A Flower In The Storm | Vintage Cube Draft

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5 ай бұрын

Black Lotus is the perfect excuse to draft storm, but can it really succeed in a tough team draft?
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@ghostbeardz2000 5 ай бұрын

I love when a new draft begins with the sound of Luis laughing. Hearing the sound of a Lotus being opened is such a great way to start the day. May the Power 9 always bless us all!

@PopeGoliath 5 ай бұрын

The first time in history that lsv says he can't complain about opening power.

@bigwig8657 5 ай бұрын

Displacer kitten doing absolute work in this deck.

@FunnyGeorgeLopez 5 ай бұрын

Ya - came to comment on the kitty. Seems to be a strong win condition in a lot of decks. Wonder why it is normally picked in the second half of a pack.

@TehTime 5 ай бұрын

@@FunnyGeorgeLopez I do think you need quite a lot of pieces to really get it going, a critical mass of targets worth blinking which is why it I think people try to wheel it after they've seen a whole pack

@FunnyGeorgeLopez 5 ай бұрын

Lump it in with other powerful payoffs like portal, brain freeze, atroxa, etc? Make sense to me. I guess it has a little more flexibility as it can do something in most decks but perhaps is too vulnerable as a low toughness creature.

@FunnyGeorgeLopez 5 ай бұрын

@@TehTime mean to say what you added makes sense to me. I guess the super high picks tend to be powerful on their own

@TehTime 5 ай бұрын

@@FunnyGeorgeLopez yeah exactly right

@subtleknife1 5 ай бұрын

The kitten+jewel combo was just so clutch for this deck

@twistedshananigans 5 ай бұрын

36:02 it says a lot about the Initiative as a mechanic that even after playing so much of it in cube, even LSV doesn't know that Throne of the Dead Three forces a shuffle lol. As always thank you so much for the daily cube content! Loving every second

@PAPP0NE 5 ай бұрын

To be fair basically every other effect that says to look/reveal the top x cards then instructs you to put them to the bottom, your brain just fills in the text of the effect

@thymidine 5 ай бұрын

When will LSV recognize that Displacer Kitten is his spirit animal?

@kendalcannon8858 5 ай бұрын

I love how every draft LSV explains why he's passing kitten, and the times he does take kitten its insane

@thedoctorbob7 5 ай бұрын

While I love kitten, it's also a 4cmc card and you can only have so many of those in the deck. It's also less important than a lot of other busted cards he usually takes over it. Like, taking swords or vault or demonic tutor or even fury over it seems like a no brainer, and that's usually the sort of card he does take over it.

@kendalcannon8858 5 ай бұрын

Oh no 100%, it's not the kinda card you can fit in any deck. But the decks that can use it go from alright to insane the second it hits the field.

@Vermilio893 5 ай бұрын

Opening a lotus every single time is actually really unlucky, as you get to have no complain equity!

@josephmozena7640 5 ай бұрын

Thassa's Oracle is best with Doomsday, but I think it's also pickable with an early Brain Freeze. It's not quite as necessary because Brain Freeze is a kill condition already, but it gives you game against Eldrazi and the like, and some decks are pretty good at tearing through their own library but don't consistently generate enough storm to make Brain Freeze a reliable kill. I won't take it over actual good stuff, but I'm willing to pick an Oracle in pack 1 if I start out storm but notice that stuff isn't wheeling, as a hedge against kill-less combo. I also once had a deck with Birgi/Horn of Harnfel where my kill condition was Horn, draw 7s, Lion's Eye, Oracle, but that's definitely a corner case. Edit: Just got to the Brain Freeze pick. At that point it basically has to be Oracle.

@jakx2ob 5 ай бұрын

I think it was something he drafted before breach got printed.

@Anusien 5 ай бұрын

As I said yesterday, I kind of believe that first picking a Lotus actually decreases LSV’s win percentage because it tempts him into “after all, why shouldn’t I?” storm. Let’s see what happens.

@Jingoa 5 ай бұрын

Lotus theory in shambles

@listeningtomusic7665 5 ай бұрын

But playing Storm is worth it!

@Anusien 5 ай бұрын

Myth certainly seems busted

@Dr_Bayes 5 ай бұрын

Marshall: "Storm is dead in modern cube." LSV: "Hold my beer."

@burnsida 5 ай бұрын

Good thing this is vintage and not modern 😆

@ZeroIsEven 5 ай бұрын

Starting a Displacer Kitten Fan Club

@thomaskauffman250 5 ай бұрын

This was a super fun draft. Thank you for being awesome and giving us this storm content.

@trevorsmith8903 5 ай бұрын

Remember the last fresh pack pick of tendrils but chat went so nuts on how lucky LSV was that he didn’t even play it. Won with some jank instead. “If you draw your deck, make infinite mana, you’ll find a way to win…”

@fpejanovic 5 ай бұрын

you can "find a way to win" 100% of the time in some MTGO cube draft, but in the 4v4s (where you pod draft) that's not going to happen

@xShadowxKun 5 ай бұрын

I haven't watched this video in full (just put it on), but reading the title is me hoping we have the return of LSV forcing Storm like in the old CFB cube videos

@aronshimada7327 5 ай бұрын

Luis “I never open Power” Vargas 😉

@r2dezki 5 ай бұрын

This deck was super cool, displacer kitten is something that makes coveted jewel absolutely nuts.

@su0tin731 5 ай бұрын

This is the kind of deck I love, amazing to play and watch being played.

@timmifransson 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic deck once again! No cantrips/tutors but the draws were favorable this time and led to some insane plays! There´s alot of enyojment watching you combo out againt average players in the mtgo cues but seeing you do it against the best vintagecubers in the world is on a whole different level! Good games :)

@anthonyjs8048 5 ай бұрын

Favorite lsv draft archetype is definitely storm, especially when high tide is involved, so this was an absolute treat for me to watch. Thanks!

@dogboneman69 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for all the entertaining vids, Luis!

@thomasschlectic5675 5 ай бұрын

Displacer Kitten FINALLY getting the love it deserves from LSV

@benjaminsouthworth5698 5 ай бұрын

Lsv doing this draft right after the pod where Marshall spent the whole time bemoaning the death of storm is awesome lol

@Spaccaspecchi 5 ай бұрын

What pod was that? Did Marshall stream?

@benjaminsouthworth5698 5 ай бұрын

@@Spaccaspecchilimited resources

@MarylandBF 5 ай бұрын

It's so wholesome to see Storm finally get its day again

@iloverufio200 5 ай бұрын

I live for spicy storm brews piloted by LSV

@johnporter9833 2 ай бұрын

Loved the comentary on that last game

@aretwodeetoo1181 5 ай бұрын

I've lost track of how many times LSV's "lets start with frantic search" led to a winning game state. Hasn't happened in a while, but it's always fun when it does.

@eaglesandbruinsfan 5 ай бұрын

wow that extra final game was amazing thats why i love cube

@adamwasburn-moses2284 5 ай бұрын

47:30 you can twister, fon ur own twister, and then tendrils for exact

@zacharyadler4071 5 ай бұрын

Displacer Kitten was an absolute all star. Wow

@goldcobraarima9819 5 ай бұрын

39:35 glad you saw that too :D

@ryandemarco4178 5 ай бұрын

I need to know the stakes of these drafts. Friendly banter and bragging rights just can't be enough!

@TheJMFG 5 ай бұрын

G1M2 you mentioned that don't want to get Wandering Emperor, but your teammate had both wandering and resto, so no big deal in the end but most likely a missed attack there

@roarmalf 5 ай бұрын

"that probably wasn't perfectly done"

@roarmalf 5 ай бұрын

"the last bit of that turn was very poorly played, you don't need to put that in the comments"

@painterdubs 5 ай бұрын

I love these videos. I've learned a lot from you playing these insane storm decks. Do you withdraw your previous statement about kitten? It's insane in the broken decks.

@BetaJim22 5 ай бұрын

1:09:25 Here you're supposed to go Vault+Lotus+High Tide THEN go for candle untapping FOUR lands and then you DO have enough to spiral even if the Jewel is countered. If played perfectly could have ended up casting mentor and tide and tendrils after for the win

@bradyoo 5 ай бұрын

I think this is my first time watching Comet hit the board and still be not enough.

@mattie3875 5 ай бұрын

Comet vs Emrakul, the true cosmic battle.

@orychowaw 5 ай бұрын

"I wouldn't put a 0-mana 2/1 in my deck"... life lesson right there!

@fatdogwiggle 5 ай бұрын

I watch these videos daily and it certainly feels like you get flooded frequently.

@AlleCampani 4 ай бұрын

I see the argument for go to the face with comet but he really should have killed Jace there. The question there for boros is "how can I lose this game". One way is sneak with double red (but he only had one) and the other is a discard outlet, a giant monster and a reanimation spell. If I'm boros and I'm certain that with 5 to the face I'm gonna kill them the next turn then I go for it, otherwise I kill the discard outlet.

@minimayers 5 ай бұрын

That last game was WILD

@codetaku 5 ай бұрын

1:02:14 "if he had re-drawn force of will, I was dead" actually that wasn't even true, look back at the game state at 1:01:46, you were going to have enough mana to cast yawg will, then RE-CAST coveted jewel from your graveyard. You were about to untap grim monolith, and you still had 1 black mana available from watery grave for yawg will which would get you a second grim monolith untap. That game was in the bag and you didn't even realize it lmao

@trentjones5881 5 ай бұрын

Lsv forgot his raincoat for this one!!! The definition of “you got vintaged”

@brunodebarrosgoncalves1560 5 ай бұрын

Displacer MVP!

@Joshuralize 5 ай бұрын

LSV drafting storm? Just like the good old days!

@MrArbaras 5 ай бұрын

The cat's out of the bag.

@marcogoncalves3207 5 ай бұрын

Insane deck!

@cymerdown 5 ай бұрын

Can't believe you passed up the chance to go Lotus tribal in the first 3 picks: Black Lotus, Lotus Cobra, Lotus Field! So disappoint :(

@nickandrews9269 5 ай бұрын

Live it up. You're now due for a long Power drought!

@lucasazevedo3210 5 ай бұрын

The more Kitten is disrespected in drafts and comments, the more it wins games

@corruptedsmurf260 5 ай бұрын

I think when troll cast brainsorm at 1:21:07 he forgot LSV had a Narsett in play...

@timaderhold1203 5 ай бұрын

The only thing I don’t understand is the white border Seething song 😂 Why not the mirrodin one? 😂

@LSVargas 5 ай бұрын

Too lazy to

@TehTime 5 ай бұрын

@@LSVargas an answer as old as time

@thebeersandthebees 5 ай бұрын

Is this cube sized so that the entire pool gets opened in an 8pod?

@lorenzohot5234 5 ай бұрын

No I believe 2/3 of the cards are open on any given draft.

@alexanderdickens2517 5 ай бұрын

It’s 540 (the most common size for cubes), and in a draft there’s 360 (45x8)

@lorenzohot5234 5 ай бұрын

The math checks out 🤣

@grantwu407 5 ай бұрын

At 1:10:03 I feel like you just High Tide off artifact mana into Time Spiral, skipping the Dynamo. Coveted Jewel is already a good flicker target and High Tide is worth about the same amount of mana with Turnabout for artifacts because of Candelabra. Is there something I'm missing?

@grantwu407 5 ай бұрын

I guess you don't have a Dynamo in play, but it seemed like LSV was trying to go off that turn...

@brianh5844 5 ай бұрын

Came here to post this. It didn't really matter because he bricked that turn regardless of how much mana he had, but it definitely would have been better to high tide with lotus into the time spiral. You're drawing 7 cards and it nets 5 additional mana compared to dynamo which puts you down a mana. The way this particular game played out, it was probably better for LSV to have the dynamo in play, but he couldn't know he was going to brick that hard, so it definitely was the right play to high tide IMO.

@danielhenry6777 5 ай бұрын

memory jar always feels bad when i cast it

@jakx2ob 5 ай бұрын

Love the addition of DIsrupt. It's such a rude card.

@kurowasanabe 5 ай бұрын

Let's see if he can break the Lotus curse.

@levantran9740 5 ай бұрын

Still bummed that LSV didn't 3-0 from yesterday's lotus and time walk deck.

@pugthemaster8 5 ай бұрын

Worlds goodest cat monster

@robertobrien3562 5 ай бұрын

11am and time for another draft

@Spaccaspecchi 5 ай бұрын

Poor Updraft Elemental cannot catch a break. That person spends 50 quid on every draft.

@jaspervandervaart6966 5 ай бұрын

hey luis. is it possible to link your cube in the description? thx in advance

@stasjovb 5 ай бұрын

1:10:57 could have gone manavault lotus cracked lotus for blue high tide use manavault and blue to untap all island floating blue and arti mana for jewel and have 6 mana for timespiral using hightide so you would untap 8 mana

@Jarathi 5 ай бұрын

Commenting for the algo boost.

@franciscorendon6955 5 ай бұрын

GRUUL WANT STONE RAIN IN CUBE

@YourXavier 5 ай бұрын

Temple Garden?!? 😆

@lorenzohot5234 5 ай бұрын

Hey LSV, does Matt Nass play Vintage Cube?

@Trisket 5 ай бұрын

4am and time for another draft

@talencross 5 ай бұрын

Please put in Cad Bloom, Squandered Resources, Braingeyser or Prosperity

@marcsteinbruegge254 5 ай бұрын

Haven't seen a storm draft in quiet a while. although nothing beats when you stormed into siege gang goblin and seiged the win. Side note: What's the over/under of getting a Cheon co-drafter in one of these videos? That would be such a blast. I really enjoyed catching his stream.

@roarmalf 5 ай бұрын

1pm and time for another draft

@user-xz6xy5tn8s 5 ай бұрын

storm storm storm!

@j.walker6845 5 ай бұрын

I'm confused, in the last game why didn't Luis lose to brain freeze?

@AlleCampani 4 ай бұрын

cause he does not have to draw and he win that vero turn with yawghmoth will and tendrils

@AdmiralArgon 5 ай бұрын

Jewels Meow

@makidiaz3894 5 ай бұрын

Add tidebinder to cube please 😢

@arteindue 5 ай бұрын

Classic storm is the most entertaining archetype to watch!

@raymondshiner1046 5 ай бұрын

Hey LSV, you know there's a setting to auto turn on "no possible play yield all" automatically at the beginning of every round right?

@thomasbarbieri7939 4 ай бұрын

Anyone wants to join a group to play cube online?

@puff_l8392 5 ай бұрын

you upload so fast might as well take out the middle man and stream the games!!

@lLenn2 5 ай бұрын

Somebody's stream sniping you

@alexanderfinchler5010 5 ай бұрын

Has updraft 0-3d every draft on the channel so far?😅

@alexanderhamilton3309 5 ай бұрын

Day 3 of advocating for the inclusion of [[Stifle]] in the LSV cube, or an explanation of why it's not good enough for the cube.

@rodrigoarcher2938 5 ай бұрын

nothing beats stifling a fetchland on turn one lmao

@roarmalf 5 ай бұрын

Day 1 of piggy backing on this comment to recommend Negate.

@gnaughtytrolls 5 ай бұрын

Why would he add a card that wrecks his favorite archetype, storm?

@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters 5 ай бұрын

Your opponent might knock you out though so stay safe. @@rodrigoarcher2938

@shakeyownz 5 ай бұрын

Even trickbind would be acceptable

@damanstover2035 5 ай бұрын

Day 2 of asking Luis for a dog draft

@cesarramon4636 5 ай бұрын

@dth10101 5 ай бұрын

First comment

@Stokkeland23 5 ай бұрын

I think cube would be better if everybody was offered the exact same 15 sideboard cards + your regular sideboard. And you can pick TWO out of the 15 cards everybody is offered for game 2-3. This would make it so unfair decks would have to work a little bit harder. Think that would be a great addition to how cube functions and help level the playing field.

@Anusien 5 ай бұрын

Having to draft your sideboard is a good thing. If you just get bailed out by having a standard set of cards, it’s less fun. You see in the draft portion that LSV is often forced to choose between a narrow maindeck card and a good sideboard card, or a good sideboard card versus a potential hate draft.

@Stokkeland23 5 ай бұрын

@@Anusien Nah, there's not enough sideboard cards in the cube to begin with. You can't really draft a sideboard. You take a sideboard card only if there isn't anything to improve your deck. That's the problem. There are no cards like grafdiggers cage or null rod in the cube. And i think they need to be in the cube for games 2 and 3. My personal opinion. It would improve the cube and level the playing field. Also it would improve skill.

@pauldaulby260 5 ай бұрын

Part of the point is to be unfair

@swiftdragonrider 5 ай бұрын

@@Stokkeland23level the plain filed is reduce skill first of all. Second why would you want extremely powerful and narrow sideboard card to be available? To destroy the unfair decks?

@Stokkeland23 5 ай бұрын

@@swiftdragonrider To balance the cube more. Without sideboard cards blue/black and artifacts dominate over red/green and white is in the middle.