"The character MUST do this random stupid thing that makes no sense, or the movie can't happen." "Are you admitting that your movie premise makes no sense, then?"

@@robsolf aka "The Damon Lindelof school of scriptwriting"

Nailed it

Exactly. They are activists. They deny reality, objectivity causes them severe pain. They don’t portray the world as it is.. but how the wish it would be.

​@robsolf ignore money and finds cat. Bag of money right in front of you... Forspoken.... Funny enough protagonist of that game was better before SBI "suggestions"

Nomura is an old writer that time travelled to this day to make his 20+ year video game franchise about anime characters having deep feelings and emotional dread about their own existence with disney characters in the background

​@@heroicgangster9981If you're talking about kingdom hearts, then I'm sorry to tell you but that game franchise has terrible and corny writing

@@bingusdingus39 I have not played any Kindom Hearts game yet but I would rather have corny and cheesy writing that comes off as sincere than the super cynical sarcastic shit we get.

You can blame the MCU.

@@Tiven321 I agree man, Kingdom hearts writing is entertaining, it's so bad it's good. It's got soul, which you can't say about a lot of modern writing

Good people finally found out that you can vote with your wallet 👍

Agreed. In the past, games like Forspoken would be axed when someone gave the story a good look. RPGs can't skimp on the story. But today, all execs can see and hear are MICROTRANSACTIONS, RECURRENT PLAYER SPENDING, and TENTPOLE FRANCHISE!!!!! Executives are so focused on the game making more money off its success, they don't care if the game ITSELF is actually successful

The main problem with modern games is a thing called Recency Bias.

No that's not it at all. People dont realise even passion projects are made to make money. They have always used KPIs to make game design choices

@@JJJBunney001 They're not using KPI any longer, they're using DEI now. There's no way in hell you can look at a movie like The Marvels or any Disney movie in the past couple years and say "yeah, KPI".

So, let me ask you. Why do investment firms like BlackRock invest in such endeavors and then force the companies to do what they want them to do? What do they actually want? To change the world? As Social justice warriors? Do they consider themselves as Diversity Messiahs? I am really curious. That is because I have always been taught and learned that big cooperations are all about profit and nothing else. They invest in those outlets such as games and movies because they want them to grow, that is supposed to be an investor’s aim. If those grow and have a lot of revenue, the investor profits. What is this about ‘sending the message’ I hear so much about? Are they dumb or what? Seriously though, I also learned that BlackRock is Israeli company so why would they even care about diversity and such? Why would they want to do so unprofitable and stupid changes in growing industries? I am pretty sure they are not reaping the profits. Enlighten me. I am not from US so I am oblivious about things like that. However, the changes in US also affect entertainment industry around the world so I want to know why.

Explain to me why BlackRock is doing this? I know that are probably richer than the countries themselves but why would they care about diversity and social justice or smth?

Yep. Look at what Activision put out with their 3-year DEI plan.

We're definitely getting a lot more triple A flops now.

.....most shovel ware actually came from big publishers and devs. Hell EA, Square, Raven, and Ubi use to put out a lot of shovel ware.

@@aliquidgaming1068 But those typically had shovelware budgets to go along with them. Those kinds of games were typically used to try a new fangled mechanic or game idea, and depending on how that part of the game was received, it would then be implemented (or not) into a tent pole game. As garbage as those games usually were, they at least represented an attempt at innovation. Now AAA studios don't do these budget games, and thus have become risk averse and only chase trends.

And they didn't preemptively antagonized the audience

​@@aliquidgaming1068as sun stated, and that you just said, it was clearly shovelware, in budget and scope, and quite frankly, incredibly diverse compared to the market today. It's not who made them, but the fact that they knew to keep experiments on a lower scale, then ramp it up to full budget when they know they had something.

I agree. It seems like the industry is being run by professional managers trying to make arrow go up and not by people with a passion for making great games.

There is no balance between bad and good games, for every bad game in the past there was a good one to offset it. now you just see a flood of bad games with little to no good games.

Nailed it

They aren’t the only ones

@@THEONETRUEOVERLORDthey are tho. Blackrock has majority stake in Vanguard and has seats on the board. And vice versa. So it’s just one company calling the shots split into a few to avoid being targeted.

(((Blackrock)))

@@THEONETRUEOVERLORD not the only one sure, but it's most definitely the largest by vast amounts

Employ a ton of people who have no business being in the business. It's clear they Do not want to be there and see it as worthless. So the question is, why are they there if they hate it so much

this. actually crazy how it seems there's so many people within the industry that actively resent the audience they're marketing to. not even out of touch execs, but now some studio heads and devs.

It’s super obvious but some people actually defend them it’s so weird

You sound like a sweet baby fan

@@BlueBD Rent that is why many people do you think they don’t like for rent.

Agreed, only the "ubisoft" part is superfluous.

Gonna install Watch_Dogs 1 again and mod it with Living_City which I hear is great.. who needs modern Ubisoft when we have modders doing the Lord's work?

Goes with Ubisoft's Gameplay. Its copy paste in all their franchises.

@@Killswitch1411 But it’s not even copy paste It gets worse with every new game they release

it will never work lol, not everyone can be fortnite

Idk who said it, but can't copy another game and hope to be the next fortnite, you have to create your own game and if it's good it will become next big hit. The problem is the suited idiots just see the other games numbers and just want to copy that.

It was my impression that it already is the standard.

​@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 Yeah I think this too

Hes a game "Journlist" they often despise their audience and they think they are better and know better then the audience and customers

😂😂

Lmao 😭😭

How many times does this lesson need to be taught old man

Savage 😂😂

*AAA Game industry crash. I never played most of the indie tiles due to having more then enough of good AAA games being released each year until 2015. Now I play mostly indie tiles. Also 5-7 year dev cycle with 800+ teams (not dev teams mind you, HR, VP of useless dept etc as well...) it's not feasible. My favourite games were made when studio's have had no more than 100 people working on it and the funny part is some of the games (that were made in a fraction of a budget compare to over-bloated teams & marketing budgets etc) have had or still has better graphic & animation compare to games that has been released in recent years...

I think its mostly the AAA sphere of gaming thats coming to collapse in on itself. there are plenty of small indie companies who will more than likely survive.

Looks at AC games the last 10 years. Yup, sounds right 😢 Why do they hate us old fans

and there is the other side of the coin, which is just reactionary. Suits up top who just say "this was successful, so make this" without a grasp on what makes it actually good. there will be so many bad Baldurs Gate clones in the future.

There are many issues. First of all no one writes anything this days. All writing is made by a group of writers along with consultant agencies etc. Imagine if Tolkien tries to write Lord of the Rings by gathering every person in town and all sitting together writing stuff and mixing it together. Stories are great because they include someone's vision. But now every game has 10-30 writers a few story consultants and after they write something the suits also intervene and ask that things are rewritten in certain way etc. It's a mess. How can you write anything with single vision and coherence? And then they cry that budgets are blowing up and they need to raise prices of games. well when you pay a whole room of stuff to write anything along with other companies when you used to have one or two guys write stories of course you budgets will go threw the roof.

Wanna talk about bad writing? Have you heard the story of Past Lives?? And how it's considered Oscar worthy? I don't get how alot of people are given checks to make the horseshit they do. I mean, I do know, it's "diversity" and because it's a non-white person. (Not being hateful, but it feels fairly obvious why they do what they do)

ubisoft have the same model than years ago, the only the diference is the main price of the game, when a couple years a game used to be 60$, now days they are selling for 80$. But all the rest of the crap like season pass, gold edition etc... they haven't rise the price of that. The last game i buy from ubisoft was the AS Valhalla and that game was 60$ after that i buy the season pass 40$ more = 100$ (that would be like buying the gold edition of the game). Now days they are selling this AS for 70$ if you add to that the season pass would be exactly the 40$ that i expend a couple years ago when they release the AS valhala (is a crap i know but they are being on this shit for years). Back then the Deluxe edition was being sell for 120$.

Madden itself is just a cash grab, it is NOT a different game whatsoever, it is a $70 micro-transaction. They should never make those games ever again

Not to mention how UBI also has the stupid subscription model for all of the different versions lol. 9 a month to play base game 15 to play deluxe gold edition

But the reason they priced assassin's creed so high is because they are actually just trying to push people to subscribe to their ubisoft+ for $15 a month. It's a big ask.

Bad comparison

It’s funny to think that one of the early Ultima games was made for $3 million

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 Yeah, but there wasn't 800+ people "working" on it. All of these people require salary ranging from £20K to £100K a year. Also now you have to pay a lot of fees (for tools, store fronts etc), marketing, legal teams and so on... Not that I'm defending that but it's the current reality of a "AAA" game studio & publisher.

then why even have the title be "Fall Guy" if not to reference the old show. they could have just called it something else if it was going to be its own thing.

I truly believe the budget reason is a lot of higher ups being waaaaay too overvalued. Like sure, people need to be paid well for their work and what they bring to the team/production, but I feel if Fall guy cost $130 million, no less than 40-50 million went to Ryan and Emily, along with a few Higher-ups

Why I like games like Outlast Trials! It's a game that knows it's definitely rubbing people the wrong way, but it's intriguing and creates buzz. It's taboo and has alot of content and themes/violence/imagery, etc. That most publishers and companies wouldn't dare produce or stand by. That's why Red Barrels was founded lmao. It's not for everyone but for the people it catches, its almost always a new customer. If that makes sense (sorry I'm high)

@@duckieg420_4 thx for sharing bro 👍

is there a technique in writing to get characters who are LGBT+ accepted by people who hate progressive politics in video games?

​@@heroicgangster9981 yeah, write actual characters, I dont want to be pandered to. screw that paragon of justice that feels off in the world

@@heroicgangster9981sure. It would have to be genuine. Peolle hate it cause it’s deceptive and fake.. the singular goal of these activists is to infuse everything with their world view.. the goal should be to make a good product.. but it’s clearly not.

I don’t know I feel like you’re just a right winger and no matter what happens you’re going to hate what’s in the game. Because your politics are from 1865 like anyone who talks about activists at companies probably just doesn’t like gay people. And doesn’t want them in games and there is no way to do that that will make you happy

@@heroicgangster9981 yes. Look at BG3 for example. When you write a good character that happens to be gay no one has issues with it. Also, most of the time the sexuality of a video game character does not matter at all. Who cares if a Doom Guy prefers makes or females when the game is about shredding demons. But the degenerate pink haired activists want the games to advertise gayness of everything and everyone, whether it is suitable or not.

You are probably correct. But I'll add the ppl who wrote Trevor knew that he was a psychotic pos and dint pretend he was anything else. It is why he works. The characters in saints row are written as idlf they have some sort of moral high ground. They are bad ppl but are written as is lf they are good.

Hard agree. I loved that game so much

He looks at videogames as a whole and looks at them objectively. That's why he compared it to other games. He looks broader than just one franchise.

I mean you can look at ac valhalla for example $60 base game price, $40 for season pass $100 at launch price AC shadows $70 base game $40 season pass Full price at launch $110 Its legit $10 difference. Now if an idiot wants to pay $20 for a skin pack early they can go for the ultimate edition.

Also youd have to add if they have an expansion outside of the season pass like valhalla for $40

The thing is the activists don't want to pay for anything. Because they just want to be mad and not actually do something. They inconvenience people at best, and commit social suicide at worst, making normal people actually hate the very cause they claim to champion. Want to know why anti lgbt rhetoric is going up online? Blame the people who make it out like all lgbt people are fucking psychotic through their "activism". Treating it like that's the only thing that matters.

Yeah but the top edition came with some cool shit, like a statue of Connor (still have that one). Now you get nothing tangible for all that money.

@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 I'm talking about digital editions but yes there were indeed also collectors editions at that time.

@@misterhoobomaster But they didn't cross mark of £64.99, now its £99.99 without season pass... Also in that price you could but a collectors edition with physical stuff like I did with Ubisoft points discount I've got a Odyssey Collector Edition with Alexios statue lol.

At least they were goofy bad, not political.

From small companies just getting their feet wet, in a new 3D era of gaming. That's a huge difference. They weren't propaganda thinly disguised by being encased in a shitty game, then given predatory pricing models.

Why is that

@@unicorntomboy9736 Cost of living in general is up. Rent, gas, food, utilities, insurance, medicine.

@@chrisflynn9695 Blame the government for the lockdowns during the pandemic

@@unicorntomboy9736 That's where it started.

@@chrisflynn9695 It will be resolved soon enough

What more can we innovate? The problem is that people are trend chasing instead of making a game that they well and truly do want to make. Like, Onrush may have been somewhat in the trend trenches, but FUCK it was incredibly fun, and felt incredible to play. I wish I could play it again... The problem isn't the lack of innovation, it's the lack of passion. Creatives in the modern era are being "replaced" by automated code that is trying to imitate a person, without any of the capacity to what makes a good person. Aspiration, Imagination, Passion, Creativity, Drive, and Inspiration. An "ai" just does what it is told. It has no autonomy. People are being ground down into drones, no different than "ai". The only difference is that people will inevitably give out because we are not machines. That's the problem. The passion for gaming is dying out in the scene of creating them, because of the executive system and greed of corporate leaders and shareholders, trying to fulfill a lie that has been proven without question. "INFINITE GROWTH, LINE MUST ALWAYS GO UP, AND AT ALL COSTS". Which means that if it ever drops, or it is projected to, then slash and burn until it's a growth. And try to repeat with less workers or cheaper workers and repeat. It's unsustainable, but knowing how the greedy work, they are only capable of seeing short term things. Instead of long term sustainability. In an ideal world, we would have companies where the people at the top, are paid less than the actual people doing the work. Because what does an executive really matter outside of being the person, who is handling the finances. We don't need CEO's. We need passionate people who want to bring dreams to life. And a system that actually treats them well. Otherwise, we are going to live in cyberpunk, minus all the cyber and where punk is stomped out completely. A world of people infected by brain rot and all subservient to the dictators without any thought or drive to have an independence. Just obedience. Tldr, kill all corpos and shareholders, make lobbying illegal, and force executives to be paid equal to or less than their workforce. And have pay be based on what you are doing and how hard you work for it. Champion sustainability over all else.

It’s hard to know how much of those costs are real vs accounting tricks.

I would say from a graphic point of view then yeah we've hit a brick wall but storytelling and gameplay is an entirely different story. Honestly there so many many ways to innovated on gameplay or stories that could be done but we've only hit a brick wall because either the money isn't there, there people who shouldn't be in this industry or the companies are not willing to take on higher risk. If you wanting examples there a ton from the indie scene when it comes to gameplay or storytelling but not a lot coming out of triple A because they usually want to play it safe.

Sad Battlefield and Halo noises.. BF5 and Infinite are generally fine now but I have basically no faith going forward.

@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN I get the sadness and lack of faith, but certain companies are doing well. Like the new doom game about be announced, that game guarantee will be awesome, but if one keeps putting faith in companies and games that have proven to have a shitty track record, then what can you really expect?

Eh, just checked out the game you were and from the marketing and thumbnails it just looks generic, no wonder it flopped