Ludwig van Beethoven - Grosse Fuge, Op. 133

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8 жыл бұрын

- Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven (17 December 1770 -- 26 March 1827)
- Performers: Talich Quartet
- Year of recording: 1977
Fugue for string quartet in B flat major ("Grosse Fuge"), Op. 133, written in 1825.
Beethoven's Grosse Fuge {Great Fugue} was originally to have served as the finale to the String Quartet No. 13 in B flat major, Op. 130 [uploaded on this channel]; in fact, that work was first performed with this monumental creation as its sixth and concluding movement. However, the Grosse Fuge, a complete entity in its own right, proved too difficult for the performers and for some members of the audience. Moreover, it seemed an outsized finale for the relatively modest quartet. Beethoven subsequently produced a new final movement for the quartet, an attractive Rondo more in keeping with the spirit of the entire work.
The Grosse Fuge, eventually published as an independent work, is one of Beethoven's crowning achievements in the medium of chamber music. The work opens with an introduction, or "overtura." Here the mood is dramatic, effectively setting the stage for the whole work. The main theme -- heroic and defiant, powerful and self-confident -- is presented in four different versions. First, it is played fortissimo, in an emphatic, assertive manner, which will reemerge as its definitive guise in the coda. The subsequent accounts of the theme gradually become calmer and quieter.
The first fugal section is a double fugue marked Allegro. Here the main theme competes against another subject, which is also fiery and assertive. Their struggle, which includes substantial development, continues fortissimo. The second section, marked Meno mosso e moderato, is also a double fugue, its lyricism providing effective contrast to its predecessor. Here a new theme emerges from the counterpoint of the main melody. The third section, marked Allegro molto e con brio, features further struggle in which the theme eventually falters and seems to disintegrate. The second subject from the first fugal section emerges and appears to take control. Eventually, the main theme is rejuvenated in a passage marked Meno mosso moderato, and the signs of struggle fade in the two Allegro subsections that follow. The coda features the main theme in its original version, but now expanded and clearly triumphant. The mood turns reflective and mysterious, and suddenly the second subject appears, supported by the main theme. The work ends powerfully and magnificently.
The Grosse Fuge is dedicated: "Dem Cardinal Erzherzog Rudolph gewidmet".

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@souio
@souio 4 жыл бұрын
*me wearing headphones* "What are you listening to?" "Beethoven" "Nice. Could you send it to me? I need some new classical music to help me sleep" "Uh, sure. Sweet dreams.."
@thijmenkrijgsman2417
@thijmenkrijgsman2417 4 жыл бұрын
Level 1-3 hahahahahaha nice!🤣🤣🤣
@Ludwig1625
@Ludwig1625 4 жыл бұрын
god this is so unique, you're top comment but deserve more likes lmao
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 4 жыл бұрын
"And while I'm at it, I'll send you 'The Rite of Spring . . . .' " TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fun-ny!
@jaymian2257
@jaymian2257 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardcleveland8549 And the Poem of Ecstasy
@fiandrhi
@fiandrhi 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people tell me they use classical music to sleep.
@mduftube
@mduftube 9 ай бұрын
After Bach’s Art of Fugue you’d think that no one could ever add anything new and meaningful to fugue literature, and then along comes Beethoven and absolutely knocks it out of the park with the Missa Solemnis and the late piano sonatas and string quartets. But this goes beyond all of that. It is titanic, weird, determinedly ahead of its time, and utterly fascinating. Bach was cataloguing his art with the utmost competence and completeness of form; Beethoven is like a bull in a china shop with his radical innovations and unbridled imagination.
@jocelynreinhardt4093
@jocelynreinhardt4093 12 күн бұрын
You are wrong, Anton Reicha did it, Reicha created "symmetrical" fugues; one of the subjects of fugue no. 18 consists of a single repeated note. The maximum interval exceeds the ninth: fugue no. 7 extends over more than two octaves, there is polyrhythm... : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8CbabSCxtmloWw.html
@late8641
@late8641 2 жыл бұрын
_"Große fuge is an absolutely contemporary piece of music that will be contemporary forever"_ ~ Igor Stravinsky
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson Жыл бұрын
Yet the seemingly enigmatic opening is a bog-standard I-N6-IV-V-I progression, identical to a passage near the opening of the 1st symphony, which I'm sure was a deliberate allusion (or Easter egg, if you like).
@dzinypinydoroviny
@dzinypinydoroviny Жыл бұрын
@@gspaulsson Context is the key I'd say.
@erika6651
@erika6651 Жыл бұрын
@@gspaulsson It certainly doesn't sound bog standard however. That and the various other shrieks and howls and dissonances found throughout the faster sections give it a contemporary feel, even with a terribly dull performance as presented here.
@Nilmand
@Nilmand Жыл бұрын
"Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa Lobos?" ~Igor Stravinsky
@francesthemute4310
@francesthemute4310 Жыл бұрын
Cardi B be like:
@bluegender2005
@bluegender2005 7 жыл бұрын
I find it amazing because this type of broken harmony and dissonant notes bloomed in the early 1900 with the musical expressionism with Schönberg and Weber. This piece by Beethoven is way ahead of its time.
@ventolina8350
@ventolina8350 7 жыл бұрын
prazak quartet
@gregperez-greene7408
@gregperez-greene7408 6 жыл бұрын
webern
@davidbrant390
@davidbrant390 6 жыл бұрын
Mozart and Weber, lol. It's Schoenberg and Webern (which are better btw)
@malcolmabram2957
@malcolmabram2957 5 жыл бұрын
Late Beethoven is the epitomy of musical composition, but he is so hard to appreciate.
@gouldhatedbachschromaticfa7494
@gouldhatedbachschromaticfa7494 5 жыл бұрын
​@@davidbrant390 but schoenberg and webern sound like shit. i know the academic elements of their works, but i still think they sound shitty. every now and then people point out how mozart's string quartet in c 'dissonance' and beethoven late quartets foreshadowed serialism, destruction of tonal hierarchy. further into the romantic line, we have wagner's tristan und isolde, but are these really 'advancement' or 'innovation' in music? i think music got progressively got worse because contemporary composers wrote noise instead of music. is music really going in the right direction? i doubt it
@roycezaro1998
@roycezaro1998 6 жыл бұрын
I learned how to write fugues in high school, eventually writing a (mediocre) double fugue, after putting like 5 years of study into it. I'm by no means an "expert" at ALL, but I can follow and understand Bach's fugues pretty well. I got lost in the 14th measure.
@colorsofsound4782
@colorsofsound4782 5 жыл бұрын
That is funny because it is true.
@mannytheconfusedturtle7092
@mannytheconfusedturtle7092 5 жыл бұрын
The fugue is pretty much the most difficult music you can compose. Don't feel bummed out. Making It to the 14th measure is a victory in itself.
@longmikey4990
@longmikey4990 5 жыл бұрын
don't worry, even Chopin wasn't able to write any decent fugue
@1333x_x
@1333x_x 5 жыл бұрын
The fugue doesn't start until the 25th, the first 24 measures are the overture.
@Eorzat
@Eorzat 5 жыл бұрын
@@1333x_x It's almost like Beethoven even notated where the fugue starts lol
@svenmansfeld
@svenmansfeld 4 жыл бұрын
I call it "Anger over a lost millions of dollars"
@79Tomasso
@79Tomasso 4 жыл бұрын
SVEN`S WORLD 😆😆😆
@authenticmusic4815
@authenticmusic4815 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@notrowleyjefferson1951
@notrowleyjefferson1951 4 жыл бұрын
Rage over a lost penny: the sequel
@Sulsfort
@Sulsfort 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it's even more than money could pay.
@saifnakhleh3351
@saifnakhleh3351 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@dububro
@dububro 5 жыл бұрын
So I told Beethoven to ignore the musical norms of his day.. he actually did it the absolute madman
@tylerhaddock9583
@tylerhaddock9583 3 жыл бұрын
Not a phony?
@animasonscience9132
@animasonscience9132 3 жыл бұрын
He simply didn’t listen
@amerrylittlemonarch
@amerrylittlemonarch 3 жыл бұрын
Who are you again? Oh, right, that Caulfield guy that knocked on my apartment door who I couldn’t hear very well. Could you speak a bit louder, please?
@pascalscherr5206
@pascalscherr5206 3 жыл бұрын
That kills me. It really does
@bruhmomenthdr7575
@bruhmomenthdr7575 2 жыл бұрын
@@animasonscience9132 He simply couldn't listen
@lolllololllo
@lolllololllo 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe this is Beethoven. It seems like it was composed in the early XX century. Genius
@machida5114
@machida5114 3 жыл бұрын
I also think so.
@hjo4104
@hjo4104 7 ай бұрын
4:39 but that part reveals the era
@ernestovilchis2969
@ernestovilchis2969 7 ай бұрын
Yo si
@radimtauber3358
@radimtauber3358 8 жыл бұрын
giga-mega-super-fuge
@jackjack3320
@jackjack3320 5 жыл бұрын
.. that's not even a proper fugue. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hduJjJSYu57OmIk.html
@walterbushell7029
@walterbushell7029 4 жыл бұрын
That's about the size of it.
@doktorhulk
@doktorhulk 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@EthanPearson
@EthanPearson 3 жыл бұрын
super-ultra-hyper-mega-meta fugue
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 2 жыл бұрын
@@EthanPearson If Jacob writes a (decent) fugue I would blow my mind!
@arnekorpen3143
@arnekorpen3143 3 жыл бұрын
0:10 I'm a simple man: I hear DSCH, i press like instantly.
@WrulfWroar
@WrulfWroar 6 жыл бұрын
fugasm
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 5 жыл бұрын
Wroar lol
@akito7025
@akito7025 4 жыл бұрын
My god😂😂
@unoriginal422
@unoriginal422 3 жыл бұрын
0:00 1. Introduction (Overtura) 0:56 2. First Fugue 4:38 3. Slow section 7:25 4. Scherzo and Fugue 11:57 5. Coda
@karinanunez5458
@karinanunez5458 2 жыл бұрын
The only trascendental commentary
@OuaghlaniAlaa
@OuaghlaniAlaa 2 жыл бұрын
Up
@OuaghlaniAlaa
@OuaghlaniAlaa 2 жыл бұрын
Up
@OuaghlaniAlaa
@OuaghlaniAlaa 2 жыл бұрын
Up
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 2 жыл бұрын
@@OuaghlaniAlaa Up
@bouuigigw
@bouuigigw 3 жыл бұрын
1825.... My God... this was literally a century ahead of its time. I still can not get over the fact this was written in the 1820's....
@nickn2794
@nickn2794 3 жыл бұрын
try this too kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocmWd9uYy67XZmg.html
@salvatoreee14531
@salvatoreee14531 2 жыл бұрын
Much like the part of his Sonata 32, 2nd movement, when he suddenly begins jazzing
@Whatismusic123
@Whatismusic123 2 жыл бұрын
you can find alot of shitty composition from that time which sound "a century ahead of it's time" and this is one of them
@GUILLOM
@GUILLOM 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatismusic123 To everyone reading this, the person I'm replying to is just a troll who replies to all the comments they see with the first negative thing they come up with. Ignore them.
@Whatismusic123
@Whatismusic123 2 жыл бұрын
@@GUILLOM grow up
@user-fm8pm5is8n
@user-fm8pm5is8n 2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven, as all great masters, dared to ignore the audience's expectations. It is us who have to rise to the difficulties of the work and not the artist who has to bend over to our sense of beauty.
@andrewmargrave7518
@andrewmargrave7518 5 жыл бұрын
This piece is difficult to the verge of unplayability. But this quartet plays it very well.
@zenner41
@zenner41 3 жыл бұрын
Not hard for pros, which these folks obviously are. Perhaps it was hard in Beethoven's day, but today any reasonably professional quartet won't have any problem with it.
@johnbowman3630
@johnbowman3630 2 жыл бұрын
@@zenner41 No the OP is right, they are obvious pros but still struggled to keep time quite a bit, at times it is on the verge on collapse.
@TurquoiseStar17
@TurquoiseStar17 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's why his publisher told him to write another, and tone it down. Sadly this would be his final finished work.
@aerohydra3849
@aerohydra3849 Жыл бұрын
@@zenner41 It's still a very difficult piece, particularly the polyrhythms that can easily throw players off (those offbeat tied eighth notes against the triplets are an absolute beast to play correctly).
@rsr789
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
@@TurquoiseStar17 Incorrect. Beethoven's final major finished work was String Quartet No. 16 in F major, Op. 135, completed in Oct 1826, Beethoven died in March 1827, after months bedridden with illness.
@nonchalantree6604
@nonchalantree6604 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Ahhhh, I just love classical music. It's so calming and peaceful. Us, being intellectuals:
@LachlanTyrrell2003
@LachlanTyrrell2003 4 жыл бұрын
the "classical music is sleeping music" cliche is so inaccurate.
@authenticmusic4815
@authenticmusic4815 3 жыл бұрын
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 Ikr
@machida5114
@machida5114 3 жыл бұрын
@@LachlanTyrrell2003"classical music is stilling music"
@unnamed_boi
@unnamed_boi 3 жыл бұрын
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 everytime i hear that i just wanna blast shostakovich symphony 11 in their ears
@ludwigvonzork7494
@ludwigvonzork7494 3 жыл бұрын
@@unnamed_boi xD
@joshisdriven
@joshisdriven 6 жыл бұрын
You can almost hear the frustration in the composition. The feeling of isolation he must have been dealing with slowly losing the ability to not only hear his own work but the audible connection to life itself. Eerie. Great interpretation by the musicians IMO
@Torebordalpiano
@Torebordalpiano 5 жыл бұрын
He had been completely deaf for more than 10 years when writing this piece. Just saying
@afriendlymusician3829
@afriendlymusician3829 4 жыл бұрын
This was after Beethoven came to terms with life and his deafness(Piano Sonata 31)
@user-jl2bh1lw6r
@user-jl2bh1lw6r 2 жыл бұрын
2021 쇼팽콩쿨 망함
@renascitur7051
@renascitur7051 2 жыл бұрын
@@Torebordalpiano He didn't go completely deaf at all, though. Just saying
@vijinanadu1962
@vijinanadu1962 2 жыл бұрын
It's Prinzip Hoffnung: Hope for the Blissful State of Affairs of Everyone by way of Revolution
@telephilia
@telephilia 7 жыл бұрын
This and the fugal finale of his Hammerklavier sonata are probably the most difficult pieces of his to appreciate on first hearing. But repeated hearings for many will reap great rewards.
@SSNewberry
@SSNewberry 6 жыл бұрын
My daughter likes it. She is 6. Months.
@Vextrove
@Vextrove 6 жыл бұрын
Stirling Newberry keep letting your daughter hear it so she will learn at a young age
@javiermedina5313
@javiermedina5313 4 жыл бұрын
yes the first time I heard it it was "too heavy" for me, but now I understand it so well that became one of my favorite pieces of all times, one of the highest quality compositions ever
@javiermedina5313
@javiermedina5313 4 жыл бұрын
@@SSNewberry she will be a genius
@SSNewberry
@SSNewberry 4 жыл бұрын
@@javiermedina5313 Mais oui ou mais non.
@ketanfernandes4094
@ketanfernandes4094 5 жыл бұрын
This is literally my favourite Beethoven composition of all time. I’ve heard it since age 14 and I think I can say I’ve heard it hundreds of times.
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, I'm 14. It's a pleasure to see you and listening to thing masterpiece!
@ChucksExotics
@ChucksExotics 10 ай бұрын
It's so bad. How could anyone prefer this to beautiful music, it's just dissonant and weird. Beethoven in general was inferior to his predecessors.
@ketanfernandes4094
@ketanfernandes4094 10 ай бұрын
@@ChucksExotics 😮😂
@ernestovilchis2969
@ernestovilchis2969 7 ай бұрын
A ok
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj 5 ай бұрын
you should remove the h from your user name and that would represent your opinion very well.
@johnappleseed8369
@johnappleseed8369 7 жыл бұрын
Beethoven's True masterpiece
@elie2133
@elie2133 5 жыл бұрын
hum, that insinuates beethoven only wrote one masterpiece.
@elie2133
@elie2133 5 жыл бұрын
@Quinn Gray ho well. but it isn't only used as such.
@theyeking7023
@theyeking7023 5 жыл бұрын
@Quinn Gray There can be many masterpieces but only one Magnum Opus, and that is this godly piece.
@javiermedina5313
@javiermedina5313 4 жыл бұрын
with Beethoven it's always a problem to chose the best composition because they are all masterpieces, almost all of them, I think 9ths is the greatest masterpiece from Beethoven.
@timothythorne9464
@timothythorne9464 4 жыл бұрын
Amadeus Beethoven said his 8th Symphony was his best work. That's curious considering it's an untroubled, classical piece that's worlds away from this, or any of the late quartets, or the 9th symphony.
@OneTrueDone
@OneTrueDone 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I return to listen to this piece the world seemingly stands still…. Thank you to the worlds most tortured genius. Long may he live in our ears and our hearts.
@hanniballecter2322
@hanniballecter2322 7 жыл бұрын
"My God you are more deaf than I thought."
@DrStabkill
@DrStabkill 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@burakguner8110
@burakguner8110 7 жыл бұрын
2x lol
@DrStabkill
@DrStabkill 7 жыл бұрын
although, i do love this piece. But there are some really strange parts, and I think its more in the transitions and rests. The harmony is spot on and the theme is great however.
@bmo4411
@bmo4411 7 жыл бұрын
Was that from Copying Beethoven, or Immortal Beloved? Both are excellent movies, but Immortal Believed is incredible. A masterpiece IMO. One of the most underappreciated & underrated movies of all time. In it's own way, every bit as good as the highly acclaimed, Amadeus.
@neilwalsh3977
@neilwalsh3977 7 жыл бұрын
Amen
@soysantiagoraul
@soysantiagoraul 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest music ever. In the peack of his deaf, he evolved into a super-man. Love you Ludwig, with all my heart.
@Cosimo-composer
@Cosimo-composer 4 жыл бұрын
beethoven's late music as crazy as scriabin' late music,and they are greatest
@aarondrayer548
@aarondrayer548 5 жыл бұрын
i don’t care but this is one of the best fugues since bach, this fugue is so well structured and overall the emotion of this fugue is so amazing that lets you the melody be stuck in your head for the rest of the day. beethoven you’re a genius among genius.
@NarutoSSj6
@NarutoSSj6 4 жыл бұрын
Mehhh wasnt that great
@dengnhial3410
@dengnhial3410 3 жыл бұрын
@@NarutoSSj6 mind you Beethoven was completely deaf when he composed this
@amerrylittlemonarch
@amerrylittlemonarch 3 жыл бұрын
@@NarutoSSj6 Listen again and pay attention, normie.
@ProdigyImprovisation
@ProdigyImprovisation 2 жыл бұрын
@@amerrylittlemonarch Hi Bud, I think one day I did something that sounds familiar by it’s character to the Grosse Fugue. Although it’s not a fugue, but similar in style of musical character for notes overriding on top of eachother violently in nature. Just so that we’re friends and you probably do find the Grosse Fugue to be one of the single best music ever written. I’d actually do want to hear your response on one of my videos, maybe you watched it before. But it’s the one I named Beethoven’s Berserker Rage. It’s always amazing to realize people’s thoughts about it whether or not they hear a similarity in character between that & the Grosse Fugue. I’ll really appreciate this so much!! Thanks..
@louiscorbett3278
@louiscorbett3278 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, pretend to enjoy it all you want - it's crap and everyone knows it.
@user-hc9iw6yh7e
@user-hc9iw6yh7e Жыл бұрын
marvellous~ ahead of time by 100 years
@juv7026
@juv7026 4 ай бұрын
7:26 - 15:39 has become my favorite few minutes of music so far
@alepiano8685
@alepiano8685 Жыл бұрын
Grosse fugue is the perfect example of the importance of many listens in any music with complex structure. I can feel goosebumps
@santuge1984
@santuge1984 3 жыл бұрын
Audience: I am here to listen to enjoy nice music. Composer: too bad. you are seated already. This piece is not for you to enjoy. It is here to shake your soul, to make you uncomfortable. I write it to educate you. I know few people like to be lectured, nor like their view of the world challenged. But too late, you have nowhere to escape.
@weewee2169
@weewee2169 3 жыл бұрын
this music is ugly i shall listen to the 6th symphony instead
@amerrylittlemonarch
@amerrylittlemonarch 3 жыл бұрын
@@weewee2169 Shut up!
@amerrylittlemonarch
@amerrylittlemonarch 3 жыл бұрын
@@weewee2169 Did you even listen to the point?!?
@weewee2169
@weewee2169 3 жыл бұрын
@@amerrylittlemonarch nah you didnt say that ahahaha
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 2 жыл бұрын
@@amerrylittlemonarch Don't mind that cattle.
@BombardierJake
@BombardierJake 6 ай бұрын
So many comments on here regard this piece as being filled with rage and anger, but I don’t feel this at all. It reminds me of silly playfulness the mind initiates when greatly stressed. An outpouring stream of mixed emotion, once trapped within. String Quarter No.14, VII. Mvt, however, is anger and rage from the same time period, but not the Große Fuge.
@samrecalgna
@samrecalgna 6 ай бұрын
Genius. Thank you for this.
@johnsonhill3749
@johnsonhill3749 3 жыл бұрын
it's a weird feeling to know that Beethoven never heard this song, and people a few hundred years in the future heard it before he ever would
@PEDRO_boaro
@PEDRO_boaro 2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven heard this... On his own head, that's was enough to him
@PEDRO_boaro
@PEDRO_boaro 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven completely lost his hearing while composing the Hammerklavier sonata (1817-1818), no longer being able to hear anything else, he installed a metallic horn on his piano that when he was going to compose it bit the horn so that he could feel the vibrations in his skull
@PEDRO_boaro
@PEDRO_boaro 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven's friends and editors, because they thought Beethoven was completely deaf he was no longer understanding music or composition, but Beethoven was composing songs 100 years ahead of his time (this fugue is one of them in his late period)
@Trooman20
@Trooman20 Жыл бұрын
@@lisztomaniac2718 he did have perfect pitch and there is no doubt that he could hear all the music he wrote in his head probably better than we can
@bullshitman155
@bullshitman155 Жыл бұрын
*piece
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd Жыл бұрын
The pain, anguish and passion…wow
@MrMrremmington
@MrMrremmington 3 жыл бұрын
Well such a group of comments from despair to love. The work was beautiful. Intellectually deep. Consistent and vibrant. I heard conversations and the complex expressions between duelling Entities. It’s like a struggles which occupies your mind. One trying to resolve conflict and maintain some harmony however, your vexed and sometimes overtaken by anger and retaliatory thoughts. When in the deep, your anchor is sanity and you sift through the turmoil to untangle and resolve towards Harmony if possible. In this work the harmony is an intense discourse which is balanced and beautiful. The fugue is an intellectual dance. I can just imagine some masterful dancers expressing themselves through this music, a story to be told. I remember the fantastical tango dancing I had seen in Argentina. Performed by strong athletic and graceful masters of the tango.Such a boundless Work Beethoven created, transtemporal.
@stefanpredoi4564
@stefanpredoi4564 Жыл бұрын
Even if he had only ever composed this, he would still be among the greatest composers of all time, if not still the greatest.
@julianmanjarres1998
@julianmanjarres1998 Жыл бұрын
Sike
@Whatismusic123
@Whatismusic123 Жыл бұрын
lmaooo no.
@martinsaroch3512
@martinsaroch3512 Жыл бұрын
Noble words, but is this piece even top listened in your own playlist?
@stefanpredoi4564
@stefanpredoi4564 Жыл бұрын
@@martinsaroch3512 Yes, actually! It's in my regular rotation, up there with Schoenberg's Verklarte Nacht in terms of most-listened pieces.
@jonatan0_0
@jonatan0_0 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanpredoi4564 Schoenberg’s first and Beethoven’s last, interesting combination.
@henrythemuthafuckineighth
@henrythemuthafuckineighth 4 жыл бұрын
His hearing was completely gone by the time he wrote this.
@Pawel_Malecki
@Pawel_Malecki 3 жыл бұрын
We know, it shows.
@Skidoo22
@Skidoo22 3 жыл бұрын
Not completely, he was 'hearing' the sounds in his head.
@dachuckinator8953
@dachuckinator8953 3 жыл бұрын
69th like Noice
@larsthorsmith8369
@larsthorsmith8369 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pawel_Malecki this is rubbish Pawel - Beethoven had perfect pitch and heard the music inside himself
@Pawel_Malecki
@Pawel_Malecki 3 жыл бұрын
​@@larsthorsmith8369 Beethoven is rubbish and your comment sounds rather religious.
@timward276
@timward276 3 жыл бұрын
"what the hell do I care what my music sounds like? It's not like *I* have to listen to it!"
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 3 жыл бұрын
- Beethoven, 1825
@Lazuray666
@Lazuray666 Жыл бұрын
He paved the way for modern music, I firmly believe musical developments like metal wouldn't be what it is today without Beethoven
@gagegarner6654
@gagegarner6654 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard people don’t enjoy this for how it sounds but what it presents intellectually and whatnot, or they just don’t like it at all. Am I the only one who enjoys this? It’s packed full of pure emotion!
@argschrecklich9704
@argschrecklich9704 5 ай бұрын
It has a strange allure. I hear a genius that's deeply frustrated with the limits of the formalism and conventions of his art. It's authentic Music that's 200 years too early to be appreciated, and maybe it'll take another 100. I'm a layman, but I've heard everything from Beethoven and in my opinion this is his most remarkable piece because it's so different to everything else he wrote. This music won't come to you, you have to go its place. It's reported that some people thought the old master was now completely deaf and mad after listening to this piece and it was controversial even before being published.
@Iamcwinge1234
@Iamcwinge1234 Жыл бұрын
Glad I persevered in my appreciation of this piece, as with the Hammerklavier and the Op 111. Late Beethoven is always worth the effort of comprehension (if such a word can be applied to such music).
@ShaunakDesaiPiano
@ShaunakDesaiPiano 2 жыл бұрын
This is the music I play when I’m angry with someone, or just a few people. The string orchestra version is what I play when I’m angry at a large group, or just the world.
@vayhn
@vayhn Жыл бұрын
then you absolutely don't get this piece, fuck you
@ayodejifafowora3776
@ayodejifafowora3776 3 жыл бұрын
And to think he wrote this while completely deaf😍😍😍 Legend
@Pawel_Malecki
@Pawel_Malecki 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think being deaf is a necessary requirement to write something this awful.
@otakuxgirl6
@otakuxgirl6 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pawel_Malecki ok boomer Now shut up🤬🤬🤬🤬
@weewee2169
@weewee2169 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pawel_Malecki i agree
@JL.lalaland
@JL.lalaland 3 ай бұрын
​@@Pawel_Malecki😮 ernsthaft??
@micamica2516
@micamica2516 4 жыл бұрын
I love Beethoven's music so much, he's my favorite, but this I heard for the first time now. It's weird and great and emotional and everything at the same time, wow!
@MTMargraf
@MTMargraf 4 жыл бұрын
There is always that one piece by a composer that sounds a period ahead, this is his. Edit: He practically invented Contemporary music.
@ItalianMappingBestMapper
@ItalianMappingBestMapper 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with bach it's probably its fantasia BWV 906
@f.p.2010
@f.p.2010 3 жыл бұрын
Piano sonata 32 movement 2 too
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 жыл бұрын
Well it kind of sounds like the chad in your pfp
@efmusic04
@efmusic04 4 жыл бұрын
This almost sounds like a Shostakovich string quartet.
@milim3dia965
@milim3dia965 4 жыл бұрын
true
@AAA.AAA5
@AAA.AAA5 4 жыл бұрын
Shostakovich almost sounds like this.
@authenticmusic4815
@authenticmusic4815 3 жыл бұрын
@@AAA.AAA5 This is absolutely what i was going to say. Every modern shit is just trying to copy this genial work
@platitudeomenw441
@platitudeomenw441 3 жыл бұрын
@@authenticmusic4815 lol, Shostakovich a modern shit. You're funny
@TheRichNewnes
@TheRichNewnes 3 жыл бұрын
Beethoven was way ahead of his time here. All the music critics of his day condemned this work. The opening theme is so chromatic, that it resembles the twelve-tone system of the 20th century that Arnold Schoenberg championed and pioneered. Schoenberg himself was a huge fan of this piece. Much of this fugue borders on atonality many years before that was a thing.
@aronollerer5745
@aronollerer5745 4 жыл бұрын
they always told Beethoven that he is unable to write a proper fugue so he said fuck it all I will show you that I can write bloody fuge. And that's the result.
@ueuheyeh7354
@ueuheyeh7354 2 жыл бұрын
A deaf dude made this and i cant even do riptide on a ukelele, this man is way over my league
@late8641
@late8641 2 жыл бұрын
He was way over all of our leagues ;) except maybe Bach's...
@JayleenInChains
@JayleenInChains 3 жыл бұрын
a piece he wrote when he was completely deaf... Extraordinary
@alonsorodriguez9270
@alonsorodriguez9270 6 жыл бұрын
Fuga para cuarteto de cuerda en Si bemol mayor ("Grosse Fuge"), Op. 133, escrita en 1825. La Grosse Fuge (Gran Fuga) de Beethoven originalmente fue el final del cuarteto de cuerda nº 13 en Si bemol mayor, Op. 130 [subido en este canal]; de hecho, esta obra se compuso por primera vez junto a esta monumental obra originalmente como su sexto y concluyente movimiento. Sin embargo, la Grosse Fuge, una entidad completa por derecho propio, resultó demasiado difícil para los intérpretes y para algunos miembros de la audiencia. Además, parecía un gran final para el cuarteto relativamente modesto. Beethoven produjo posteriormente un nuevo movimiento final para el cuarteto, un atractivo Rondo más acorde con el espíritu de toda la obra. La Grosse Fuge, publicada finalmente como una obra independiente, es uno de los logros de Beethoven, coronación de toda la música de cámara. El trabajo se abre con una introducción, o "obertura". Aquí el estado de ánimo es dramático, preparando efectivamente el escenario para toda la obra. El tema principal - heroico y desafiante, poderoso y seguro de sí mismo - se presenta en cuatro versiones diferentes. Primero, se toca fortissimo, de una manera enfática, asertiva, que resurgirá como su forma definitiva en la coda. Las apariciones siguientes del tema gradualmente se vuelven más y más tranquilas. La primera sección fugada es una doble fuga marcada Allegro. Aquí el tema principal compite contra otro sujeto, que también es fogoso y asertivo. Su lucha, que incluye un desarrollo sustancial, continúa fortissimo. La segunda sección, marcada Meno mosso e moderato, es también una fuga doble, su lirismo proporciona un contraste efectivo con su predecesor. Aquí surge un nuevo tema del contrapunto de la melodía principal. La tercera sección, marcada Allegro molto e con brio, presenta una lucha adicional en la que el tema finalmente vacila y parece desintegrarse. El segundo sujeto de la primera sección fugada emerge y parece tomar el control. Eventualmente, el tema principal es rejuvenecido en un pasaje marcado Meno mosso moderato, y los signos de lucha se desvanecen en las dos subsecciones del Allegro siguiente. La coda presenta el tema principal en su versión original, pero ahora ampliada y claramente triunfante. El humor se vuelve reflexivo y misterioso, y de repente aparece el segundo tema, apoyado por el tema principal. La obra termina poderosamente y de manera magnífica.
5 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por tu comentario. 💜
@antoniacalderon2257
@antoniacalderon2257 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, creo que todo ésto lo acabo de leer en Wikipedia... 🤔
@fd-bp8sc
@fd-bp8sc 2 жыл бұрын
Gracias x tu comentario
@christianjoseph6502
@christianjoseph6502 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he wrote this while deaf is incredible
@olivierdrouin2701
@olivierdrouin2701 2 жыл бұрын
Pour les harmonies du heiliger dankgedang , oui !!! Mais pas pour ça .
@beethovenlovedmozart
@beethovenlovedmozart Жыл бұрын
Not really. He's a trained musical talent and a great mathematician. You always wrote music before hearing it played back them. The incredible part is staying motivated the last 10 years or his life knowing he can never get the reward of hearing it. Mozart was still #2 all time because of his extra talent . I don't care what they say. :)
@beethovenlovedmozart
@beethovenlovedmozart Жыл бұрын
Number 2 behind Bach. BEETHOVEN IS 3RD.
@dr.g2628
@dr.g2628 6 жыл бұрын
This is the music of the most profoundly juxtaposed soul. Utterly otherworldly. The work of the master! I love it.
@rajay777
@rajay777 3 жыл бұрын
This is the one work of Beethoven’s that Igor Stravinsky pointed out as not too bad.
@olivierdrouin2701
@olivierdrouin2701 2 жыл бұрын
More than not too Bad: incrédible ,hé says
@telemachus53
@telemachus53 Жыл бұрын
Music would never be the same after this. So many composers tried to reach the same level of inventiveness, craftmanship and originality but no one came even near.
@tuxguys
@tuxguys 2 жыл бұрын
My compliments to the Poster for the excellent program notes above. Let me add a few a quotable quotes: "The Great Fugue ... now seems to me the most perfect miracle in music… …It is also the most absolutely contemporary piece of music I know, and contemporary forever ... Hardly birthmarked by its age, the Great Fugue is, in rhythm alone, more subtle than any music of my own century ... I love it beyond everything." -Igor Stravinsky “"the most problematic single work in Beethoven's output and ... doubtless in the entire literature of music.” -Joseph Kernan "For me, the 'Grosse Fuge' is not only the greatest work Beethoven ever wrote but just about the most astonishing piece in musical literature." -Glenn Gould I’ll simply observe that, to my ears, if the listener has a favorite 20th Century “avant-garde” composer (and that could be anyone from Anton Webern to Frank Zappa), that listener will find moments here that seem to actually anticipate those composers, Serialism, and other compositional developments of that century. And Ludwig Van wrote and re-purposed this Musical miracle AFTER he lost his hearing.
@bunagayafrost
@bunagayafrost 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like my life. It is rarely in uniform and often in chaos. I don't know and care why it is great or not, but this is unsettling and comforting at the same time.
@sylvainpenard9354
@sylvainpenard9354 2 жыл бұрын
00:05 : Introduction (Overtura) 00:56 : Première fugue allegro (premier mouvement rapide) 04:38 : Deuxième fugue meno mosso et moderato (mouvement lent) 07:25 : Troisième fugue allegro molto e con brio (scherzo) 11:57 : Coda 12:26 : troisième fugue 14:10 : retour des différents éléments thématiques (cyclique)
@tempoticandmeepstar7584
@tempoticandmeepstar7584 2 жыл бұрын
Considering he was fully deaf when he wrote this, it just makes this even more amazing
@TurquoiseStar17
@TurquoiseStar17 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, at times you can pretty much hear his frustration poured into this.
@Bucketheadhead
@Bucketheadhead 2 жыл бұрын
He wrote some of his best music while completely deaf.
@tempoticandmeepstar7584
@tempoticandmeepstar7584 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bucketheadhead Indeed. He was quite brilliant
@Bucketheadhead
@Bucketheadhead 2 жыл бұрын
@@tempoticandmeepstar7584 I must take issue with you sir, he was not quite brilliant; he was absolutely magnificent.
@tempoticandmeepstar7584
@tempoticandmeepstar7584 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bucketheadhead You are right
@dereklong3140
@dereklong3140 3 жыл бұрын
The predecessor of Brett's Lofi
@TheTaimory1
@TheTaimory1 7 жыл бұрын
What an ingenious work. The representation of life, hideous in it's true form; you have broken melodies and dissonance, just as life where things don't go as planned, it is all a short period of time where most days are heart aches.
@tommeng6522
@tommeng6522 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@MrGer2295
@MrGer2295 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ! Thanks for posting :)
@khool63
@khool63 6 жыл бұрын
on ne se lasse pas de cette fugue magistrale , merci au quatuor talich , féerique comme toujours
@minema7953
@minema7953 Жыл бұрын
I’ma call it “When beethoven meets Webern” imagine that would be a fascinating moment to create this quartet.
@dukeofcurls3183
@dukeofcurls3183 3 жыл бұрын
the first four and a half minutes of this are complete and utter insanity and then you get to 4:38 and you're like "finally a part that sounds fucking normal"
@agogobell28
@agogobell28 5 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect combination of Baroque and Romantic.
@gmmgmmg
@gmmgmmg 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, this sounds as far to Baroque as it can get
@fogonpr
@fogonpr 4 жыл бұрын
@@gmmgmmg I would say this combines modern and late romantic. But baroque? What sounds baroque to you here?
@gmmgmmg
@gmmgmmg 4 жыл бұрын
El Fogon Del Buen Gusto Nothing, 0% baroque, that's exactly what I meant.
@MattWeisherComposer
@MattWeisherComposer 4 жыл бұрын
They meant as far “from” baroque. But there are elements there. I get some Purcell from the early rapid triplets. It’s almost like his mission was to take his theme, incorporate ideas from each preceding musical era and to try to look ahead.
@kelvinluk27
@kelvinluk27 4 жыл бұрын
it sounds more baroque than modern
@gogpoydi
@gogpoydi Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Bachs Art of the Fugue the way its swung
@marichristian1072
@marichristian1072 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you olla-vogala. Critics of the Grosse Fuge, just aren't up to it. Just thrilling to follow the score. My thanks.
@elie2133
@elie2133 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, following the score can be very interesting. I know of a video of mozart's 40th symphony's 4th movement with scores and it's like keeping up with a car race! This fugue though is like keeping up with, I don't know... all the cars in america at once?
@stanisawgabrielrekosz5690
@stanisawgabrielrekosz5690 5 жыл бұрын
Visionary!
@Zeppelinizzer
@Zeppelinizzer Жыл бұрын
This is the greatest thing I have ever heard, actually
@adrianotrentini6755
@adrianotrentini6755 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 жыл бұрын
Quasi-atonality in the 19th century, how nice!
@egon4593
@egon4593 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the craziest works (if not the craziest work) by Beethoven. But for me, this is simply the true final of the B flat major quartet op. 130, and it should be played as the "Final Fugue", die "Schlussfuge ". At least, I understand this piece much better this way.
@mozartwolfgang4656
@mozartwolfgang4656 11 ай бұрын
I find it splendid.
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 жыл бұрын
Great masterpiece!
@user-yp2mg5hl9o
@user-yp2mg5hl9o Жыл бұрын
11:17 - 11:55 About 40 seconds of true ecstasy...
@granttherock9121
@granttherock9121 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t deserve to hear this. This is the greatest piece of music I have ever heard.
@yalz302
@yalz302 9 ай бұрын
I am not here to disagree but do you mind explaining why?
@Guest-lm5qp
@Guest-lm5qp 5 ай бұрын
@@yalz302 90% of the people in this comment section probably think this doesnt sound good while at the same time talking about about how absolutely magnificent this fugue is. Evidence: The abundance of comments that describe this as “anger”, when it 1. Does not sound angry(subjective ig) 2. Does not make sense in the context of the whole fugue, at all This composition is obviously great and the extensive use of dissonance is innovative of course, but that does not change anything about the ideas presented itself, its not some art-defying thing that people in the comments are making it out to be. It ranks easily with or higher than his late piano sonatas, which have similarly engaging ideas
@ShivaShankar-dq8ui
@ShivaShankar-dq8ui Жыл бұрын
Superb!
@jraldne1
@jraldne1 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!...
@seponvi
@seponvi 7 жыл бұрын
The technique of the Great Fugue is amazing !!!! Beethoven was ahead of other composers with this work. Premonition of the XIX classical styles !!!! Thanks Olla Vogala
@olla-vogala4090
@olla-vogala4090 7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian, you are very welcome!!
@cubanbach
@cubanbach 8 жыл бұрын
Exquisite playing all around... every recording brings a new hue to this revolutionary masterpiece... The ability to follow the score so splendidly has almost rid me of the need to follow my own mini score's ratty-edged pages... what a delight. Thank you, OLLA-VOGALA!
@olla-vogala4090
@olla-vogala4090 8 жыл бұрын
+cubanbach You're very welcome :)
@cubanbach
@cubanbach 8 жыл бұрын
:) I'm so glad! :)
@opa301
@opa301 8 жыл бұрын
bravo. thank you
@lalogicadeazzdy
@lalogicadeazzdy 5 жыл бұрын
Es un genio...aun en su lecho de muerte seguía componiendo....
@gmmgmmg
@gmmgmmg 4 жыл бұрын
This is basically the XIX century equivalent of Trout Mask Replica.
@Robertbrucelockhart
@Robertbrucelockhart 2 жыл бұрын
I used to smoke a big doobie and listen to this. So freaky! Now that I no longer indulge in that bad habit, this music still takes me back into that headspace. However, at the same time, I suspect it’s one of those works that help give classical music its reputation among the peasantry for inaccessibility.
@iloverumi
@iloverumi Жыл бұрын
thanks for posting
@appasonata2
@appasonata2 6 жыл бұрын
Omg 😮 amazing amazing amazing
@ethansaltmere
@ethansaltmere 8 жыл бұрын
by the way olla vogala you are a god doing so much for art music
@wtvhdentertainmentpro6064
@wtvhdentertainmentpro6064 5 жыл бұрын
...he should’ve written a series of fugues like this one...that would’ve been even more incredible...
@fredericchopin7538
@fredericchopin7538 2 жыл бұрын
Delightful!
@stephenhall3515
@stephenhall3515 6 жыл бұрын
This is supremely well played. Sadly the Budapest version on YT is way off form so treasure this and that by the Vegh Quartet. Thank you for posting it.
@Itemtotem
@Itemtotem 3 жыл бұрын
If only Beethoven had lived to not hear how this piece single-handedly inspired/predicted Schoenberg's approach to atonality.
@vladtepes3123
@vladtepes3123 6 жыл бұрын
After that Bartok's quartets sounds nice.
@DanielFahimi
@DanielFahimi 3 жыл бұрын
No! This piece is God-Like
@elcucumber2847
@elcucumber2847 3 жыл бұрын
not to mention they are much, much, much more well written!!!
@DanielFahimi
@DanielFahimi 3 жыл бұрын
@@elcucumber2847 Shut up!!!!!!!!!
@DanielFahimi
@DanielFahimi 3 жыл бұрын
@@elcucumber2847 No Chamber work on earth is better than the Grosse Fuge other than Mozart's Adagio and Fugue In C Minor!!!!!!!
@ha3vy
@ha3vy 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielFahimi bartok's string quartet use the string quartet's colour pallette a lot better. Not saying they're better but they are comparable. Probably the most important string quartets since Beethoven's
@alecrechtiene558
@alecrechtiene558 2 жыл бұрын
He really did take “just do it!” to the next level🤣🤣
@googleguy-ft8xh
@googleguy-ft8xh 2 жыл бұрын
so cool!!!
@randiey95
@randiey95 3 жыл бұрын
9:43 - 10:03 i feel you beethoven
@dr.g2628
@dr.g2628 5 жыл бұрын
Beethoven's greatest work!
@null_point1
@null_point1 5 жыл бұрын
Kesinlikle harika. Bu benim en sevdiğim parçası👏👏👏👏👏
@wobblyorbee279
@wobblyorbee279 2 жыл бұрын
its composed in 1826 thats why omg it sounds so UNIQUE i really cant explain.... THAT BEGINNING was so like DIFFERENT than any other of beethoven works or even maybe anyone's works the transition to the fugue was also unexpected.... WOW..... everything in this piece makes it so interesting
@microitos9754
@microitos9754 Жыл бұрын
It literally sounds like a piece from the 1900s
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 5 жыл бұрын
I think whatever's going on in the score at 11:17 is the Beethovenian equivalent of "more cowbell".
@HanoiViaBangkok
@HanoiViaBangkok 4 жыл бұрын
can you explain why, please?
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 4 жыл бұрын
@@HanoiViaBangkok Every note marked _forte_
@muhammadluqmanqadarrusman2453
@muhammadluqmanqadarrusman2453 Жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna talk about Beethoven wrote this by only imaginated the sound? (since he was already totally deaf)
@eblackadder3
@eblackadder3 10 ай бұрын
​@@dejuren1367Beethoven never became totally deaf. He could distinguish low tones and very loud, shrill sounds.
@DDSilver2024
@DDSilver2024 2 жыл бұрын
This is just ahead of its time. This is the kind of thing Hollywood turns to when they want "classical" music that fits the mood of their production. That doesn't mean it's bad, or "too commercial." It's just not music for inspiring emotion, it's music to enhance emotion already present. It's the condiment version of music - not an inherently bad thing, but not intended as a main course.
@adrianotrentini6755
@adrianotrentini6755 4 жыл бұрын
one of best of beethoven
@machida5114
@machida5114 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
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