Luigi Cadorna - The Generalissimo I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1?

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Luigi Cadorna was the Italian Chief of Staff when World War 1 broke out and when Italy joined the conflict a year later. He was a man of tradition and believed that most important factor of military success was the will and determination of his soldiers. During the numerous Battles of the Isonzo River, this doctrine proofed disastrous for his troops.
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@Nikolapoleon
@Nikolapoleon 7 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: The only general in human history that could possibly be beaten by Conrad Von Hotzendorf
@gcircle
@gcircle 7 жыл бұрын
and not because Conrad was superior, but because Cadorna outhotzendorfed himself
@mattosterud5539
@mattosterud5539 7 жыл бұрын
He would have compared solidly to Constantin Prezan. (The head of the Rumanian army.)
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 7 жыл бұрын
try saying "outhotzendorfed" or just outhotzendorf 10 times fast.
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 7 жыл бұрын
true tho
@vector2799
@vector2799 6 жыл бұрын
and enver pasa
@kevinoneal9779
@kevinoneal9779 7 жыл бұрын
Who's ready for 372628th battle of the Isonzo?
@mattiagordon9481
@mattiagordon9481 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin O'Neal oh they win on the 13th
@mergele1000
@mergele1000 7 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with you? That was three days ago.
@HaloFTW55
@HaloFTW55 7 жыл бұрын
Is there enough troops left?
@darthguilder1923
@darthguilder1923 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan Lee no but we'll do it anyway
@hemmingwayfan
@hemmingwayfan 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan Lee Just Luigi, his wife, and their pet tortoise, Alan.
@MarekDohojda
@MarekDohojda 7 жыл бұрын
So what have we learned here? A) Cadorna was the best Austrian General of the war B) When all else fails, call Germans to fight for you.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 7 жыл бұрын
Marek Dohojda I think, the best was Marshal Schwarzenberg of Austria XD. I appointed him Marshal but he barely knows tactics! Lmao
@abu-hureraali4531
@abu-hureraali4531 7 жыл бұрын
Napoleon I Bonaparte It was Mack single handedly defended Ulm capturing the entire French army and all while he was drunk.
@jrk1666
@jrk1666 5 жыл бұрын
@slovene ball its a joke about how bad cadorna was at doing his job
@13gladius28
@13gladius28 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrk1666 Carefull, he may be one of Cadorna's descendents
@guilhermegarcia8750
@guilhermegarcia8750 3 жыл бұрын
Rommel and 30 germans beat Cadorna.
@caake4793
@caake4793 7 жыл бұрын
DAYS SINCE LAST BATTLE FOR THE ISONZO: 0
@l.o4456
@l.o4456 7 жыл бұрын
Haha xD
@theastrogamer710
@theastrogamer710 7 жыл бұрын
"seconds"
@mattiagordon9481
@mattiagordon9481 7 жыл бұрын
Seaman Staines achutualy that woud be 4 months
@mergele1000
@mergele1000 7 жыл бұрын
The big question here is not the number at the end of the sign, but if someone wasted time and resources design the sign in a way hat could display other numbers.
@wach9191
@wach9191 7 жыл бұрын
Comedy gold right here. I feel a bit bad about all those poor soldiers...
@Flakfire
@Flakfire 7 жыл бұрын
How not to be a General 101.
@Ashfielder
@Ashfielder 7 жыл бұрын
Flakfire "What do you mean the battle was lost? Do it again! And again! And again and again and again!"
@Geckogamer19
@Geckogamer19 7 жыл бұрын
Toby Wood "have you tried to turn it on and off again"
@michaellejeune7715
@michaellejeune7715 6 жыл бұрын
His major pupil being marshal Haig.
@internethardcase
@internethardcase 3 жыл бұрын
But how to be an Italian 101.
@manuelmarianosilva7685
@manuelmarianosilva7685 7 жыл бұрын
Cadorna's reputation is indeed so bad that those italians who emmigrated to Argentina during, or shortly after, WWI started using his name as a way of saying that something was useless. Whenever someone complained too much about anything they couldn't really do anything about, they would reply "go complain to Cadorna". The expresion became so popular that, to this day it is still used, now as a simple noun devoid of the personal reference, to refer to low quality things. "Ésto es una cadorna!" (literally "this is a cadorna") is a fairly common expression amongst argentinians of any origin, which denotes low quality and/or uslessness.
@mazadancoseben4818
@mazadancoseben4818 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🤣🤣 Man made a legacy
@Urlocallordandsavior
@Urlocallordandsavior 2 жыл бұрын
Is this true?
@sitrakaforler8696
@sitrakaforler8696 2 жыл бұрын
Dam really ? 😂
@gustavokibasha1585
@gustavokibasha1585 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard this and i live in argentina, probably not in use anymore
@gustidu
@gustidu Ай бұрын
Yes is true. I'm argentinian. Older generations often calls "cadorna" of anything of low quality.
@thexalon
@thexalon 7 жыл бұрын
Cadorna: World War I's Zapp Brannigan. "Stop dying, you cowards!"
@ZayanK
@ZayanK 7 жыл бұрын
thexalon There's nothing sexy about Cadorna's learning disabilities!
@Pikkabuu
@Pikkabuu 7 жыл бұрын
Hey. Brannigan is more competent than Cadorna could have ever dreamed of.
@ackershus6276
@ackershus6276 6 жыл бұрын
That's insanely hilarious!!!
@retardosaurusrex360
@retardosaurusrex360 7 жыл бұрын
Generalissimo Cadorna, what is the attack plan for today? Cadorna: The same thing we do every day Pinkey: a frontal attack on the Isonzo river, up a mountain, directly towards Austrian machine-gun positions, at the same time as yesterday and with no artillery support. I gave a good speech to the men last night and their morale is high, so it should be a success!
@dariusgherle3215
@dariusgherle3215 7 жыл бұрын
Retardosaurusrex Cadorna:Tomorrow, we will have to change our uniforms to bright red cause i heard red is a color who atracts machine gun bullets better than French's blue ones. And it makes the soldiers more confident.
@Pikkabuu
@Pikkabuu 7 жыл бұрын
Zapp Brannigan looks competent next to Cadorna. What ever Cadorna paid for his PR team clearly wasn't enough.
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH 7 жыл бұрын
Pikkabuu you know, a human wave fares much better attacking a machine gun head on than attacking a few hundred meters to its side.
@rhadooxxl
@rhadooxxl 6 жыл бұрын
Actually I think his real name was Generalissimo Zappo Brannigani
@Hardmetal1993
@Hardmetal1993 6 жыл бұрын
"It's just going to take extreme courage, and vigourous bravery to overcome these machine guns"
@operationmeh
@operationmeh 7 жыл бұрын
I've waited for this video for 112 years, and 113 battles on the Isonzo.
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 7 жыл бұрын
you mean just 12 there.
@operationmeh
@operationmeh 7 жыл бұрын
No I don't
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 7 жыл бұрын
The Guy Good, I waited my entire lifetime and for the advent of internet for this...
@EcsMurphy
@EcsMurphy 7 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cardorna, the ultimate EU4 player focusing only and purely on morale.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 7 жыл бұрын
Ecs Murphy The one who keeps rebuilding each lost unit and keeps getting mowed down by tanks
@lordpinochetuttp3819
@lordpinochetuttp3819 6 жыл бұрын
Morale is useless, it's all about the discipline
@user-kt3jk1vq9o
@user-kt3jk1vq9o 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordpinochetuttp3819 American generals in vietnam be like
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
But for one so obsessed with moral he didn't really do a lot of work to improve it.
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
You mean Diaz
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax 7 жыл бұрын
Mario has more military knowledge than Luigi Cadorna
@joey8062
@joey8062 7 жыл бұрын
what about Bowser
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a little hairy man in red overalls jumping around in Austrian trenches causing general havoc
@meme-oy7ic
@meme-oy7ic 5 жыл бұрын
he would go to Berlin if he was in charge
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 4 жыл бұрын
@@manfromnantucket9544 Then Mecha Hitler from Wolfenstein 3D comes in to machine gun the Italian army
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 4 жыл бұрын
Damn right he does. That's why they call them the super MARIO brothers and not Luigi lol
@angels2online
@angels2online 7 жыл бұрын
The man, the myth, the legend.
@Denis-yz5dq
@Denis-yz5dq 7 жыл бұрын
LUIGI CADORNA!!!!
@StrangerOman
@StrangerOman 5 жыл бұрын
The meme.
@zosko1
@zosko1 7 жыл бұрын
The finest general who ever lived. When a strategy didn't work, he courageously tried it again! And again.
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he would have had enough courage to remove headphone jacks.
@zosko1
@zosko1 7 жыл бұрын
I think he would, but after three years of trying, they'd only be half way off.
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
And again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again and again.
@homuraakemi1684
@homuraakemi1684 7 жыл бұрын
and again and again. I believe combined, that's one for each battle of the isonzo
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
After all: "General Cadorna has lost his head, he calls 099 to say he pees on bed" (Italian WW1 song translated).
@TheGM-20XX
@TheGM-20XX 7 жыл бұрын
If at first you don't succeed, Try, try, try again. then when that don't work try some more. then another 7 or so times.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
The Cadorna rule.
@whiterosecicero4802
@whiterosecicero4802 7 жыл бұрын
That should be a quote on a shirt.
@dekametr
@dekametr 7 жыл бұрын
that is also Douglas Haig tactic
@l.o4456
@l.o4456 7 жыл бұрын
+Deka Metr Yep
@Ganjalfiltubo
@Ganjalfiltubo 7 жыл бұрын
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
@canicheenrage
@canicheenrage 7 жыл бұрын
"Did i ever tell you what the definition of insanity is ?" Luigi Cadorna, apocryphal, 1917.
@curiobill
@curiobill 7 жыл бұрын
Did the Austro-Hungarians ever give him any medals?
@timdewit6088
@timdewit6088 7 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, that 'it's a nice way to say I'm ugly'-quote cracked me up. Sure he was an authoritarian, foolhardy, prima donna, incompetent generalissimo, but at least he had some humor.
@gunnerr8476
@gunnerr8476 7 жыл бұрын
I am Isonzo and this video was very "offensive"
@ncrveteranranger9126
@ncrveteranranger9126 6 жыл бұрын
Afnan Zahran lmao
@RKNGL
@RKNGL 7 жыл бұрын
It's an insult to the Roman Legions to compare this guy to them, let alone mention them in the same sentence.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 6 жыл бұрын
Like the romans never had terrible generals and terrible defeats en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arausio
@mariocassina90
@mariocassina90 7 жыл бұрын
Luigi's main strategy to overcome austro-hungarian lines was to jump on the head of the enemy...
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
+Mario Cassina but it only worked for the Austro-Hungarian mushroom corps
@talatq719
@talatq719 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I see what you did there!
@------o
@------o 6 жыл бұрын
"Beatings will continue until morale improves" - Generalisimo I 1916
@andrewwilson5133
@andrewwilson5133 7 жыл бұрын
Luigi "break that line or it's court martial time" Cadorna Luigi "the human sausage-maker" Cadorna Luigi "it's no killing field if you kill in the mountains" Cadorna Luigi "After Isonzo those Austrians are donezo" Cadorna Luigi "the second coming of Pyrrhus" Cadorna Luigi "to make the Austrians go, I must kill the dago" Cadorna Luigi "to secure the Isonzo my troops will be gonezo" Cadorna Luigi "spill my spaghetti, turn my men into confetti" Cadorna Luigi "a tenth time will kill the kraut, I have no doubt" Cadorna Luigi "1000 Arditi for every pollice" Cadorna Luigi "Italian Hotzendorf" Cadorna Luigi "If you had eleven shots, eleven oportunities" Cadorna Luigi "Advance, what is that?" Cadorna Luigi "It's not a battle until I lose at least ten thousand men" Cadorna Luigi "One more division" Cadorna Luigi "Send more infantry" Cadorna Luigi "Eleventh time's the charm" Cadorna Luigi "Bring the casualties up to eleven" Cadorna Luigi "Spaghetti and meat grinders" Cadorna Luigi "The Man from P.Y.R.R.H.U.S" Cadorna Luigi "Isonzodlwana" Cadorna Luigi "HE DID IT AGAIN" Cadorna Luigi "We have reserves" Cadorna Luigi "Italians? In MY army?" Cadorna
@Kenbow183
@Kenbow183 5 жыл бұрын
I can't breathe, this is perhaps one of the two funniest things I have seen in the comments after watching The Great War.
@awildtannerwasfound5045
@awildtannerwasfound5045 5 жыл бұрын
Spill my spaghetti the troops become ravioli.
@Adonnus100
@Adonnus100 4 жыл бұрын
Isonzodlwana lmao
@lawrencemiller7442
@lawrencemiller7442 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸 Luigi "They can't possibly kill all my men!" Cadorna
@harrisonvc9175
@harrisonvc9175 3 жыл бұрын
Luigi “who needs big guns to take down the hun?” Cadorna
@wolfehoffmann2697
@wolfehoffmann2697 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. The definition of "A bad workman blames his tools."
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 3 жыл бұрын
Cadorna has literally started the rumor that Italian soldiers were cowards no joke
@tomnook4048
@tomnook4048 7 жыл бұрын
This war is truly fascinating!!! It's such a shame how this point in human history is overshadowed by the Second World War. Keep up the great work Indy and team!
@dams6829
@dams6829 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed my asexual friend.
@gavin169
@gavin169 7 жыл бұрын
Even T.E. Lawrence enjoys your stuff, proves how well you're all doing. Keep it up!
@mazadancoseben4818
@mazadancoseben4818 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavin169 , what? Oh. Got it
@RawkLobstah88
@RawkLobstah88 7 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: Victory is determined by the demoralization of the enemy. Also Luigi Cadorna: STOP EXPLODING, YOU COWARDS!
@raduvlad4429
@raduvlad4429 5 жыл бұрын
@Peter S stfu.
@hiroprotagonest
@hiroprotagonest 3 жыл бұрын
7:43 "When the Italian army faced disaster in the field, he would not blame his own failings, or his enemy's skill, but rather, he found fault within his own troops." Ah, Cadorna was the typical solo queue player.
@SuperAerie
@SuperAerie 7 жыл бұрын
That man was as far from being a Roman as possible. The romans were especially known for being very pragmatic in just about everything and had a very good grasp of the logistics of prolonged military campaigns, same cant be said about Cadorna at all
@Urlocallordandsavior
@Urlocallordandsavior 2 жыл бұрын
Cadorna was arguably too pragmatic in constantly attacking the same location over and over.
@doigt6590
@doigt6590 Жыл бұрын
I'm reading ancient roman history and most of the "talented" consuls/military tribunes/dictators were really just very rigorous, strict and charismatic leaders who could inspire religious zeal and fighting spirit in their troops. The fact that Cadorna is very much about troop morale more than anything else combined with the fact that he was very religious makes him more Ancient Roman than Italian.
@AlanDeAnda1
@AlanDeAnda1 7 жыл бұрын
I'm only here to watch the Cardona jokes
@KingoftheSlavs
@KingoftheSlavs 7 жыл бұрын
This video would have been much better if it had more Isonzo offensives. I'm sure the 13th Isonzo offensive would have broken the Austrians finally.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
We are working on more offensives.
@mihovillmisha9885
@mihovillmisha9885 2 жыл бұрын
He was fighting against my grandfathers, the Croats an impossible task.0
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 7 жыл бұрын
Conrad von Hotzendorf's only equal in battle.
@Poffean
@Poffean 4 жыл бұрын
Nonono, don't insult hotzendorf
@mazadancoseben4818
@mazadancoseben4818 3 жыл бұрын
He is superior to Hotzendorf By being inferior to him
@urishima
@urishima 7 жыл бұрын
"It's a nice way of saying that I am ugly." Well, at least the guy had a sense of humor.
@CauliflaA34
@CauliflaA34 7 жыл бұрын
"It's a nice way to say I'm ugly"
@karlkarlos3545
@karlkarlos3545 7 жыл бұрын
The first and only time he was ever right about something.
@Dumpster-Baby
@Dumpster-Baby 6 жыл бұрын
Nice profile picture and banner
@EdVarkarion
@EdVarkarion 6 жыл бұрын
At least he had a sense of humor
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, even the ancient roman generals had the honour to kill themselves when they failed.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
One of the Russian generals did that too after Tannenberg, didn't he?
@abu-hureraali4531
@abu-hureraali4531 7 жыл бұрын
The Great War Yeah Rennenkapmf was his name.
@badoodadoodadoo7653
@badoodadoodadoo7653 5 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Franz Joseph I *Samsonov did; he was Rennenkampfs rival.
@leoskini
@leoskini 7 жыл бұрын
As an old anti-military italian song goes "Il general Cadorna ha detto alla Regina/ Vuoi vedere Trieste? Te la mando in cartolina" (The general Cadorna said to the Queen / You want Trieste? I'lll get you a postcard)
@alessandromasnada4588
@alessandromasnada4588 7 жыл бұрын
As an Italian I give to your pronunciation a 8/10, not bad, but there were some things impossible to hear for me. Keep up the good work!
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
That means we definitely improved.
@alessandromasnada4588
@alessandromasnada4588 7 жыл бұрын
The Great War You surely did.
@mattiagordon9481
@mattiagordon9481 7 жыл бұрын
The Great War that is right to say well done its hard for englisch speakers to learn italian sooooo more like9/10
@Maxjeix01
@Maxjeix01 7 жыл бұрын
Il Capitalista hey!
@Solaxe
@Solaxe 7 жыл бұрын
Italian is one of the easiest languages to learn pronounciation
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
I have one interesting fact about Cadorna: he gave origin to a word used in Argentinian Spanish, "cadorna", which means "low quality", since Italian immigrants in Argentina during the 1920s went saying that he was mad and really low quality. It's still used today. Also, he's probably the only general whose soldiers composed a song dedicated to him saying that he was mad. My beloved "General Cadorna" song (here an English translation): General Cadorna wrote to the Queen: "If you want to see Trieste send you a Postcard!" General Cadorna eats up the Bistec and to the poor soldiers gives us dry chestnuts General Cadorna has become mad, he calls 999 to say he's still a boy General Cadorna has lost his head, he calls 999 to say he pisses on his bed. General Cadorna wrote this sentence: "Get me Gorizia and I'll get you a license!" General Cadorna he eats, he drinks, he sleeps. And the poor soldier goes to war and doesn't come back.
@that1guy335
@that1guy335 7 жыл бұрын
Who would ever pay for a WW1 history class when Indy's channel exists?
@BillyMartin4Life
@BillyMartin4Life 7 жыл бұрын
Nature Boy simple, it would be because a college hired Indy to teach a class about World War I.
@that1guy335
@that1guy335 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Gonzalez uh...what?
@BillyMartin4Life
@BillyMartin4Life 7 жыл бұрын
Nature Boy You asked why who someone pay for a history class about WWI when you can watch The Great War. So what i was trying to say is that the reason people would chose to go with a class is because Indy himself is teaching that class. And besides, wouldnt it be awesome to take a class about WWI with Indy as the teacher? lol
@dams6829
@dams6829 7 жыл бұрын
He woudlnt be teacher. He would be much more.
@dariusgherle3215
@dariusgherle3215 7 жыл бұрын
Nature Boy I imagine Indy ass a history teacher to be that kind of teacher who is very proud of his work and when you ask him a question he explains everything with the smallest details.
@ollie9406
@ollie9406 7 жыл бұрын
Disappointed you never mentioned his staring roll in 'Rumble on the Isonzo'
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
His most glorious moment.
@ikentspell2659
@ikentspell2659 7 жыл бұрын
Now do one for Mario Cadorna
@muhamadirfanisamily7663
@muhamadirfanisamily7663 2 жыл бұрын
Mario modern
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 7 жыл бұрын
Any of the great Roman Generals - Caesar, Pompey, Sulla, Marius, Scipio, Marcus Aggripa - would have destroyed Cadorna in battle and had him garotted at their Triumph.
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 7 жыл бұрын
***** Any of the Roman generals I named would have quickly grasped the significance of modern weapons and made sure their troops were properly armed.They were adaptable. Cadorna was not.
@delvescoa
@delvescoa 6 жыл бұрын
Even Hannibal with his elephants would have crushed Cadorna's lines
@electricdreams8237
@electricdreams8237 5 жыл бұрын
@Peter S In that case don't go to the offensive. Duh.
@jeffreywong33
@jeffreywong33 8 ай бұрын
even Valens or Varus will defeat him easily.
@velikiradojica
@velikiradojica 7 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Cadorna's daughters for not reproducing. Great job girls!
@rlbadger1698
@rlbadger1698 7 жыл бұрын
You don't go girls!
@solwen
@solwen 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were sent to become nuns because they had reproduced before marriage (and daddy Cadorna was not very pleased about it)
@OrsoBart7734
@OrsoBart7734 7 жыл бұрын
I know it's just a joke, but his son Raffaele Cadorna was a much better man than him. He joined the military like his father, but despite the rise of Fascism in Italy he always remained anti-Fascist and was one of the few people that strongly criticized the war with Ethiopia in 1935-36. Then when the Germans invaded Italy in 1943 his Armored Division managed to stop the enemies from advancing on Rome, and the Germans decided to outflank them rather than suffer further casualties since the rest of the front was scarcely defended. After that he joined the Italian resistance movement and became Supreme Commander of the partisans forces and coordinated the operations that led to the insurgence and liberation of the North Italian cities in 1945 and the capture of hundreds of German and Fascist troops. So as you can see he did pretty good, too bad that his father wasn't like him.
@saddamhussein3849
@saddamhussein3849 7 жыл бұрын
So his son redeemed his family name? That's nice to hear. :)
@mnemonija
@mnemonija 7 жыл бұрын
I imagine sad reality is that a lot of Italian young women decided to become nuns, on the account that the laws probably did not allow them to even own propety without being married to a man, and all men being dead for some reason.
@jaybirdzz
@jaybirdzz 7 жыл бұрын
It is amazing what the same troops commanded by LC accomplished in 1917-8 when commanded by Armando Diaz.
@danielegiuntini8844
@danielegiuntini8844 4 жыл бұрын
@Peter S The same could be said for Austrians. The only real success they had against Italy was in Caporetto (and in that offensive most important successes were made by germans). In mountain warfare was truly hard to break enemy lines with old tactics, this is why in italian front was so difficult to reach territorial gains for both counterparts.
@joey8062
@joey8062 7 жыл бұрын
I really do feel sorry for Italian soldiers in both world wars because they did have some good weapons even if they came late in the war but the leadership was just horrible.
@nicolebrown1162
@nicolebrown1162 6 жыл бұрын
joey8062 yep, lions led by donkeys.
@giovanniargentino6335
@giovanniargentino6335 10 ай бұрын
​@@nicolebrown11621
@ThroughTheBarricade
@ThroughTheBarricade 7 жыл бұрын
it's an insult to compare him to the generals of ancient Rome.
@lordpinochetuttp3819
@lordpinochetuttp3819 6 жыл бұрын
It's an insult to call him a general
@badoodadoodadoo7653
@badoodadoodadoo7653 5 жыл бұрын
It’s an insult to call “him” a “him”. “He” don’t have the balls to attack anywhere else.
@scottcookson6174
@scottcookson6174 4 жыл бұрын
ThroughTheBarricade Maybe he meant Publius Quinctilius Varus.
@ygma1460
@ygma1460 7 жыл бұрын
A violent melee battle to death takes place, where only unarmed combat between two men is allowed in a boxing ring. One one corner, we have Cadorna and in the other, von Hotzendorf! Battle starts! Cadorna charges, but trips over his own ears! Von Hotzendorf sees the opportunity and moves in, but gets stuck in the border ropes! Cadorna gets up, sees his opponent undefended and only one punch would be needed to knock him out, so Cadorna backs in the corner and goes into defense! Von Hotzendorf gets up, and declares he made a great defensive victory! Cadorna blames his trainer for giving him wrong shoes! Von Hotzendorf is making plans to move into another ring to fight Cadorna there! The battle continues...
@FranL97
@FranL97 5 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: exists Isonzo river: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@kdawg2446
@kdawg2446 7 жыл бұрын
So Cadorna had an Old Guard state of mind like everybody else before and during the Great War
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
But he certainly set it to 11.
@MakeMeThinkAgain
@MakeMeThinkAgain 7 жыл бұрын
I had a history professor, of Italian ancestry, who maintained the reason for the Italian army and navy was so to give the Austrians someone they could beat.
@tommasorucci4088
@tommasorucci4088 7 жыл бұрын
MakeMeThinkAgain veeeery funny
@aleksk4151
@aleksk4151 7 жыл бұрын
LOOL
@Patavium-pb5cd
@Patavium-pb5cd 7 жыл бұрын
MakeMeThinkAgain But Italy won.
@nicolebrown1162
@nicolebrown1162 6 жыл бұрын
Patavium 1866 yeah. Because of Anglo-French support.
@is3t
@is3t 6 жыл бұрын
Will Davey Ahahahaha what an ignorant... UK and french did nothing for helping Italy...
@jamier65551
@jamier65551 2 жыл бұрын
Legend says Cadorna was planning the 13th battle of the Isonzo when he was removed.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this channel, I've added a lot of new entrants on my "List of Historical Figures I'd Punch in the Face if I Could Travel Back in Time." Cadorna is one of them, sandwiched between Thomas Edison and Aaron Burr.
@solarsceptile5908
@solarsceptile5908 7 жыл бұрын
but is von Hotzendorf on that list?
@arx3516
@arx3516 4 жыл бұрын
It would be funny to see Cadorna in a trench giving his orders directly to the soldiers.
@DrVictorVasconcelos
@DrVictorVasconcelos Жыл бұрын
He's 100% right that morale is the most important thing. The worst equipped wins if the best equipped doesn't want to fight. But you need logistics, materiel, and strategy TO HAVE MORALE. For someone who recognized morale as important, he sure did a lot to destroy it.
@theastrogamer710
@theastrogamer710 7 жыл бұрын
The title is wrong it should be "Luigi Cadorna - The Idiotissimo I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1?" or "Luigi Cadorna - The Incompotetisimo I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1?" but otherwise the video is good.
@hakon_brennus_wolff106
@hakon_brennus_wolff106 5 жыл бұрын
If only he had as much skill and prowess as he had middle names.
@espeon91
@espeon91 6 жыл бұрын
The great general Luigi Cadorna, proud member of the exclusive Hotzendorf club.
@marcbagwell6109
@marcbagwell6109 7 жыл бұрын
Love the series! It's the best I've seen. Well done, sir.
@mattguellec
@mattguellec 3 жыл бұрын
*Cadorna appears* Von Hotzendorf : Finally a worthy opponent !
@connman4008
@connman4008 7 жыл бұрын
Indy is awesome. I wish he was one my school's history teachers. Great video as always. Been watching since December 2014 but don't comment much. Love how big and better this channel has become. I've learned a lot from this channel and will watch till the war's end.
@crucial3267
@crucial3267 4 жыл бұрын
Italian General Staff: Okay how about you not attack Isonzo again? Luigi Cardorna: How About I Do *A N Y W A Y*
@Chalupacabra52
@Chalupacabra52 7 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and I'm very excited that you've mentioned Canadians in previous episodes. I was wondering if you've considered talking about Matron-in-Chief Margaret MacDonald or possibly the interesting behind the scenes of war story of Major Harry Colebourn and his bear named Winnie (later inspiration for Winnie The Pooh). Thanks again for this amazing ongoing series! Keep up the fantastic work!
@F1NNxsK1LLS
@F1NNxsK1LLS 7 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! I learn so much more here than I ever did in my soulless note taking date memorizing classes.
@dams6829
@dams6829 7 жыл бұрын
Few weeks before war starts old chief of staf dies and Cadorna comes in place. Coincidence? I think not.
@nikitamysakov846
@nikitamysakov846 4 жыл бұрын
Cadorna can be indirectly blamed for fascism success in Italy. The same soldiers he treated as a cattle treat the civilians as a cattle later on.
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 7 жыл бұрын
_- What is it, General?_ - My Lord, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed. Com Scan has detected an energy field protecting an area of the sixth planet of the Hoth System. The field is strong enough to deflect any bombardment. _- The Rebels are alerted to our presence! Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system._ - He... he felt surprise was wiser... _- He is as clumsy as he is stupid! General... prepare your troops for a surface attack._ - Yes, my Lord! Next Scene - Lord Vader, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed and we're preparing to... _- You have failed me for the last time, Admiral!_ *_I don't know why, this is the first thing that came in to my mind..._*
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
It was the Force
@tunch90
@tunch90 6 жыл бұрын
You are in command now Generale Diaz!
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 3 жыл бұрын
Cadorna Great-Grandson has sued an historian who DARED to remember Italy what kind of general he was.
@alecadanglao8386
@alecadanglao8386 7 жыл бұрын
Loving the new maps keep it up!!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@Blankskeen
@Blankskeen Жыл бұрын
The man that encapsulates "Paths of Glory" like no one else.
@gunslinger1911a1
@gunslinger1911a1 7 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact Indy, that the Roman's accepted their losses realistically and knew the value of their weapons and armor and especially their engineering. Glorious Caesar, when he was defeated in Gaul before he conquered it, stated that it was his fault and until his men no longer suffered, he would suffer with them. Doing so he stopped shaving and properly grooming. He was known to be something of a dandy. Consider this. However, he used engineering to crush the Guals in their final stand, forcing a besieged force against his walls, and breaking a relief force on said walls as well, At the same damn time!
@vogonford
@vogonford 7 жыл бұрын
Come see Luigi Cadorna and watch his 12 greatest hits!
@royalradish9412
@royalradish9412 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy and team! Could you make a special episode or an out of the trenches segment about music during WW1? What were the songs of the time that soldiers liked to listen to? What were some of the official military/ government songs and anthems of the various nations? Songs like "it's a long way to Tipperary" come to mind.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
We really want to. We have a lot of research from fans actually. But we are standing in front of the topic and don't know what to do with it, honestly. Have to meditate a bit more on it.
@tonlito22
@tonlito22 7 жыл бұрын
What's Italian for disaster: Caporetto or Cadorna?
@HaNNibal97smiTH
@HaNNibal97smiTH 7 жыл бұрын
Caporetto
@YoHoOMirster
@YoHoOMirster 7 жыл бұрын
Italy JK pls dont kill me
@HaNNibal97smiTH
@HaNNibal97smiTH 7 жыл бұрын
мisteг Rㅇьloχiдп lol
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
In Italian not, but in Argentinian Spanish "cadorna" means "low quality".
@biobomb93
@biobomb93 5 жыл бұрын
It is Caporetto, we say it for real "è stata una Caporetto" when you mess up really bad.
@edoardobartolini3098
@edoardobartolini3098 7 жыл бұрын
Actually the Risorgimento ended in 1918.
@bobthecopywriter
@bobthecopywriter 7 жыл бұрын
Just turned on auto alerts. Had heard rumors of mysterious KZfaq unsubscriptions, but now, with this channel, I've experienced it. You may want to warn other viewers in an upcoming Out Of The Trenches episode. Again, this is a great channel.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We will keep an eye open for it.
@Lukastar1
@Lukastar1 7 жыл бұрын
I'm in a college prep high school (junior) and I really liked your conclusion on Luigi Cadorna! conclusions are kind of tricky or rushed for me in historical papers and your reiteration was a great example for me to build off of. anyways I can't thank all you guys enough for making this channel!
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 7 жыл бұрын
Luke Stoerger My conclusion: He is inadequate to be a general and shouldn't be assigned when he has no beforehand experience in actual tactics and warfare. Fails to understand the bigger picture of tactics and is unable to learn from a previous lost battle (like 12 battles on the Isonzo). Idk about you, but he sure is terrible, but sure is great for memes in the comment section! :)
@Lukastar1
@Lukastar1 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! the memes are pretty good and i honestly find history memes funny. lol
@sergeantarchdornan1085
@sergeantarchdornan1085 2 жыл бұрын
Cadorna after witnessing the Italian fail to capture the isonzo river for the *11th* battle: ONE'S MORE, WITH FEELING
@cinder544
@cinder544 Жыл бұрын
Cadorna understood that high moral among the troop's was very important, then instituted disciplinary beating (and executions) to get it.
@jeffreywong33
@jeffreywong33 8 ай бұрын
luigi Cardona is like the officers in the game Isonzo that only stay back and blow his whistles while everyone are dying around him
@emw1994
@emw1994 7 жыл бұрын
Great presentario.! It would be cool if you guys did one of these on Ernest Hemingway. He served on the Italian front and so did a few of his characters, so it would be an interesting companian to this one.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
he will get his episode.
@mikeface1
@mikeface1 Жыл бұрын
It’s so amazing that most of The Entente was run by relics. Cadorna and especially Britain’s Douglas Haig. Man I love this channel WWI just amazes me.
@antongirdeux4148
@antongirdeux4148 5 жыл бұрын
+The Great War Could you make a summarizing video of Armando Diaz? What was the tactics he used, and what was the difference between him and Luigi Cadorna as a supreme commander of the Italian Army?
@hoegild1
@hoegild1 7 жыл бұрын
amazing how you can keep the high quality of this channel week after week!! Could you please explain, how Denmark stayed neutral?
@j.gczaricit9446
@j.gczaricit9446 7 жыл бұрын
wow this episode is really good keep up the good work.Also can you please talk about any new zealanders doing stuff in the war.
@butchmaidment
@butchmaidment 7 жыл бұрын
Would be really interesting to see you do one of these videos on Adrian Carton de Wiart. His story is fascinating: loved the war; multiple potentially fatal wounds; eye patch; bit off his own fingers; one of the ultimate British soldiers. His story ought to be more widely known.
@sammackinnon5122
@sammackinnon5122 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy, I love your show! I was just wondering if you would do a ww2 version when the time came. I know it takes a lot of time and money, but I just love your show so much! :)
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
m.reddit.com/r/TheGreatWarChannel/comments/4ksvy2/will_you_guys_ever_do_a_ww2_channel_our_official/?compact=true
@alexsitaras6508
@alexsitaras6508 7 жыл бұрын
when ever i hear cadorna i can't help but want to face palm
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
4:33 It would be translated as "frontal strikes and tactical mastery".
@jaybirdzz
@jaybirdzz 6 жыл бұрын
I have considered the comments made in response to my earlier comment. I specifically said that the troops commanded by A. Diaz in 1917-1918 accomplished much. Diaz waited until he was certain of victory in the battle of V.V., but can a WW1 General be criticized for this? While the condition of the Astro-Hungarian army in 11-18 was bad, this was not the case in 6-18. The 2nd battle of the Piave river was fought during June, and was viewed as an attempt to drive Italy from the war. The Italian troops held despite the fact that part of the Astro-Hungarian army was commanded by S. Boroevic-The Lion of The Isonzo. While Diaz might be denied credit for the victory at V.V. by some, who site the condition of the Astro-Hungarian army, he cannot be denied credit for the victory at the Piave river.
@TomSmith-li5se
@TomSmith-li5se 4 жыл бұрын
He was one of the best generals of ww1 no doubt about it.
@Iterman
@Iterman 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Indiana "Indy" Neidell, I hope I got it right. And thank you for a very interesting series of talks.
@darrenrenna
@darrenrenna 7 жыл бұрын
Good video--I have long wondered what Cadorna's background was and what pedigree or past accomplishment kept him in command so long after such a poor performance.
@onemileperhour
@onemileperhour 7 жыл бұрын
Hello The Great War crew. I have a question about letters that officers and soldiers wrote. You often say, "so-and-so wrote such-and-such to 'x' family member," and I wonder how such a personal note got in the hands of historians. Do members of the writer's family donate the letters? Maybe the various powers have protocols for recording all messages sent by their armies? Thanks, and keep up the great production. I really like the high-quality animated maps that have been showing up lately.
@ilMaori
@ilMaori 7 жыл бұрын
il macellaio dell'Isonzo...
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Maybe this channel should've done a special on Diaz the man who replaced Cadorna. I've actually heard some great things about that guy.
@danielemilazzo84
@danielemilazzo84 7 жыл бұрын
OMG CADORNA - grabbing popcorn and watching eagerly!
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 7 жыл бұрын
General Cadorna was actually an Austrian general who was fighting on the wrong side. He was holding the map upside-down.
@arturocevallossoto5203
@arturocevallossoto5203 7 жыл бұрын
While I was living in Verona my flat was just next to the Adige river in San Zeno. If you walked downriver you would find Castelvecchio and it's bridge. Some streets later you would find yourself next to "Ponte della Vittoria", which will take you from the main part of the Old City to the old Austrian arsenal. Just coming out of this bridge you would find yourself with our good old friend Luigi Cadorna in his own little square: "Piazzale Cadorna".
@vanguard5008
@vanguard5008 2 жыл бұрын
So much for the criticism of General Luigi Cadorna but his son General Raffaele Cadorna Jr. of the Italian resistance against German occupying forces was awarded LEGION OF MERIT during World War 2 and also become Senator.
@shaihahn3160
@shaihahn3160 7 жыл бұрын
Indy keep up the good work
@EdVarkarion
@EdVarkarion 6 жыл бұрын
"it's a nice way of saying I am ugly" for all of Cadorna's faults at least he had a sense of humor.
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
General Cadorna... the real live version of general Melchett from "Blackadder goes forth".
@NosyFella
@NosyFella 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this has been asked before, but when it is all over will you be doing anything on the economic reconstruction of Europe and the Peace Conference/Versailles?
@tommyboy1509
@tommyboy1509 7 жыл бұрын
can you do one of these for Mata Hari please?
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
We already did.
@tommyboy1509
@tommyboy1509 7 жыл бұрын
The Great War Okay thanks! What about Edith Cavill?
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 жыл бұрын
+Tommyboy 150 she has an episode too
@tommyboy1509
@tommyboy1509 7 жыл бұрын
The Great War Okay, I've checked and maybe you could do Vladimir Lenin
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 7 жыл бұрын
twat
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