I don't blame Anakin for his fall to the darkside. I blame the Jedi Order. The Force wills everything. Qui Gon Jinn finding a slave boy on Tatooine with a higher midichlorian count than Master Yoda WAS NOT a coincidence. First, the Order didn't want to train him. Anakin didn't forget about that even though he was trained because it was Master Qui Gon's dying wish. The Jedi Order NEVER trusted Anakin Skywalker fully. They kept him at arms length instead of bringing him close. The lack of trust ALWAYS bothered Anakin. Despite that, he stayed the course and continued his training. Losing Ahsoka was a huge blow for Anakin. He lost his Padawan because of the Jedi Order was so quick to turn on one of their own. Ahsoka never gave the Order a reason not to trust and believe her. If the Order meditated on the matter and put more into the actual investigation then they would have learned the truth way before her case even made it to trial. Anakin continued his training and remained loyal to the Order even after those events took place. I do understand that falling in love goes against the Jedi Code, but unfortunately, you can't control it. Falling in love with someone just happens whether you want it to or not. I honestly believe that Anakin fell in love with Padme the first time he saw her. He was just a slave then who didn't even know what he was to become. Anakin loved her with all of his being. When he started having the same dreams about her like he did with his mother right before she died. This shook him to his core and would stop at NOTHING to try and prevent her death from happening. Darth Sidious could read Anakins mind and made him an offer he couldn't refuse. When he found out that his long-time friend was, in fact, a Sith Lord, this created so much confusion, confliction, and disbelief in Anakin. When he told Master Windu what he had discovered, he told Anakin "If what you told me is true, then you will have gained my trust, but for now, stay here." This just cemented what Anakin always suspected... that the Jedi Order never trusted him. So, having the feeling of never being trusted just being vindicated and potentially losing the only way to save his true love? Like I said, I don't blame Anakin. I blame the Jedi Order.

I don’t blame Obi wan mindset of separating Anakin and Vader as if they are different people but let’s face the fact Vader is Anakin at his weakest and his worst.

"You don't know the power of the dark side" So true for Obi-Wan

"He was not a weak being who feared abandonment" Obi-Wan just proved that he didn't know Anakin with this one sentence.

Excellent storytelling. “Luke, you’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.” “The truth is often what we make of it; you heard what you wanted to hear, believed what you wanted to believe.” A crazy old wizard that lived in the desert.

Obiwan was probably ashamed of himself for how Anakin was seduced by the Darkside and changed into Vader. He probably partly blamed himself, even if he wasn’t directly responsible. What is always going to fascinate me is how he charged Luke with the responsibility to face Vader, despite Luke saying he could not kill his own father. Vader and the emperor also challenged Luke to take a life. His refusal to listen to any of them and his determination not to kill Vader is deep in his legacy; that’s how he becomes a Jedi.

I argue Anakin was a victim of unfortunate circumstances he was born a slave and he wasn’t even allowed to marry the girl he loved and just before he married her he lost part of his arm in the previous battle and before he wasn’t fast enough to save his mother and during the clone wars his padawan was accused of of crime she didn’t commit and after she was cleared she left the Jedi order That’s 5 things he couldn’t control

It will never cease to amaze me, this trope of "killing is wrong, but being okay with someone dying in excruciating agony is no problemo"

"Dealing him a killing blow might have been the merciful thing ... but I had no mercy for Vader ..." - Kenobi, a "true jedi" Suddenly Hayden's line "from my point of view the Jedi are evil" doesn't sound so dimwitted.

I don’t know how Obi-Wan could have misunderstood Anakin this badly. He seemed to be one of the Jedi who understood him a little better than the others did in other stories. If you ask me, I think Obi-Wan is purposely saying the exact opposite of what Luke’s father actually was because he doesn’t want Luke to sympathize with him. At this point, Obi-Wan doesn’t think Anakin can get out of the Dark Side, so he’s not telling Luke the truth because he knows that, if Luke sympathizes with him, then he will be unable to deliver the finishing blow and save the galaxy. That’s why he says at the end, “Darth Vader and the Emperor must breathe their last."

Gotta' love how Luke tells Obi-Wan, "I'm never coming back to this planet again..."

God........ poor Luke is beginning to realize 😢 Luke had a terrible family history because Anakin fell down the dark path 😢 and realized it wasn't entirely all Vader's fault and he never wanted to join the dark path he did it to save padme in the end he had failed her.

Anakin saved Obi-WAN’s life so many times.

As a combat veteran i can appreciate their reactions they felt authentic, and kinda helps restore my faith in humanity.

This would hit so much harder had Lucas decided to leave in vader screaming help me to obi wan as he slid down the embankment towards the lava.

Literal chills listening to Obi-wan reading his journal entry. Nice touch! Subbed.

“Whatever tomorrow brings I must be ready.” I wouldn’t call cutting himself off from the force, working as a butcher and being afraid of existing as being ready

I wish we could explore Luke more, between Episodes 5 and 6 and after Return of the Jedi

Shadows of the Empire is still canon to me.

I love Vader as a character, particularly the side we see of him that still reaches back to Anakin, whether it was to actually ask for mercy in times of weakness or desperation, or in an effort to confuse or distract the opponents of his who knew Anakin, like Obi-Wan or even Ahsoka. Vader showing Anakin’s blue eyes was a trick of the force I never knew possible and it really started to make me think about the possibility of these two motives for this. I’m sure there’s an in-depth video going into this but even if there’s not I’d love to see one.

Wonderful job, my friend. Your storytelling is exquisite. Big ups!

This would have never happened, if Obi Wan Kenobi joined Count Dooku when he had the chance.

Obi Wan's journal, 1st Page : "Hello There"

Ive only seen your shorts until this video. Good job, very well done.

This was amazing I felt like I was reading straight from both actors it was engaging good stuff 🙏🏻

No matter how many comic books and EU novellas, it's always going to be a big lift to claim Obi-Wan made the right call on Mustafar. He needed to put Anakin down, and didn’t.

Vader had resisted the Dark side for years compared to Dooku. It took more to turn him than others and wasn't even completely gone. Doesn't help that the Jedi Order itself was clouded by the Dark Side.

Obi-Wan leaving Anakin to die dispelled for me the illusion that the Jedi were good guys. I sometimes wonder how the story would have gone had Anakin been able to save his mother's life.

i enjoyed your presentation of the force speaking to Luke

Something I don't hear people really bring up is that Obi-Wan probably wasn't lying to Luke, at least, not consciously. He probably didn't just separate Anakin from Vader as a sort of philosophical statement. He probably did so as a way of coping with what he had done. Disassociation is incredibly common for people who have been through something traumatic or done something that causes trauma. And it doesn't get much more traumatic than being forced to mutilate your best friend and brother of 13 years and then watch him burn alive because of your actions. Yes, Anakin "brought this on [himself]" but people very rarely make that distinction in situations like that. So him separating the two was probably the only way he could live with himself. Because it's easier to accept that you did those things to a completely evil and irredeemable lord of the Sith who massacred your friends and family than your brother who had lost his way.

If Obi Wan had saved Anakin rather then leaving him he could of told Anakin how Padme was pregnant which might of helped bring Anankin back to the light side and prevented Padme’s death too

Liked and subscribed. I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you this. 🥃🥃🥃

One thing that NEVER crossed Obi Wan's mund is that Yoda might be wrong. Whi changed the Jedi rules that had stood for thousands of years, Yoda.

It’s hard for me not to believe that Luke was the chosen one to an extent

I kind of agree with obi wan. Yeah he had a fear of losing people. He was just a strong. Person looking for more power by any means but obi wan should realize the Jedi are not completely blameless in his downfall.

Great narration and vid

Wow! Great video!

To be fair, the distinction of Vader and Anakin was made by the guy himself when he tells Kenobi "I am not your failure...Obi Wan. I killed Anakin Skywlaker". After this Obi Wan proceeds to call Anakin/Vader "Darth", as we know that is a title meaning "Dark Lord of the Sith". There Anakin and Darth Vader became 2 separate entities, and even Luke in Episode 6 tells Darth Vader that he knows that he was Anakin Skywalker once, and after semi accepts that his father was "truly dead". There we see the struggle in Vader, for Luke was the Catalyst for Balance, It was the knowledge of his Children and the fight his Son was carrying into saving him and bring him back to the Light Side. So, it was well enough that Obi Wan had a definite separation of the 2 personalities of the same person and address them as such.

great video ❤

I want to see Shadows Of The Empire return to canon as a live-action movie with a scene like this with flashbacks from the prequel trilogy and The Clone Wars.

Ah. This is how Luke found out about all of the things before the Empire

Great video. There is so much Legends material for Disney to draw from to create awesome content. 😢

Great video

I miss star wars

I never stopped feeling sorry for Anakin. He was born into slavery. And to condense everything, he never stopped being one.

Lukes face on the post thumbnail is like, “You wrong for that Uncle Ben.” Ben Kenobi though, “Nah, nah…he earned that Luke.”

1. Obi-Wan was correct about Anakin. Anakin was a powerful man and abandonment wasn't his fear. He was fine with his mother being worlds away, She had her own life to live but as long as she was safe it was okay. He had similar feelings towards Padme and Ahsoka. Yes, He was sad to see Ahsoka leave the order but he respected her decision and didn't blow a gasket over it. What Anakin feared was irrevocable loss thru the death of those close to him. As Samwise Gamgee once said: Don't go where I can't follow! 2. Obi-Wan was not the most familiar with current medical tech and few would think burning alive without limbs to be survivable. Obi-Wan was ultimately a coward hiding behind the Jedi Code. It would not have been a step towards the dark side to end Anakin's suffering and potential threat. Levitating Anakin onto a platform would leave the possibility of him surviving and killing Jedi but leaving him to burn would be abject cruelty.

Anakin kind of reminds me of Job from the bible don't know if I spelled the name right but In the end he got played by both sides to see were his heart was the most. In the end he lost everything for nothing and suffered so long for a short relief in the end with his son.

I like how Obi-Wan claimed that Anakin and Vader were different people, because he wasn’t entirely wrong. As Anakin, he cares and feels, while Vader is a cold blooded monster. I believe that in a weird way, Anakin and Vader are (boarder line) different personalities.

Keep in mind that this comic was done almost 7 years before the KENOBI show and almost 2-3years before the Rise of Skywalker…so take this interpretation of Obi-wan’s words with a grain of salt because the KENOBI show, the last season of the CLONE WARS show, and even Dave Filoni (head director/writer for REBELS, CLONE WARS, the MANDALORIAN, BOOK OF BOBA FETT, TALES OF THE JEDI, and now even AHSOKA) who has stated in interviews with GEORGE Lucas that Anakin’s fall was ultimately decided the moment he cut Windu’s hand off at the manipulation of Darth Sidious. Obi-wan’s journal doesn’t reflect all of what we see and heard from Obi-wan’s regrets and thoughts in KENOBI, his talk with Ezra about fate and destiny in REBELS, and his feelings of worry for Anakin and his desire to trust Anakin. These are things he shared with Ahsoka in the last season of the CLONE WARS. He truly did love Anakin like a brother and he feels guilty that maybe he didn’t do enough to look out for him. He also knew that Anakin and Padme had a relationship. He never admitted to either of them that he knew because he wanted to let them have their private life. He trusted Padme to be there for Anakin when he couldn’t be and he trusted Ahsoka to have Anakin’s back when he couldn’t. And when he saw the recording of Anakin killing younglings and Padawans and knights at the Jedi Temple - it broke his heart. He admitted to Yoda that he couldn’t bring himself to kill Anakin. He was his brother. But what we have to understand is that Anakin made the choice to follow the DARK SIDE because of his obsession over potentially losing Padme. The costs of the war, the tense relationship he had with the Jedi council, and his views on the republic & Jedi only brought him closer to that point. The war brought Anakin further into the Dark Side and Sidious/Palpatine helped manipulate his emotions and actions to do so.

I think Anakin would have preferred to be mercifully killed. A lot of what drove his hate and rage was being abandoned on Mustafar.

I wonder what would have happened if Obi-Wan saved Anakin instead of leaving him to die. Obi-Wan proved the dark side was not stronger by winning. But by leaving him and giving him a second chance proved to Anikan that Obi-Wan was weak and the dark side was stronger. He needed someone to reach back out to him. But they all pushed him away.

I've never liked the "What I told you is true, from a certain point of view." line that Obi-Wan gives to Luke. I don't blame Obi-Wan for lying to Luke about his father in Epsiode 4, it made sense to do so. What I don't like is that instead of having Obi-Wan own up to his lie in Episode 6, he just continues to make excuses for lying. It's like George Lucas realized he needed to explain Obi-Wan's explanation in Episode 4 and overcomplicated it, when the simplest and best way to explain it was just for Obi-Wan to admit that he lied to protect Luke.

It's actually incredibly hard to believe that obi wan actually thought that way about Anakins fall, he was literally a victim of poor circumstances his entire life until he became Vader. And his first memory that wasn't slavery was the Jedi leaving his mother for dead(more than a good reason to have abandonment issues.) Glad this one stayed legends and not cannon tbh

Anakin had killed the Jedi younglings, so I agree that that Kenobi shouldn’t have left Anakin to die, no, no, no! None of that! Kenobi should have cut off Anakin’s head.

SO NICE!!!!!

Obiwan, 5:18 “yeah, I fucked his ass up”

Yoda was right and Gui Gon was right too. Anakin was the fulcrum on which the dark and light sides of the Force would tip. Gui Gon thought it would tip toward the light if he had trained Anakin. Yoda did not think so. It was Obi Wan who convinced Yoda that he would train Anakin himself with or without the Jedi Council's permission. So the die was cast, Anakin was too pathological, too traumatized by his childhood to have turned to the light side of the Force without careful guidance--one that Gui Gon could provide. Gui Gon would have served as his surrogate father and helped him along. Obi Wan served as his older brother and a rivalry grew between them, something that would not have happened had Gui Gon not died. So, Gui Gon's death tipped the force to the Dark Side with Anakin. Obi Wan had won the battle by killing Darth Maul but Palpatine won the war and in the end, it destroyed the Jedi and the Republic.

It is so crazy when you think about it, that the droid next to him has all the answers he could ever want. R2D2 is full of history being there from the start of it all and never having his memories wiped. It's crazy to think about it. I wonder why R2D2 never gave Luck answers.

It's kind of sad that Anakin, who was a slave his whole life, was saved by his heroes (Jedi), wanted to become a Jedi and by doing so fell to being a "slave" to the Jedi order. Never truly free, always being held down by others and, most importantly, himself. That's just tragic.

If Obi-Wan killed Vader on Mustafa when he had the chance. I honestly don't think it would've changed much in the grand scheme of things. Vader was powerful and a scourge to the galaxy. But by that point the Emperor had already issued order 66 and the Jedi Order was done for. While I don't think he could've found someone as powerful as Vader, Palpatine definitely could've found a replacement.

he left him twice because he couldn't kill him on either occasion..... Anakin was already dead Kenobi was hoping he would live again, even kenobi didn't realise this

You cant blame obi wan here, he did blame himself alot for anakins path although it wasnt entirely of his fault just how the jedi order was set up. Obi wan had just found out anakin to eliminate the order he had been with his entire life. all his friends and many who he considered family and even children adding on to the fact on mustafar when anakin(vader) had just nearly killed padme the person who anakin did this all for. obi wan saw anakin consumed by his power and the dark side and still didnt go down the bank to fully kill anakin he just hoped he would die there burning as he didnt want to be the one to deal the final blow.

im always here 4 the force...

I have the book mentioned, but what is this comic book called?

In the kinobi show they have the line where Vader says “you didn’t kill Anakin, I did” so in that context what ObiWan told Luke was actually just him quoting his father.

If I were Obi Wan in this scenario, I would definitely be grappling with the choice of saving Anakin and just letting him suffer and die for the horrible things he did. Perhaps Obi Wan through all of those years, was trying to lie to himself about why he did what he did, I like to think that he wanted to save Anakin in the end, but the mix of emotions, the concern for Padme, knowing that the emperor would come searching for Vader soon after, and his despise towards what Anakin had become made Obi Wan turn away from his brother. The prequels and originals are why I love the character of Obi Wan (along with the countless side stories and novels involving him) he had gone through so much yet kept his heart in the right place. (We don’t talk about “Kenobi” here lol)

Obi-Wan misunderstanding Anakin isn't too unbelievable (aside from the Rako Hardeen arc) Obi-Wan lives by the Jedi Code and is a Jedi, through and through. Jedi who lived their entire lives as Jedi in the Jedi Order before the Empire, don't understand feelings in the slightest, much less empathy. After watching the Clone Wars, I no longer ask "Why did Anakin turn?" I ask "Why not?"

whats this music? I hear it almost every Star Wars video

IMO Luke would feel more indifferent because in the same breath Anakin DID choke out Padme in front of Obi wan . Did Luke know that ? this story would possible be Irrelevant if that was the case.

Shame Obi wan left out the killing of the younglings , Luke knew Vader was bad but this would have showed just how bad. Just how far the Darkside pulled Vader as warning for Luke .

What is the name of the comic shown in the video?

they should do a force vision flash forward for obi own show about this

Luke got his answers from Ahsoka in Book of Boba Fett. It's why he gave Grogu the ultimatum to choose between the Order and the Mandalorian. After what had happened to his father due to his personal attachments to his mother, Luke was determined to make sure nothing like that ever happened to another Jedi trainee. He took it too far, however, and thought to slay his own nephew when Ben Solo could not let go of his attachments to his mother and his father (and to his uncle most especially). So Luke was going to kill Ben because Ben loved him. How twisted is that? Luke's fear over what happened to his family destroyed his efforts to rebuild the temple.

That journal belongs in a museum

That's not entirely true though. Anakin did have an extremely hard life and because of this he did fear loss a lot. That's why he craved such power to begin with so that he protect those that he cared about from losing them

What a Jedi Master that Obi… So, he battles & lets Vader survive, leaving untold numbers of his surviving Jedi to be killed by said Vader...

Remember the younglings

A thing in star wars i wondered was, how did vader know the name Skywalker on Hoth, only to be told by Palpatine later that hes the son of Skywalker.

Boy the Jedi were soooo out of touch of reality. Ben really thought that Anakin didnt come from an unfortunate circumstances??? Jesus.

The moral, Luke is that I chose a half measure. I didn't do what I knew was necessary and he murdered billions more. No half measures from you.

The obiwon voice over is top tier

The really interesting question is did he recover his Lightsaber before he left the Deathstar.

After watch this i want see what if moment. That after fight between obi wan and anakin obi wan decided to bring anakin to padme with wounded situations and don't give up anakin to bring back to light side...

Why didn't he just look at R2-D2 on his memory card!🤔🤔

Is that actually James Arnold Taylor reading Obi-Wan's journal, or an AI recreation?

Luke had phantom hand pains? You would think that wouldn’t happen since he actually could feel with his robot hand.

I dunno. I've still never been convinced that Anakin had enough to cause a fall. It all seems contrived and forced (pun intended). Yes his mother being tortured and killed while he was off having a grand time training. His failing relationship with Padme was his own doing though. His insecurities caused him to think and say things Padme didn't need to or shouldn't have heard. His feelings about Obiwan neglecting him and the council constantly being unsure about him becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. "They hate me so look at how I behave, now they hate me." He murders a bunch of children? It's just SO forced. I could easily rearrange some bits by removing the silly parts and building for a deeper threat for Anakin that makes more sense why he would fall. Anyone interested in my take, ask. This is already too long..

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t r2 show Luke how this battle went down from his memory drives?

I think when showed us darth vaders picture his lightssaber turend to kylo rens lightsaber

Anakin would have been better off just leaving the jedi order. And staying away from palpatine, going on a journey across the stars would have helped him understand things better.

I would have never left anakin there I would have gotten him and took him to medical and helped him regain himself back to the light

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Obi Wan should have given Vader a merciful 💀 rather than walk away while Vader burned.

Part 2?

If I’m Obi-Wan, after I give Anakin the warning to “not try it” and cut his legs off, I’m grabbing him by his arm and pulling him to safety. He was going to stand trial for his crimes (assuming order 66 had not been executed yet.) But I don’t think Obi-Wan had any idea of the order at that point anyway. Anakin was his brother, severely misguided with severe pain. Anakin needed to stand trial.

"Legends novel Shadows of the Empire". Yeah, no. To me and many, that's the intermediate story between V and VI. Not this shoe-horned Crimson Dawn / High Republic tie-in / Vader used as a vehicle to straighten out the "setup" for the Sequels told in subpar comics hardly anyone reads. Lucas actually had a good bit to do with SoTE and it was a multimedia project that yielded a fine novel, comic, video game, and merchandise with an audience that dwarfs any of this current Discanon by a mile - all without even having a feature film or literal billions in marketing behind it.

I would say most people feel sorry for Anakin in some sense. Really is a sad story

Anakin/Vader showed no mercy for the younglings he slaughtered so obiwan not being merciful by letting him burn seemed cruel but a fitting punishment.

I so wish we could go back and Luke would of never died. Killing him like that was so stupid