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Luke got his facts wrong! Hashim and Dawud Vs Arul Speaker's corner Hyde park

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Sam Dawah

Sam Dawah

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@akhmalkhalil250
@akhmalkhalil250 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Arul for giving me a reason to laugh on my monday morning. I need that.
@Just_logic
@Just_logic 4 жыл бұрын
This Dawud guy is very good. His tone is very objective. More people like him is needed.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
Arul needs to sometimes acknowledge he doesnt know and will like to do research on it.
@Kashif-kq3vg
@Kashif-kq3vg 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic advice. I hope Arul takes it
@ziziazham5370
@ziziazham5370 4 жыл бұрын
Pity arul... Action like expert but ZERO knowledge... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ahmadamiruddinmohd3102
@ahmadamiruddinmohd3102 4 жыл бұрын
Christian like arul is prefer anti biblical teaching and love to oppose his so holy bookS
@TakeQQQ
@TakeQQQ 4 жыл бұрын
Arul gets destroyed once again.
@moink789
@moink789 4 жыл бұрын
Every week he gets dismantle nothing new
@TakeQQQ
@TakeQQQ 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Kish Okay i see. So is there historical evidence that Paul the self proclaimed apostle, the bountyhunter that became the founder of Christianity, the man from the underworld saw Jesus trough a vision and became blind and weak for 3 days. Is there any historical evidence of this?
@TakeQQQ
@TakeQQQ 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Kish So where is the historical evidence? Quoting from a corrupt book is not historical proof. You know that right? Paul had witnesses? LMAO! First of all, noone knows who these people were. Second, not one of them saw Jesus the way Paul did. And most important, Paul is writing his own testimony that he changed up to 3 times. Anyone who believes this as historical proof has no brains at all.
@TakeQQQ
@TakeQQQ 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr KishPaul was Satan in flesh. The Antichrist that corrupted the gospel of Yeshua. " JESUS said to them " I SAW SATAN FALL, LIKE LIGHTNING, FROM HEAVEN" (Luke 10:18) " As SAUL journeyed he came near Damascus and suddenly A LIGHT FROM HEAVEN (LIGHTNING) shone around him and he fell to the ground" (Acts 9:3,4) In 1 Corinthians 15:1 Paul says that he was not giving them anything but what “he preached.” He explained this even further in the second book (or letter) to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11:17). It reads - “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.” He's telling you plain and simple he was speaking of himself and not from or of the Lord!" Paul cursed Jesus and His disciples Paul claimed he himself was the son of God Paul Supported and demanded Adherence to Iniquity (Discrimination), Jesus said to not let it be found among us! Who's lying? Jesus: "DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH YOUR FATHER; for ONE IS YOUR FATHER, HE who is in heaven" (Matthew 23:9) The devil 'PAUL' BLASPEMOUSLY BOASTED "For I BECAME YOUR FATHER" (1 Corinthians 4:15)
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Kish, the account in luke contradicts the account in Mathew.. So you don't need historical evidence, just the contradiction between the accounts means Atleast 1 of them is false..
@786ghostface
@786ghostface 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way Arul talks .... he actually believes the shit he’s shovelling 😂😂😂
@thedawahacademy5508
@thedawahacademy5508 4 жыл бұрын
Arul: If you got detail X wrong in Luke's census narrative, then you have no knowledge of the entire narrative - or the gospels, or Christianity... Powerful, powerful logic. The sad twist was that Dawud was correct.
@rabborabbi1276
@rabborabbi1276 4 жыл бұрын
Shamsi destroyed this fool several times😂
@rabborabbi1276
@rabborabbi1276 4 жыл бұрын
martin hunter ok thanks but I have eyes and ears to see who gets shredded 😂😂😂
@rabborabbi1276
@rabborabbi1276 4 жыл бұрын
martin hunter I think I misunderstood you😂😂😂 are you Muslim or Christian
@rabborabbi1276
@rabborabbi1276 4 жыл бұрын
martin hunter sorry I misunderstood you 😂
@hassaniica6677
@hassaniica6677 4 жыл бұрын
This irony of the talk is that Dawud is knowledgeable he acts humble and Arul is so ignorant that he acts arrogant
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 4 жыл бұрын
Luke says Joseph lived in nazareth travelled from nazareth to bethleham then back nazareth. Mathew says Joseph lived in bethleham where jesus was born, he fled to Egypt, then he moved to nazareth as bethleham is too dangerous.. So in luke jospeth was originally from nazareth he only visited bethleham during the birth in Mathew he was from bethleham and only went to nazareth after jesus birth.. So it's a complete contradiction.
@khairulzaj4855
@khairulzaj4855 4 жыл бұрын
You'll christians sure feel deep deep disappointed with this arul as your missionaries..sure..his academic knowledge level is no where..just acting like smart person
@reggaetonero0407
@reggaetonero0407 4 жыл бұрын
Arul sounds like phonejacker! He needs some prowidings! 😂😂
@RedGorillaLFC
@RedGorillaLFC 4 жыл бұрын
El subestimado internet relationship prowidings...😂🤣
@AyubKhan-md4km
@AyubKhan-md4km 4 жыл бұрын
The sensus that Arul says happened in the Roman Empire, has no mention in any Roman history.... that's why it's fictional! Now how dumb can one be about not getting why it's fictitious
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын
You might want to check that. There are historical accounts written by the Governor of the day. "A surviving papyrus document from the Roman province of Egypt in AD104 illustrates a census situation in the time of Trajan analogous to the census of Quirinius. The papyrus contains a command in Greek from the Prefect Gaius Vibius Maximus for all those in his area of authority to return to their own homes for the purposes of a census (apogaphēs).[7][8] Gaius Vibius Maximus (AD 104) uses the same word apographa that the Gospel of Luke (c. AD 90) does, while Josephus (AD 98) uses the term apotimesis. Potentially this refers to two distinct parts of a census: first the assessment, and then the payment of taxes.[9]" Ref: Mitchell, T.C. The Bible in the British Museum; Interpreting the Evidence. London- British Museum Press, 1988. [1] ^ Hans Schwarz. 1998. Christology. William Eerdman Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, MI, p79 Also there are multiple other historical references.
@arfakhattak1015
@arfakhattak1015 4 жыл бұрын
Here We Are he meant outside of the bible and Christian writers there is no evidence that the Romans conducted such census. Even the reference you quoted is from the bible so it doesn’t count.
@mohaed96
@mohaed96 4 жыл бұрын
Arfa Khattak i think Christians have a tough time understanding that the bible is not historically accurate or can be used as historical evidence. There also seems to be a comprehension issue regarding this specific topic...
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын
@@arfakhattak1015 The diary of Ceaser Augustus called the Res Gestea Divi Avgvsti ( The Deeds of Augustus) shows that census were taken. This is not The Bible or a Christian scholar but the ACTUAL writings of Augustus.
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын
@@mohaed96 If you look into Archeology you will find it very much matches the Bible. Names, places, cities, people's. Very fascinating subject.
@samirahsamir6930
@samirahsamir6930 4 жыл бұрын
Look their Well behave and how they listening without showing arrogant bro Dawuud and bro Hashim May Allah bless them and protect them from evil eyes
@RashidpakAlb2
@RashidpakAlb2 3 жыл бұрын
JazakAllah khair brothers Hashim and Dawud.
@gilgameshlfx7006
@gilgameshlfx7006 4 жыл бұрын
You cannot explain things in long sentences. Arun will forgot about it. You need short, straight to the point. One. By. One. Like when you're talking to a kid who's been throwing tantrum around the house. Arun doesn't understand anything longer than 20 words.
@redlightspellsdanger7177
@redlightspellsdanger7177 4 жыл бұрын
Arul: a work of fiction
@19A261
@19A261 4 жыл бұрын
Brother Dauwd dismantled him from early on.
@mannypenny7731
@mannypenny7731 4 жыл бұрын
Brother Dawud please be little tough on them. These Christian missionaries are not honest
@ik1219
@ik1219 3 жыл бұрын
Arul is the gift that keeps on giving...
@sadikali8121
@sadikali8121 4 жыл бұрын
Dawud gave historical evident from Luke and Mathew which is not acurate. I think Arul is pretending not to understand the evident given by Dawud
@alwiegamiet5472
@alwiegamiet5472 3 жыл бұрын
Arul argues for the sake of arguing.... SIGH!!!!
@cjaycjay7226
@cjaycjay7226 Жыл бұрын
This guy is just a cup of tea 🍵 😂😂 ignorance is the enemy of mankind alhamdulilah I'm muslim
@khadiramed8262
@khadiramed8262 4 жыл бұрын
Arul please if you dt have knowledge dont fool yourself ... no one's know anything
@cheicknacamara651
@cheicknacamara651 4 жыл бұрын
Cross is abomination in the Bible but to Christians it’s the most important thing. As Ahamed deedat used to say unfortunately the scriptures are not read in Christianity
@BlurredFiction
@BlurredFiction 4 жыл бұрын
People have migrated mostly in history for financial gains and better living conditions. The obvious example of Arul migrating from India to the United Kingdom. Now why Luke's census is fictitious: (1) nothing is known in history of a general census during the time of Augustus; (2) in a Roman census Joseph would have not had to travel to Bethlehem but would have registered in the principle town of his residence, and Mary would not have had to register at all; (3) no Roman census would have been made in Palestine during Herod’s reign; (4) Josephus records nothing of a Roman census in Palestine in the time of Herod - rather the census of A.D. 6-7 was something new among the Jews; and (5) a census held under Quirinius could not have occurred during Herod’s reign for Quirinius was not governor until after Herod’s death
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 4 жыл бұрын
Look up Res Gestae Divi Avgvsti it is the diary of Caeser Augustus. Records the census
@BlurredFiction
@BlurredFiction 4 жыл бұрын
@@hereweare9096 Links please
@thegrimcrimson
@thegrimcrimson 4 жыл бұрын
Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John, and led them up on a high mountain apart by themselves; and He was transfigured before them. 3 His clothes became shining, exceedingly white, like snow, such as no launderer on earth can whiten them. 4 And Elijah appeared to them with Moses, and they were talking with Jesus. 5 Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; and let us make three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah”- 6 because he did not know what to say, for they were greatly afraid.
@-algerino-1205
@-algerino-1205 4 жыл бұрын
I should be ashamed if I was this Arul
@sani-thedutchserbianmuslim8708
@sani-thedutchserbianmuslim8708 4 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the grey haired man?? wasn't he the one 3 or 4 weeks ago claiming to come with proof of Hadith? when speaking to Mohammed & Hashim or Mohammed & Mansur?? idk anymore. But he said he would return the next week with proof and untill now I haven't seen him return with the discussion?
@Assyaroni
@Assyaroni 4 жыл бұрын
It's Ray, brother. He did that all the time, he just wants to win the argument by saying he has proofs..which is a lie.
@Asad-2166
@Asad-2166 4 жыл бұрын
That white dude looks baffled
@thegrimcrimson
@thegrimcrimson 4 жыл бұрын
The bible states Jesus came back 3 times. In addition he met prophet moses and elijah on earth too lmao
@chozon8647
@chozon8647 4 жыл бұрын
Talking to non genuine people is annoying and a waste of time. This is what i call.. “Listening to talk vs listening to respond”....
@derickfester2111
@derickfester2111 4 жыл бұрын
Hashim doesn't know the definition of naked🤣🤣🤣 and he wants to School Arul...
@joekapakful
@joekapakful 4 жыл бұрын
How many evidence do you want arul???😂😂😂
@funfactory2888
@funfactory2888 4 жыл бұрын
Dawud is well equipped...feel sorry for paid missionaries ..lolz
@sadikali8121
@sadikali8121 4 жыл бұрын
Arul is going around the bush or merry go round. This guy is just trying to know the exact occurrence of Jesus death and resurrection. From the begining to the end step by step so that historical account of Jesus can be achieved.
@krasavietz7807
@krasavietz7807 4 жыл бұрын
Arul comes from an area in Asia where they are usually a bunch of dreamers & a bit bypolar.
@noyonbhai1440
@noyonbhai1440 4 жыл бұрын
This pagan Arul wants to talk the death of Jesus, but not life of Jesus. Becoz, unless they found Jesus dead, they wouldn’t have the ' Tax free salvation'.
@IkanKeringKerat2
@IkanKeringKerat2 4 жыл бұрын
Arul the joker😂😂😂😂
@feh_milky175
@feh_milky175 4 жыл бұрын
if their preacher was so confusing like this.. imagine what happen to the people they preach to.. SubhanAllah..
@mqandil
@mqandil 4 жыл бұрын
Great debate, but why Arul is always angry and shouting? Anger is not going to win him debates nor it would fix various inconsistencies in the gospels. This anger is counter to Christian teachings and gives a bad name to the religion. I ask God to guide him and make him a better Christian.
@redlightspellsdanger7177
@redlightspellsdanger7177 4 жыл бұрын
Where would Arul be deported to complete a census? 🙃
@killakristian7084
@killakristian7084 4 жыл бұрын
The local mental institution.
@redlightspellsdanger7177
@redlightspellsdanger7177 4 жыл бұрын
killa kristian one flew over the cuckoo’s nest 🤪
@killakristian7084
@killakristian7084 4 жыл бұрын
@@redlightspellsdanger7177 "put it in the basket cheif"
@SuperFrazil
@SuperFrazil 4 жыл бұрын
Arul will never agree ,that'll go against his masters will . All are deceivers one worst than the other .what injustice they doing to Jesus.
@Robot588
@Robot588 4 жыл бұрын
All four gospels are contradictory
@winkfish
@winkfish 4 жыл бұрын
"Arul ya mizag al biryani" -The legend Uncle Jamal 😂👍😂
@abdullaharakani9923
@abdullaharakani9923 4 жыл бұрын
Indian Christian missionary Arul doesn't listen to other debater and give different lecture when answers out of context and always avoid Hashim coz of knowledge he have on Christianity.
@sanaaaaaan1675
@sanaaaaaan1675 4 жыл бұрын
Arul eyes say he doesn't want to respond to br Hashim....then he has to explain trinity again
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, there was a census. Unfortunately, u cant remove the bible from any discussion on it. Historical analysis doesnt remove any line of evidence.
@sofianee3580
@sofianee3580 4 жыл бұрын
An exposé of bad faith...
@elche752
@elche752 4 жыл бұрын
whenever Arul speaks i just forward ,he never says anything educational, only bla bla
@cheicknacamara651
@cheicknacamara651 4 жыл бұрын
The guy doesn’t even know the difference between historians vs theologians . He is a joke , and he is mixing up the gospels
@kamgunner5920
@kamgunner5920 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the lunacy! The lost soul said christians wear the cross which i agree, but why on earth would they glorify and worship the tool used to kill their " lord and saviour"? It defies any logic, respect or reasoning.
@kamgunner5920
@kamgunner5920 4 жыл бұрын
@@daviddunno7688 lol. So whats the cross all about? As i said the cross is what jesus was nailed to and died on according to christians. The logic is lost and concept is evil and wicked. Sorry.
@WolfBenjamite
@WolfBenjamite 4 жыл бұрын
THE PROBLEM woth Muslims and Christians is that neither do not know the definition of the word GOD ACCORDING TO THE Hebrew / Greek bible and that is why they always argue on wether Christ is God. I am amazed after years of going to SC and listening to then this debate is still happening. STUDY MORE eithout conformig to dictionary definitions.
@teflondon613lilbih3
@teflondon613lilbih3 4 жыл бұрын
WTF he just was willing to bet then confirms it lol
@ZakirHussain-v3c
@ZakirHussain-v3c 12 күн бұрын
I don't know why arul start shifting him self when hashim speak. Arul can only bully laman
@ZakirHussain-v3c
@ZakirHussain-v3c 12 күн бұрын
Arul getting lesson Arul full of falsehood
@qutub-uddinkhan3840
@qutub-uddinkhan3840 4 жыл бұрын
salam hasim samsh it all supercede them all. I am very happy to see your vedio. Arul a cow worshiper son really dint know what he did. he never became whiteman or else except hinduism. he better to follow hinduism rather than christian. his great grandfather are tortured to convert to christian by british missionary
@szparacha7242
@szparacha7242 4 жыл бұрын
Arul wants to talk about "Cross of Jesus" first without talking about Jesus... the cross of Jesus without Jesus seriously... where from their logics comes.. ????
@karlaiden6474
@karlaiden6474 3 жыл бұрын
ARUL AND SNAKES AR THE SAME ENTITY....HIHIHIHIHI
@zio__e
@zio__e 4 жыл бұрын
You mixed up two gospels and make up your own gospel 😂
@ibramsha2223
@ibramsha2223 4 жыл бұрын
Muslim teaching Arul, Christian history, shameful.
@syedahmedshaheer117
@syedahmedshaheer117 4 жыл бұрын
Arul is extremely frustrating to speak to. want to see what happened after this the discussion seems interesting.
@mikerevs34
@mikerevs34 4 жыл бұрын
Arul trapped in lukes rubbish account which disagrees with Matthews rubbish account of the birth of Jesus.
@stephenchirayil9539
@stephenchirayil9539 4 жыл бұрын
If the same criteria applied to quran, islam will be in the hell. Because there is historical evidence for the drama of angel came to mohammed....
@Rao0786
@Rao0786 4 жыл бұрын
Arul is not helping christian at all. he know he is beaten in the debate but boy he keeps going.
@moirunnessa9513
@moirunnessa9513 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t listen to this aruls accent is so Annoying.... even his body language n facial expressions
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
The great classical archaeologist Sir William Ramsay, said that Luke was a “first-rate historian…”. Not sure of Dawuds qualifications but none come higher esteemed than Sir William Ramsay.
@Kashif-kq3vg
@Kashif-kq3vg 4 жыл бұрын
Really? Did Sir William Ramsay even know Luke's surname?
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kashif-kq3vg I am sure Sir Ramsey has a public e mail. Be kind to ask him. Tell me the surname of one historian from the first century?? LOL!
@Kashif-kq3vg
@Kashif-kq3vg 4 жыл бұрын
@@deficrypto1234 You do know he's dead right? There are many historians from the 1st century - Asconius Pedianus, Ban Gu, Quintus Rufus... The list goes on. Surely someone of such a popular profile and someone who is deemed a 'first-rate historian' - we would at least to know his biography such as if he is honest, reliable, had a good memory. Or if not all of that, at least his full name...
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kashif-kq3vg A historians biography doesn't make him a good or bad historian. I know ur scared to look at his work. I challenge u. Look at his work with an open mind and see if it is not historically accurate. Talking about dead men and surnames! LOL! U r not making any points at all. What is ur point? None of what u described makes one a good or bad historian. What is ur point?
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kashif-kq3vg I see the ducking and diving. I will not be distracted from my initial point. Do u disagree with Sir Ramsay? If yes, why? What qualifications do u have that will make u dispute an esteemed historian? Stay focused on this point please. I await ur answer.
@mamamaria8989
@mamamaria8989 4 жыл бұрын
Muslims believe that Jesus did not die, but in their on Quran contradicts on chapter 19, verse 33 that he will raise again?! It means he died, lolol.
@rabborabbi1276
@rabborabbi1276 4 жыл бұрын
From holy cows to Trinity😂😂😂 Downgrade
@ALC6501
@ALC6501 4 жыл бұрын
From frying pan to fire lol
@stephenchirayil9539
@stephenchirayil9539 4 жыл бұрын
Dawa team cant stand in front of arul because of his knowledge...
@BornVex.
@BornVex. 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ismahastiness
@ismahastiness 4 жыл бұрын
totally destroyed by logic, arul need go back to school again lol
@aw6029
@aw6029 4 жыл бұрын
Isma Hastiness or india. 😆
@rumzih9179
@rumzih9179 4 жыл бұрын
So then I guess Muhammad was historian. I mean Muhammad(PBUH) denied that Jesus was murdered, so can we now call Muhammad(PBUH) a historian.
@ibramsha2223
@ibramsha2223 4 жыл бұрын
Look at Arul's angry face when expose. Hyde park clown.
@ZakirHussain-v3c
@ZakirHussain-v3c 12 күн бұрын
Christian own heavyweight scolars dismantle false belief . Who is arul nothing
@filipgrozdanovski7988
@filipgrozdanovski7988 4 жыл бұрын
Its pointless to speak whit this kind of human like Arul.,He knows that its a lie,and still he is lieing about..,Its the money that he is taking from curch to back up this lies,thats hes job,not to tell or spread tha truth..,
@HassanDibani
@HassanDibani 4 жыл бұрын
This guy needs to learn do some humility.
@sarahqamar6377
@sarahqamar6377 4 жыл бұрын
Who dared to kill the God....#1 whoever gets killed is a God..#2 Facts gotten twing!
@fahadhanif166
@fahadhanif166 4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the common sense? I mean have ever common sense and intellect said hello to Christians? 😭😂😖🤦‍♂️
@sanaaaaaan1675
@sanaaaaaan1675 4 жыл бұрын
That guy schooled arul
@maxk8396
@maxk8396 4 жыл бұрын
Arul is terrible
@SuperKauser
@SuperKauser Жыл бұрын
arul is a joke...
@cheicknacamara651
@cheicknacamara651 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s dat guy screaming in the background?
@mohamedramzan3955
@mohamedramzan3955 4 жыл бұрын
Bro do we have p2 for this debate
@mohdfarhanmansor
@mohdfarhanmansor 3 жыл бұрын
This old man with black jacket always lying and makeup his own verse when it’s suit him
@ninoplg81
@ninoplg81 4 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah
@baldesayffoullah2315
@baldesayffoullah2315 4 жыл бұрын
Why arul always reapeat what the other guy' says.. arul be like...you say...you mean....your point is ....you know....always repeating your self...what are you doing arul
@mukhtarbaba1438
@mukhtarbaba1438 Жыл бұрын
we know that Mathew is a liar
@serpan_lvlog2896
@serpan_lvlog2896 4 жыл бұрын
That christian like Arul yaweyuhakpuiikk are sick,stop dreaming..nobody die for your sins..be a responsible human,if you sins,responsible it yourself
@husnilmddamin475
@husnilmddamin475 4 жыл бұрын
What if Jesus executed by electric chair, will all christian make it that electric chair as a simbol like cross u have now? Jesus pbuh is a human n creation of God juz like us but he's more special bcoz God choose him to be a the one of Messenger of God like Moses pbuh, Abraham pbuh, Muhammad SAW pbuh, etc. And the important thing is he never ever claim he is God.
@moradodat1599
@moradodat1599 4 жыл бұрын
Christmas want to convince us that they killed the God Praise be to Allah almighty from what they say
@RashidpakAlb2
@RashidpakAlb2 3 жыл бұрын
Arun speaks nonsense.
@Slim-py1pp
@Slim-py1pp 3 жыл бұрын
Shamshee
@thegrimcrimson
@thegrimcrimson 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus is on his 4th return in Christianity lmaooo but jesus is only to come twice. How can this be?
@thegrimcrimson
@thegrimcrimson 4 жыл бұрын
@JOHN EDWARD Proves Christianity is falsehood corruption.
@thegrimcrimson
@thegrimcrimson 4 жыл бұрын
@JOHN EDWARD Jesus banned sectarianism in Christianity. Jesus Forbids Sectarianism 38 Now John answered Him, saying, “Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. 40 For he who is not against [g]us is on [h]our side. 41 For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
Hashim, Luke was a disciple not an apostle.
@Kashif-kq3vg
@Kashif-kq3vg 4 жыл бұрын
According to C. Aherne and general scholarly consensus, Luke was indeed a disciple...a disciple of Paul, not Jesus.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kashif-kq3vg Well C Aherne and your 'scholarly consensus' is wrong. Luke never claimed to be Pauls disciple and Paul didnt have any disciples. Where did Luke describe himself as Pauls disciple and where did Paul say Luke was his disciple?
@Kashif-kq3vg
@Kashif-kq3vg 4 жыл бұрын
@@deficrypto1234 These are the words from the likes of Epiphanius the 4th Century bishop, biblical scholars such as Hackett and Bart Koet. But it seems you now want to throw all these under the bus with no evidence. The reason they say this (as you seem to be unaware) is because the strongest evidence is in the bible, Luke repeatedly using the word 'we' in describing his Pauline missions in the Acts of Apostles suggesting he was personally there excluding himself from being an eyewitness to Jesus. There is no shame in being wrong Adegbenga, everyone's on a journey to learn.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kashif-kq3vg I suggest u review the usage of 'we' in the English language. 'We' is just a plural for more than one person. Also, at no point did Luke say he was an eyewitness. So, I agree with u regarding the point on the eyewitness. May I respectfully ask have u read the bible or the book of Acts or Luke? Luke clearly identifies he was speaking to eyewitnesses, not being an eyewitness. U haven't presented any evidence from the scholars why Luke is Pauls disciple and not Jesus. Its not my priority today as that is another conversation. Once again, I wont be side tracked into side conversations. Do you doubt Sir Ramsays credentials or not? Have u examined them? If u disagree with him, why? Have u also read the book of Luke to see why Sir Ramsay called him a first rate historian? Kindly respond to my questions. I patiently await.
@Kashif-kq3vg
@Kashif-kq3vg 4 жыл бұрын
@@deficrypto1234 I have mentioned on the other thread, Sir William Ramsay had bias on this matter. Read it thanks
@pyansufyan5987
@pyansufyan5987 4 жыл бұрын
Arul are mix hinduism christian= chrishinduism
@khadiramed8262
@khadiramed8262 4 жыл бұрын
Arul sorry you just talking I think you donk have any knowledge on the census arul ....if I were to you I told them sorry I don't have much knowledge...I will come back when I check it up..KHADIRA_MED Lyon
@karlaiden6474
@karlaiden6474 4 жыл бұрын
Black christian deceiver. ....great
@samiradcliffe2017
@samiradcliffe2017 4 жыл бұрын
A cross is very important lmfao look at his face u can clearly see sytaan sytaan sytaan lol
@welcome2dsocial522
@welcome2dsocial522 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been a nicer debate if brother Hashim didn't keep interrupting brother Dawood and Arul.
@killakristian7084
@killakristian7084 4 жыл бұрын
Xtians would never do that in the park.. Right?
@sarahqamar6377
@sarahqamar6377 4 жыл бұрын
Confused indians!
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