LOWEST Stress and BEST Work Life Balance. Cyber Security, IT, or Software Engineering??? (2023)
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In this video, we dive deep into the world of tech-related careers and explore the factors that influence work-life balance, stress levels, salary, and job security. If you're considering a career in the tech industry, this video will provide valuable insights to help you make informed decisions.
We begin by discussing the field of cyber security, sharing personal experiences and insights into its work-life balance and stress levels. While cyber security offers decent work-life balance, it often involves managing risk and compliance, which can be stressful due to factors beyond your control.
Next, we explore roles like Cloud Support Engineering and Help Desk positions. These jobs come with varying levels of stress and workloads, and we discuss the pros and cons of each, helping you understand what to expect if you choose these paths.
Moving on, we delve into knowledge-based roles, including IT Operations, System Engineering, and Cloud Administration. These roles offer more control over your work and project-based tasks, making them potentially less stressful with better work-life balance.
Finally, we highlight coding and software engineering as a top choice for those seeking high salaries, good work-life balance, and lower stress levels. We advise against consulting firms that may overwork employees, emphasizing the importance of a healthy work-life balance.
Throughout the video, we share personal experiences and anecdotes to provide real-world context and advice. So, whether you're just starting your tech career or considering a change, this video will help you make an informed decision based on your priorities and goals.
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@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
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@BackdoorNinja31337 Жыл бұрын
Spam much?
@ktgray2884 Жыл бұрын
What about manual QA engineers?
@Brahman2709 Жыл бұрын
How does data analyst/data scientist compare?
@sjames916 Жыл бұрын
I've worked as a DevOps Engineer, Cloud Engineer, Cybersecurity Engineer, to now in Security auditing. Auditing is very low stress. Just policies, security control assessments, but it's very controlled. It's boring, but easy to me and you can still get the high pay as a DevOps engineer without the tech stuff lol.
@BadWeatherfreak Жыл бұрын
How can I get started?
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this James, I've heard from a couple people that auditing is low stress. I can start recommending this to people haha
@myway8950 Жыл бұрын
Do you miss the tech stuff? because it is so fast paced compared to Auditing
@sjames916 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshMadakor yep, very very low stress. I don't mind boring work that pays me six figures lol.
@sjames916 Жыл бұрын
@@myway8950 Not really. I can see being in technical roles for most of my career makes auditing extremely easy for me because I was on the other side once upon a time implementing the security controls. I don't really miss "fast paced" because I was stressed lol. Always on call and working long hours. I like being in the position of telling someone something is not implemented and kindly asking them to fix it lol. I prefer boring, high paying, and working remote. This allows me to work on other things outside of my main job.
@Ramel34 7 ай бұрын
In IT the word "stress" is usually related to not knowing how to resolve an issue. The more knowledge you have the less stressful it becomes. I remember going from computer to computer doing tasks back when I first started. Now I look back and get upset because a simple script could have saved me so much time and "stress".
@Aplethoraofconvos 7 ай бұрын
lol! that makes alot of sense
@liljzz8621 7 ай бұрын
script?? wym by script. (i dont know anything abt cyber)
@Ramel34 7 ай бұрын
@@liljzz8621 A bash script. Example...let's say your boss asks you to add Outlook to 80 computers. You can either go computer to computer and download the software or write a PSEXEC script and automate the task. Automation is the key.
@joaoraphael5423 5 ай бұрын
@@liljzz8621 scripts are lines of code that automate a task, people usually write scripts on repetitive tasks
@krm5693 3 ай бұрын
There's beauty in the process 🤝
@KevtechITSupport Жыл бұрын
helldesk can be stressful depending on the company, manager and coworkers. It's not that bad but avoid toxic environments.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Big true on this one, it really depends :), ty for the comment!
@codymarshall5015 Жыл бұрын
I just got my first helpdesk job recently but am still training haven't started on tickets yet. It's remote so I feel the perk of being at home is awesome, once I start doing tickets will it feel awful? I can't imagine it's more stressful than when I used to work in the medical field which feels like you're always rushing through tons of patients and stressful situations everyday while understaffed.
@KevtechITSupport Жыл бұрын
@Cody Marshall it depends on the company. You have to experience the job to see how it is.
@plusgirlbworld Жыл бұрын
I just started in help desk too and it’s stressful, we support so many things and get lots of backlash from other tiers and depts that haven’t gotten back to users.
@superplusextra9634 Жыл бұрын
Very true, started my first help desk in June for a third party IT and the amount of hassle to take calls and check creds and follow up task within a few hours is what drove me find another job quickly. The new job I started in October is way better in terms of manager and coworker being helpful and giving you time to do said tasks.
@rdean150 Жыл бұрын
Been a software engineer for over a decade. It pays well but is often high stress. Work life balance suffers as well. But it all really depends on the company, team, and project.
@santaclaus447 11 ай бұрын
As someone who is embarking on their IT journey, I really appreciate your perspective.
@AdrianLamb Жыл бұрын
I find it also greatly varies on the place also. I work in healthcare IT and the work-life balance is great, although I don't get paid as well as if I were working the same position at a FAANG company - I also deal with much, much less stress and more authority. Scarce resources and shitty computers aside, I've worked for 4 hospital systems now and all of them have a big focus on enjoying your job (Although the execs are clueless).
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
"Although the excecs are clueless lmfao" thanks for sharing :)
@Sparkle-ey7iw Жыл бұрын
What is your role if you don’t mind me asking? I an in healthcare and want to get into tech
@WitikoAmor 9 ай бұрын
Healthcare IT is generally not good w/l balance. Everything is urgent. STAT or affecting patient care. If you're in a dept that's mon fri 9 to 5 sure.
@jamellcarter5299 5 ай бұрын
I heard this exact thing from someone in real life abt the healthcare sector
@innocentrage1 Жыл бұрын
Jobs with the least stress is anything remote that doesn't deal with customer service. Help desk sucks because you have to be at your desk the whole shift if calls come in. My current cyber job is great because we have a great team and have one person each week take care of issues/tickets so that's the most stressful for that week but the rest of the time you just work on projects and just get your work done and no one cares how long you work
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. honestly project work is the best, especially if you are quick and efficient ^^
@Lanae8199 Жыл бұрын
What type of Cyber Security are you involved in? I am at the beginning of my IT journey, and eventually I would like to work in a remote position that does not have a lot of stress involved, and allows me to be productive.
@OiVinn-eq1ml Жыл бұрын
I have been wanting to get into SOC but reading your post makes me rethink that lol
@skateivanfamous 8 ай бұрын
Whats your position in your current cyber job ?
@Anw120 Ай бұрын
What is your position? What type of industry?
@blackswan7568 Жыл бұрын
0:09 HEY! That's me😁 Never had a question directly answered by a video. Thanks a lot, Josh👍 Edit: I totally get what you're saying about having control in your job and not having to rely on others. As a college student right now, I always hate having to do group work for that very reason!
@film_magician 9 ай бұрын
Such a great question
@JimmyWallen Жыл бұрын
Great video, Josh! As someone who works in cybersecurity as a SIEM Engineer/Admin for an MSSP, this resonates with me so much. I've been in this role for a year but it feels like double that amount of time already. The stress has been immense and the tickets are endless. Within just my first 4 months I watched 11 engineers quit out of a ~35 person team. I quickly went from being the new guy to now being one of the more "senior" engineers. We manage the security for hundreds of medium and large companies so I will often have 30 tickets/projects in my queue every week which makes it a challenge to manage communications, prioritize projects, and complete tickets before more get assigned since much of the work requires communication from others to complete. The pay has been nice considering I had no cybersecurity experience prior and had never touched a SIEM. Started out at 70k and got a 30k raise after 6 months and expecting another raise soon. The experience has been extremely valuable but this is not something I can sustain long term. I'm still new in this career so I'm not sure yet what I would want to or could pivot into next. Getting into coding sounds nice but is also intimidating.
@sexiig4lyfe Жыл бұрын
I want to switch from Env. Eng into the cyber security engineering industry and STEM genre in general. Any advice pls??
@SunDogGod Жыл бұрын
70k to 100k with no experience?! Damn I’m jealous good stuff man I’m at 50k in a support position my 2nd one really first one was 30k, looking to upgrade soon
@Mohammedmalsaid Жыл бұрын
Was it hard to get the job initially with no experience? Any tips or advice on how a noob to the industry can get in?
@fabianortiz1712 10 ай бұрын
Sounds awesome man, like the kind of thing I’d like. Im taking the google cybersecurity certificate course and the security+ after. Any other suggestions? I have no background in IT, I’m a union Ironworker, 12 years in the industry but due to lack of work and a belief that the industry is only going to get worse i made this decision, which has been in my mind for sometime.
@jay_hovita 9 ай бұрын
Nice! What was you path in getting into CS with no experience? Degrees? Any certs?
@Nurr0 4 ай бұрын
Thanks this is helpful, security is interesting but I really don't know I'd handle the stress well the more I look into it.
@larnizzo91 Жыл бұрын
I’m subbing on the sole factor that you recapped everything at the end of the video lol
@ganyrehs 6 ай бұрын
To me it depends on the environment that you're working at. Small vs large companies, the size of the IT department, resources to go to, and so on. Small companies working in IT you're probably going to wear a lot of hats dealing with various kinds of issues that could lead to a lot of stress.
@codenameWAK 5 ай бұрын
This was awesome... Thanks!
@gamesboy123able 6 ай бұрын
Absolute banger video!
@lucasribolli8960 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it depends on a lot of things. On my case, I am moving from coding to pentesting (I always had a passion on hacking field, since I was a teenager). My job as a software engineer was a hell. Work on a trash code, with horribles deadlines, being underpaid and cannot have any energy in the end of the day. I had the worse experience on my life, breaking a production app with a bug that could not be reproduceble. I mean, work on frontline as a software engineering is for me way more stressing than analyzing issues. I hope I find myself on this new field.
@orlandogarcia4403 11 ай бұрын
Super helpful Video, I have 6 years in Front-end dev, and I was wondering If there were other Tech areas I could be a in a better position, now I can see I am already in one of the best ones lol
@evanmiles7252 Жыл бұрын
I would say working help desk at a MSP can be high stress depending on the size of the MSP. And work life balance can suffer. For instance, if you work for a smaller MSP you are on call a lot. My last job I was on call for all of our clients 1 week a month. The MSP I am at now is a lot larger so were only on call 1 week a year.
@marvinmanalastas7093 Жыл бұрын
Great info, this helped me make a choice between Cloud eng and Soft dev.
@marvinmanalastas7093 Жыл бұрын
@@piinkpai Software dev, was for the better work life balance.
@mellol1628 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately, depends on company’s culture and industry. The jobs that prioritize anything close to 24/7 365 support are usually more demanding of your personal time. The Jobs that are literally fixing problems all the time can be stressful. The jobs where your wearing multiple hats tend to be both stressful and demanding. I could go on.
@Cl8tn0822 Жыл бұрын
Great video and very helpful!
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@howardbonds5106 Жыл бұрын
Tier II/Tier3 is most likely the best work life balance...pay is between 50 and 110k and you can be off by 4pm and headed home...very little after hours work...sometimes you have snippy users who need your help...but that generally never turns into a major concern as long as you are professional with them..
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Yeah I can def see this. A bit high-ish up, but still an individual contributor :)
@jg1000c 7 ай бұрын
I do automation for patching and vulnerability remediation. I agree with you, mostly low stress and self paced.
@bicdeez007 4 ай бұрын
Do you have to do a lot of programming in your job role and if so which language do you need to know? Thank you in advance
@jg1000c 4 ай бұрын
@@bicdeez007 I do some, python and powershell.
@thatkarachikid 8 күн бұрын
are you a sys admin?
@franciscoortiz8531 Жыл бұрын
I found doing IT for the Army not/hardly stressful (surprising I know). Most of the stress comes from doing actual Army stuff that doesn't necessarily include your job.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, that's pretty much what I've been reading. I considered joining for a long time, but I was too much of a B to go through with it, so props to you :)
@234sthomas Жыл бұрын
@@JoshMadakor How does data science compare? Also, AI/Machine Learning roles?
@zx6r1320 Жыл бұрын
Thats kinda the secret almost any gov job pays will and doesn’t require nearly as much work as say work in the public/private industry government just loves to waste money 😂
@masonmcgahey7 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video concept. I love IT but as I've picked up new hobbies a stress level/work life balance is very important.
@eman0828 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I don't think there isn't any roles in IT that doesn't have stress. Even when you start getting into Tier 3 as a Network Engineer or Systems Administrators, the stress level increases once some thing breaks as you are constantly putting out fires being on-call 24/7. I work in Tier 2 role above Help Desk as there is some level of stress meeting a quota of closed tickets a day or once some thing breaks that's urgent, you can't go home until is fixed. I also facilitate Tier 3 with server and network issues in the server room with hands and eyes even after hours when infrastructure issues occurs.
@Hellioss89 Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for that comment. Just one question what do you think about the same topic in networking but applied to call center?. Cisco TAC for example...
@pixelll1783 2 ай бұрын
I'm 17 looking to get into coding but i'm looking for a field where I can have a life outside my job ive seen a lot of videos and it seems even when they are not on the job they are still working to understand I dont mind the stress while im working but i would like to have a work life balance where I can be a family man and have time for my family
@stevendeclercq3566 Жыл бұрын
this was great! thank you for being concise. took only about 5 minutes of my time vs videos i have ready in other tabs 10-15 minutes
@S-DIDI 6 ай бұрын
I worked for almost four years as help desk and the stress is seasonal. Also a lot depends on what size of the organization you work. It can be pretty stressful
@Anw120 Ай бұрын
Any tips what to look for?
@JohnSeabourn 7 ай бұрын
Cloud Support Engineering sounds more fun because everything is challenging, and you don't just do monotonous repeat tasks like on a helpdesk.
@antoniogrant8 Жыл бұрын
Wow love this vid, I got an admissions overview at 10am today ironically for a IT program literally. Excited yet curious to what’s to come, anybody into software engineering? Great content Josh
@Geomaverick124 Жыл бұрын
I've worked IT Support and Help desk like roles in the beginning and Frontend Development has been the least stressful...not having to run people down for access or info or waiting on others to do your task makes it a lot less stressful
@laramecodes3520 Жыл бұрын
Facts! I worked HelpDesk for years. I recently transitioned to IAM Engineer role and my stress levels are a whole lot lower.
@ArchaicCreationsbp Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, how did you transition from it support to frontend development?
@Geomaverick124 Жыл бұрын
@@ArchaicCreationsbp just by learning the languages that were needed, building projects, and practicing interviews. It took about a year
@Geomaverick124 Жыл бұрын
@@ArchaicCreationsbp Honestly if you were going that route I would take coursera's Frontend and backend certificates and do javascript masteries free bootcamps on KZfaq and post about them on Social Media or look up coding phase on KZfaq and take his email developer bootcamp course...Email development is like a starter job to help get into web dev
@danigan9564 Жыл бұрын
@@laramecodes3520how do you get into IAM with no experience?
@avaliausd. Жыл бұрын
Also, it's easier to get a job in IT with an associate's degree than to get a job as a developer or cyber security analyst. I am in school for Computer Science, but I might change my major to IT, get the associate's, then go back and work on Computer Science. My brother got his associate's in IT last year and he got hit up by a recruiter around two weeks after graduating. Now he gets calls non stop. It's different with cyber and programming. They generally want you to have a bachelor's degree along with projects to prove you know what you are doing. Considering that I don't live with my parents and I split an apartment with my brother, I need to take the route thats going to make me money faster first.
@zx6r1320 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t think thats necessarily true. I think having project’s or certs is mainly what they look at and the thing is theres more and more IT jobs then they can fill all you need to do is spam applications and one of them will hit because the IT field will be forever growing. Getting a As and BS in computer programing is pretty challenging way more than IT i would say
@delanescott7872 Жыл бұрын
what positions are the recruiters trying to pitch to your bother?
@selim3248 10 ай бұрын
Are u working on cyber or software sector? Which field do you work on
@cptndunsel2670 8 ай бұрын
It is worth noting that the Software market is crashing right now. That isn't to say that there are no jobs, but it is much much harder to get a job at the entry level. IT doesn't seem to have as many entry level roadblocks right now.
@Zoids-bf6op 7 ай бұрын
Watching this as I’m about to venture into cloud admin from game dev. Hope I made the right choice
@Ashleycreates_content Жыл бұрын
There’s no such thing as zero stress anything! Thank you all that’s my time! Goodnight and have a safe journey home.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@justinwilliams7595 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to work help desk don’t work tier 1 as that is the most stressful in my opinion just based on my experience. Tier 2 or 3 tends to be less stressful because you are usually not getting back to back calls. And don’t get me started on not being on the phone when you’re supposed to in the case of a restroom break.
@eman0828 Жыл бұрын
Those are Sub-Tier levels with in Help Desk. You are still on the Help Desk as a Level 1 role. Tier 2 is Desktop Support and Tier 3 is the Network and Sysadmins.. You can technically skill help Desk all together and jump to Tier 2.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience ^^
@143jeg Жыл бұрын
I don't feel like cyber security fits so well into one box... you could be doing vulnerability management, pen testing, incident response, identity access management, firewall administration, security awareness training, or any combination of those and more. The level of stress is as much about the way the organization operates as it is your role within the organization too it seems.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel you are 100% correct about this. I just tried to share my personal experiences but for sure it depends on what/where and stuff. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts ^^
@143jeg Жыл бұрын
@@JoshMadakor Thanks for the reply, Josh! I do agree with your analysis of these roles in a more general sense. With the people I know in cyber security roles though and even in the roles I've been in myself, there seems to be quite the range in level and type of stress associated.
@BackdoorNinja31337 Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with alot of what's said. I've done alof of cybersecurity and some cloud and its been pretty low stress. Help desk got the most calls and least respect from people. I'm currently a pentester and its low stress and fully remote.
@143jeg Жыл бұрын
@@BackdoorNinja31337, clearly there are exceptions. I was also in a pretty low stress cyber security job for several years. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have left for more money. I still think Josh's comparison holds true within the companies I have worked at.
@Lanae8199 Жыл бұрын
@@BackdoorNinja31337 I Came across a video this morning about Cyber Security and Vulnerability testing. He mentioned that you don’t necessarily need certifications but going through a training program would help you land a job. What are your thoughts?
@diervonsaton6 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, for your advice mate. 🤓
@shafialanower3820 Жыл бұрын
Do entry level cloud jobs exists? Id imagine cloud could be one of the few careers where personal projects are highly valuable if you don’t have experience. Also , Happy Thanksgivings to the InfoSec 🐐
@exohive5608 9 ай бұрын
Currently work as a NOC Engineer, but the actual work is basically help desk. It’s stressful in the fall because the company is busy during that time (printing). But it’s alright during the spring.
@nahidsarker69 7 ай бұрын
I don't know much about cyber but what is NOC and what do they do bro???
@miclappas Жыл бұрын
isnt there a difference between working as a cloud support engineer and just regular cloud engineering?
@evans_northwest Жыл бұрын
Based on what I have worked, I feel that Cyber GRC may be the least “stressful”. However, it gets to be soul-sucking, in my opinion. As you said, you also have to rely on others doing their job, which can also be hit and miss. Obviously, a LAN Admin or Vulnerability Management position may be more “stressful” but I ultimately had a better sense of pride and job satisfaction in those roles, where I troubleshot actual problems and made things happen. Some people might crave a boring, “stable” job. Good for them. Some like new challenges. Just because a job is easy, doesn’t mean you’ll be happier.
@MT89259 Жыл бұрын
How do you get into a cyber GRC role with no experience?
@evans_northwest Жыл бұрын
@@MT89259 you can start at a helpdesk somewhere, and they likely have a "compliance" type of group within. Ask around.
@MT89259 Жыл бұрын
@@evans_northwest ty
@epicotakugamer4930 9 ай бұрын
People tend to like boring jobs because they have other things going on in their life outside their jobs.
@mikepifer7558 Жыл бұрын
Depends more on the business you work for more than the type of IT position you have.
@StevenDoesStuff Жыл бұрын
I'm currently helpdesk and the stressful part is when there's nothing to do lmao. I work at a bank and they gave me the corner of the office with no cubicle so everyone can see that I'm doing absolutely nothing at times and I have to make up some psudo-important stuff to pull up on my screen.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Haha, I feel you on that. Honestly if I were you, I would just start coding a lot of study something where it looks like I'm doing work. lmao. Get a lot of skill/certs :O). In fact, that's what I did in my previous job
@shameermulji Жыл бұрын
I’m in exact scenario as you. On a side note, I’m not sure I want to deal with service tickets for the remainder of my career. I was initially looking into cloud computing but now I’m not so sure.
@Amor09876 Жыл бұрын
😂
@nahidsarker69 7 ай бұрын
Can u plz say what skill or how many years of experience someone needs to land a job like this?
@phaledax3661 Жыл бұрын
I started out thinking my cybersecurity is not all that stressful at all, and then you started listing why it's stressful and I'm thinking. "oh yeah, I guess there is that. Oh.. yeah that too..." lol I guess it is a mindset, The biggest aspect is you can get in real trouble when someone else doesn't perform a task correctly. Also compliance work when your assessor sometimes does not understand how a system works and adds requirements that are not plausible or sensical for that type of system. You get stuck in a loop.
@allways8782 Жыл бұрын
From the research that I've done, being a QA engineer, either manual or automation, but especially manual, is low stress. Its actually been voted the number two least stressful Tech job in the country, via Forbes. I'm considering pursuing it
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Sounds promising tbh
@elise4517 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is true. I've been doing software testing for the past 5 years now, at both enterprise and startup companies. Prior to that, started in IT as tech support and did some DevOps work for a cybersecurity startup. I'd say it depends on the company. Yes, as a QA engineer the stress is lower and work-life balance better than most cybersec and IT jobs. BUT there's also crap that comes with QA work too (ie: needing to test multiple features/user stories within a short timeframe, difficult managers, toxic work environment, etc). I agree with Josh - jobs that involve coding do tend to be more relaxed (except for DevOps lol). Best wishes on your QA journey!
@intentionalgreatness Жыл бұрын
@@elise4517 how did you get started in software testing? I've been doing a udemy course but not sure what else to do.
@elise4517 Жыл бұрын
@@intentionalgreatness An opportunity presented itself at my company when i was in tech support. The dev manager knew i wanted to be a developer (at that time) and there was a QA opening. He thought i was great for the role, so I switched to QA. Prior to that, I had no idea about QA. For me, i learned everything on the job. If that's something you're interested in doing, watch a few youtube videos or the udemy course is fine. Learn the fundamentals to get your foot in the door as a manual tester and go from there.
@allways8782 Жыл бұрын
@@elise4517 Hello Elise, I just saw your message, so pardon the delayed response. Thank you so much for your insight! Difficult managers and or toxic work environments (if you are remote) is not that common, correct? Do you have certain questions that you ask during the interview process that can help you weed out a toxic work environment, even if it's remote? Thank you.
@flashketchum368 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, great video. Just want to let you know that the term “go postal” is taboo in the mail delivery world. It’s a reference to a disgruntled USPS employee shooting up a post office…
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that :(
@failingdisciple938 Жыл бұрын
I still like and use the term
@lour7452 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to take a chill pill and give people the benefit of the doubt. This world has become so hypersensitive taking all the fun out of just speaking. Thank you Josh for doing a great job.
@JayS64 Жыл бұрын
As a person thinking of transitioning I've been waiting for some experienced person to answer this question. 0:56 So GRC is more stressfull?? wow that's surprising. Was looking at auditor, QA, vulnerability specialist, Information Compliance Security and a few others. Want something i can go at my own pace, with a fairly consistent educational process and application. I wish your answer was more in depth, but thanks a lot. I'll give your coding vid a look.
@mampenza Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I want to make a course on being a front end developer and this video was greatly helpful
@galleon8129 11 ай бұрын
Software Dev is very stressful especially if the company is not organised; knowledge base is not really what you depend on but you’ll have to think outside the box. I would say Business Analysis, Scrum Master and IT Project Support roles are the least stressful.
@AlexJames-jv3em 5 ай бұрын
Yup, being a software developer is like being a research scientist but without the respect and glamor (and usually without the pay): You're daily having to teach yourself something new just to get the job done, and there's a lot of trial and error and shots in the dark. Sometimes you discover late that you've been blindly barking up a wrong tree, and you have to start over from scratch on a project.
@sketchwithjess Жыл бұрын
Management only care about metrics if your resolving tech issues in real-time on the phone you must meet the metrics, if not your fired, very stressful. You can not meet metrics eventhough you solve the issue and left a positive experience with the user. I would imagine working on support tickets is alot less tressful. I don't know the metrics for IT support ticket work.
@cr7neymar908 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. You should make a video on the general roadmaps for the highest paying jobs in IT
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Thank so much! Idk if I'm qualified to make that kinda video lol. I can think about it though, I think people would really like to watch it. I will put it in my TODOs
@Velosity696 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, which role is more stressful ? Project manager or a software engineer ?
@g-prince3375 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification. I'm curious to know which category cloud solutions architect associate falls under? Would it be coding/dev?
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Probably Engineering would be my guess, where you are designing a high-level solution. That's what comes to mind when I see "architect"
@Brucee_97 8 ай бұрын
5:20 thank you for this 😎
@aeseiri1618 Жыл бұрын
Say I'm a bit of the opposite. I do best in roles where I can lead, delegate, coordinate, and support teams in success. I would be far less happy in a pure text solo role. I could do it, but would be less motivated and happy, so that would make me stressed.
@danigan9564 Жыл бұрын
Is vulnerability management stressful? What do they do?
@monojit6820 2 күн бұрын
Cried a little when you said consulting firm. You understand our pain Josh, thank you lol
@totiriel6079 Жыл бұрын
So stressful if you dont have the money. Once you are financially stable then you can choose and decide not to work to avoid stress.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, this is why I recommend people save up a large chunk of coins
@generallateef3467 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Where do you think solution architect Or cloud Or Devops fits in?
@JoshMadakor 2 ай бұрын
I think solutions architect is probably lower stress than Devops. Solutions Architect would likely be architecting solutions/designs where as devops, by nature, deals directly with operations. Anything with operations has the possibility of stressful/time constrained situations.
@TKGZONE Жыл бұрын
are you working remotely in japan working for company in another country? I kinda wanted to do that, just wondering how you manage to let your company do that if u do
@husnainfayaz Ай бұрын
Hello Everyone! I am a devops engineer, I have worked for almost 6 years in different tech companies! Honestly I found devops very stressfull as it is very fast paced , multi tasking , Rnd , always learning new things , working/troubleshooting new issues , so to sum up very stressfull role even after back to home after work mind stucks and thinking of the issue which was never resolved during work , companies should introduce unlimited time off , so that employee can relax , and when I think of taking some time off I become stress full that manager gonna be asking too much questions and explanations like for how long and what made you streesed etc I am continuously looking for something either in IT sector or may be a complete new career means non IT which can be relaxing! Any suggestions?
@alenk4682 Жыл бұрын
Would you know of any companies that are known good to work for? Or companies known to hire chat agents, not having to talk all day long on the phone? Like Fortune 500 ones. Talking all day is exhausting.
@Candice144 6 ай бұрын
I’m almost done with school in December. I honestly am not sure what I may go after first. I should have a couple of certs as well once done. But coming from a background in nursing and in my 40’s now. I could handle the stress but don’t necessarily prefer a high stress job. But it seems like just starting off I may have to take the high stress jobs until I can gain work experience. Or is there another route?
@yon1623 Жыл бұрын
someone almost got me to switch to Cyber today. I think i will stick to dev
@nappy203 Жыл бұрын
Shoot. I did not know that cyber is high stress.... I just spent like 7-8 months doing cyber in a bootcamp. I wish I knew that prior to my starting in this field...
@Eze_Cloud Жыл бұрын
Hey! Cybersecurity Consulting isn’t too bad!
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Damn really? I've only done infrastructure consulting and it sucked haha. Good to know ^^
@michaelc6031 Жыл бұрын
What are great help desk business I can work for?
@joeybisconti9670 Жыл бұрын
Is an Information Security Analyst the same as working in Cybersecurity? Does it involve coding? What is required to get your foot in the door?
@Frissdas1207 Жыл бұрын
I switched from cs to sysadmin. Can confirm, much lower stress.
@geddon436 Жыл бұрын
you switched from cyber? or computer science?
@Frissdas1207 6 ай бұрын
@@geddon436yes, CyberSec.
@SmokeAlarmBeeps Жыл бұрын
Whoever you see falling asleep at their desk is the low stress job
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Lmao, haven't thought about it this way.
@josephdemarco2643 10 күн бұрын
Where would QA or QE fall into that list? I'm assuming Best pay, probably bottom. Lowest Stress probably between coding and it.
@JoshMadakor 10 күн бұрын
Good question! I haven't done QA before and I haven't been around them enough so I don't have a good sense.
@myway8950 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts about the CASP+? Is it worth doing it? I am kinda in a doubtful situation because I am not sure if I should go towards a cyber security or Devops route. This decision would really depend on the certs I pursue. I feel like cyber security is a bit easier path compared to devops as there is a lot of automation to do. Competition is also quite high in Devops compared to cyber security. Lowest stress comes with a lot of coding practices I guess?
@BackdoorNinja31337 Жыл бұрын
Find your dream job. Look across those jobs on indeed or monster etc. That will guide you to what certs or skills companies want.
@lukemarshall118 6 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about doing something an IT because I want something that is going to provide me the money and time to pursue music on the side
@user-np8fo9ju1i 11 ай бұрын
What do you think about Data Analytics?
@AndreB777 20 күн бұрын
Im watching this because im currently stressed out and i work at one of the big four consultancies 😂😅
@braiinworms Жыл бұрын
What do you think about pentesting/ethical hacking? I always assumed it would be lower stress than other cybersecurity jobs but I don't know very much about it.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Hey Annie, My thoughts on pen testing...Roll in, break some stuff, write a report, and let the nerd client worry about fixing it and then dip. lmao. I haven't officially don pen testing before, but it seems like a pretty sweet deal and low stress
@hugejackedman3447 Жыл бұрын
I've been kinda looking into it myself. So far the majority of people tend to say that it's all fun and games till you have to do the report writing part! lol And it can be in various forms such as an actual "physical" penetration gaining access to buildings or restricted areas that require special access etc. Even saw a video some months ago that involved actual "lockpicking" a door. Network penetration of course is what's most commonly thought of which is exactly what it sounds like without going into too much detail. There are many who also differentiate between "Pentesting" and "Ethical Hacking". I recommend checking out: "The Cyber Mentor", "Hackersploit", and "John Hammond" to name a few of the most popular experts on the subject.
@codymarshall5015 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, would you say your current role is more front end? Or more focused on something like powershell scripting and automation? Also what would you say your role title is technically called? I couldn't really find "cloud automation engineer" on indeed but found more like "cyber security engineer" or "cloud engineer" postings.
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Hey Cody, Check out this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ2YmcqBrJiliJ8.html I would say my role is a mixture of back end and front end. Lost of moving data around (ETL), then more recently I also got assigned some front-end responsibilities as well. But the FE is REALLY weird for my current job. I'm managing some web app called DocAssemble which uses python and YAML to control the front end. Very weird. All back end stuff is in Python too, with some occasional PowerShell
@codymarshall5015 Жыл бұрын
@Josh Madakor - Tech, Education, Career Sorry I asked this twice haha. You answered me in discord about this recently.
@tebogomodingoane3967 11 ай бұрын
I’m a software engineer, im always stressed
@dodedodedo22 Жыл бұрын
yeah I'm an InfoSec analyst, get scheduled with a good 12 hours of audits/RAs every day and its miserable. red teaming doesn't look bad though but yeah thats what everyone wants to be .
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Exactly my experience and exactly my thoughts on offsec. Roll in, break some stuff, write a report, and let the nerd client worry about fixing it lmao
@fobmaster Жыл бұрын
If you know some web dev... the app sec field of cyber is pretty good... you're not fixing the code... you're pointing out flaws in the code for the developers to fix
@klarenxeblood9615 Жыл бұрын
What about PCI Compliance for low stress high earning or Robotic Process Automation
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
I hated PCI so that made it high stress for me, but if you are fine with it, it's probably low-ish stress haha. IDK about robots though honestly :(
@timmyark875 Жыл бұрын
I need a job like that
@kazi1 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Hey lol, what is up?
@BobF510 5 ай бұрын
I'm drawn to the depth of this material. A book with comparable insights changed my perspective immensely. "A Life Unplugged: Reclaiming Reality in a Digital Age" by Theodore Blaze
@arzoopervaiz9541 4 ай бұрын
The answer is π/4 .
@kwsrchoudhury Жыл бұрын
Im trying to switch from Incident Response
@bigwoke686 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Pentesting/Ethical Hacking?
@shreyastambe4897 Жыл бұрын
Hello Josh could you please make a video on Thesis/dissertation i am about to complete my masters in information security but stuck with completing my thesis and facing multiple roadblocks. It will be of great help if you can throw some light
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Hey Shreyas, I didn't have to do a thesis, but I did do a capstone. My topic was implementing a vulnerability management program on distributed government systems. I can just show it to you if you want to email me at the email in my channel :)
@shreyastambe4897 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshMadakor thanks for replying. Ya sure i will email you. This will certainly help me 👍
@shreyastambe4897 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshMadakor i can't find your email address:(
@MickParker-pu9fp 16 күн бұрын
Cybersecurity are stressful except the auditor roles.
@mr.smiles9948 7 ай бұрын
System admin is more stressful than a system analyst in my opinion
@beaugetostarmixedbag210 6 ай бұрын
What about penetration testers, and ethical hackers?
@bedheaded1488 5 ай бұрын
What do think about digital engineering?
@bellegraves 10 ай бұрын
Sorry for asking questions on a video released 7 months ago, and really if anyone sees this question, feel free to answer. Soft skills aside, which position would you recommend for the least amount of human contact? Obviously not help desk, but out of software engineering, cloud support, cybersecurity, sys admin, network admin, etc which is the lease collaborative? I don't lack soft skills, but I definitely struggle to work closely with others. Computers don't stress me out nearly as much as people do 😅 I prefer to sort of just be given a queue or something to monitor and be left alone until we have a meeting or something. Anyone have suggestions?
@epicotakugamer4930 9 ай бұрын
I second this. I wish i could find a job with the least human interactions.
@bellegraves 9 ай бұрын
@@epicotakugamer4930 So far it seems like soc analyst is a good option. There’s meetings and paperwork but it seems like the major of the core work is monitoring. Pretty solo.
@shaymckee123 7 ай бұрын
This is a great question. I'm a systems administrator for an MSP and I have very little interaction with clients. I also only have my weekly 1 on 1 with my boss, but other than that, I don't have any reoccurring meetings.
@Bigmtj10678 14 күн бұрын
So is an associate good
@petephelp971 Жыл бұрын
What about offensive cyber security how's that work and pay? Would you have to manage users still?
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
It really depends honestly, but I imagine offsec would be really comfy. Just go in, find stuff that's broken, break stuff, write a report, and dip, I haven't done it though, but that's my image of it lol.
@BackdoorNinja31337 Жыл бұрын
Pentesting or offensive cyber is well paid and often hybrid or fully remote. Pentesting and or cloud are usually both well paid and often remote. Pentesting isn't really a job you deal with customers much except presenting your findings and explaining it to non technical people.
@danigan9564 Жыл бұрын
@@BackdoorNinja31337how about vulnerability management? Is it stress ful what do they do?
@smythsonianisback4190 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, 1. I want to know what certs and skillsets I should get in order to be a self-employed cybersecurity professional, red team in particular. I am currently working on Security+. No college or prior experience. After that, what should I do afterwards to get the experience required for the higher-level certs like OSCP and/or OSEP (if i need them)? 2. If not cybersecurity, what is the best tech field to be self-employed in?
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
IF you want to be a solo consultant, I would definitely get CISSP (it looks good to normies and people who don't know any better), then I would get PNPT (offsec + report writing ability), then maybe OSCP as well. I'm not sure about OSEP :>, if you feel it has value, check em out!
@gibson7654 7 ай бұрын
4:10 "you have to make them practice good hygiene"? 🤔Care to elaborate?
@calvin4959 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video! Can you make a video on IT Auditing/IT Auditor? I am seeing if this is a good career and want you take on this! Please and thank you. This would be much appreciated!
@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын
Hey Calvin! I've never been an actual auditor before, only a wannabe one working on internal stuff and doing security reviews. I think I talk about it a bit in this video though: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtV4g7Oh17iyoZc.html
@calvin4959 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshMadakor I’ll check it out now! Thank you!
@earlem9771 3 ай бұрын
I'm considering a job in IT but I don't like sedentary jobs. Any advice?
@JoshMadakor 3 ай бұрын
Look up Field Service Technician or Field Service Engineer 👌. Usually requires some type of driving around and fixing stuff: www.indeed.com/jobs?q=%22field+service+engineer%22
@maalikserebryakov 2 ай бұрын
Hop and Skip your way to each computer
@JDMorris81 Жыл бұрын
What about QA?
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