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@cancerconnoisseurАй бұрын
Why did they choose this instead of, oh I dunno... KILLER FUCKING FROST?!
@jake120007Ай бұрын
i was going to make this comment but you got my back, i legitimately love Killer Frost and i hate these stupid inclusive characters, bring back well written characters
@zeruhАй бұрын
they also added a killer frost weapon. so they know and acknowledge her, but instead chose to use their lame ass oc
The answer is simple : Killer Frost is generally slim, sexy, 'petite' at worst. For the sake of inclusion, they wanted a flat-chested brawler/lesbo woman.
@jake120007Ай бұрын
@@goblinounours im sad now
@sirgideonofnir6840Ай бұрын
Also dosent help that Mr Freeze is beloved by batman fans. If it was someone no one knew it'd go by better
@anthonywoertz8762Ай бұрын
Absolutely he’s one of the most tragic villains in Gotham
@WillTw12Ай бұрын
This game takes place in the arkhamverse where Mr Freeze died in the dlc of Arkham Knight in his wife’s arms
@2q2see2Ай бұрын
I would say Mr. Freeze is not just loved by bat man fans but all comic books fans and probably about 70% of the population on earth
@SaiputeraАй бұрын
Warner bros is a joke. They are killing DC lol
@CrazinatorАй бұрын
My silly silly friend don't you understand the people behind this dog shit Suicide Squad game is not the original team of Rocksteady they're actually new people that's doing this and are the reason why the Arkham versus is dog shit
@timjohnson8362Ай бұрын
Especially when killer Frost is already a well-known female dc ice villain. So you can't even give the representation excuse
@jeff2209Ай бұрын
Killer frost is sexy they need ugly lesbian representation.
@jeff2209Ай бұрын
Killer frost is sexy they need ugly lesbian representation.
@declancampbell1277Ай бұрын
im willing to believe that the studio is so incompetent they dont even know she exists.
@timjohnson8362Ай бұрын
@@declancampbell1277 can't she's referenced in a gun skin
@declancampbell1277Ай бұрын
@@timjohnson8362 damn it really is just one bad decision after another for them huh. Whether i was right or wrong doesnt matter though tbf, it just proves their incompetence either way lol
@santiagoherrera1853Ай бұрын
WB games: If only there was a female villain with well known history and representation within the Suicide Squad who canonically exists within the Arkhamverse with freezing powers….. Killer Frost: Hey guys! WB games: I’ve got it! Gender swap Mr Freeze!
@gggggggz5Ай бұрын
Well she doesn't exist in the arkham verse but valid
@santiagoherrera1853Ай бұрын
@@gggggggz5 Assault on Arkham is a movie that was confirmed to be part of the Arkham Universe and is set before the events of Arkham Asylum. In that movie we get to see the Suicide Squad, consisting of Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, Arkham Deadshot, a king shark who looks nothing alike to the one in the game and killer frost
@dumbly-stupidАй бұрын
@santiagoherrera1853 sadly the movie was decanonized because of this game
@PatrickWilliams-ts4leАй бұрын
@gggggggz5 you can just write her in, it isn't hard.
@yeeterdeleter2096Ай бұрын
@@gggggggz5they literally go to another universe in the game, the joker is from another fucking universe, and last I checked Mrs freeze isn't in Arkham so buddy make it make sense
@urielarellano8627Ай бұрын
Looks like Mr. Freeze is gonna drop on Apex💀
@ThedarrkknihhhtАй бұрын
💀💀💀
@glorifiedonion6676Ай бұрын
On Steam, only 350 people are playing, even at peak they scrape 500, how much will this cost to make up for creating this?
@quanlinglingdingle6122Ай бұрын
Before jonkler update it was like under 100 daily players
@Yo_CamiАй бұрын
Plot twist they all worked on the game 😅
@frogalex8915Ай бұрын
To be fair this Mrs. freeze character has nothing to do with the game being bad. They could have made the most badass Mr freeze and the game would still be ass. There are more people getting upset over the character choice than there is actually playing the game.
@HarbyzАй бұрын
If Nora looked like that. Mr Freeze woudnt have gone trough so much trouble to save her😂
@scarlet1508Ай бұрын
@@Harbyz lol
@keithjudge-wee6658Ай бұрын
Like many other poeple I also thought "why didn't they use Killer Frost" at first but then I suddenly had a realization. With the way the game is desgined fundementally, it would make no sense for Killer Frost to be in it. The game revolves around collecting, upgrading and constantly using different types of guns. Why the fuck would killer frost ever use a gun over using her ice powers? She wouldn't, she wouldn't even think to. This creates a major problem for the game because any cool or interesting villian characters they choose to intergrate into the game, can't primarily fight with the superpowers they are associated with. They'll have to pick characters who have interesting abilitys or skills but would end up choosing a gun to fight with most times. Which is just so fucking lame. Imagine clayface running around and instead of smashing poeple with shapeshifting he's using a shotgun. Choosing to make this game a looter shooter has heavily limited them with the kinds of characters they can choose from.
@KelvinKamsgАй бұрын
good observation
@stefangreyАй бұрын
That logic got thrown out at the beginning of the game to give Captain Boomerang and Killer Shark guns. They basically developed a basic looter shooter live service game and crammed suicide squad into it.
@bfeldz1023Ай бұрын
@stefangrey Apparently, it was actually the opposite according to the deep dive article on the game's cursed development a while back. They designed a Suicide Squad game and then were forced partway through development to cram a looter shooter live service game into it.
@shenanvindinu5120Ай бұрын
So karen is a playable character 😂
@christiancountryboyilovejesusАй бұрын
There trolling for attention because literally NOBODY is playing their game.
@master1442pАй бұрын
I mean it is always fun hearing grown ass men cry about a woman being cast in a superhero role😂
@plushiepenguinАй бұрын
@@christiancountryboyilovejesus Funnily enough this leaked months ago so this idiocy has been in development before this game was dead dead
@redhorsepapiАй бұрын
Now they have an excuse why the game is failing. It's because of "misogyny". Cos no one wants to play the "strong female character"
@broly345-32Ай бұрын
Also his wife could’ve been Mrs freeze cause this design make him look like a karen
@TheCursedCat1927Ай бұрын
According to a character synopsis, that leaked a couple of months ago, she quite literally is just a Karen with ice powers - that's all there is to her personality.
@broly345-32Ай бұрын
@@TheCursedCat1927 aint no way dawg this game
@elimanic7925Ай бұрын
Her original design is so much better than what they ended on for this game. Mrs. Freeze is such a baddie, but they went with the generic lesbian look. Such a tragedy
@Thorn_416Ай бұрын
Baddies cater to the Male Gaze. Which would please most toxic male gamers, which is the worst thing ever
@wolfinsheepsclothing842Ай бұрын
Probably because this isn't Mrs. Freeze from the comics. It's literally just genderswapped, lesbian Victor Fries. If they decided to make it Nora, the design still sucks ass, but it would've been much more interesting. But no.
@elimanic7925Ай бұрын
@@Thorn_416 Is there an issue with well designed and attractive characters in media? You don't gotta make every girl in gaming look like a drag or a slut, but you can make appealing designs for characters without pandering to gooners.
@s0undwavesuperi0r16Ай бұрын
"Our game is BOMBING! What should we do?" "You're gonna love this"
@Chicken0126Ай бұрын
And I thought them butchering the joker was bad 🤦♂️
@shaggy44zebraАй бұрын
They/Them Freeze
@SaiputeraАй бұрын
😂😂😂
@alexistecca408Ай бұрын
This is so bad I went back to Batman Arkham knight and city just to not be disappointed in WB
@SaiputeraАй бұрын
@@alexistecca408 ikr same! They kill batman in suicide Squad like it nothing. Not even flash or superman can survive 😬🤢
@AdamH7Ай бұрын
They could have also went with Killer Frost if they really wanted a female character, or Captain Cold or actual Mr Freeze if they wanted more well known ice characters.
@derajtheyuler7101Ай бұрын
Or even an actual comic accurate version of her, their is a comic of her becoming Mrs. Freeze but with her own actual costume not a Mr Freeze rip off…
@TrueGamer22887Ай бұрын
This isn’t Nora. Nora still exists and is her wife
@derajtheyuler7101Ай бұрын
@@TrueGamer22887 I’m saying they could have used Nora, there’s a comic where she comes back and takes over after Mr.Freeze dies to save her. I forget why she becomes him, I’m just saying there was already something they could have used, there’s already female villains like killer frost who could have worked better.
@Thorn_416Ай бұрын
Once you realize they are making these decisions out of spite, everything starts to make more sense
@TrueGamer22887Ай бұрын
I think people vastly underestimate the spitefulness of the devs on this game. The scene where Harley wants to carry Batman, as a call back to a throwaway joke scene in the old games, made that super clear to me. And then her cringe inducing speech before she kills him. You can also see it in the throwback skins they are adding. Harley makes a point at the beginning to not wear her Arkham outfit and now they’ve finally been forced to add a few of them as paid dlc. Of course though, they couldn’t just add the skins 1:1 they had to cover her up more than she was. This isn’t a huge deal, but when you realize what a conscious, spiteful decision that was from devs prob angry they had to add it in the first place it makes it so much worse. They couldn’t even bother to have her hair the right color either. It’s so lame
@flyeaglesfly6911Ай бұрын
I would’ve returned for Mini-Me Freeze.
@user-cd4do6em5eАй бұрын
For anybody that played the game I think it’s very clear that they are not interested in upholding the “classic iterations” of any character. It may not be your cup of tea but from what I can tell the intention IS to choose things like this instead of what’s already been around forever, still not the strongest game but I found it fun enough with a goofy turn your brain off kind of story. Would only recommend it on sale though and a good sale at that!
@TrueGamer22887Ай бұрын
The intent is spiteful subversion of things they deem wrong, not any wacky artistic merit
@hibarikyoya854Ай бұрын
It's just like blizzard where they trying to appeal to people but are really transparent about it
@sebastianquinchia1840Ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind an elseworlds where Nora becomes a supervillain but this ain't it
@bfeldz1023Ай бұрын
Killer Frost would have been a much better choice, but the Batman obsession just kills any possibility of us getting any interesting characters, apparently. Honestly, Nora would have even been a way better choice. If they really wanted to lean into the multiverse thing and they really wanted to do Mrs. Freeze that badly, it should have been Nora instead of just an alt universe genderswapped Victor. Give us a cool take on a universe where Victor is the one who was sick and Nora became Freeze. Explore how that could have changed the dynamic and how different she is from her husband as Freeze. Maybe she's not villainous? Maybe she's even worse than Victor? Who knows, theres so many directions that story could go in since Nora usually just a fridged wife, so she's a blank canvas to get creative with.
@tombucannonАй бұрын
Would’ve been such an easy W if they had used Killer Frost
@williamradke4290Ай бұрын
The only way Mrs. Freeze is if its NORA FRIES.
@lukeamparo6586Ай бұрын
The remaining Rocksteady team are creatively bankrupt, and WB’s mishandling ain’t helping. Killer Frost is right there!
@joshuatran6526Ай бұрын
Didn’t Mr Freeze do what he had to do to save his wife?
@TheArkhamKnight1893Ай бұрын
Should have been Killer Frost or if they kept even some of her design Victoria Fries the daughter of Victor and Nora Fries along with the ACTUAL Ms.Freeze.
@splatoonsavage7384Ай бұрын
I didn’t even know there was a season two for this game planned
@Count-THICCulaАй бұрын
In the multiverse, forget mr freeze, give me mr burn
@Ingel_Riday6690Ай бұрын
Man, the Warner Brothers bots are out in full force. This is good stuff. :-D Always fun to see a hornet nest get kicked. "buzz... buzz... any criticism of this is sexism and bigotry... do better... buzz buzz."
@thekinghoneybadger4216Ай бұрын
It takes place in rockstedy batman univers where mr freeze died
@1LifeGaming1Ай бұрын
They gave the fans Mr Zesty 😆
@WeaponOfMyDestructioАй бұрын
Math,hitting metrics, market reasearch crap etc does this
@jarretirish7281Ай бұрын
Honestly making it mrs freeze isnt the problem- you’re wanting to go for elseworlds The problem is EVERY mrs freeze design before this was absolutely amazing. You can reverse Nora and victors roles without trying to do the same to their appearance
@lukebritton7643Ай бұрын
This game has awful renown and no one was gonna buy the dlc anyways, but doing this at least has people talking. A total shit move, but still definitely their reasoning
@Child_of_woe_1994Ай бұрын
annoying thing is there are loads of other characters they could've used but instead they decided to go with this abomination
@jeremykane2824Ай бұрын
Super buff Mr. Freeze is pretty much the worst way you can represent that character.
@dain6492Ай бұрын
Get used to it ppl, it's the weird gender neutral looking npcs.
@joshuamoore4458Ай бұрын
Doing like a ice giant thing would be boss
@portshot4420 күн бұрын
I would just switched roles. Where Mr. Freeze was frozen.
@VigsolАй бұрын
Someone got the new Starfield skin!
@arcanefury3666Ай бұрын
In their defense genderbent, versions of character x are always a thing. However, if youre gonna do it i think she should have a more unique gimmic. Like you could get weird and make her a wizard.
@CHICKEN_Lord617Ай бұрын
Wish it were Bane instead
@wrexonusАй бұрын
You know what's the worst part they could've used either normal Mr Freeze or KILLER FROST
@livewithsinАй бұрын
The ice pun loving Arnold Schwarzenegger Mr. Freeze would have been so much better.
@KeonVioletWilkinsАй бұрын
Also doesnt help she looks nothing like she normally does. I would accept an evil pretty Elsa lady with ice powers but maybe make it so in her reality she got her powers from the conditions of her preservation. Maybe she doesnt need a freeze gun and instead uses her powers in a much more warlockish way. Maybe make a huge part of her character being extremely appreciative of Victor's efforts. I wouldn't mind seeing how such a devoted and morally conflicted character's actions would affect their loved one after everything was said and done. How would she view EVERYTHING he did for her? Maybe he died/is now the preserved one so she is often mirroring his poetic lines in Batman TAS that reference her but change the subject to him? Theres so many directions to take it in that just seeing this design... I know they wouldnt take... also they could have just used Mr. Freeze lol.
@woodreth1513Ай бұрын
I want a freeze voiced by Arnold but mocapped by Peter dinklage
@lawlessx9Ай бұрын
Someone at rocksteady saw the success they had with the DC IP and thought they could do whatever they wanted and people would buy it because DC
@LiftingLikeLarry-wg3gbАй бұрын
“I’ve got an idea guys… we do Mr Freeze… but WOMAN” And everybody clapped (on Twitter)
@low1rydaАй бұрын
The real question is why did they choose to make this game instead of a true successor to the Arkham trilogy.
@rentherengend1306Ай бұрын
You're telling me Arnolds Mr. Freeze isn't wacky and weird compared to his other counterparts?
@dragonhitman1071Ай бұрын
If you've seen the traversal it gets even worse.
@Jgt612Ай бұрын
If I’m being cynical - people talking negatively about your product, is still people talking about your product.
@JacksonMurphy-kc9dtАй бұрын
They could have done a buzzuro Mr freeze where he has lava flowing through his suit but it’s cold lava and it freeze stuff cuz he’s from buzzuro world the opposite of the main dc world, but that’s a half decent idea so of course they aren’t going to do it
@Gecko_ZenАй бұрын
They could have made a mr freeze thats both cold and hot and split down the middle like two face or a mr freeze that became Batman or Nora becomes freeze.
@MyaoraАй бұрын
Mrs. Freeze has been around for a few years now, it has nothing to do with the multiverse stuff and wasn't made up for the game.
@littleladlarryАй бұрын
They probably asked Mr freeze and he said no after looking at the game's steam charts
@TheDestroya88Ай бұрын
I like the idea of Mr. Freeze’s wife being the one to don the suit in some alt universe, but her design really seems like they were trying to make her “normal” instead of the badass wife I imagined her to be. Hopefully other aspects of her character become more interesting
@TrueGamer22887Ай бұрын
It’s not Nora. Is genderswapped mr freeze. Nora is still her wife. It’s so so lame
@TheDestroya88Ай бұрын
@@TrueGamer22887 oh that's kinda a bummer.
@opticgoku2611Ай бұрын
It’s also gotta be the worst variation of Nora freeze most of us have ever seen. There’s a ton of Nora freeze as mr freeze
@TheCyanideSmokerАй бұрын
Roster of HUNDREDS of Villains.... This is the choice. Damn, this game was a mistake
@alexbwja20 күн бұрын
This guy just really wants buff dudes.
@cloudthedark1Ай бұрын
It also doesnt help that 1) She looks like Killer frost. 2) Shes the worst designed Nora Fries we've ever seen.
@tinytitan1145Ай бұрын
You know who they could have used Mr freeze from the Batman 2004 who has actual ice powers which could have been cool as shit for the kit but no we have this
@BlackpearlmattАй бұрын
This is Arkham universe right so both Mr Freeze and Nora are both dead/inactive so it does make some sense
@Fyre19Ай бұрын
Could have gone with like a cryofrozen mister freeze or some sort of cyborg freeze thing idk
@XxgrimjowxXАй бұрын
Wasn't there an alternate universe where Mr freeze and his whife swapped place's? That would be a much better option
@s.lenderjay8607Ай бұрын
Mk1, multiversus, suicide squad: ktjl. These are the games that show the WB corporate greed.
@doodleydoo169Ай бұрын
Take away the blue and the whole thing falls apart
@ericstrahler5767Ай бұрын
Its a subversion of expectations. Whatever they choose. You will complain. Not this in particular...just anything they try something new.
@masongrae5010Ай бұрын
Should’ve been his wife as a playable character
@justanotheranimeprofilepicАй бұрын
"This is a really boring design": literally wearing the Mr freeze suit from the Arkham games modeled for a female character
@battlepig90Ай бұрын
Let me speak to your manager, Ms freez
@jonnofish7567Ай бұрын
If they wanted a female ice character should have used killer frost.
@CrazyClown4_25Ай бұрын
Speaks volumes that they inexplicably delayed the season by like a week or so.
@daltonstimson706226 күн бұрын
If they made it interesting they could have made Mrs.FREEZE Nora and Victor as the one in stasis that would be better character wise but game play was missed hard
@sladewilson4823Ай бұрын
Wait. I thought this guy was Elvis The Alien.
@aJohnnyBentonАй бұрын
Studio Exec: they want how much for Mr. Freeze? How much for Mrs. Freeze?
@awesomemanspiffАй бұрын
No no one is saying it’s cause it’s a multiverse! Everyone already knows why they chose what they chose they just don’t want to say it cause they know they would face aggression and backlash!
@thedeed8740Ай бұрын
You’re talking out your ass Literally everyone is criticizing their decision. There is no backlash 😐
@ModekaiPLАй бұрын
Honestly, first time I saw i thought it was mr freeze with short hair 😅
@dudemetslagroom8065Ай бұрын
if they wanted to go really crazy with it then they could have made mr freeze a penguin with an ice gun or something... I'll be taking those royalties now WB. And yeah i agree... Mrs Freeze could work but by god make her actually look cool? be a bit creative, have some fun with it. And if you can't do any of that... Why not use Killer Frost then? People like her.
@Astartes-6969Ай бұрын
They coulda just gave us Deathstroke.
@TremuosoАй бұрын
You know why.....you all know why.
@omegalegion1769Ай бұрын
She looks like a killer frost rip off with a gun. I seen the comics Mrs. Freeze and she has her own powers. She's actually more intriguing than this one.
@lordbertie7429Ай бұрын
Becuase they wanted their own take, but also couldnt change the core kf the character, their aesthetic or abilities. They gender swapped it. It takes nothing from the character, it also doesnt add much but thats a separate issue.
@dreamforall5833Ай бұрын
Killer Frost has fans it’s not like she’s not a somewhat notable dc hero. i think rocksteady was just being silly geese
@RulerOfYoreАй бұрын
They could have just used Killer Frost…
@SeallypoopsАй бұрын
I like the idea of nora in the suit to see how she would deal with the dilemma, but i guess yall need a reason to complain about a hame you already didnt like
@mattallen5335Ай бұрын
Because it's supposed to be Mr. Freeze, not bane.
@brabbits5308Ай бұрын
Tbh...that thing looks more like killer frost😂
@soldierswag4884Ай бұрын
I really dont understand some developers , they invest millions of dollars into a making a videogame and than they think they are gonna make money from thing like these
@sixxer7730Ай бұрын
See I wouldnt mind it, if it was Nora as either Mrs. Freeze or Lazara as she was in some comic runs, but its this Gender Bent Victoria Freeze or whatever, Theyre going wrong they have the material to do better
@Black_Panda95Ай бұрын
Yeah, i would be more on board with this character choice if the design wasn't so boring and uncreative. Like if you have the multiverse excuse to redo a character's design, go absolutely wild with it! Also Killer Frost is right there for a female ice villain. There are more than Batman villains in the DC universe but i guess WB doesn't know that
@ioncamin5Ай бұрын
BECAUSE ITS BRAVE, DIVERSE AND EQUITABLE!! WHY ARE YOU A PHOBE LUKE?!?!? YOU WANNA BE CANCELLED?
@fionn2220Ай бұрын
At this point of culture war garbage I don't even have an opinion or reaction ti stuff like this on its own terms, I just take cynical joy in knowing before the people who get paid to know what the extremely predictable reaction to this is gonna be. Its like throwing a steak to a pack of lions by now, no opinion needed just sit back and enjoy the show.
@YasirKhan-ey6hiАй бұрын
“I wanna see a buff oily MAN” but I do agree the design isn’t great. But also who cares no one’s playing the game
@Crimson745828 күн бұрын
How about instead of doing another Batman adjacent character how about using Killer Frost. She’s already been in the two animated movies and some comics.
@artmaster0831Ай бұрын
He’s supposed to be cold, he hates heat, so why do they have fur along the collar of the suit
@jsurrowbandsАй бұрын
Rocksteady should make a single player game. Nobody gives a shit about a live service suicide squad game hate to say it but