Hahah that's the best comment, pinned! Hope ya doing well, and good to confirm the PCB fabrication blessings aren't just a rumour 😋😂

@@PlatimaTinkers Thank You mate. Hope all is well with you as well. Will drink one in your name tonight. Cheers.

@@user-wv5fg9im3v Cheers! Just busy packing and shipping Milk-V Duo S orders after the stock finally turned up 😅

Yep hoping it wasn't just lost in translation haha. Will see what my lovely account manager says about this video 😅

Absolutely seconded! And sorry for the delay, KZfaq didn't send me a notification 😑

Excellent idea! Did not even think of that, cheers

I've got ~90 left in stock, go for it 😋 And good idea too, that'd be a cool project to see unfold! Just go get some mates to upvote your comment to increase your chances of winning one at least hah.

Hey mate if you haven't bought one... or more.. yet, this one is all yours! Email me your details and I'll post it out :) Sorry didn't get to it in the last pre-recorded video, and did not get around to recording one this weekend! Congrats, and thanks for your support!

@@PlatimaTinkers Oh! Awesome! I'll shoot you my details! Thanks a lot :D

@@tollertup :D

So worth it. I think this may currently be my favourite SBC

That it is! Pretty good for CV applications, which is likely going to be my main use case

I think 128MB and above is plenty. As you could see it was only using 9-24MB of the ~190MB doing nothing. Plenty of headroom to run web server, comms apps, etc. With the Milk-V you could also make use of the 2x RV64 cores, and have one core with the UI, and the RTOS core running the drone firmware you write. Memory is usually chewed up by processing media on the CPU, which these do in the ISP, so the CPU and most RAM is left there doing nearly nothing.

This is the ticket for that then! I've got one customer interested in something similar. The hardest part would be setting up the CI/CD so any plates it doesn't recognise goes into the queue, then occasionally all the new plates go into the MV model, gets re-trained/compiled, and then uploaded to the eSBC and then rebooted.

Yeah I am considering doing that with the 4K lens on it so it's easier for me to cut to another angle when doing something odd like soldering in front of the main lens. And sorry for the delay, KZfaq didn't send me a notification 😑

That is an excellent idea! I love astrophotography so fully support this. Just get it setup with stepper, controller, etc. PS if you've not already, go check out the stuff Ian at Lonely Speck does!

Nice one re getting Alpine onto the SPI flash, that is some damn low power consumption! That really sucks you let out the magic smoke though. You can get them with pre-soldered headers, but I've not actually seen them stocked anywhere - just referred to in the stock codes with a 'H' at the end from memory. And yeah the VBUS pin connects to the 5V from USB-C, so you can give that 5V directly to power it :)

How did you set it up? I followed Pico Max official documentation , its very confusing , Im still not able to set it up

It is confusing indeed! As it is just a google translated post from Chinese... Let me know in which step you are stuck, otherwise there going to be a very long text. Perhaps, @PlatinaTinkers could do a video about it?

@@project-north It would be great if @PlatinaTinkers makes a video on it as online no such resources available for the steup. I dont know why ethernet connection is needed , they mentioned ADB connection with that I was able to see the files inside the OS, after thatn mentioned SDK for ubunut and macos, Im stuck on that SDK step. I use windows

I just jumped straight to the Alpine Linux Porting (1) part in the PicoQuality Community Sharing chapter in Wiki. Followed exactly as it was written and the Alpine booted to NAND-flash. You would need a usb-to-serial device to change network details via putty. It was shown how to do it in this channel in another video about pico

... it'd help if you watched the video... or any of the videos... or read the documentation 😑

Great to hear! I'd be super curious to see how they go with the RC planes. I take it you watch rctestflight? And sorry for the delay, KZfaq didn't send me a notification 😑

Yep! I'm really enjoying playing with them too!

Interesting idea! I used to do header pins pointing up, as I did in the Pico Mini video from memory, but then have found that makes some things difficult. Primarily I'd just love some M2 mounting holes, or even notches that can clip into a 3D printed case. That's a very insignificant feature request though!

@@PlatimaTinkers Since for my use I need some interface circuitry, I designed multiple 'motherboards' for the upside down ESP32 modules. These boards then have easy mounting for 3d printed cases. The only down side is the buttons etc are hidden, but we don't want anyone pushing the buttons anyway. Also the space between the socket headers has some room for the interface stuff. The Pico Max may be a good alternative to the WT32-ETH modules.

@@DavidGranz Ah okay, interesting. Good to know! Cheers

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That 3Dprint monitoring is an excellent idea!

​ @PlatimaTinkers How to train for something as nebulous as smoke, though? 🙂

@@PuceBaboon Hrmm, could be doable I think! Buy one and find out 😋

@@PlatimaTinkers Got one already. Too busy using it to try training, though (uptime in excess of 40 days ...and only that short because a thunderstorm took out the mains supply). 🙂

​@@PuceBaboon Oh awesome, let me know if you ever get around to it! Decent uptime for an SBC too, Get a UPS though :P

Thanks mate much appreciated!

That is super awesome! You ain't wrong about uclibc though, it's bit my ass a few times and made me want to snap the SBC in half 🤣 And sorry for the delay, KZfaq didn't send me a notification 😑

I don't see how this wouldn't be possible; Cortex-A7 (armv7) is supported by FreeBSD as Tier2, even if the RV1106 isn't directly. Ideally you just need a FreeBSD Docker image for it to make the process as easy as Alpine was (if that was an option)!

Oh these instructions don't actually look too bad: wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Build_image_using_release_building_infrastructure

@@PlatimaTinkers Yes it should definitely be possible, but I'd just like submit the necessary patches for official upstream support, using this device as a testing platform! I'd love to see more tiny SBCs in use with FreeBSD and would love to work on that myself.

@@svmhdvn Go for it, I am sure it'd be appreciated by the community!

Yup, I'd like to see that, too. Good idea!

Yeah not a bad idea at all. I'd go for the Duo S as it has the 15p1 connector, then use a good 4K camera like the IMX415 or IMX219 - whatever is supported. I've got a few here I need to test with it!

This fella: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJlhZcKB1KzZoqc.html&lc=Ugztf3NX6gCR-PkWZWJ4AaABAg Threw in some extras in the end too. Looking forward to seeing the audio streamer network!

Not a bad idea! Would take some tinkering 😋

That is awesome to hear. I'll make not to post something about it when I do; either on here or Reddit! And sorry for the delay, KZfaq didn't send me a notification 😑

When you build your Alpine image you can specify them using `apk add`. By default it comes with a lot, but not all of them. You can see the 'alpine-base' package here: pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86/alpine-base (note it can be slow to load at times!)

@@PlatimaTinkers Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your answer or if you're misunderstanding my question. Alpine default has busybox, which includes bash, less, wget. Are you using Alpine without busybox?

@@Crftbt OH right yeah, when I built my Alpine image I chose to use bash instead of busybox.

@@PlatimaTinkers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa93ZbNq0JypmnU.html

That is excellent, thank you kindly!

Yeah man do it, that sounds awesome. No Ardupilot, so I guess... Picopilot needs to be a thing? 😅 In this case though I guess it'd be PocketPilot or very similar.

In the words of a great man; "Make it so". (hub.docker.com/r/agners/archlinuxarm)

Yeah there is the shop.plati.ma/products/5mp-sbc-camera which has an OV5647 sensor and standard 15p1 connector so you'd need an adapter cable to suit the janky Luckfox 20pin connector, else use a baseboard.

@@PlatimaTinkers does the adapter cable exist somewhere?

@@DavidGranz Not that I know of. I'm considering making a board for it. Here's the issue: plati.ma/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Schematic_MIPI-CSI_2024-04-28.pdf Notice anything different about the 20p connectors they use compared to... Any others? 😐

I've tried/started on it, but 1) every time I go to, someone else brings one out - eg like a stamp-sized Milk-V Duo... then the LicheeRV Nano came out haha, and 2) It's BLOODY COMPLEX. Oh also 3) EXPENSIVE 🤣

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"What would I use the LuckFox for?"

@@PlatimaTinkers Of course ... I meant it rhetorically. I restated the question which you asked, and then answered it. As for the AI, I agree with you to a point. For consumers, I'm pretty sure it's nothing but hype. Uses include enhanced web searching, smart assistant devices etc., which we mostly already have. For big companies, governments, police and the military ... I'm much more concerned about the uses it will be put to. Big Brother types of things. The only consistent message is that it either 'will' or 'will not' cost a lot of people their jobs, depending on who is being asked. For me personally, not much of an up side, and potentially a huge down side. But I'm not making a big distinction between 'AI' and 'machine vision.' Both of these use essentially the same tools for pattern matching and prediction, just on different sets of data. Do a search on 'Lavender AI' to see how israel is using AI to create 'target lists' from the tens of thousands of people the system monitors. I won't get into my political views here. Suffice to say, this system definitely uses machine vision for facial recognition etc. If it's not the same thing, there is certainly a lot of overlap. So for me ... all of this is both fascinating and concerning at the same time.

@@KZfaqBorkedMyOldHandle_why Valid point :P Some interesting things to read there! You're not wrong on any account though, and very valid input! Cheers

Yeah that's why I built the image with those included :)

@@PlatimaTinkers also can you suggest a convertor for usb to 4g modem way to make remote compact camera box

@@mohanasundarampalanisamy8494 Alright so now that's getting more complicated! Hah. I use RUT241's these days, but the SIM7600 series for anything embedded, as you can also get it as a HAT. Check out: www.waveshare.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=sim7600. Else Huawei E8372's have always been my go-to USB stick for backup connections!

@@PlatimaTinkers have you tested fps with camera? I guess someone posted like above 5 fps is ok for cam

@@mohanasundarampalanisamy8494 Yes, I show the camera working in this video. Same as I talk about using ffmpeg and v4l. You should try watching the video instead of just asking questions. The camera can do 2592 x 1944 at 30fps.

Haha nice! I'd use Reolink for inspiration, but make it way more useable. Their tech is good, the limited functionality and UI is not!

Yeah I think the NPU is definitely handy, 0.5 TOPS is plenty for object/license plate/people/animal/face recognition in a soho setting, or small commercial. It could probably learn ~80 objects reliably. But yeah. POE. C'mon

The pico ultra has a Poe module, waiting for it to arrive

@@stereoactivo yeah mate got three here, two I'm giving away, and then there's more stock on the way for general public sale 😁

​@@PlatimaTinkers do you plan on doing a video on the Pico Ultra w/ PoE? I'm considering getting one for a DIY security camera project (mainly for the PoE and small form factor) and would love to hear your thoughts on it! I was hoping to use a Raspberry Pi Camera Module 3 with it due to size constraints (the camera shown in this video would be too big), but it sounds like the connector's way different, so not sure how well that would work out 🤔

@@soullesswaffle Yeah mate I've had three here for a few weeks as I got them early, but had a bit of a backlog. Aiming to do those next weekend! Note that nearly all Luckfox products use a custom MIPI CSI connector / pin order (ref github.com/platima/sbc-cameras/blob/main/readme.md) and the Ultra is no exception, so currently only the SC3336 you saw can be used, but I am working on an adapter board. Cheers

Zero. I swear. Zero. 0 🤣

Hahaha that is fucking excellent. I hope you win! Go get some mates to upvote this comment 😂

I mean really, you could have a network switch which is just all USB type-C ports?

@@PlatimaTinkers The size of the connector Sparkfun uses for their Qwiic hardware would be better since then it wouldn't confuse the heck out of people. We have that enough nowadays with the different USB style plugs. Would have to either make an adapter for it though or make a hub with this style of connectors like you said. This would reduce the height. These could point perpendicular or parallel to the board.

@@TheKuptis Unfortunately the Qwiic connector isn't electrically compatible with network data, you could probably get 10Mbps if you were lucky though, but you'd be more likely to damage the device on either end as the multiple uses of a JST connector could cause even more confusion. USB Type-C is actually compatible with network via the ThunderBolt protocol or DP Alt Mode - we use a lot of USB-C networking for high speed data storage access and similar 5-20Gbps short-distance network needs.

@@PlatimaTinkers Just using it as an example, but OK. DIdn't know that about USB-C.

@@PlatimaTinkers So to go back to your mention of ethernet to USB-C hub or to USB-C adapter, please get these companies to start doing this so the board isn't so big just because of the RJ45 jack.

Bloody good idea mate!

@@PlatimaTinkers Would also like to capture any wireless MAC addresses, either bluetooth or wifi as devices pass. Date/time stamps for all, of course

@@tomlynn1000 it doesn't have wifi though - you'd need to add on a module that supports 'promiscuous mode'. Might take some research, but could be doable!

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Well, not wrong I guess! Except I suspect the one being surveilled would notice the 300ft Cat5 cable running into the house 😂