That’s nice to hear. I like to help out if we can and hopefully it makes some stuff easier on others.

I’m happy to hear when it helps some others out. Thanks for watching!

You said precisely what I came to the comments to say. I am so thankful for this exceptionally thorough view into the installation process. I will be buying an ACE kit soon as well. Subscribed!

Nice, it’s a really well made kit. 👍🏻

@@spenceradamsjr Appreciate that. We didn’t see a whole lot out there that detailed more of what was involved. Being it isn’t a straight up bolt in swap I just wanted to give people an idea of what it takes. By no means is it a step by step tutorial (no one has enough time to watch that). But it gives you the gist of it.

Fellow Discovery hoarder, love it! Thanks for watching.

Glad to hear! It’s not a step by step but at least gives you a good idea of what is involved. Take your time and have fun!

I hope it helps some people see what is involved. It’s not exactly easy, but this gives somewhat of an idea what is needed, not necessarily complete step by step but good general sense.

No problem. Thanks for following along.

Appreciate the kind words.

Awesome to hear. Cool to see one with some miles and being used.

Thanks for watching! It was a fun one to build.

I’m not sure whether or not ACE will split it up but it is worth a shot. I also think they may have some p38 stuff in the works but I could be wrong. I also have a P38 that may get some sort of swap.

@@LostCauseRanch If you do swap your P38 I'll be watching with extra keen interest :) Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Yeah 35s is quite the stretch on a LR3, I’d like to try it someday.

Isn't that the truth! Haha.

Believe it or not it's an easy fix

I think that happens from time to time. They were back ordered when I order the kit last spring, but it wasn’t a terribly long wait.

Thanks, it is quite different than stock.

I agree with that, the updated power train just kind of makes these right.

Not sure if you made it to the end of the video yet. But there is some good news in there for you.

Yes, as long as you can do the labor yourself it comes in pretty reasonable.

Hello from the opposite side of the state! No plans as of yet to do anything on an LR3. For me it’s more economical to just step into an LR4 than to swap an LR3. The LR4 makes respectable power, but likes fuel just as much as the LR3 unfortunately. I wish we would have gotten the diesel D1s and D2s over here as well.

@@LostCauseRanch yeah. I kinda wish Ford didn't sell Land Rover and Jaguar so we can have awesome cars with decent reliability. Oh well, automakers aren't known for making logical/common sense decisions.

Haha, no kidding. I think it is a good lesson in not buying tooling for an engine that a leading manufacturer gave up on in favor of something else. Obvious seconds. But either way I still love my Buick motored Rovers too, feels very fitting for some of them.

Not to mention if you wanted a cam or anything to add more power to the LS it would probably grenade the LR trans pretty quick.

I have a classic that I am doing a 4.8 and the zf and while searching for my adapter I found marks, which had 4l80 adapter

@@Killian665 this is false. I have a cammed 5.3 with 10k miles on the 2001 HP22 - no issues thus far.

Marks 4x4 and RW engineering both make GM trans adapters to LT230 TC. I have a Range Rover classic with a 4.8 LS and a GM SM465 granny 4spd manual. I used advanced adapters tailshaft on the tranny that converts it to Jeep 23 spline. Then used Diesel Conversion specialist LT230 to Jeep 23 spline adapter. This keeps it a short combo. If you use the marks or RW adapter, the GM trans plus the adapter will make you have to move the TC. The way I did it keeps the engine and TC in the same location.

Yes, still can have the 3 amigos. We actually had to fix it on this one unrelated to the swap but after the swap was complete.

I am thinking about a swap on my 2006 hse

Haha. That is the dream for sure.

It feels like driving a classic, part of the appeal to me in some ways.

It’s on the ACE website

@@Killian665 thank you 💐👍website link please

The incline is my biggest gripe with the 3.9/4.0/4.2/4.6. It pains me to come upon an incline at highway speed, it just never seems to do what it should.

I’d be curious to see what they thought was junk about the kit. It is a little cumbersome if you look at it vs. a factory installed engine. Also, by looking at some of the instruction pictures I think the kit has some more refined parts now vs. some earlier kits but I can’t comment on that as I’m not affiliated or anything with ACE. I could see being a little annoyed at the kit if you were trying to install it for a customer and you had to hit a certain dollar amount as the first go around took some time to sort through all that is going on. The transmission failure would be interested gm to see how it happened, you could definitely overpower the Rover transmission with an LS so you do have to be somewhat smart with your driving. And if it was in limp mode there was something not happy.

@@LostCauseRanch thanks for the response. I personally haven’t heard of any failures… thanks so much!

Your callout is my biggest gripe with the ACE kit but it simply takes considerable adjustment and readjustment since the crank sensor’s position relative to the trigger wheel on the crank pulley is so sensitive. Incorrect adjustment with this leads to the limp issue and idle issues. Everything else about the kit is great and I’m hoping that future improvements will allow for use of GM accessories and maybe a more reliable way to position the crank sensor. #hatersgonnahate

@@levosinovsky8408 thanks for that!!

I agree you could save some money doing more leg work. I wanted an aluminum block so that is some additional cost and there is no aluminum block drive by cable out there. And depends on what your time is worth labor wise removing the engine and parting out the spare truck. But I agree that it is a good way to make this more affordable. Appreciate the response and I’m sure it will help some other people considering this but in the edge cost wise.

Sport mode still works. That was one of the things that drew me to the ACE kit.

@@LostCauseRanch thank you! That’s awesome!!

I think there is ways to get it done in California but I have no expertise in that by any means. I think you have to get a gm engine from the same year or newer and retain all the emissions equipment. But I’m not exactly sure.

You can. You only need a GEN 3 LS engine. So any 4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0 from 97-06 will work. You just need a newer engine than your vehicle so if you had a 2003, just find an 04-06 engine.

Nop smog failing will bring you rig to a non cal operating vehicle so keep you tags for the plates

That was my thoughts as well. Used to losing mpgs this time of year.

I imagine if you wanted you could probably hurt the 4hp22 with the extra power. We have a RRC that we have the LS swap stuff sitting here for it. We are doing the gm 4L80e transmission in that one though.

That transmission was used in BMWs 8 series cars and those pushed some numbers too. Weight is different tho

I have a cammed 5.3 with the HP22 with 10k miles under it's belt. No issues thus far.

@@xm3ntal620 what’s the specs

It has the factory map in the pcm so it can run 87 without issue.

I just went for a low mileage one that looked clean and had some sort of guarantee. It was from a salvage yard. We’ve had decent luck over the years just going with a seller that has good feedback and quality/clean looking engines.

Go buy a wrecked or blown transmission GMT800 Tahoe or something off marketplace for $1,500. Take the engine and part the rest. Free LS. Probably make money honestly.

No emissions testing for us. This does have cats still so it’s good there. But the egr and secondary air and rear o2 sensors were tuned out so certain states it would not pass. But I believe you can set it up to keep all the emissions equipment.

@@LostCauseRanch Really all the original emissions system would still work?

I just passed emissions testing in Colorado!!!

@@patgleason2993 any chance I could ask you a few questions about that? I’m trying to get mine set up to pass in AZ and would like to talk to someone who has actually retained the emissions as the ACE directions don’t explicitly cover that.

​@@patgleason2993I'm in Denver and am considering the LM4 swap in my 99 D2. Do you have any tips you've learned that aren't obvious to get it to pass here? Such as what they require for a swap to pass

I’m a 5.0 fan myself.

I haven’t personally talked to them in a bit. I know I’m the past he would go in streaks of being harder to contact. In the past he did the kits in runs and the ease of contact kind of went along with that. I’m guessing this is a side business for them but I’m not sure.

@@LostCauseRanch thanks for that how is yours running I caught your final KZfaq yesterday on your build.

i have been trying to get in touch with them to buy the kit , but no reply . did u get to buy from them ? @@cliffwalton5799

A diesel would be a good swap as well. We do have a little 4 cylinder diesel coming for one of the older Rovers. Hopefully that shows soon. A nice stock TJ Rubicon is a good piece to have these days.

I did not recalibrate the speedometer, but I did calculate in the tire diameter difference into the equation.

The 2003 would be a little more challenging if you wanted to integrate it all into the factory Land Rover system being it is the later model BMW engined one.

That’s funny. Now if only I could amass his car collection.

Haha. It is a little intense in some sense.

It would have gone quite a bit quicker on our end if we didn’t film, but that probably tripled the time invested but hopefully it gives people a good sense of what the swap takes.

That is just the parts. I would almost imagine you would double that for all in coat with labor for most shops to do it.

Yes haha, the 35s on stick gearing definitely didn’t help. Along with my right foot with the new excitement of having more power.

@@LostCauseRanch I wonder if it’s possible to get 20 mpg with stock tires and no lift?

Just to be clear, a Discovery HSE or are you speaking of a Range Rover HSE? It will work on the 04 Discovery HSE.

Physically yes, I think ACE may have something in the works on that but I’m not sure.

That’s on my bucket list someday too!

@@LostCauseRanch love everything except the 4.4l money pit under the hood.

Yes haha.

For the Discovery 2 2003 was the year without them. 99-02 had them but no linkage installed to operate them. 2004 had the cdl and the linkage installed from the factory.

1999-2001 (only 1/2 way through the 2001 year) had the diff lock in the transfer case, but no lever connecting it. The 2002-2003 did not have it at all. The 2004 brought it back with a shifter cable.

I think they have a different kit for the D1s. Last time I looked it was in testing but available, they recommend a 4.8 though to help the transmission since the early Disco isn’t as robust.

@@LostCauseRanch I see. The D1 have basically the same frame and body as the D2 except the D1 engines 3.9 and 4.0 where better than the junky 4.6 engines.. I would have thought it should have been the same. But I guess it's the bell housing part to the trans

If you do want one they are on www.thelostcauseranch.com

Definitely would make a difference with the large upsize in tire.

Yep, that was the total for parts without some minor shop supplies and fluids. Did not factor any labor into that cost.

@@LostCauseRanch cheers , only commented for the people who wanted to know how much you spent doing the conversion

How can I get in touch with you guys

I would love that as well.

I believe it may be in the future with the ACE kit. I’m not sure how the integrations would work with the picky ebcm they have.

@@LostCauseRanch thank you for taking the time to reply

@@KaosTheory89 No problem. I actually have a P38 that may get swapped over. But it will be more of an off-road buggy style deal if I do and I probably won’t be worried about integration to the factory electronics. Axles will probably be swapped as well. That’s a down the road project though.