Lumix S5iiX FIRMWARE 2.0 // PDAF in 50fps 1080p? // Autofocus Test

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Ай бұрын

Right. Here me out! I had an idea, and I ran with it ok. I could have just deleted all this footage and moved on to the next video. BUT, I thought why not just upload it anyway. It may be of use to some people out there, who knows. So, I may not have got the results I wanted, but I DID get some results nonetheless.
Anyway, if you want to have a look at the new firmware update for the LUMIX S5iiX, and how to install it then look no further. I also test out the AutoFocus to see whether Lumix have been sneaky and added in a feature without mentioning it.
Spoiler, they don't. Worth a watch though.
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@Behnam_Moghaddam Ай бұрын

must be the best AF-parody ever! grateful you did not dismiss this one. so much fun! reminded me of the countless good old "GH5 AF update - any better"-videos love to feel old! thank you

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Thank you! I’m glad it could be used for entertainment rather than a detailed in depth professional test 🤣 I’ll leave it to Gerald Undone I think 😂

@Behnam_Moghaddam Ай бұрын

@@TheCreatorsBlock fun did not reduce the appreciation for the work and time you put in and the honesty shining through. after working "in media" for over a decade i don't know one pro who did not experience "things not going as intended" at several points in career/life - at least that's right for me :) what makes it special is having the guts to let us see all parts not just the "marketing compatible ones" and you seem to be gifted with some convincing facial expressions, too chapeau! Let's say: to me this was of real value. thank you Addendum: i learned that the contrast based AF is still better then me trying to hold focus manually when bored to death by the content (or with non-mechanical focus rings generally)

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Thank you! This is much appreciated and very kind 😊

@KillerTacos54 Ай бұрын

My S5IIX just arrived today! So excited to start using it more

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Awesome! Enjoy ☺️

@orinorio1 Ай бұрын

This is such a bad way to test the AF. 😅😅😅. Would recommend to go watch Josh Cameron video best AF sittings. He talks about what AF sitting should be used for each situation. Also Lumix did say the best Af is eye and human body sitting. Eye tracking works best for interviews or when the person still. Eye and body detection works best for someone moving about as in walking or ruining. One area works best for when there is lots of people around but you just want that one person to be in focus. Also the lens on the camera plays apart. Dont watch this video and think oh the updates didn't work

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

I think I know we can agree that this wasn’t meant to be a comprehensive review of the autofocus 😂 And I never said the update didn’t work. LUMIX never said they updated this particular aspect of the AF. I was just hoping they snuck it in there trying to brush it under the carpet. But they didn’t. So my video was meant to display how I failed to expose this. So yeh I agree, don’t watch this expecting a detailed review. Just watch it to have a laugh really. 😊

@orinorio1 Ай бұрын

@@TheCreatorsBlock have to understand that your viewers will take what you say seriously. I get what your going for as the camera conspiracy channel does the same thing. Your an influencer now so your views will influence people on weather the camera is worth it or now. Just had to point out that the AF is more then just what you have shown. Using the right modes brings out different results.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

I get what you’re saying with regards to having a responsibility to provide correct and honest information to my audience,but there’s no miss information or any type of misleading in the video. It’s not a review of the autofocus capabilities. Just me hoping one aspect of the autofocus might have been secretly updated in the hope this would bring potentially good news to the rest. But I failed. And was very honest to the fact that I failed. That’s what the video is about. Changing the modes won’t change the fact that 1080p 50fps is still CDAF. I feel if anyone gets mislead by the video it’s because they don’t watch videos all the way through. If I make a review of the full AF capabilities in the future, it will be done as comprehensively as I can. The one thing I don’t or will ever do is provide false or exaggerated information to my viewers. I will always be truthful and honest. I’m a small channel with limited resources still navigating this space. I can’t be making MKBHD style videos 😂 I do my best. 😂

@erkhe_meerik3132 Ай бұрын

You are real awesome! i joined lumix recently and im happy to find your video. i've never seen that much enjoyable comparison. can't wait next video.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it ☺️

@jcduval83 Ай бұрын

Your video is piece of art ! Love your energy ! Thank you

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you ☺️

@angryrabbitproductions1690 Ай бұрын

Good video, and good effort. Panasonic has a way to go before catching up to Sony. The A9III has scary good AF. On the plus side, the image stabilization is looking really good with the new firmware update. Especially nice to see Panasonic address the warping that occurs in the corners. That said, I think the IBIS is easier to fix. I do wish other camera manufacturers would address this issue. Keep it up.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏😊 Yeh I agree, I don’t get why Panasonic can do it so well but the big boys just can’t seem to get it right. Canon especially! Glad to hear the IBIS is better though 😊

@boomboxbaby1866 Ай бұрын

i was expecting getting a info but i got info and humor. thanks haha subscribed. i think i have to buy G9m2 or other brands.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Glad you enjoyed it! Welcome on board!

@thatvideoguy4k Ай бұрын

hehe, Tha was an entertaining video bro 🙌 Thanks

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 😊

@Raima888s Ай бұрын

Thumbs up for the comedy :D Loved it. Unfortunately it came too late. I just bought the camera 2 days ago

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Thank you! ☺️ It’s still a great camera!! Enjoy! 😊

@delysid_musicPY 7 күн бұрын

Good news, this problem has already been solved in the lumix s9, which has the same sensor as the s5ii, so all we have to do is wait for Panasonic to release the next update, definitely with 60p without any crop this is the most complete camera on the entire market

@TheCreatorsBlock 7 күн бұрын

Yeh I heard about this! Let’s hope some of these new features in the S9 make their way down (or up actually 🤣) to the S5ii(x)

@sglynnphoto Ай бұрын

Interesting video, thanks for doing this. Not a criticism just a thought I had while watching. I don’t see the jittery background that contrast based usually results in, this was always an issue I had with the older bodies. The PD may just be poorly tuned still. By chance did the update change your focus settings to be reset to default? Hopefully it gets resolved soon in way or another.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Thank you! Yeh it does seem to focus a bit smoother. To be honest it may have altered my settings because I don’t know if you noticed but after the firmware it went back to AWB and Auto ISO which was a bit of an error. I was getting too excited by the prospect of phase detect clearly 🤣

@marinrealestatephotography Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Yeah, it is strange that PDAF wouldn't beavailable at 50 / 60fps 1080p. However, I did still enjoy the video.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Thank you! ☺️ Yeh it does seem daft!

@eddieortiz3219 Ай бұрын

I just updated the firmware on my s5iix and since autofocus is very, very slow compared to how it was before, I don't know if it should be configured differently, or if the lens firmware needs to be updated

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

It may have reset some of your settings perhaps? It did that for me. You may have noticed WB and Exposure shifting after I installed the firmware because it defaulted back to auto for these annoyingly.

@theiansm Ай бұрын

This is my biggest gripe with the S5ii. I might as well didn't upgrade one of my S5 to it had I known it would be an issue for me that the PDAF only works in Fullframe 24/25fps and anything above 30 is cropped. And I think that saddest thing is that it's not even better than my old Sony A6300.

@ArkadiuszLmx Ай бұрын

focus works in 50p but slowly, which options did u have set? is there's a way to make a test with fastest settings?

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

I will probably do more tests to see which settings work best. But for this video I was simply just wanting to see quick results to confirm whether it had been updated. The settings were the same both for 25fps and 50fps and you can see the difference in how they both performed. But I still need to do more tests to find the best settings because I don’t have this camera nailed down yet.

@ArkadiuszLmx Ай бұрын

that's good, can't wait :) thanks ;)

@TechSid-hn6eg Ай бұрын

now am curious how the 4k is doing when on 4k24fps and 4k60fps that has a crop

@aubreyapplewhaite Ай бұрын

I had a GH4 and used it on manual focus all the time and that was fine at the time for what I needed but when I needed auto focus Panasonic is just unreliable. I have an FX30 now and now never about missing focus it nails it every time.

@VOKASINEMA Ай бұрын

05:04 Wkwkwkwk....Great video.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Thank you! ☺️

@EmeraldAudiovisual Ай бұрын

Why the heck were you still on 1.0 ? There's been a ton of updates between 1.0 and 2.0, that added extra features and improvements ? 1.3 already added more features to AF.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

🤣 I don’t know to be honest. I just never bothered updating it 😂

@Studiotek Ай бұрын

I don't get it... It seems like it works fine to me. Did you just want it to be faster? Did you change all of the settings for that? Am I the only one that thinks it worked fine? lol

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Yeh so in 25fps 1080p the new Phase Detect autofocus works and it works well. You can see how it just seamlessly locks on to me. Whereas 1080p 50fps has the old Contrast Detect autofocus, which works, but it hints around more and takes a while to latch on. So I was hoping they added the new phase detect in 50fps 1080p in this new firmware. But they haven’t, it focuses just the same as before. I mean don’t get me wrong, my tests weren’t the best! 🤣 But you can just tell it hasn’t been improved.

@RamonLinares Ай бұрын

I had to subscribe 😂😂😂

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Brilliant! Welcome onboard! 😊

@hmfilms3506 Ай бұрын

There's rumors about canon R5ii I'm just saying...😂 Panasonic S5ii owner Thanks for informative and great video !!

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! That sounds tempting but I think I’ll be sticking with LUMIX regardless. I have faith that they will introduce the first mirrorless with built in ND’s! 😂 Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 😊

@coin777 Ай бұрын

1080 50p in 2024 so innovative Lumix 😂

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

I know tell me about it! 😂

@Just-Nico Ай бұрын

You have it there if you want to use it, a lot of cameras still have 1080p. What I don't see is the point of the autofocus in 1080p 50 fps when you have in 4k with Phase detect autofocus...

@hamimannn Ай бұрын

While is Pakistan everyone uses 1080. Hardly anyone uses 4k lol

@Just-Nico Ай бұрын

@@hamimannn what has that to do? He doesn't look to be in Pakistan or being from Pakistan....

@hamimannn Ай бұрын

@@Just-Nico relax man, get some help

@tariqaziz6551 Ай бұрын

The second video is better than the first

@DroseMr Ай бұрын

Great video 💣💥! Im piossed .i need 5.7k 60 Raw PDAF .Thank You

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Thank you! ☺️ Ha yeh we need 12k 240fps Raw with PDAF and built in ND’s!

@KarelSlavik-videobird Ай бұрын

this is how they imagine training to escape from hunters

@avarmadillo Ай бұрын

Change your settings. Focus works, but it's slow.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Yes but is it Phase detect in 50fps 1080p? I don’t think changing the speed and sensitivity settings will change the fact it’s still contrast detect.

@2424rocket Ай бұрын

Watching your video Is proof positive that the auto focus sucks!

@dhavalpanchal522 Ай бұрын

Please set sensitivity to high.. then review it

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Yeh I need to do further tests. It wasn’t meant to be a comprehensive test though. I was just wanting to quickly see if they’d updated it really.

@Lunar_Films Ай бұрын

It’s the first thing I tested. It’s still utter gash and unreliable. They wouldn’t sneak it in anyway

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! Yeh I was hoping they’d just try and play dumb and say ‘Huh? No phase detect in 50fps? Noooo, don’t be silly it has it, trust us’

@Lunar_Films Ай бұрын

@@TheCreatorsBlock it’s a real shame. A client asked me to shoot an MMA show. Specifically asked for it to be in 50p in 1080. Embarrassing that this camera can not this without adequate auto focus

@Wildridefilms Ай бұрын

😂

@adletkassym9600 Ай бұрын

1. Not the correct way of testing it, since there are at least three separate settings that can be changed 2. IT WAS ALWAYS PDAF IN 1080p 50fps. Contrast detect autofocus flickers 3. To properly test autofocus, you will have to use the higher transition speeds, since they are the most indicative of the stickiness of AF, and its ability to follow the subject, or detect it.

@TheCreatorsBlock Ай бұрын

Ha! This isn’t a video to highlight the AF capabilities of this camera. For someone who uses 1080p 50fps 50% of the time and 1080p 25fps the other 50% of the time I can categorically say the AF does not perform equally. 50fps 1080p performs almost as bad and in the same manor as the S1 I used to own. It is Contrast Based AF. This video was me just playing around to QUICKLY test if 50fps AF had made an improvement to see if they’d snuck the update in. But it is massively obvious even in my extremely limited testing that they haven’t. I didn’t need to go any further with it. There’s no amount of setting changes that will alter the fact it’s contrast based AF in 50fps 1080p. It’s just too obviously bad.