LOWEST Stress and BEST Work Life Balance. Cyber Security, IT, or Software Engineering???

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In this video, we dive deep into the world of tech-related careers and explore the factors that influence work-life balance, stress levels, salary, and job security. If you're considering a career in the tech industry, this video will provide valuable insights to help you make informed decisions.
We begin by discussing the field of cyber security, sharing personal experiences and insights into its work-life balance and stress levels. While cyber security offers decent work-life balance, it often involves managing risk and compliance, which can be stressful due to factors beyond your control.
Next, we explore roles like Cloud Support Engineering and Help Desk positions. These jobs come with varying levels of stress and workloads, and we discuss the pros and cons of each, helping you understand what to expect if you choose these paths.
Moving on, we delve into knowledge-based roles, including IT Operations, System Engineering, and Cloud Administration. These roles offer more control over your work and project-based tasks, making them potentially less stressful with better work-life balance.
Finally, we highlight coding and software engineering as a top choice for those seeking high salaries, good work-life balance, and lower stress levels. We advise against consulting firms that may overwork employees, emphasizing the importance of a healthy work-life balance.
Throughout the video, we share personal experiences and anecdotes to provide real-world context and advice. So, whether you're just starting your tech career or considering a change, this video will help you make an informed decision based on your priorities and goals.
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@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

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@CyberNinja6969 Жыл бұрын

Spam much?

@ktgray2884 Жыл бұрын

What about manual QA engineers?

@Brahman2709 Жыл бұрын

How does data analyst/data scientist compare?

@TheBlueMahoe 7 күн бұрын

I am a System Administrator with no Cloud experience, but I want to do volunteer work to display on my LInkedin to get into CLoud

@Ramel34 9 ай бұрын

In IT the word "stress" is usually related to not knowing how to resolve an issue. The more knowledge you have the less stressful it becomes. I remember going from computer to computer doing tasks back when I first started. Now I look back and get upset because a simple script could have saved me so much time and "stress".

@Aplethoraofconvos 9 ай бұрын

lol! that makes alot of sense

@liljzz8621 9 ай бұрын

script?? wym by script. (i dont know anything abt cyber)

@Ramel34 9 ай бұрын

@@liljzz8621 A bash script. Example...let's say your boss asks you to add Outlook to 80 computers. You can either go computer to computer and download the software or write a PSEXEC script and automate the task. Automation is the key.

@joaoraphael5423 7 ай бұрын

@@liljzz8621 scripts are lines of code that automate a task, people usually write scripts on repetitive tasks

@krm5693 5 ай бұрын

There's beauty in the process 🤝

@sjames916 Жыл бұрын

I've worked as a DevOps Engineer, Cloud Engineer, Cybersecurity Engineer, to now in Security auditing. Auditing is very low stress. Just policies, security control assessments, but it's very controlled. It's boring, but easy to me and you can still get the high pay as a DevOps engineer without the tech stuff lol.

@BadWeatherfreak Жыл бұрын

How can I get started?

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this James, I've heard from a couple people that auditing is low stress. I can start recommending this to people haha

@myway8950 Жыл бұрын

Do you miss the tech stuff? because it is so fast paced compared to Auditing

@sjames916 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshMadakor yep, very very low stress. I don't mind boring work that pays me six figures lol.

@sjames916 Жыл бұрын

@@myway8950 Not really. I can see being in technical roles for most of my career makes auditing extremely easy for me because I was on the other side once upon a time implementing the security controls. I don't really miss "fast paced" because I was stressed lol. Always on call and working long hours. I like being in the position of telling someone something is not implemented and kindly asking them to fix it lol. I prefer boring, high paying, and working remote. This allows me to work on other things outside of my main job.

@santaclaus447 Жыл бұрын

As someone who is embarking on their IT journey, I really appreciate your perspective.

@JimmyWallen Жыл бұрын

Great video, Josh! As someone who works in cybersecurity as a SIEM Engineer/Admin for an MSSP, this resonates with me so much. I've been in this role for a year but it feels like double that amount of time already. The stress has been immense and the tickets are endless. Within just my first 4 months I watched 11 engineers quit out of a ~35 person team. I quickly went from being the new guy to now being one of the more "senior" engineers. We manage the security for hundreds of medium and large companies so I will often have 30 tickets/projects in my queue every week which makes it a challenge to manage communications, prioritize projects, and complete tickets before more get assigned since much of the work requires communication from others to complete. The pay has been nice considering I had no cybersecurity experience prior and had never touched a SIEM. Started out at 70k and got a 30k raise after 6 months and expecting another raise soon. The experience has been extremely valuable but this is not something I can sustain long term. I'm still new in this career so I'm not sure yet what I would want to or could pivot into next. Getting into coding sounds nice but is also intimidating.

@sexiig4lyfe Жыл бұрын

I want to switch from Env. Eng into the cyber security engineering industry and STEM genre in general. Any advice pls??

@SunDogGod Жыл бұрын

70k to 100k with no experience?! Damn I’m jealous good stuff man I’m at 50k in a support position my 2nd one really first one was 30k, looking to upgrade soon

@Mohammedmalsaid Жыл бұрын

Was it hard to get the job initially with no experience? Any tips or advice on how a noob to the industry can get in?

@fabianortiz1712 Жыл бұрын

Sounds awesome man, like the kind of thing I’d like. Im taking the google cybersecurity certificate course and the security+ after. Any other suggestions? I have no background in IT, I’m a union Ironworker, 12 years in the industry but due to lack of work and a belief that the industry is only going to get worse i made this decision, which has been in my mind for sometime.

@jay_hovita 11 ай бұрын

Nice! What was you path in getting into CS with no experience? Degrees? Any certs?

@KevtechITSupport Жыл бұрын

helldesk can be stressful depending on the company, manager and coworkers. It's not that bad but avoid toxic environments.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Big true on this one, it really depends :), ty for the comment!

@codymarshall5015 Жыл бұрын

I just got my first helpdesk job recently but am still training haven't started on tickets yet. It's remote so I feel the perk of being at home is awesome, once I start doing tickets will it feel awful? I can't imagine it's more stressful than when I used to work in the medical field which feels like you're always rushing through tons of patients and stressful situations everyday while understaffed.

@KevtechITSupport Жыл бұрын

@Cody Marshall it depends on the company. You have to experience the job to see how it is.

@plusgirlbworld Жыл бұрын

I just started in help desk too and it’s stressful, we support so many things and get lots of backlash from other tiers and depts that haven’t gotten back to users.

@superplusextra9634 Жыл бұрын

Very true, started my first help desk in June for a third party IT and the amount of hassle to take calls and check creds and follow up task within a few hours is what drove me find another job quickly. The new job I started in October is way better in terms of manager and coworker being helpful and giving you time to do said tasks.

@blackswan7568 Жыл бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="9">0:09</a> HEY! That's me😁 Never had a question directly answered by a video. Thanks a lot, Josh👍 Edit: I totally get what you're saying about having control in your job and not having to rely on others. As a college student right now, I always hate having to do group work for that very reason!

@film_magician 11 ай бұрын

Such a great question

@rdean150 Жыл бұрын

Been a software engineer for over a decade. It pays well but is often high stress. Work life balance suffers as well. But it all really depends on the company, team, and project.

@AdrianLamb Жыл бұрын

I find it also greatly varies on the place also. I work in healthcare IT and the work-life balance is great, although I don't get paid as well as if I were working the same position at a FAANG company - I also deal with much, much less stress and more authority. Scarce resources and shitty computers aside, I've worked for 4 hospital systems now and all of them have a big focus on enjoying your job (Although the execs are clueless).

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

"Although the excecs are clueless lmfao" thanks for sharing :)

@Sparkle-ey7iw Жыл бұрын

What is your role if you don’t mind me asking? I an in healthcare and want to get into tech

@WitikoAmor 11 ай бұрын

Healthcare IT is generally not good w/l balance. Everything is urgent. STAT or affecting patient care. If you're in a dept that's mon fri 9 to 5 sure.

@jamellcarter5299 8 ай бұрын

I heard this exact thing from someone in real life abt the healthcare sector

@TheEngineer1988 Ай бұрын

I work in healthcare IT. Very true this is one of the stress free jobs in IT. I recently moved from hospital to another as systems admin/desktop engineer.

@larnizzo91 Жыл бұрын

I’m subbing on the sole factor that you recapped everything at the end of the video lol

@innocentrage1 Жыл бұрын

Jobs with the least stress is anything remote that doesn't deal with customer service. Help desk sucks because you have to be at your desk the whole shift if calls come in. My current cyber job is great because we have a great team and have one person each week take care of issues/tickets so that's the most stressful for that week but the rest of the time you just work on projects and just get your work done and no one cares how long you work

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. honestly project work is the best, especially if you are quick and efficient ^^

@Lanae8199 Жыл бұрын

What type of Cyber Security are you involved in? I am at the beginning of my IT journey, and eventually I would like to work in a remote position that does not have a lot of stress involved, and allows me to be productive.

@OiVinn-eq1ml Жыл бұрын

I have been wanting to get into SOC but reading your post makes me rethink that lol

@skateivanfamous 10 ай бұрын

Whats your position in your current cyber job ?

@Anw120 3 ай бұрын

What is your position? What type of industry?

@codenameWAK 7 ай бұрын

This was awesome... Thanks!

@ganyrehs 8 ай бұрын

To me it depends on the environment that you're working at. Small vs large companies, the size of the IT department, resources to go to, and so on. Small companies working in IT you're probably going to wear a lot of hats dealing with various kinds of issues that could lead to a lot of stress.

@Nurr0 6 ай бұрын

Thanks this is helpful, security is interesting but I really don't know I'd handle the stress well the more I look into it.

@gamesboy123able 8 ай бұрын

Absolute banger video!

@marvinmanalastas7093 Жыл бұрын

Great info, this helped me make a choice between Cloud eng and Soft dev.

@marvinmanalastas7093 Жыл бұрын

@@cherrypai44 Software dev, was for the better work life balance.

@orlandogarcia4403 Жыл бұрын

Super helpful Video, I have 6 years in Front-end dev, and I was wondering If there were other Tech areas I could be a in a better position, now I can see I am already in one of the best ones lol

@howardbonds5106 Жыл бұрын

Tier II/Tier3 is most likely the best work life balance...pay is between 50 and 110k and you can be off by 4pm and headed home...very little after hours work...sometimes you have snippy users who need your help...but that generally never turns into a major concern as long as you are professional with them..

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Yeah I can def see this. A bit high-ish up, but still an individual contributor :)

@avaliausd. Жыл бұрын

Also, it's easier to get a job in IT with an associate's degree than to get a job as a developer or cyber security analyst. I am in school for Computer Science, but I might change my major to IT, get the associate's, then go back and work on Computer Science. My brother got his associate's in IT last year and he got hit up by a recruiter around two weeks after graduating. Now he gets calls non stop. It's different with cyber and programming. They generally want you to have a bachelor's degree along with projects to prove you know what you are doing. Considering that I don't live with my parents and I split an apartment with my brother, I need to take the route thats going to make me money faster first.

@zx6r1320 Жыл бұрын

I honestly don’t think thats necessarily true. I think having project’s or certs is mainly what they look at and the thing is theres more and more IT jobs then they can fill all you need to do is spam applications and one of them will hit because the IT field will be forever growing. Getting a As and BS in computer programing is pretty challenging way more than IT i would say

@delanescott7872 Жыл бұрын

what positions are the recruiters trying to pitch to your bother?

@selim3248 Жыл бұрын

Are u working on cyber or software sector? Which field do you work on

@cptndunsel2670 10 ай бұрын

It is worth noting that the Software market is crashing right now. That isn't to say that there are no jobs, but it is much much harder to get a job at the entry level. IT doesn't seem to have as many entry level roadblocks right now.

@jg1000c 10 ай бұрын

I do automation for patching and vulnerability remediation. I agree with you, mostly low stress and self paced.

@bicdeez007 6 ай бұрын

Do you have to do a lot of programming in your job role and if so which language do you need to know? Thank you in advance

@jg1000c 6 ай бұрын

@@bicdeez007 I do some, python and powershell.

@thatkarachikid 2 ай бұрын

are you a sys admin?

@evanmiles7252 Жыл бұрын

I would say working help desk at a MSP can be high stress depending on the size of the MSP. And work life balance can suffer. For instance, if you work for a smaller MSP you are on call a lot. My last job I was on call for all of our clients 1 week a month. The MSP I am at now is a lot larger so were only on call 1 week a year.

@eman0828 Жыл бұрын

To be honest, I don't think there isn't any roles in IT that doesn't have stress. Even when you start getting into Tier 3 as a Network Engineer or Systems Administrators, the stress level increases once some thing breaks as you are constantly putting out fires being on-call 24/7. I work in Tier 2 role above Help Desk as there is some level of stress meeting a quota of closed tickets a day or once some thing breaks that's urgent, you can't go home until is fixed. I also facilitate Tier 3 with server and network issues in the server room with hands and eyes even after hours when infrastructure issues occurs.

@Hellioss89 Жыл бұрын

Hello and thanks for that comment. Just one question what do you think about the same topic in networking but applied to call center?. Cisco TAC for example...

@pixelll1783 4 ай бұрын

I'm 17 looking to get into coding but i'm looking for a field where I can have a life outside my job ive seen a lot of videos and it seems even when they are not on the job they are still working to understand I dont mind the stress while im working but i would like to have a work life balance where I can be a family man and have time for my family

@Ashleycreates_content Жыл бұрын

There’s no such thing as zero stress anything! Thank you all that’s my time! Goodnight and have a safe journey home.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@mellol1628 Жыл бұрын

Ultimately, depends on company’s culture and industry. The jobs that prioritize anything close to 24/7 365 support are usually more demanding of your personal time. The Jobs that are literally fixing problems all the time can be stressful. The jobs where your wearing multiple hats tend to be both stressful and demanding. I could go on.

@franciscoortiz8531 Жыл бұрын

I found doing IT for the Army not/hardly stressful (surprising I know). Most of the stress comes from doing actual Army stuff that doesn't necessarily include your job.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Ah yeah, that's pretty much what I've been reading. I considered joining for a long time, but I was too much of a B to go through with it, so props to you :)

@234sthomas Жыл бұрын

@@JoshMadakor How does data science compare? Also, AI/Machine Learning roles?

@zx6r1320 Жыл бұрын

Thats kinda the secret almost any gov job pays will and doesn’t require nearly as much work as say work in the public/private industry government just loves to waste money 😂

@shardaes252 Ай бұрын

Much needed thanks

@Cl8tn0822 Жыл бұрын

Great video and very helpful!

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@S-DIDI 8 ай бұрын

I worked for almost four years as help desk and the stress is seasonal. Also a lot depends on what size of the organization you work. It can be pretty stressful

@Anw120 3 ай бұрын

Any tips what to look for?

@masonmcgahey7 Жыл бұрын

This is a great video concept. I love IT but as I've picked up new hobbies a stress level/work life balance is very important.

@justinwilliams7595 Жыл бұрын

If you are going to work help desk don’t work tier 1 as that is the most stressful in my opinion just based on my experience. Tier 2 or 3 tends to be less stressful because you are usually not getting back to back calls. And don’t get me started on not being on the phone when you’re supposed to in the case of a restroom break.

@eman0828 Жыл бұрын

Those are Sub-Tier levels with in Help Desk. You are still on the Help Desk as a Level 1 role. Tier 2 is Desktop Support and Tier 3 is the Network and Sysadmins.. You can technically skill help Desk all together and jump to Tier 2.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience ^^

@stevendeclercq3566 Жыл бұрын

this was great! thank you for being concise. took only about 5 minutes of my time vs videos i have ready in other tabs 10-15 minutes

@143jeg Жыл бұрын

I don't feel like cyber security fits so well into one box... you could be doing vulnerability management, pen testing, incident response, identity access management, firewall administration, security awareness training, or any combination of those and more. The level of stress is as much about the way the organization operates as it is your role within the organization too it seems.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I feel you are 100% correct about this. I just tried to share my personal experiences but for sure it depends on what/where and stuff. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts ^^

@143jeg Жыл бұрын

@@JoshMadakor Thanks for the reply, Josh! I do agree with your analysis of these roles in a more general sense. With the people I know in cyber security roles though and even in the roles I've been in myself, there seems to be quite the range in level and type of stress associated.

@CyberNinja6969 Жыл бұрын

I have to disagree with alot of what's said. I've done alof of cybersecurity and some cloud and its been pretty low stress. Help desk got the most calls and least respect from people. I'm currently a pentester and its low stress and fully remote.

@143jeg Жыл бұрын

@@CyberNinja6969, clearly there are exceptions. I was also in a pretty low stress cyber security job for several years. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have left for more money. I still think Josh's comparison holds true within the companies I have worked at.

@Lanae8199 Жыл бұрын

@@CyberNinja6969 I Came across a video this morning about Cyber Security and Vulnerability testing. He mentioned that you don’t necessarily need certifications but going through a training program would help you land a job. What are your thoughts?

@lucasribolli 5 ай бұрын

Yeah it depends on a lot of things. On my case, I am moving from coding to pentesting (I always had a passion on hacking field, since I was a teenager). My job as a software engineer was a hell. Work on a trash code, with horribles deadlines, being underpaid and cannot have any energy in the end of the day. I had the worse experience on my life, breaking a production app with a bug that could not be reproduceble. I mean, work on frontline as a software engineering is for me way more stressing than analyzing issues. I hope I find myself on this new field.

@dieglhix 6 күн бұрын

great decision. I dont do pentest but if you were a swe, pentesting will be much more fulfilling than making rich guys richer with their specific commercial apps

@Geomaverick124 Жыл бұрын

I've worked IT Support and Help desk like roles in the beginning and Frontend Development has been the least stressful...not having to run people down for access or info or waiting on others to do your task makes it a lot less stressful

@laramecodes3520 Жыл бұрын

Facts! I worked HelpDesk for years. I recently transitioned to IAM Engineer role and my stress levels are a whole lot lower.

@ArchaicCreationsbp Жыл бұрын

If you don't mind me asking, how did you transition from it support to frontend development?

@Geomaverick124 Жыл бұрын

@@ArchaicCreationsbp just by learning the languages that were needed, building projects, and practicing interviews. It took about a year

@Geomaverick124 Жыл бұрын

@@ArchaicCreationsbp Honestly if you were going that route I would take coursera's Frontend and backend certificates and do javascript masteries free bootcamps on KZfaq and post about them on Social Media or look up coding phase on KZfaq and take his email developer bootcamp course...Email development is like a starter job to help get into web dev

@danigan9564 Жыл бұрын

@@laramecodes3520how do you get into IAM with no experience?

@evans_northwest Жыл бұрын

Based on what I have worked, I feel that Cyber GRC may be the least “stressful”. However, it gets to be soul-sucking, in my opinion. As you said, you also have to rely on others doing their job, which can also be hit and miss. Obviously, a LAN Admin or Vulnerability Management position may be more “stressful” but I ultimately had a better sense of pride and job satisfaction in those roles, where I troubleshot actual problems and made things happen. Some people might crave a boring, “stable” job. Good for them. Some like new challenges. Just because a job is easy, doesn’t mean you’ll be happier.

@MT89259 Жыл бұрын

How do you get into a cyber GRC role with no experience?

@evans_northwest Жыл бұрын

@@MT89259 you can start at a helpdesk somewhere, and they likely have a "compliance" type of group within. Ask around.

@MT89259 Жыл бұрын

@@evans_northwest ty

@epicotakugamer4930 11 ай бұрын

People tend to like boring jobs because they have other things going on in their life outside their jobs.

@JohnSeabourn 9 ай бұрын

Cloud Support Engineering sounds more fun because everything is challenging, and you don't just do monotonous repeat tasks like on a helpdesk.

@antoniogrant8 Жыл бұрын

Wow love this vid, I got an admissions overview at 10am today ironically for a IT program literally. Excited yet curious to what’s to come, anybody into software engineering? Great content Josh

@exohive5608 11 ай бұрын

Currently work as a NOC Engineer, but the actual work is basically help desk. It’s stressful in the fall because the company is busy during that time (printing). But it’s alright during the spring.

@nahidsarker69 10 ай бұрын

I don't know much about cyber but what is NOC and what do they do bro???

@allways8782 Жыл бұрын

From the research that I've done, being a QA engineer, either manual or automation, but especially manual, is low stress. Its actually been voted the number two least stressful Tech job in the country, via Forbes. I'm considering pursuing it

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! Sounds promising tbh

@elise4517 Жыл бұрын

Yes, that is true. I've been doing software testing for the past 5 years now, at both enterprise and startup companies. Prior to that, started in IT as tech support and did some DevOps work for a cybersecurity startup. I'd say it depends on the company. Yes, as a QA engineer the stress is lower and work-life balance better than most cybersec and IT jobs. BUT there's also crap that comes with QA work too (ie: needing to test multiple features/user stories within a short timeframe, difficult managers, toxic work environment, etc). I agree with Josh - jobs that involve coding do tend to be more relaxed (except for DevOps lol). Best wishes on your QA journey!

@intentionalgreatness Жыл бұрын

@@elise4517 how did you get started in software testing? I've been doing a udemy course but not sure what else to do.

@elise4517 Жыл бұрын

@@intentionalgreatness An opportunity presented itself at my company when i was in tech support. The dev manager knew i wanted to be a developer (at that time) and there was a QA opening. He thought i was great for the role, so I switched to QA. Prior to that, I had no idea about QA. For me, i learned everything on the job. If that's something you're interested in doing, watch a few youtube videos or the udemy course is fine. Learn the fundamentals to get your foot in the door as a manual tester and go from there.

@allways8782 Жыл бұрын

@@elise4517 Hello Elise, I just saw your message, so pardon the delayed response. Thank you so much for your insight! Difficult managers and or toxic work environments (if you are remote) is not that common, correct? Do you have certain questions that you ask during the interview process that can help you weed out a toxic work environment, even if it's remote? Thank you.

@galleon8129 Жыл бұрын

Software Dev is very stressful especially if the company is not organised; knowledge base is not really what you depend on but you’ll have to think outside the box. I would say Business Analysis, Scrum Master and IT Project Support roles are the least stressful.

@AlexJames-jv3em 8 ай бұрын

Yup, being a software developer is like being a research scientist but without the respect and glamor (and usually without the pay): You're daily having to teach yourself something new just to get the job done, and there's a lot of trial and error and shots in the dark. Sometimes you discover late that you've been blindly barking up a wrong tree, and you have to start over from scratch on a project.

@shafialanower3820 Жыл бұрын

Do entry level cloud jobs exists? Id imagine cloud could be one of the few careers where personal projects are highly valuable if you don’t have experience. Also , Happy Thanksgivings to the InfoSec 🐐

@Candice144 9 ай бұрын

I’m almost done with school in December. I honestly am not sure what I may go after first. I should have a couple of certs as well once done. But coming from a background in nursing and in my 40’s now. I could handle the stress but don’t necessarily prefer a high stress job. But it seems like just starting off I may have to take the high stress jobs until I can gain work experience. Or is there another route?

@flashketchum368 Жыл бұрын

Hey Josh, great video. Just want to let you know that the term “go postal” is taboo in the mail delivery world. It’s a reference to a disgruntled USPS employee shooting up a post office…

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Sorry about that :(

@failingdisciple938 Жыл бұрын

I still like and use the term

@lour7452 Жыл бұрын

Someone needs to take a chill pill and give people the benefit of the doubt. This world has become so hypersensitive taking all the fun out of just speaking. Thank you Josh for doing a great job.

@phaledax3661 Жыл бұрын

I started out thinking my cybersecurity is not all that stressful at all, and then you started listing why it's stressful and I'm thinking. "oh yeah, I guess there is that. Oh.. yeah that too..." lol I guess it is a mindset, The biggest aspect is you can get in real trouble when someone else doesn't perform a task correctly. Also compliance work when your assessor sometimes does not understand how a system works and adds requirements that are not plausible or sensical for that type of system. You get stuck in a loop.

@myway8950 Жыл бұрын

Do you have any thoughts about the CASP+? Is it worth doing it? I am kinda in a doubtful situation because I am not sure if I should go towards a cyber security or Devops route. This decision would really depend on the certs I pursue. I feel like cyber security is a bit easier path compared to devops as there is a lot of automation to do. Competition is also quite high in Devops compared to cyber security. Lowest stress comes with a lot of coding practices I guess?

@CyberNinja6969 Жыл бұрын

Find your dream job. Look across those jobs on indeed or monster etc. That will guide you to what certs or skills companies want.

@StevenDoesStuff Жыл бұрын

I'm currently helpdesk and the stressful part is when there's nothing to do lmao. I work at a bank and they gave me the corner of the office with no cubicle so everyone can see that I'm doing absolutely nothing at times and I have to make up some psudo-important stuff to pull up on my screen.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Haha, I feel you on that. Honestly if I were you, I would just start coding a lot of study something where it looks like I'm doing work. lmao. Get a lot of skill/certs :O). In fact, that's what I did in my previous job

@shameermulji Жыл бұрын

I’m in exact scenario as you. On a side note, I’m not sure I want to deal with service tickets for the remainder of my career. I was initially looking into cloud computing but now I’m not so sure.

@Amor09876 Жыл бұрын

😂

@nahidsarker69 10 ай бұрын

Can u plz say what skill or how many years of experience someone needs to land a job like this?

@bdukes8075 Ай бұрын

🙄🤦‍♂️ now I see this video after taking the google cyber security course because you had another video about cyber security 😂 I was just about to buy your cyber security course. So your It course the better course? 🤔

@miclappas Жыл бұрын

isnt there a difference between working as a cloud support engineer and just regular cloud engineering?

@Velosity696 Жыл бұрын

Hey Josh, which role is more stressful ? Project manager or a software engineer ?

@totiriel6079 Жыл бұрын

So stressful if you dont have the money. Once you are financially stable then you can choose and decide not to work to avoid stress.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly, this is why I recommend people save up a large chunk of coins

@cr7neymar908 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. You should make a video on the general roadmaps for the highest paying jobs in IT

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Thank so much! Idk if I'm qualified to make that kinda video lol. I can think about it though, I think people would really like to watch it. I will put it in my TODOs

@sketchwithjess Жыл бұрын

Management only care about metrics if your resolving tech issues in real-time on the phone you must meet the metrics, if not your fired, very stressful. You can not meet metrics eventhough you solve the issue and left a positive experience with the user. I would imagine working on support tickets is alot less tressful. I don't know the metrics for IT support ticket work.

@g-prince3375 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clarification. I'm curious to know which category cloud solutions architect associate falls under? Would it be coding/dev?

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Probably Engineering would be my guess, where you are designing a high-level solution. That's what comes to mind when I see "architect"

@mikepifer7558 Жыл бұрын

Depends more on the business you work for more than the type of IT position you have.

@codymarshall5015 Жыл бұрын

Hey Josh, would you say your current role is more front end? Or more focused on something like powershell scripting and automation? Also what would you say your role title is technically called? I couldn't really find "cloud automation engineer" on indeed but found more like "cyber security engineer" or "cloud engineer" postings.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Hey Cody, Check out this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ2YmcqBrJiliJ8.html I would say my role is a mixture of back end and front end. Lost of moving data around (ETL), then more recently I also got assigned some front-end responsibilities as well. But the FE is REALLY weird for my current job. I'm managing some web app called DocAssemble which uses python and YAML to control the front end. Very weird. All back end stuff is in Python too, with some occasional PowerShell

@codymarshall5015 Жыл бұрын

@Josh Madakor - Tech, Education, Career Sorry I asked this twice haha. You answered me in discord about this recently.

@danigan9564 Жыл бұрын

Is vulnerability management stressful? What do they do?

@TKGZONE Жыл бұрын

are you working remotely in japan working for company in another country? I kinda wanted to do that, just wondering how you manage to let your company do that if u do

@diervonsaton6 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, for your advice mate. 🤓

@jconti0727 Жыл бұрын

Is an Information Security Analyst the same as working in Cybersecurity? Does it involve coding? What is required to get your foot in the door?

@monojit6820 2 ай бұрын

Cried a little when you said consulting firm. You understand our pain Josh, thank you lol

@aeseiri1618 Жыл бұрын

Say I'm a bit of the opposite. I do best in roles where I can lead, delegate, coordinate, and support teams in success. I would be far less happy in a pure text solo role. I could do it, but would be less motivated and happy, so that would make me stressed.

@yousefhussain9945 Ай бұрын

Hey man really liked this video thank you! - I wanted to ask as someone who has no background in IT or tech, where do you think is a good place to start? My values moving forward are: low stress, can work remote and pays relatively well, doesnt require huge amounts of money to star and lastly where i can maintain sustainable employment i.e stability. I'd really appreciate your insight! YH

@bellegraves Жыл бұрын

Sorry for asking questions on a video released 7 months ago, and really if anyone sees this question, feel free to answer. Soft skills aside, which position would you recommend for the least amount of human contact? Obviously not help desk, but out of software engineering, cloud support, cybersecurity, sys admin, network admin, etc which is the lease collaborative? I don't lack soft skills, but I definitely struggle to work closely with others. Computers don't stress me out nearly as much as people do 😅 I prefer to sort of just be given a queue or something to monitor and be left alone until we have a meeting or something. Anyone have suggestions?

@epicotakugamer4930 11 ай бұрын

I second this. I wish i could find a job with the least human interactions.

@bellegraves 11 ай бұрын

@@epicotakugamer4930 So far it seems like soc analyst is a good option. There’s meetings and paperwork but it seems like the major of the core work is monitoring. Pretty solo.

@shaymckee123 9 ай бұрын

This is a great question. I'm a systems administrator for an MSP and I have very little interaction with clients. I also only have my weekly 1 on 1 with my boss, but other than that, I don't have any reoccurring meetings.

@JayS64 Жыл бұрын

As a person thinking of transitioning I've been waiting for some experienced person to answer this question. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="56">0:56</a> So GRC is more stressfull?? wow that's surprising. Was looking at auditor, QA, vulnerability specialist, Information Compliance Security and a few others. Want something i can go at my own pace, with a fairly consistent educational process and application. I wish your answer was more in depth, but thanks a lot. I'll give your coding vid a look.

@michaelc6031 Жыл бұрын

What are great help desk business I can work for?

@RVRayRay Ай бұрын

I do IAM consulting for the federal govt…very low stress and I love it.

@alenk4682 Жыл бұрын

Would you know of any companies that are known good to work for? Or companies known to hire chat agents, not having to talk all day long on the phone? Like Fortune 500 ones. Talking all day is exhausting.

@Brucee_97 10 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="320">5:20</a> thank you for this 😎

@Frissdas1207 Жыл бұрын

I switched from cs to sysadmin. Can confirm, much lower stress.

@geddon436 Жыл бұрын

you switched from cyber? or computer science?

@Frissdas1207 8 ай бұрын

@@geddon436yes, CyberSec.

@Eze_Cloud Жыл бұрын

Hey! Cybersecurity Consulting isn’t too bad!

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Damn really? I've only done infrastructure consulting and it sucked haha. Good to know ^^

@user-np8fo9ju1i Жыл бұрын

What do you think about Data Analytics?

@nappy203 Жыл бұрын

Shoot. I did not know that cyber is high stress.... I just spent like 7-8 months doing cyber in a bootcamp. I wish I knew that prior to my starting in this field...

@braiinworms Жыл бұрын

What do you think about pentesting/ethical hacking? I always assumed it would be lower stress than other cybersecurity jobs but I don't know very much about it.

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Hey Annie, My thoughts on pen testing...Roll in, break some stuff, write a report, and let the nerd client worry about fixing it and then dip. lmao. I haven't officially don pen testing before, but it seems like a pretty sweet deal and low stress

@hugejackedman3447 Жыл бұрын

I've been kinda looking into it myself. So far the majority of people tend to say that it's all fun and games till you have to do the report writing part! lol And it can be in various forms such as an actual "physical" penetration gaining access to buildings or restricted areas that require special access etc. Even saw a video some months ago that involved actual "lockpicking" a door. Network penetration of course is what's most commonly thought of which is exactly what it sounds like without going into too much detail. There are many who also differentiate between "Pentesting" and "Ethical Hacking". I recommend checking out: "The Cyber Mentor", "Hackersploit", and "John Hammond" to name a few of the most popular experts on the subject.

@yon1623 Жыл бұрын

someone almost got me to switch to Cyber today. I think i will stick to dev

@dodedodedo22 Жыл бұрын

yeah I'm an InfoSec analyst, get scheduled with a good 12 hours of audits/RAs every day and its miserable. red teaming doesn't look bad though but yeah thats what everyone wants to be .

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Exactly my experience and exactly my thoughts on offsec. Roll in, break some stuff, write a report, and let the nerd client worry about fixing it lmao

@Ankit-mh1qx Ай бұрын

I m working in soc analyst working in rotational shifts including night shift weekend are other than saturday sunday like my others frnds weekend on this day only work life balance is disbalanced now... Can u tell cyber security domain which generally don't require rotational shifts

@mampenza Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video I want to make a course on being a front end developer and this video was greatly helpful

@klarenxeblood9615 Жыл бұрын

What about PCI Compliance for low stress high earning or Robotic Process Automation

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

I hated PCI so that made it high stress for me, but if you are fine with it, it's probably low-ish stress haha. IDK about robots though honestly :(

@SmokeAlarmBeeps Жыл бұрын

Whoever you see falling asleep at their desk is the low stress job

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Lmao, haven't thought about it this way.

@bigwoke686 Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on Pentesting/Ethical Hacking?

@generallateef3467 4 ай бұрын

Great video. Where do you think solution architect Or cloud Or Devops fits in?

@JoshMadakor 4 ай бұрын

I think solutions architect is probably lower stress than Devops. Solutions Architect would likely be architecting solutions/designs where as devops, by nature, deals directly with operations. Anything with operations has the possibility of stressful/time constrained situations.

@smythsonianisback4190 Жыл бұрын

Hey Josh, 1. I want to know what certs and skillsets I should get in order to be a self-employed cybersecurity professional, red team in particular. I am currently working on Security+. No college or prior experience. After that, what should I do afterwards to get the experience required for the higher-level certs like OSCP and/or OSEP (if i need them)? 2. If not cybersecurity, what is the best tech field to be self-employed in?

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

IF you want to be a solo consultant, I would definitely get CISSP (it looks good to normies and people who don't know any better), then I would get PNPT (offsec + report writing ability), then maybe OSCP as well. I'm not sure about OSEP :>, if you feel it has value, check em out!

@ichigo8000 Жыл бұрын

Since you have experience I want to ask you. I have an IT Bachelors Degree, 2 years of IT Helpdesk/Specialist II experience, Security+, CISA (passed exam don't have experience requirement), and am studying for the CRISC currently. Roughly how much can I expect to make with No GRC experience before getting the CRISC as of right now and after I get it? From different sources it seems consistent I'd be able to get 6 figures or close to it with these things on my side currently, am I correct? Your insight would be appreciated.

@nahidsarker69 10 ай бұрын

How did u pass CISA when it required at least 5 yrs experience??

@ichigo8000 10 ай бұрын

@@nahidsarker69 It requires 5 years experience (3 years of which can be waived if you meet certain requirements) to have the full cert/CISA designation. But you don’t need that 5 years experience to be able to take the exam, though it would’ve probably taken me less time studying if I already had that experience, also once you pass it (which is the hardest part) you can put it on your resume that you passed. I did also pass the CRISC after it and that has a 3 year experience requirement w/ no waiver for the full CRISC designation, but not to sit for the exam. That’s also something on my resume now. Hope that clears things up

@nahidsarker69 10 ай бұрын

@@ichigo8000 i understand bro,thank u so much for replying and giving me this information that i have never known before today and one more thing to know plz..can anyone do the same with cissp too??

@ichigo8000 10 ай бұрын

@@nahidsarker69 I believe so, I think for the CISSP, if you pass it w/o having the experience requirement, they'll give you the Junior Associate CISSP or something like that from ISC2. I think Josh might have a video on it too lol.

@nahidsarker69 10 ай бұрын

@@ichigo8000 tnx for the info brother..

@JacksonLloyd952 Ай бұрын

Good stuff

@JoshMadakor Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it ^^

@ntech1507 Жыл бұрын

Hello Josh. Wondering what kind of IT Jobs that is not coding that is remote and can make 65k a year. I am currenty getting my B.S in IT management at WGU

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Hey Ntech! Bunch of stuff. Just go to LinkedIn jobs, set the jobs to remote only, and start typing the name of certs and see what comes out. This should give you a decent idea of what jobs and in which fields have a lot of remote positions :)

@ntech1507 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshMadakor ok got it thank you that helps a lot

@bedheaded1488 7 ай бұрын

What do think about digital engineering?

@petephelp971 Жыл бұрын

What about offensive cyber security how's that work and pay? Would you have to manage users still?

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

It really depends honestly, but I imagine offsec would be really comfy. Just go in, find stuff that's broken, break stuff, write a report, and dip, I haven't done it though, but that's my image of it lol.

@CyberNinja6969 Жыл бұрын

Pentesting or offensive cyber is well paid and often hybrid or fully remote. Pentesting and or cloud are usually both well paid and often remote. Pentesting isn't really a job you deal with customers much except presenting your findings and explaining it to non technical people.

@danigan9564 Жыл бұрын

@@CyberNinja6969how about vulnerability management? Is it stress ful what do they do?

@Brandon-el4bz Ай бұрын

I know this is a year old but that about identity and access management careers ?

@shreyastambe4897 Жыл бұрын

Hello Josh could you please make a video on Thesis/dissertation i am about to complete my masters in information security but stuck with completing my thesis and facing multiple roadblocks. It will be of great help if you can throw some light

@JoshMadakor Жыл бұрын

Hey Shreyas, I didn't have to do a thesis, but I did do a capstone. My topic was implementing a vulnerability management program on distributed government systems. I can just show it to you if you want to email me at the email in my channel :)

@shreyastambe4897 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshMadakor thanks for replying. Ya sure i will email you. This will certainly help me 👍

@shreyastambe4897 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshMadakor i can't find your email address:(

@fobmaster Жыл бұрын

If you know some web dev... the app sec field of cyber is pretty good... you're not fixing the code... you're pointing out flaws in the code for the developers to fix

@kwsrchoudhury Жыл бұрын

Im trying to switch from Incident Response

@lukemarshall118 8 ай бұрын

I’m thinking about doing something an IT because I want something that is going to provide me the money and time to pursue music on the side

@alarmsquadnj 10 ай бұрын

Hi wow would you recommend to learn leetcode

@josephdemarco2643 2 ай бұрын

Where would QA or QE fall into that list? I'm assuming Best pay, probably bottom. Lowest Stress probably between coding and it.

@JoshMadakor 2 ай бұрын

Good question! I haven't done QA before and I haven't been around them enough so I don't have a good sense.

@TheBlueMahoe Ай бұрын

What do you think about Data Engineer or AI or ML Engineer? how is the stress levels here

@tebogomodingoane3967 Жыл бұрын

I’m a software engineer, im always stressed

@beaugetostarmixedbag210 8 ай бұрын

What about penetration testers, and ethical hackers?

@Zoids-bf6op 9 ай бұрын

Watching this as I’m about to venture into cloud admin from game dev. Hope I made the right choice

@TheBlueMahoe 7 күн бұрын

AWS Cloud Practitioner should be low stress you think? What job title would that be

@Zoids-bf6op 6 күн бұрын

@@TheBlueMahoe update. I skip the practitioner and went straight to associate. Practitioner is more for sales tech. But if you're not confident in your skills, a buildup from cloud practitioner to SA associate would be smoother.

@TheBlueMahoe 6 күн бұрын

@@Zoids-bf6op I am not using the environment now, so I have no access to it at the moment

@BobF510 7 ай бұрын

I'm drawn to the depth of this material. A book with comparable insights changed my perspective immensely. "A Life Unplugged: Reclaiming Reality in a Digital Age" by Theodore Blaze

@jwettkilla1674 Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to get IT JOBS WITHOUT A DEGREE

@husnainfayaz 3 ай бұрын

Hello Everyone! I am a devops engineer, I have worked for almost 6 years in different tech companies! Honestly I found devops very stressfull as it is very fast paced , multi tasking , Rnd , always learning new things , working/troubleshooting new issues , so to sum up very stressfull role even after back to home after work mind stucks and thinking of the issue which was never resolved during work , companies should introduce unlimited time off , so that employee can relax , and when I think of taking some time off I become stress full that manager gonna be asking too much questions and explanations like for how long and what made you streesed etc I am continuously looking for something either in IT sector or may be a complete new career means non IT which can be relaxing! Any suggestions?

@GoodToCU88 16 күн бұрын

Medical Field?