"You be the judge." ~Paul Harrell

If only we could have someone "shoot groceries" for science!

You forgot the 4 layers of tshirt!

Bhahaha! 😂🤣😂

But would it be “enough difference to MAKE a difference?”

Ummm do you normally bring your guns when going to visit friends out of state or am I the only one who thinks that's odd. lol

​@@Blackmist213 For visiting a friend in Alaska, especially a guide, this would be completely normal. No different than bringing along some fishing gear and a jacket.

@@Blackmist213 You're the only one.

​​@@Blackmist213its fucking Alaska, if you go there you are about to get ambushed by 150 polar bears or some shit, better have a gun 😂

Sorry for your loss. Sounds like a great friend!

I love mine. It is very accurate

I have the 686 6 inch 7 shot. Love it.

Just got my own Henry in 357 a couple weeks ago, and it's awesome. Shoots dead on. After buying it I immediately felt an emptiness on my hip where a revolver would go ☹

.45-70 is way bigger than .44 and .357. I’d trust a .357 to take a deer though

Thanks man, Alton Brown has been an important influence.

@@LuckyGunner maybe more camera shots with you opening the cabinet or refrigerator (or maybe gun safe?).

Best way to describe it

The show actually did a comeback, though that may have been partially derailed by Covid. You can find the first of the new series on KZfaq.

Wow...yeah, I've never really noticed before but he does keep a similar cadence in the dialog..... Alton is one of the few TV personalities to really indulge in the science of cooking, whereas it's fairly common in the firearms world. Bonus facts..... Alton is a gun guy.... there are photos of him shooting a SCAR floating around the web, not sure if he owns it or not....

You be the judge?

I came here looking for Paul Harrell comments. He'd be proud

Chris is what you'd call a "professional"...

@@24roughing76 I was looking for this haha

Now is that enough difference to make a difference?

Your videos aren't so bad either!

@Korbyn Raiden tf is wrong with you

@@ChrisB-zz8dh Agreed!

Show off

No he is showing off his ability to niggle.

He got a lot of mileage out of that ammo.

😂😂

@Aniwayas Song KZfaq search "chris rock bullet control"

Excellent choice. Best of both worlds. Outstanding mussle velocity.

I bought a Henry in 357MAG to pair up with my 357 revolvers. Sweet shooter.

@@Robnord1 Henry's package insert recommends 38 SPCL of minimal 158gr bullet. I haven't tried 38 in my Henry yet.

Been wanting to get one too.

I cant recommend .357 enough. The ability to switch between .38sp and .357 at any time based on ammo availability is a huge selling point for me. I picked up a .357 all-weather and took a few rabbits at ranges I wouldn't trust a .22 to be reliable at (SOLID, NOT HOLLOW POINT). It is also the gun I taught a boy from California to shoot with, low recoil, fairly accurate. I also lent it to a friend to hunt with in Iowa and with a hollow point he did a clean heart shot at 120 yards. I love my henry, and it takes the number one spot on my list of preparedness guns for the likely future where "assault weapons" are banned again.

If you haven't watched already, check out Paul Harrell's channel.

How's the availability and price of .41 compared to the other two? (I understand this is a year later)

@@rodglen7071 oh that is a very good question!!!

So what's .454 Casull gonna be?

@@Joshua_N-A Whatever it is, it's probably going to be a Mandingo quote.

I have a Marlin 1895 .38/.357 Magnum. Same difference

@@dirtfarmer7472 You likely have a smoother action. Nice rifle.

@@ElainesDomain I’ve had a little bit of work done to it & it works nicely.

@@dirtfarmer7472better rifle

The main reason I am buying a .357 over a .44 or .45 lever action is because I EDC a .357 and I would like to have the ability to share ammo. Mostly for fantasy prepped kinds of reasons, it probably will never matter but it’s cool to think.

You could see that gel block jumping with the .44

​@Seth Mullins That's exactly why I'm going with the 44mag. My dad left me his colt 44mag with thousands of rounds of reloads and I want to share ammo and not run that much throb the handgun. I also have a .357 but not that much ammo. Just goes to show both rounds are great rounds. If given the choice to be shot by either, I'm pretty sure both you and I wouldn't have a preference. Lol

As is his beard

@@Ace-dn3id It is impressive.

@@Ace-dn3id that was the first thing i noticed. Damn thick beard he got there 😂😂

*MOM SHOOTING 357 MAGNUM* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNCcnal-ta2mmas.html

Definitely! Outstanding video.

Well actually... Which can we find a matching revolver and bulk ammo/ reloading components quantity for.

A. No, pretty sure that doesn’t apply to everybody B. That question is also answered in the video

If you reload, or cast bullets, the 357/38 will be cheapest and get the most out of your lead.

Actually I kinda want to get 2 more 357 lever guns--one for each of my kids. Just...money....because I have kids....

Also 45 long colt/454 Casull/460 S&W (Don't think that one exists yet).

Tangero, I believe your right. Ammo is expensive but .357 is readily available. If I can't feed my family with .357 when I have to then any heavier loads are out of the question.

@@otdj3794 Thanks, it's really about her mind set. She used to put all 5 into an orange at 20 feet with that 2 1/4" barrel, now she puts them in a cantaloupe. . . . still better then I ever was, but she has lost confidence. Her Rifle shooting is still spot on, pulling back on the foregrip seems to negate the shake. She has an AR but it's not her thing. I'm also building a .300 Blackout AR pistol to see if that might work for her.

@Random Pickle Dude, like my wife would spend her own money on a gun 🙄 You're not married are you (Rhetorical) I hike 10 x as much as my wife, yet she owns like 20 pairs of boots and I own 3. Get married you'll understand. . . Lastly she is a better pistol shot, a natural, just a joy to watch her shoot. . . . doesn't mean she knows a 300 BLK from a 300 Weatherby Mag. or cares it just means she shoots well. Really my dude. . . . derrrrr

Saoirse So true.....smh

Good choice. You'll never regret getting a .357 lever gun. Aside from being a good home defense tool, they're just a blast to shoot and it sounds like your wife would be a surgeon with it.

@@saoirse5308 dude you’re awesome 😎

my experience in general (non panic) is that .357 is only a few cents more than .38 ...not enough to worry about as the difference between retailers or shipping charges is more than the CPR difference. .44 special, you are correct, though. both calibers really shine if you reload or handload. In "common market" times, you are better off with a 9mm revolver than a .38 special revolver! (I'm going to miss the days of 9mm at 13 cents each) But I can (noting that I stocked up on primers) relaod .32 magnum for less than the cost of CCI .22LR, and can usually reload .38 special for about the cost of CCI .22LR, but .44 is pushing that "9mm ammo" cost.

And .38 Special is no joke, especially out these rifle-length barrels. Not like .357, but not weak sauce, either.

The .44 is definitely a reloader's game. It's not versatile at all if you rely on the factory because most factory magnum is balls-to-the-wall, and most factory special is underpowered trash for the same price or more than the magnums. I've bought 4 boxes of ammo just to get a feel for it based on factory loads. Everything else has been handloaded with the cheapest being about 24¢/round and the most expensive being about 54¢/round. And that's for full-on magnum loads. If I loaded light .44 special loads, I could get it down to about 20¢. People who cast their own bullets can do even better than that.

Yes, .44 special is so rare that I have to load my own. Starline sells the brass and I load with Berry's 220gr bullets. As far as as factory loads most .357 and .44 magnum factory loads I've tried are equivalent to my lighter hand loads that I'll happily shoot through my revolvers but when I assemble some full power loads I only put them in a rifle as the recoil in a pistol goes quite a bit past feeling "fun" and into "my wrist!"

Every time I click on LGs website and select 38 Spl. it says "nope".

I'm sure he's got all the 9mm he wants to shoot, they seem to always have something in stock. But some ammo just doesn't exist right now for anyone.

Production is the problem right now so as an ammo reseller, they have to resell all they get in or there is no profits.

Do you reckon that corona played any part in this recent ammo issue?

@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg it caused the issue

@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg try riots and folk scared the crap out of them.💩

You just made me understand what my physics teacher couldn’t

@@craigfisher2367, LOL! I suffer from what I call, "Math-O-Phobia" which I define as "The fear of all sums".

this is not actually true with ballistics. Bullet drop is directly related to speed, BUT speed is related to drag, which is related to the BC, and its inertia. A heavier bullet with a smaller ballistic coefficient will drop less than a light bullet with poor aerodymanics.

When you start getting into this there are a lot of things to consider. You are correct in what you say but physics also points out that the faster a projectile leaves the muzzle the faster it slows down. The mass of the bullet must be considered because it retains energy retaining velocity longer. Cross section of the bullet is a factor because the air exerts 80 times more force on the bullet than gravity does. This is why magnum rifles are so good for long range. A high velocity, heavy mass, means lots of energy at a long range.

@@craigfisher2367 He is completely wrong though.

Love the 41 mag, but $$$!

Same here. Great round. Highly effective 👍

My first deer harvest was with a scoped 6" revolver at 49 yards (laser range finder confirmed distance), and this last winter my R92 lever action in 357 mag took my second deer. This year I will hunt with my 44mag Virginian Dragoon and hope to fill the freezer again! (Ohio)

Any auto calibers? There's no substitute for instant follow ups?

@@GunFunZS Yes, I have 9mm. I was commenting on the two magnum rounds.

@@Michael.R.Harding.Realtor just curious. If it's for fun rather than practical, which is your situation, there's no downside to getting what ever makes you smile. Casting and reloading really make auto pistol and revolver calibers fun too! You get to shoot so much more, and exactly what you like.

I plan to do a lot of extended camping in bear country. I have a 357 handgun for the backpack when I'm hiking from my base camp but I want to get a self defense gun for in camp. I'm thinking of the Henry 357 X so I only need to get one kind of ammo, but I'm also leaning towards a shotgun. What hits with more energy, a shotgun with 00 buck or slugs, or a 357 out of the Henry? Which is a better bear defense tool? I'm not a hunter, I'm just worried about bears!

@@David-rx2to I absolutely LOVE my Marlin 1894c .357 mag. and wouldn't hesitate to use it for defense against black bears. That being said, from a practical standpoint, I'm sure that a properly loaded 12 gauge is more likely to stop the threat more efficiently.

I friend of mine has several 41 Mags, and he also just got the Henry Big Boy in 41. We shot it yesterday with some home loads he made, a beautiful and slick operating rifle! I know in pistols, I prefer a 41 over a 44 any day, much more manageable.

"A crummy commercial?!" LOL

I never liked .44 actually .43 magnums either. Love my .41 mags

@@alphagt62 i hand load .41 and make a .41 special load for my wife and kids, i use 44 special data

Mark Holloway that’s good to know, there’s not much data for 41. My buddy likes to load them mild, we like hitting the gongs, and not stinging our hands.

*group of informed citizens riot at a guys house* *guy pulls out his ol 1873 in .38-40* "Alright, good news people I only have three rounds for this thing. Bad news for three of you though"

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz "1892 with 2 rounds... for now"

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Get the bad guys to line up, bad news for maybe nine of them.

@@keithgraham9547 Yeah the factory ammo doesn't wanna expand sometimes.

or more to the point- 32 savage, 35 savage, and other "30-30" type calibers.

.357 mag would be perfect for deer at short to short/mid range, at or below 150 yards. Great brush carbine

...my best answer is 45 Colt.....

With headshots, a 38 special lever gun can take the place of a 22lr in most circumstances and even more so suppressed.

44 spl lrn bullets or rnfmj

He didn't go 20

@john pravato. Lmao!! #didntgo20

I love my .45 Colt lever and SA revolver. All though, I love all my things that go bang. But I do need a .357 to go with my GP100.

I dunno, a lead casted 240gr .45 LC can be hopped-up enough to kill a T-Rex on PCP. ✌️

Americans working temporarily with the French Intelligence Service (DGSE, the Directorate-General for External Security - Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure) on several cases linked to US interests, it was noted that the 9mm HPs used by the French took between 9 and 14 hits to bring down armed combatants with no body armor and 72% of the time, the combatants who were shot multiple times with 9mm didn't perish. When US personnel fired their sidearms (restricted by the French to revolvers), in this case, the .357 Magnum S&W Revolver with 125 gn. JHP or 158 gn. Hardcast, only one to (rarely) three rounds per enemy combatant was sufficient with a 69% fatality rate. For a comparison, look at the US-based police shootings available for public review to see a direct correlation of this data and comments like the one from Name, below. 9mm, for all its ratings and hype (a great deal of which is financially motivated), is not at all as reliable at stopping combatants as the .357 Magnum. Anyone with more experience than just a few gunfights knows two things: Revolvers are far more reliable than even the very best semi-auto, and that 9mm is not as effective as .357 Magnum. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/27/upshot/deadly-bullets-guns.html Based on the stats 45 is overrated

Many folks don't appreciate 45 Colt because they don't own one. Once you do, you'll get it.

JMB... Gotta have a .4+ or it ain't worth a damn

Depends on the situation honestly

Also, 38 is actually cheaper. 44 Special is sometimes more expensive than 44 Mag.

@@Bob5mith how does that work? Not being sarcastic, I'm actually asking how .44 Special can be more expensive than its more powerful counterpart.

@@aggrodkreg4321 mostly because companies dont manufacture it year round like 9mm or 38. They do a short run on it and thats it Although 44 special is great for reloading cause it is cost effective.

@@aggrodkreg4321 Just supply and demand. 44 Special isn't nearly as popular as 38 Special. People buy and shoot boatloads of 38, probably more than 357, but 44 special not so much.

Makes sense. Thanks to both of you. I'm not much of a wheel gun guy, so I'm not aware of the availability of .44 Special.

YUP! I've got the 686-6+ and the Henrey Carbine. Bought my wife a S&W 637, she's deadly accurate with it.

686 or 686+?

158 is my rifle's favorite too

@Bo Zo I found that (most) 357 hollow points expanded too fast out of a carbine. They're more suited (designed) as anti-personnel pistol rounds.

@@chrisbonnett6783 what 158 gr soft points do you like for deer?

Ya, but you can't shoot 30-30 out of your matching revolver

@@Cambone13 True enough, but if I have a lever gun I haven't much need for the revolver do I?

This made me laugh so hard! Thanks man

@@Cambone13 Magnum Research actually makes a “handgun”, it’s massive, chambered in 30-30, as well as an abundance of atypical rifle cartridges and cowboy loads, called the BFR

Well if that's the case I'm just going to say "screw it" and go with an ar15 with multiple uppers.

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@@matthewfox3760 gone from us too soon 😥 Miss this guy...

@@davis3138 has he died since the video was posted?

@@steakwilliams4448 No 🤣

same actually. lol guess what sits hanging right above it? a marlin 357, and above that, a winchester 32-20.... below the henry 44mag is a savage99 in 308.....and a couple 30-30's at the tippy top above the 32-20 is a ruger model "96" in 22 magnum..... i expect to put a 5.7x28 there next year if all goes well with ruger.

He explained it very well in the video - handgun cartridges simply do not achieve sufficient velocity to reliably achieve a wounding effect from temporary cavitation. If this is your goal, then you are barking up the wrong tree and should be looking at rifles that fire true rifle cartridges.

I concur. 327 versus 357 would be really cool also.

@@Amiga3000D Pretty sure Henry makes one.

@@escabrosa1 Yes they do. But seeing Chris do the same type of test as this only making it 327 vs 357 would be very interesting to me at least. It might open a few eyes about the utility of the 327 as well.

@@Amiga3000D The only issue he'd encounter is the same one I'm encountering now. As a .327 owner and Federal issuing statements dedicating production to certain calibers, .327 not being one of them... ammo is scarce for the caliber. I bought up a lot when it was available myself but if you try and look now it's gone everywhere. So may be an issue for testing sake.

@@Predalien195 I also purchased what I could and I am surprised by the total scarcity at the moment. I understand your position and I can only hope that changes soon.

Without the meat target and for those of you that don't know......

I'm in the same boat, have a GP100, SP101 and S&W Bodyguard .38 so I have tons of .38/.357 ammo around. Will make sense to a .357 lever action gun even though I "want" the .44.