stupid mod!!
@AMGTT
@AMGTT Жыл бұрын
Perfect night and fitment feel like delete the silver trim and silver mirrors to black
@Jo_Co_Mo_Fo
@Jo_Co_Mo_Fo Жыл бұрын
Cleaning up my subscription list. Noticed that your video posts have come to a grinding halt. I'll be hitting that unsubscribe button but first a thanks for the free entertainment over the years. ✌️
@AEG2OOK
@AEG2OOK Жыл бұрын
No one cares
@MichaelSmith-ov1nf
@MichaelSmith-ov1nf Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the info. Don’t pay attention to those people who say this is not what to do to your car. They only drive stock cars and are scared to mod them 👍
@kashiffkhan6239
@kashiffkhan6239 Жыл бұрын
Go to individual and change settings for engine to dynamic but keep suspension at comfort...
@JH-oe7hf
@JH-oe7hf Жыл бұрын
Spacers are a great way to reduce wheel bearing life.
@MarioJones
@MarioJones Жыл бұрын
Stance looks damn good to me.
@HellcatDreaminJosh
@HellcatDreaminJosh Жыл бұрын
Autovlog Great Video I think your RS7 looks way better with that lowering kit and I hope you manage to fix thst rubbing issue and I can't wait to see more RS7 Content
@KameronKDH
@KameronKDH Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't see what's the point of being that low..... especially in PA
@latenttweet
@latenttweet 10 ай бұрын
Check your caster left vs right
@s.c.1972
@s.c.1972 Жыл бұрын
Don’t listen to the haters. Keep making content!
@TVBCStudios
@TVBCStudios Жыл бұрын
Dont apologize. Im glad you made this video. I have a '21 VW Arteon Premiu Rline which ironically is similar in shape and size to the RS7, but definitely not power. LOL. Just swapped out the stock Continental ProContact tires for Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4's. I'm thinking about putting spacers on with my stock 20" wheels. I would lower it, but I know my wife will scrape the front splitter in a couple areas near our home. (Married Life!)
@loganwatkins97
@loganwatkins97 Жыл бұрын
Everything OK mate
@TacticalToolbox
@TacticalToolbox Жыл бұрын
Dang 75 degrees? It's been in the 60s in Phoenix
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit Жыл бұрын
The growth of this channel has slowed considerably it seems.
@jamesgandia8099
@jamesgandia8099 Жыл бұрын
Drive in comfort mode daily. Put in dynamic just to have fun. Looks good though. Maybe a wheel well trim job?
@NateWithVehicles
@NateWithVehicles Жыл бұрын
You should be able to do the launch control in manual mode and use the paddles to then up shift. In my 2018 Audi RS3 I can do that so I'm assuming you can in the RS7. This should be able to give you a faster 0 - 60 time without it bawging around 60 mph. Hope this helps! The car looks amazing lowered!
@douglowden8802
@douglowden8802 Жыл бұрын
As a W. PA resident I can tell you lowering anything in this pot hole ridden town is not a good idea . Good luck!
@PalaceofPlacentia
@PalaceofPlacentia Жыл бұрын
the car is that low you're not accounting for weight transfer of the actual car going round corners and accelerating. the car needs more hight to compensate for weight differences , whether that is forces on the car or any other that effects the stance and balance
@alanzolotoff6014
@alanzolotoff6014 Жыл бұрын
I lowered my Challenger Hellcat. And I put it back to stock because I didn’t like the way it handled at all !!!
@jack56794
@jack56794 Жыл бұрын
I get it's been a while since a new upload but he may have had a tragic thing happen in his personal life and needs time I hope all is ok.
@markhanna7151
@markhanna7151 Жыл бұрын
I get it but take it this way for the past 3 years he had been like this where he goes for 2 weeks then come and says sorry for no upload who now he might be going through something but he needs to post somethin on ig at least I'll be back soon
@za4117
@za4117 Жыл бұрын
I think the KZfaq algorithim is too hard to predict and make content for; making this content is hard and 36K views barely pays for a tank of gas if that
@nlocnil3602
@nlocnil3602 Жыл бұрын
The point of Individual is so you can customise. I dont see why you cant launch on Individual if you have all yoir settings done right
@poolking36
@poolking36 Жыл бұрын
Check your drop Links in the front .
@jerbele
@jerbele Жыл бұрын
Get a nice transmission tune, if they make one for the 8 speed. I know the S7 definitely has multiple out there but DSG.
@dttwombat5261
@dttwombat5261 Жыл бұрын
Just be careful. It will eventually ruin your steering rod. This happened to my VW.
@Yesitsqk
@Yesitsqk Жыл бұрын
TGK Motorsport makes adjustable links that aren’t plastic …can fine tune them
@nileshacharya3691
@nileshacharya3691 Жыл бұрын
so what happened with Audi and the turbo re-call. Did they come through and do the recall?
@MS-mr4zm
@MS-mr4zm Жыл бұрын
Buying an RS7 was a mistake 😂😂😂
@250rRida
@250rRida Жыл бұрын
You need VCDS. The system is what I use to adjust my height on my VW Phaeton air suspension all thru the computer. Your rs7 can be adjusted in mm using your lowering links. You just need the vcds software.
@cedricrodriguez9474
@cedricrodriguez9474 7 ай бұрын
Some 20mil for the back would be perfect for the front 18
@bronxborn70
@bronxborn70 Жыл бұрын
It makes for good content. I'll allow it.
@raudirs775
@raudirs775 Жыл бұрын
I have a 14 rs7 with spacers and ecs lowering links, I had to take off the 1" lowering links and went to the . 5" ones so that I could launch the car. Stock 21s as well on mine. .5" lowering links made it perfect
@Katchaser101
@Katchaser101 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike you should really tint the windshield...
@robertspottedowl1689
@robertspottedowl1689 Жыл бұрын
Does it have those shift computers like the benz dies
@jdmteggy2388
@jdmteggy2388 Жыл бұрын
roll ur fenders and do launch control in manual mode so u shift it will help ur 0-60
@gabrielnorthrup8761
@gabrielnorthrup8761 Жыл бұрын
let your launch control settle longer, its not settling right. the DSG has a fantastic launch control if you let it figure out what its doing first
@rosscarver4546
@rosscarver4546 Жыл бұрын
Rs7 doesn’t have dsg, zf8
@arsenalramz
@arsenalramz Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next mod on the rs7! Hoping it's carbon fibre wing mirrors. You can do some pulls after and let us know how much faster it goes from 0-60 for the remainder of the video
@za4117
@za4117 Жыл бұрын
I think the KZfaq Algorithim is too hard to figure out; 36K views on a channel with 700K+ subscribers barely pays for a tank of gas.
@Justme0495
@Justme0495 Жыл бұрын
"Scrapes" *Rubbing!* Your videos are just hilarious! Love it! Very entertaining ;)
@TheSlugger76
@TheSlugger76 Жыл бұрын
Don’t lower it go back to stock
@kevinike7319
@kevinike7319 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more RS content. I currently have a C6 Z06 and contemplating upgrading to an RS7. I went up to LW Automotive this past weekend. Test drove the performance one. I can't decide.
@coreyedward8335
@coreyedward8335 Жыл бұрын
I have a C7.5 2016 s6 and absolutely love it. It probably could give the z06 a run for its money for a second or two
@manns4
@manns4 Жыл бұрын
Damn 24 deg celsius in february :O and it's deep winter here in Estonia
@msimrow
@msimrow Жыл бұрын
Try it without LC and TC off. Then brake boost it before you let the brake off.
@rob77ist
@rob77ist Жыл бұрын
Buying a RS7 In the 1st place was the mistake
@kylemeitzler6602
@kylemeitzler6602 Жыл бұрын
Got To the half inch or try some 10mm up front and put the 15mm on back
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