@playboybrendo103 10 ай бұрын
My goats whether they win or lose , no one has the level of skill/knowledge of smash like them. Such an inspiration honestly.
@zumirelix 10 ай бұрын
For sure. So annoying seeing people shit talk them when they still have some of the most wins throughout the life of this game.
@nofriendsclub69 10 ай бұрын
Well said, bro ✌️
@andrewherwald1767 10 ай бұрын
Imo their mastery and ability to win with multiple characters should factor into their goat status. Compared to someone like sonix who is only good with sonic. Sparg0 is the only up and comer who can also do it like them
@playboybrendo103 10 ай бұрын
@@andrewherwald1767 that’s what I just said lol
@1tresequis 10 ай бұрын
that's how you know the title is clickbait
@adamquenano8563 10 ай бұрын
It is great seeing how comfortable Leo has been doing all these shows and interviews, not many former #1 players did this much for their game aside from Hbox.
@jilvermazariegos 10 ай бұрын
Zero was very good on the mic too
@thatdude3977 10 ай бұрын
Hbox lowkey sabotaging ultimate meta...
@Liquid12322 10 ай бұрын
@@thatdude3977 why?
@harpot678 10 ай бұрын
I mean No.1 Hbox is so different from Content Hbox
@BocchitheGwak 10 ай бұрын
@@thatdude3977???? Explain
@owenicewater9704 10 ай бұрын
Saying Tweek “fell off” is kind of crazy considering that this is maybe his best year of smash since 2019, but regardless of that, I love the way that this show is evolving and the direction it’s going in to focus on Leo, the guest, and general relevant topics in a way that balances out very well.
@coccilecolloptere1391 10 ай бұрын
I mean he was 2nd in the world and now he’s not anymore so that’s fair to say that he fell off
@fiber1881 10 ай бұрын
I think it is fair to say he did rankings wise though. Tweek used to always be considered a top 3 player and he is not really in consideration for that right now according to most. Top 3 is basically Acola, Miya, and Spargo for sure right now. I am not even sure you would place him in the top 5 ahead of Sonix and Glutonny right now either. And Light and Zomba are right there with him in USA now. Tweek used to be considered easily the best in the USA and while he may still be it isn't by much.
@greedo194 10 ай бұрын
@@fiber1881pretty sure gluto is considered 3rd rn
@TheKABE09 10 ай бұрын
Maybe not anymore, but Tweek had a big slump past Summit 3 and just a year ago started to do as good as he has
@ryanrech107 10 ай бұрын
@@greedo194he’s not atm by most but there’s certainly a good argument for it
@arturoandres2 10 ай бұрын
The amount of respect and admiration these 2 have for each other is truly the true mark of sportsmanship. Hope to see them do well this weekend, they still have that 🔥. Let's go my 🐐s!
@thelordoftheweebs9501 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait until they wrap their tongues together
@bluehunt3436 9 ай бұрын
Very well said!!! I was wondering why watching this made me so happy but you hit the nail on the head. Some of the best sportsmanship I’ve ever seen between two great people and players 🩵
@willdg8108 9 ай бұрын
Tweek’s skill as a podcaster has improved so substantially it’s honestly insane. he sounds so comfortable and fluid now
@HiFive99 10 ай бұрын
If these two had a podcast it would be amazing. Sparg0 guest on this would go WILD
@steezymnk 10 ай бұрын
Frfr
@DrWavy-fq2qk 10 ай бұрын
This been a LONG TIME COMIN! Hear about these two talking behind the scenes at so many tournaments but never on cam, so this is nothing less than a treat
@cordy5849 10 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing: these two are my favorite players. I DO NOT care if people say they fell off (I don’t think they did they’re both still top ten imo). I’m going to watch whenever they play, I’m going to root for them, and I’m stoked to see them at tournaments. They are and will always be the Great Gods of Smash
@legrandliseurtri7495 10 ай бұрын
Tweek is doing better than last year overall, this title is just a lie lol. He's having a great year.
@rohannambiar6564 10 ай бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 I think they mean relative to where they were pre-covid era
@alvaroguel9623 10 ай бұрын
@@rohannambiar6564exactly. And you can also argue because these guys don’t settle for anything less than #1. MAMBA MENTALITY
@marlinmurrell620 10 ай бұрын
I feel like when we say they fell off, we really mean they went from top 5 players to top 10 players lmao
@eragon78 8 ай бұрын
Well, "fell off" relative to their peak. Leo was #1 for like 5 years, so being "just" top 10 is a bit of a downgrade. In fact, his results this season may not even be good enough for top 10, he's more like top 15, just shy of that top 10 placement. he'd need like a top 3 at a P tier or something to really cement him as a top 10 right now before the season is over. Leo hasnt actually even won a major in a while now. Not even like an A tier. Tweek hasnt really fallen off though imo. He's like, SLIGHTLY lower ranking wise, instead of being #2/#3, he's like in the 5-7 range. But he's still pretty much one of the biggest threats in smash right now so hardly a drop off. But he still wins events even.
@JackBz 10 ай бұрын
Easily the best luminosity video yet. Could watch hours of these guys talking about smash
@sleeplesscarp 10 ай бұрын
Best episode so far. It's hard to put into words the rivalry, comradery and respect these two have for each other. I can't but thing of Mang0 vs Armada and how sad it'd be if one of them stopped competing. Gotta keep that fire alive.
@WalrusPNG 10 ай бұрын
Y’all two need ur own podcast. Genuinely great episode
@Spyder-Marth 10 ай бұрын
Tweek & MKLeo are both awesome. If either of you see this comment, thank you for everything. Thank you for being good role models in the community, thank you for shaping the meta the way it is, and thank you for showing everyone how hype Smash can be. When you two play, I feel a type of excitement I hardly feel anywhere else. Win or lose, you two are the GOATs. Also, thank you Luminosity for sponsoring these amazing players. Thank you for sticking with Smash even after Nintendo's Guidelines, and thank you for all of this good KZfaq! I think Smash would actually be dead if it wasn't for this organization.
@im_Spade_ 9 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself ❤
@j_sol2550 10 ай бұрын
Forever my GOATS. Nothing beats having watched their Evo set for the first time. I was just getting into watching smash and it is the reason why I love it so much
@Casual_Shots 10 ай бұрын
Shoutout to production! Audio, lighting, editing, and angles are all so on point. This would easily be the greatest smash podcast series we’ve ever had.
@jms214az 10 ай бұрын
U can't have Ultimate without Leo and Tweek can't wait to see what is next for yall Stay Blessed Leo and Tweek
@NotorV23 10 ай бұрын
i love seeing tweek give mk leo his flowers unabashedly. no one is there to cut in and make a joke and it was just really nice and sweet. I didn't realize how much of an impact mk leo has had on tweek cause of the competitive narrative
@inmybestdaysidontdocrack 10 ай бұрын
I love how funny the titles are cause Tweek and Leo still have good placements for the events they go too. It’s just Leo used to always win and Tweek earlier this year was top 8ing everything. I think this being considered them falling off shows how good they are
@tally.klecko 10 ай бұрын
Wow what a great interview and dynamic. It’s really cool seeing leo get more comfy in front of the camera and carrying himself in a more confident way. Love these guys and their history and for what’s to come 🍻
@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy 9 ай бұрын
Hungry Helper
@camro14 9 ай бұрын
This podcast was beautiful. The smash community needs more of this please.
@sikone831 10 ай бұрын
tweek didnt fall off and leo just fell off being #1..leo still gets amazing results its just not #1...doesnt mean they suck, means the bar they set for themselves is hard to reach.
@DGSnowolf 10 ай бұрын
I mean if "fell off" refers to falling off in results then Leo did fall off
@sikone831 10 ай бұрын
@@DGSnowolf yes ur right..damn ahaha wow
@falseinfo5734 10 ай бұрын
@@DGSnowolffr 😂
@tigrrr2132 9 ай бұрын
this was such a great watch. tweek and leo are truly the modern day hbox mango
@joshuadavis8265 10 ай бұрын
Top tier luminosity! I could listen to a 3 hour pod cast with these two.
@TurtonatorGuy 10 ай бұрын
I fricken love these two, I could listen to them all day! I love that they're on the same team and are friends! They're so cute and sweet together and you can see how much they respect and value one another. I legit almost cried when they talked about how they'd be lonely if the other stopped competing! It's always a pleasure to see them together, be it in bracket or just chatting!
@paulgrewal587 10 ай бұрын
I’m shocked these guys are so young. As a 32 year old, their maturity is impressive to me. I guess all the travelling, competition etc. pushes you to your limits in every way.
@snxgggyyyboards7869 9 ай бұрын
W pfp
@ClockWorksb 10 ай бұрын
I’m so glad these 2 are still around, I’ve been here since Tweek was playing Jr and Mkleo’s big breakthrough at Smash factor 4 in 2015 so it’s cool to see where they’re at now
@Asnerlicious 9 ай бұрын
I loved getting this back and forth between the great rivals. Both of these players have been pioneers in so many different characters in the current meta. I know your rankings or seedings aren't as high as they were. But what you should remember is this simple fact: If Leo or Tweek won the next major it would be no great shock. Seed them wherever you want, they are a lifetime. threat. At any and every tournament they show to. Also, know that during quarantine every local had some players studying Tweek and Leo's habits by vods. No doubt. I love how you guys love the game. Your relationship of challenging each other has pushed each other to be a better player. And it's so cool to see there is no bitterness in the rivalry after all this time.
@A-K1raMUSIC 10 ай бұрын
Mkleo's optimistic outlook on the game is so inspiring. It's crazy people hate on him for losing when he's still on the grind and wants to win.
@Lerkero 10 ай бұрын
Its not really that they fell off, its that they raised the bar so that other players could come to their level. The playing field is more even now
@LordGriffith 10 ай бұрын
Loving goat talk more each iteration, already a fan of tweel talks but watching Leo here makes me want to see him do these more often, love his insight about the scene/players etc. Hope these become regular or Leo ends up joining or even making his own podcast!
@CyanPHD 9 ай бұрын
I have a strange feeling next year we're gonna have 12 Tweek vs MkLeo Grand Finals. Let's go goats! Been following both since the smash 4 days and honestly just glad both are still here and competing, win or lose they'll forever be some of the greatest rivalry, greatest competitors, greatest players the scene had ever seen
@TheRealOmegaPets 10 ай бұрын
Tweek aint fall off, he just aint been going to anything.
@darkdraconis 10 ай бұрын
How can you listen to this and not have the biggest grin on your face. You just gotta love these two my GOATS
@im_Spade_ 9 ай бұрын
I relate so much to Tweek and his mentality. How does Leo do it? One of the best things about leo is he's just so damn chill about everything, but still strives to stay on top. It's genuinely mindblowing, and I'd say most of us would agree it's insane how goated his behavior and sportsmanship is.
@strides777 9 ай бұрын
I love listening to their conversation. They have great chemistry with each other.
@cloutdadFR 10 ай бұрын
bro this production quality is CRAZY
@chibimoon1432 9 ай бұрын
I'll always love the days of early ultimate and these two dominating the rankings. Because back then I was in highschool and all my friends we gathered around to play smash. It was my first smash game I played competitive style instead of casual, and created some of the most fun days in school! Ofc learning about Mkleo, Tweek, Light, and Void(my fav at the time) really pushed to dive deeper into the game. I'll never forget the day joker released and how excited I was and then watching Leo vs Tweek at evo 2019!! Definitely nostaligic😊
@CoHzus 9 ай бұрын
LOL the IDK HELP ME at 13:25 was so gold hahaha, love these 2
@remiguy5319 9 ай бұрын
what a great show. Love from France ! We love to see you coming there !
@fijizzle 9 ай бұрын
Tweek is articulate AF. Really appreciate the depths of his views on the game and life itself!
@TonyStorm21 10 ай бұрын
The idea of a "LG Invading Trip" sounds awesome and it would probably be cheaper than flying them individually.
@jaytay4027 9 ай бұрын
33:00 thats how mang0 felt when armada left melee
@Drake5002 9 ай бұрын
Favorite two players. So humble. Good energy. The community could learn a lot from these guys. Regardless of placement these 2 will remain my favorite smash players
@zer0luink 10 ай бұрын
Good interview so awesome that they acknoledge how much of an impact they have made to one another and everything. Hope they both make it to grand finals this next tourney that would be great!
@lacchiappacolore44 10 ай бұрын
In person podcast is the way, great stuff
@crazykhespar8487 9 ай бұрын
Mutual interview between homies = dope
@federicoforabosco6955 10 ай бұрын
I feel like these 2 are extremely knowledgeable in smash ultimate in different way. Tweek focuses more on the mental side and new ideas and creativity while leo is more instinctual and tries to simplify the game to how he likes it. Its really fascinating to me
@theincredibleillmo9385 9 ай бұрын
Just remember these 2 guys are the real gods of Smash Ultimate so far. 🇲🇽❤️🇺🇸
@hecty8667 10 ай бұрын
Best smash podcast episode I’ve ever watched, great stuff could watch these two talk forever it’s so insightful
@togumicai 10 ай бұрын
yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaah let's go i love the leo tweek content holy shit Tweek and Leo Japan content double invasion would be SICKKKK
@James-yf7nq 9 ай бұрын
Leo's podcast publicly available on youtube now is dope but uhhh maybe yall could put "Goat Talks:" in front of the titles so that it's actually clear that this is Leo's podcast. Like friends of mine who didn't already know that he had a podcast just assumed this was a video LG put out dragging their own players instead of Leo's podcast lol
@jayjigga 10 ай бұрын
NEED more long-form content between these two
@xg.55555 10 ай бұрын
Tweek didnt fall off. He is actually doing really good right now. Only people who are dangerous are the japanese
@trevorcuzner3358 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion...top two players in smash period. Always the most fun to watch and definitely defines what it means to be chill human beings and amazing competitors. Great to see the old school still thriving to be the best and continue a long rivalry and friendship. Evolve, evolve evolve.
@MelloFlowz 9 ай бұрын
Good interview. Respectable players in a crazy environment no doubt. Thx for takin pics with me in Miami. Stay up!
@sauce8277 9 ай бұрын
Tweek: “I’m winging it” *ONE-WINGING it U could say* 🧐
@sergeantcrunchy 9 ай бұрын
Major props on the production. Better than most podcast type things, not even for just esports
@panosbaxevanos788 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Luminosity for supporting the Smash scene and giving these amazing/ talented individuals work to keep up a living playing the game we all love. A lot of respect to these two legends, Smash easily has the best Pros in all of esports. The skill, the humble attitudes, and the passion they share with fans makes it a community I want to be in.
@Geeving2130 9 ай бұрын
I'll NEVER forget evo 2019. Always a tweek fan so that hurt but my god do these two put on a show. Ult just isn't the same nowadays
@erikrevier4053 10 ай бұрын
Very excited to watch this weekend. Best of luck to you both. Here's to a LG GF. Cheers!
@Izual-Anyel 10 ай бұрын
Obviously the food is the best part of the trip of tweek in Mexico, the Goats talking about mexican food is just *Muack*
@bananas_toast 10 ай бұрын
this shit made me tear up I love y’all so much
@AroundWayOther 10 ай бұрын
this was great to watch, tyvm to tweek leo and LG for doing this! super insightful
@victini_10 10 ай бұрын
love these two, pls have more episodes like this
@DekuScrub_ 10 ай бұрын
i haven't followed competitive ultimate since 2021 but no matter what, leo and tweek will always be the goats of ultimate to me
@jpupper428 9 ай бұрын
Leo will always be the GOAT in my heart
@stenettedavis68 9 ай бұрын
This is a sport, reaction time and muscle speed reduce over time. The ability to track small movements are also impacted over time
@jonteguy 10 ай бұрын
I am praying we get the old MKLeo vs Tweek grands.
@amazingmandrew1830 10 ай бұрын
this is the only story line Ult needs right. Leo and Tweek back on top.
@greedo194 10 ай бұрын
Them in grands at lmmm or port would be the most epic thing ever
@purplepotatoes2915 10 ай бұрын
I'm just imagining a Japanese major with a tweek vs leo grand finals.
@dingo9696 10 ай бұрын
never gonna happen lol
@kappakuppa7255 9 ай бұрын
@@dingo9696 its not impossible but they would have to be playing the best they ever have
@tropicalmonix1038 9 ай бұрын
Genuinely appreciate this one. Undeniable passion from both of these guys just talking about smash. Great conversation
@Bob.ross22 10 ай бұрын
What if you don’t need to change what if you need to change it 17:03 -🐐
@__BlacklotuS__ 4 ай бұрын
fall off? idk if that's the best title for these guys, these two are goats they'll never "fall off"
@thelordoftheweebs9501 10 ай бұрын
Two GOATS in one video? You gotta call them gogoat
@jasiahcrider6418 10 ай бұрын
Also these guys are so humble, i love when they talk they shit 😂 they deserve that ! I hate when people talk down on them like they aint pave the way for a lot of smash ultimate..
@SAMX2007 9 ай бұрын
What a nice and chill talk, these 45min went by fast
@riley9771 9 ай бұрын
I don't know when I started watching smash but I've been playing it my whole life and when I started watching it was because of your rivalry, thank you for making the smash scene so entertaining for years, you 2 are without a doubt my goats!❤
@adrianchriste6 9 ай бұрын
People need to understand these two got studied to the T. Everyone wants to beat them. Everyone will learn matchups and playstyles just to beat them.
@xjayEra 9 ай бұрын
i've always wondered how the top crop really thought about steve and this was super interesting to hear from them. i actually really liked this segment! thank you LG!
@storm7929 10 ай бұрын
Now this is goat talk
@jollyroger4970 10 ай бұрын
If leo did a food episode i would watch for sure
@darthrambo1454 10 ай бұрын
Damn that was such a beautiful podcast between goats
@EmptyHand49 10 ай бұрын
The only players that fell off are all the ones who dropped their mains for Steve
@isaacldi2643 9 ай бұрын
I hope we'll get more videos like that where it's just 2 top players or more having a free form discussion
@WHizzSSB 10 ай бұрын
Will always be top player in my eyes. Looking forward to seeing them win in the future.
@jimmycreighton4344 9 ай бұрын
To tweek: Manchego can be found in the US at most stores. Walmart, Trader Joe’s, and even Costco has it, but its not always in the most obvious spot. It pairs well with wheat thins and Fig jam.
@DGSnowolf 10 ай бұрын
I would actually like to see a top player pick up Steve. So far only newcomers picked it up besides Syrup. The char has so much untapped potential cause all the current mains are as lazy about learning his tech as everyone else is about learning the matchup. You also don't HAVE to play the char campy.
@LemonJoos 10 ай бұрын
top players want to play optimally though and the optimal way to play Steve is to camp.
@thomascarroll9707 10 ай бұрын
It sucks that Salem got himself banned cause his Steve goes WAY harder than every other Steve. I think he would run away with #1 rank if he could compete.
@DGSnowolf 10 ай бұрын
depends on the player, it just doesnt suit someones playstyle to play a certain way sometimes. There are top representives of chars that play them very differently from one another. Even the top steves play different. Onin goes for way more set ups and usually only farms enough to get enough iron and then goes in. Acola stays behind his wall all the time and keeps farming even when his item bar is full and once someone breaks through the wall he built he minecarts to the other side of the stage and makes a new wall there and repeat, he doesnt engage at all with his opponent. And neither of the two really utilize Steves immense combo potential. You could definitely play a more aggressive Steve and use the wall behind you instead of between you and your opponent.@@LemonJoos
@legrandliseurtri7495 9 ай бұрын
@@DGSnowolf That is just a straight up lie. Acola is a pretty aggressive Steve who engages with his opponents a lot. Jake is the campy one.
@DGSnowolf 9 ай бұрын
Jakemsash? the guy spaming moves at his opponent to the point random f smash was named after him?@@legrandliseurtri7495
@10rayman 10 ай бұрын
Tweek talks on a Friday baby!
@ThrusterMcBuster 9 ай бұрын
So cool to take a look back I started getting into the game at the same time these guys dominated and it’s crazy to see all that has changed
@jasiahcrider6418 10 ай бұрын
I feel like seeing tweek play roy would be crazy, they talked a lil bit about it probably would never happen tho 😂. But love to see my goats talkin, great video. Tweek got me into smash, such a good dude !
@FoxCowDog 9 ай бұрын
The logo made me think it was gyat talk took me half a second to realize it was goat talk. 😭😭😭
@wettuna1769 10 ай бұрын
lmao the title made me think this was a video by some random smash youtuber wasn't expecting a podcast with tweek and leo but that's the best outcome i coulda got from clicking on this
@keithhernandez48 7 ай бұрын
I feel like there's a lot more to it than just the meta and addition of characters that makes ultimate feel different. Online has never existed as it does in its current state. Travel is a lot more common for people now whereas back then you'd go to locals and that's it. You have talent popping up left and right simply because kids can actually get to tournaments now. And lastly ultimates characters are the most balanced of all the other games. It's not just a different era of smash it's a different era of gaming as a whole
@braisvelay1109 10 ай бұрын
there is no way they are compering tweek season to leo lol, thats so unfair
@tradingcomparisons6591 9 ай бұрын
The title of this video is so disrespectful. They paved the way for the smash scene and they will always be my favorite smash rivalry
@Erteywie 9 ай бұрын
The goats take over Japan? Luminosity should definitely get these 2 to Japan for a string of tournaments before the end of Ultimate.
@Alex-sw1fr 9 ай бұрын
I think the one thing that could help is not switching to maining steve, but playing him long enough to see things you can't do with him.. and taking advantage of that with characters you do play.
@MasterAbeer101 10 ай бұрын
The Luminosity GOATS ❤
@doom9242 9 ай бұрын
Fuckn goats 🐐 “tHeY fElL oF” -someone that was never close to the top
@kingrhoam93 10 ай бұрын
I really hope Tweek wins LMMM, I've wanted to see him win for quite a while now.
@nickrouse8426 9 ай бұрын
Dealing with tilt productively is part of what makes the difference between a gamer and a successful pro gamer. Knowing how to compartmentalize defeat in a healthy way and learn from it rather than dread it.