>It multiplies the chances of everything "And if everyone's super... no one is."

i don't like how they made luck work in this game. It's deceptive and straight up detrimental for most use cases. wtf.

Ain't no way i was running a 350 luck build to farm troll pelts 😭😭😭

Man I almost wished I didn't see this, I thought I was making more money long term by investing in a luck pot before every HR run :(

It's not a bug, it's just a bad system. attaching the gold coin drops to gray, white, and green luck grades was something the devs did to make luck better for getting skull keys. They are perfectly aware how the system works, they designed it to be this way. But yeah, I agree it's bad.

I am selling all my luck items now 😂

Lol what a hilarious oversight

there goes my luck set no wonder i barely get epic on my luck runs

Like you said don’t forget the pile after cyclop / troll so if you want AP to rank up it’s still worth getting a luck potion even if you miss out on a few pelts

Loved the video and the breakdown of luck. However, around 11:05 you said that you should have the luckiest member loot the boss. Did they recently change it? For the longest time, the drop from a mob was populated as soon as they died, meaning the loot is already on the body before you open it. Has that been changed, or should I still let my luckiest teammate get the killing blow?

Is the wiki getting the drop rates from testing or from the game files? I have definitely been burned by bad info on the wiki before.

Instant like 20 sec in due to OSRS music. Oh yeah, the dark and darker video was pretty cool too. Edit: Yo would you be able to put in the description what OSRS songs you use? Asking for a friend, thanks!

What about for royal gems?

I am pretty sure lions head chests are less common on normal vs high roller.

I get way more valuable trinkets with luck on, but the troll pelt drops less with luck yeah

@SolomonDandD 11:07 Are you sure it is about who loots the boss? Is it a fact? Because from what i know: The loot gets generated on kill. With that information, the boss has to be killed by the guy with the most luck.

Why am I even surprised, its IronHammer

Here's a doozy of a gold farming strat if you're good/crazy enough to pull it off: 1. Max luck bard kit 2. Double boss GC 3. Take off gear to loot bosses 4. Pop potion of luck and hit all three gold piles 5. Mine gold ore If you have a good trio your luck kits will be put to better use farming HR bosses for skull keys. Supplement your bard with a cleric and warlock for the ultimate PvE clearing trio. It's also an incredible comp for PvP, with each class having enough flexibility in builds for a variety of playstyles. Hydra / Earthquake / Shriek of Weakness when timed correctly will delete anyone who tries to push you.

Maybe im pea brain smooth brain, but I dont understand how it's not helpful to have luck when opening chests. If when boosting luck, it LOWERS the chances of finding grey/white, but HIGHTENS the chances of getting blue/purple, would that mean luck is beneficial? Perhapse im entirely misunderstanding.

does luck work at the goblin merchant thought id ask

When I run really high luck in hr goblin caves I for sure get way more legendary sellables when I have 0 luck I almost never get any vs a full luck set I get between 2-4 almost every time. This is tested with a sample size of around 50 games. Either it’s an insane coincidence or it’s doing something we aren’t aware of.

I feel luck would be amazing if it would exclude cracked and common items from higher tier spots. Or uncommon and rare in HR. Like 50 would remove cracked from some places. Then 150 would remove poor quality from almost all sources, and common from some sources. Then lets say, 300 would completely remove poor qualilty, mostly removed common, and remove uncommon and rare from some places. Edit: It should eat its percentage chance from the chance of not dropping anything rather than cannibalize other drop chances.

Who did provided those numbers? If not devs, how can you know?

i have a max luck set and ive gotten two mystical gems back to back from troll seems to work for me

Thank you sir 🤙🌊

What about champions for gold keys???

Well, I'm stoked that I sold all my luck gear for an absurd amount before this!

luck should only work for epic or higher. that's the problem. if you get a luck kit on, it shouldn't multiply blue or less because that's not why you wear it lol. it should literally only make purple + more common to get, and that's a huge issue from a developmental viewpoint. It really doesnt make sense to have something multiply the chances of EVERYTHING to be greater. Im sure they could easily implement epic's + only being affected by luck as well. if anything, make luck roll less blue/green/gray/whites, that could also be a solution the this problem. Just make luck roll less of the shitty stuff and more of the good.

This is nit fulky right. One example is let the guy with the luck loot. No. Its who gets the kill. Looting only counts in containers. The drop is rolled on kill for mobs.

Runescape music is always a suscribe in My book

Devs please fix this

One night with pots I was pulling purples and legendary the next day same strat same pots nothing just greens and blues I knew it was broken

I only buy potions for gold pile runs. It did absolutely Jack squat in normal matches.

This video is wrong. I run a 355 luck set with potion and literally every item is blue in high roller. If you're only testing on normal then your loot tables are already nerfed. So luck has less impact

I dont get it. With the lionhead example in bot instances(both hr and normals) the chance shifts in favor of the higher rarity loot. Yeh the increase is greater in normals, but the total chance in hr after luck is still higher. This is in line with everything else in the game. You always get diminishing returns. Its the same with health pots. You pay more than double for a few seconds shaved off of the lower duration health pots. If you look at coin value per hp, the lowest grade health pots give way more value, but the slight advantage of healing a little bit faster is worth something in certain situations. So even though % increase is lower in hr you still end up with a larger chance. Its a flattening curve. Same with attribute scaling. After 40 will every point of will is only worth 1 point of magic power bonus. Maybe you are pointing out something I am missing here. Please enlighten me. At 4:00 you say it's multiplying all of the grades. That is not what the table shows. It shows that it detracts from the chance of epics and increases the two others. At 3:40 you can see the table shows epic weapns go from 9.34% to 9.28% This means that legendaries and uniques both have an increased chance of dropping while epics have a decreased chance. Luck is not a multiplier, it's a shift. It shifts chance form lower tier to higher tier, so that on average you end up with higher tier loot. The sum chance when you add all categories always have to end up at 100%. Again I'm sorry if I am completely missing the point here. Maybe i'm on deep water. Yeh at 9:00 the fact that it also detracts from a lower tier quest item is senseless. It should only detract from junk and leave the others alone. Also the pelt is not really valuable for it's role as a quest item, but rather as a material. For this reason quest items should have an exclusive use for only quests and not also as crafting materials. I think if quest items were exclusive to quests and not for any other use even the shift from rare to epic is less problematic. Because you should statistically find the less rare item before the more rare one regardless. The only reason it's a problem with the troll pelt, is because the troll pelt is more attractive than the club for its use in crafting. If it wasn't then the shift would be desired, even though you are less likely to find the pelt. Of course its also a problem if someone just wants to increase their chance of finding a pelt for a quest and do not know that this is how it works, they assume luck will help them, but in reality it will make it harder for them to get the desired item.

that site is outdated, they changed the odds to get some stuff. named items are like 3x more common now.

Luck is so you get that shitty quest for royal gems in 98hours instead 100h, lol anyway good video

High roller is higher though. 2.8 is higher than 0.5

When I run around 100 luck in Goblins(Normal) I usually get a lot more blues/epics from looting chests. Not just Lions Heads or Goldens or the the Boss chests. Open more chests!

math is off, you dont account for a luck potion that gives a base of 50 upwards to 150 luck. It's super easy to get luck gear and stack the 50/100/150 on top

So its basically a spaghetti code issue lol

I was consistently getting better treasure and legendaries in duo frost mountain while my duo was not. Are we sure it's bugged?

How unlucky 💀

Im just using luck to farm those bangle quest items. Got 6/11 in 2 hours

0:15 I was very confused when you started trying to multiply drop chances by the values in the Luck Scalar Table; right in the screenshot of the wiki you used here, you can see above the table it says, "The calculation is not a simple multiplication, so do not expect Uniques to be 4.382 times more common at 500 Luck." It makes me feel like you didn't actually do your research before making this video... Your title and description are also misleading. Nowhere did you provide any evidence of a bug, and in fact you actually provided evidence that Luck *does* do something - just not always what you want it to do. All that said, I would agree that Luck shouldn't be so confusing/hard to understand and use properly. People shouldn't have to look up tables and graphs on a wiki in order to figure out whether they actually want to be using Luck or not.

Thanks I guess 😭

350 luck is better than no luck either way lol. Even normal ghost King can drop skull key.

waisted so much gold on luck gear lol....

Avoid luck and or buying gear for luck

They should just make LUCK stat for ACTUAL LUCKY EVENT like, - DODGING TRAPS MIGHT DISARM ITSELF - ARROW MIGHT DEFLECT FROM YOUR SHIELD AND BOUNCE BACK TO SHOOTER - DURING PVP, MOBS MIGHT RANDOMLY DECIDE TO ATTACK THE OTHER DUDE, WHY? WELL CUZ YOU ARE LUCKY! - SOMETIMES LOOTED CHEST MIGHT SPAWN EXTRA ITEM - POISON SOMETIMES HEAL YOU - BACKSTABBING FROM BEHIND SOMETIMES ONESHOTS! (NO PLAYERS, ONLY SMALL MINIONS) - SOMETIMES CASTING SPELLS TWO TIMES WITH EXTRA COST IN FAST SUCCESSION - SOMETIMES YOU OUTSTANDS THE LAST BLOW BEFORE YOUR LAST 1 HP BECAUSE FUCK IT, LUCK! something like that, devs could be a lot more creative with this.

I do hr AP grinding runs and I get significantly better lootables when I run high luck. this title is complete clickbait and your analysis is lacking.

Luck should have different weights for different rarities. Easy fix

This information is basically just wrong. So much research for a false result.

> "if everything is X times as common, nothing is". Not everything is more common : least rare drop less and more rare drops more as the luck gets scaled. Maybe you're frustrated about the fact it scales less in HR, on bosses or whatnot but this looks 100% intended. Also, coming from Path of Exile, "item quantity" (equivalent of luck) has been very problematic in this game, there has been patches where you made no money if you didnt stack the "item quantity" while farming. So I understand they don't wanna make it too op in DnD.

Maybe just don't believe the wiki......luck had definitely helped me more epics 10 fold. The wiki is probably just ummmm.......uhhhhh......incorrect? Lol but go ahead sell all your luck gear 😅😂 please!