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Luna Was Reformed Without the Mane 6 🌙 (MLP Analysis) - Sawtooth Waves

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Original Upload: February 18, 2022 by Sawtooth Waves ( / @sawtoothwaves )
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Twilight and her friends weren't Nightmare Moon's only path to redemption.
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@callumcrane241
@callumcrane241 6 ай бұрын
Discord has the power to do anything. He's literally a Chaos lord. So removing magic shouldn't be impossible.
@sergioandrescontreras5251
@sergioandrescontreras5251 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Also I love Discord he is one of my favorite characters. By the way a theory that Sawtooth should have done is whether or not Discord and Fluttershy became a couple, got married and had kids. Because that seems very likely. Fluttercord forever!!!!
@callumcrane241
@callumcrane241 6 ай бұрын
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 Yes.
@ilikewoIves
@ilikewoIves 6 ай бұрын
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 nononononnonononononononononoonononnnnononononononono
@iamBOXO
@iamBOXO 6 ай бұрын
@@ilikewoIves why? they arent related
@-Chloe-527
@-Chloe-527 2 ай бұрын
But... The magic ALWAYS needs to go somewhere so where would it go in this case?
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285 Жыл бұрын
Luna was reformed by discord.
@gfallsfanz673
@gfallsfanz673 8 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@prasoonsingh3498
@prasoonsingh3498 8 ай бұрын
But how discord was evil during that time
@TroublesomeIntrovert
@TroublesomeIntrovert 8 ай бұрын
​@@prasoonsingh3498Princess Luna getting reformed by Discord is actually quite a possibility. Discord is more to doing whatever he likes than being evil. So I can see that Discord reformed Princess Luna back just because it's fun.
@ameralikhanrayees6392
@ameralikhanrayees6392 8 ай бұрын
I
@universalsubs6935
@universalsubs6935 7 ай бұрын
​@@prasoonsingh3498more how was discord freed
@aquac8242
@aquac8242 Жыл бұрын
I think..... That nightmare moon defeated discord and realised that if she and her sister do things together will be better and thus caused her to reform
@mreganhp
@mreganhp 10 ай бұрын
Your statement here confuses me 😦😧😦😧😦😧😦
@snookerdooker471
@snookerdooker471 7 ай бұрын
Yeah wouldn’t discord just defeat nightmare moon easily also some thing had to have happened to break the connection between celestia, Luna and the elements like maybe celestia reforming Luna but trying to talk to her or maybe discord’s stone spell was always gonna eventually weaken if he sensed some fighting like the cmcs arguing the spell should have been weakened when Luna was banished but discord just needed a bit of a push to break free.
@Yoursxx
@Yoursxx 6 ай бұрын
Discord's reign was before Nightmare Moon.. someone who's a theorist clearly can't notice Celestia saying the defeat of Discord was 1000 years ago
@ilikewoIves
@ilikewoIves 6 ай бұрын
the first time the princesses fought discord they had the elements of harmony with them. this is AFTER the first fight, while luna was banished to the moon. in the main MLP timeline, luna was still banished to the moon and the main 6 had to defeat discord. with no luna, celestia was not able to defeat discord on his own. with no main 6, celestia had no choice but to bring back nightmare moon, and had no time to get the elements of harmony even after reforming nightmare moon.
@IronDroid925
@IronDroid925 3 ай бұрын
This video is about Starlight's Alternate Timelines, You are the one that clearly didn't notice
@sollezcano6803
@sollezcano6803 2 ай бұрын
@@IronDroid925 their right u dint watch
@IronDroid925
@IronDroid925 2 ай бұрын
@@sollezcano6803 What do you mean they're right?, Sawtooth was talking about the Seven Alternate Timelines Starlight created because She changed the rainboom, In This video is about the Discord Timeline and Nightmare Moon Timeline, In These Timelines, The Mane 6 never became friends
@IronDroid925
@IronDroid925 2 ай бұрын
@@sollezcano6803 I did watch and understood what Sawtooth mean because The Video is about Season 5 when Starlight Change the past multiple times, Sawtooth was theorizing on how Discord and Nightmare Moon Win in These Timelines that Starlight created, Isn't that easy to understand for any of you?
@Ana-ee8rg
@Ana-ee8rg 8 ай бұрын
0:00 intro 0:14 intro ends 1:43 2 possibilities 3:21 story 3:56 crazy theory 6:59 fun idea 7:41 outro
@user-fy6jt8rt6h
@user-fy6jt8rt6h 8 ай бұрын
TRUE 👍
@Chrisjohn112
@Chrisjohn112 5 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is so cool
@nhansen197
@nhansen197 7 ай бұрын
I think it was all Discord pulling pony's strings. Discord is omnipotent, dealing with Nightmare Moon, and Chrysalis would be a cakewalk for him. Even when Tirek took his magic Discord was still instrumental in defeating him.
@Random_person77624
@Random_person77624 4 ай бұрын
Who is watching after finding out what sawtooth waves did?
@IronDroid925
@IronDroid925 3 ай бұрын
It was an accident, kind of, Moral of the Story is don't date a minor even tho you and her like eachother, Especially when She is still busy with school
@Random_person77624
@Random_person77624 3 ай бұрын
@@IronDroid925 I know but it's still gross to think about
@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449
@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449 2 ай бұрын
The description give the basis of the controversy, but here are more details for those who want it. The basic story of what happened goes as follows (yes, you'll have to read a bit but this is a condensed version of the mountains of text they gave): A 15-year-old fan (a name I've seen is Ash) was a big fan of Sawtooth and made art and videos for him. He eventually saw them and thanked her for the art. They became friends, talking about MLP theories. He has done this with many fans and even featured some in collabs on his episodes. Eventually she confesses that she has a crush on Sawtooth (whom had just turned 19), making him feel awkward about their relationship and initially denying her feelings back. Some weeks later, the conversation came back again he came back with a "maybe if you were older" type comment which gave her hope in that they could be a couple when she was older but for now would just be friends. Over the next year or so, they would become much closer, talking more openly about things like mental health, family situations, et cetera. They were essentially online bf and gf but didn't do too much apart from roleplay and virtual hugs and kisses. Typical teenager stuff. Then her mother comes in, and she is quite abusive to Ash and threatens Sawtooth to stop talking to her. This is when both parties realised how serious this relationship could be. They didn't want to give up being friends but were willing to put themselves at distance. They would go weeks or even months without talking because of her mother's rules, but they did occasionally mail to each other (as they had done prior while sending fanart to each other). During these separations, she became even more obsessive than she was to the point that she started ignoring her studies and failing in school. On the few times they did reconvene, Sawtooth warned her to not ignore school but she ignored his warnings. By about 2019, they were barely in any contact. Her mother placed a final strict separation between them, though Ash would still text Sawtooth, even though he refused to text back because of her mother's boundaries. A point that was brought up earlier was that when she turns 18, she can make her own decisions and wouldn't have to listen to her mother anymore. When she did turn 18, Sawtooth would start returning her texts and they would officially become a couple. At this point, they began exploring a mild sexual relationship (no one was forced or pressured to do anything), but this wouldn't last too long. The relationship was immediately toxic and ended barely 6 months (I believe) after it started. Sawtooth was the one to break it off. They apparently had a momentary FWB deal but there really is no detail as to how all of that went but they were both adults at this time so it generally isn't our business but it was clear their relationship had grown sour. Then by 2022, Ash told Sawtooth that she was gonna expose him for their relationship and Sawtooth knew that if she did, he would never be trusted again because he knows how the internet is gonna take stuff like this. She got him to beg that she not come forward because it would mean the end of his channel. He would eventually accept this and stopped making videos for a while. By February, both made posts around the same time detailing their sides and Sawtooth privated his channel. She blames him for being 19 and fraternising with a 15 year-old at the time and for being the reason she did bad in school and can't go to college. I'm not even framing it, that is literally what her trauma was; that she did bad and school and blames it on him. It's obvious to me at least that this was a masterclass of a nothing burger that honestly has nothing to do with us so there was no reason they should have actively destroyed his career, but we all know how the internet is. No one can make a mistake without being caught and cancelled for it, no matter how many years have passed or how small the mistake was.
@Random_person77624
@Random_person77624 2 ай бұрын
@@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449 oh my goodness how long did that take you to type
@amiraelmenabawey7293
@amiraelmenabawey7293 2 ай бұрын
Me
@user-jz4nx3to6b
@user-jz4nx3to6b 5 ай бұрын
Luna turned into nightmare moon after Discord was turned to stone. In season 4 episode 2, Twilight first saw the time when Luna was banished to the moon and Zecora said that she needed to look further back, then she saw Discord being turned to stone.
@simonar8724
@simonar8724 3 ай бұрын
If you say that Luna was reformed in other three dimensions without the mane 6, means that Starligth stoped the sonic rainboom, and Twiligth didn't succeed in being Celestia's pupil, so it means that only 1 can do this, the one and only Celestia, so is not so riscky as it seems. She just has to do it all over again like the last time she reformed Luna, here sister.
@emnobow
@emnobow Жыл бұрын
Discords reign happened before nightmare moon was banished
@Olive-Curtis279
@Olive-Curtis279 6 ай бұрын
But this is an alternate reality from after the rain boom so it must be discords return not his first visit
@siddhianishkala4543
@siddhianishkala4543 5 ай бұрын
Clearly, you didn't watch the show.
@emnobow
@emnobow 5 ай бұрын
​@@siddhianishkala4543Clearly you didn't. If you watched the episode where the main six discover the harmony tree, Twilight drinks a potion from Zecora that shows her the past. Twilight was able to see Celestia and Luna banish discord for the first time, this would have been before luna was banished because Celestia didn't defeat him alone in the flashback. And it couldn't of happened after luna came back because that's when the main six were in possession of the elements of harmony. Celestia and Luna banished discord back when they were in possession of the elements of harmony. And then Celestia banished nightmare moon with them after.
@la7ez
@la7ez 5 ай бұрын
im pretty sure the alternate discord timeline is referring to the present if certain factors were replaced. the discord fight in the alternate timeline isnt the first fight with discord but rather the second that occurs after he breaks out the statue.
@Nyx_Moonz
@Nyx_Moonz 3 ай бұрын
@@emnobow yes but starlight stopped the Dash’s rainboom, therefore changing the future. Not the past, because the mane 6 didn’t have any effect on before. Ofc maybe the past did rely on the rainboom and the mane6 getting their cutie marks at the same time, but it just doesn’t add up
@IrisLovesCoffee
@IrisLovesCoffee 5 ай бұрын
Celestia would ve found other ponies but the main character she needed was fluttershy so there r not many ponies like fluttershy but she can manage finding a kind person if that doesn't work she can setup 6 ponies and i think luna reformed herself its like a jail thing nightmare moon was her for sometime after the period of time she'd be Luna again but if celestia finds someone kind as fluttershy this whole problem could be solved as fluttershy and discord have a great friendship no one gave him a chance but on the other hand without the main six the crystal empire is doomed thats where the other 6 ponies come they will ofc have the help of reformed discord but this is just my theory that fluttershy is a very important character if u wanna reform discord
@selemnebriceno3616
@selemnebriceno3616 2 ай бұрын
Omg imagine how hard it would be for celestia to rise the sun and the moon
@aishascharmix
@aishascharmix Жыл бұрын
Luna got reformed from discord
@Areeba-753
@Areeba-753 2 ай бұрын
Probably Four Stars helper to live like normal timeline because they know that celestia need Luna but unfortunately discord turned him into normal alicon pony again I think this is the true story
@BH-tn8sw
@BH-tn8sw 5 ай бұрын
Maybe would be fun night Momo because this call actually planted the tree of harmony when you were eating them so actually, so let’s do you have the elements of harmony with actually, this is actually before nightmare was actually real
@charmianernest1449
@charmianernest1449 Жыл бұрын
It is okay we didn't see a cozy glow timeline
@h_h4444
@h_h4444 Жыл бұрын
thats because cozy glow came way later
@mimitogami
@mimitogami Жыл бұрын
Actually…what if that last timeline was the cozy glow timeline?
@h_h4444
@h_h4444 11 ай бұрын
@@mimitogami there couldn’t have been
@mohammadayubkhan999
@mohammadayubkhan999 8 ай бұрын
​@@mimitogamiDaybreaker maybe. Everything is burnt
@stars.alignedd
@stars.alignedd 7 ай бұрын
it was because it's before cozyglow, they couldn't reveal a villain that early
@qopparune
@qopparune 6 ай бұрын
Discord can transform things remember?
@nguyendoanquy
@nguyendoanquy 2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure nightmare moon was released because she got enough power to escape just like discor and tirek
@sahiba1792
@sahiba1792 3 ай бұрын
It was from when luna and celestia tried to stop him
@Mc.DiarysShorts-le9zx
@Mc.DiarysShorts-le9zx Ай бұрын
The first time discord took over was before luna became nightmare moon, fighting discord prevented her from getting jealous of Celestia
@charlesacheampong5471
@charlesacheampong5471 8 ай бұрын
This was before Luna was night mar moon
@MyYoutubeAccount001
@MyYoutubeAccount001 7 ай бұрын
not my jaw dropping once i realized what video this was
@staceydevaney1263
@staceydevaney1263 7 ай бұрын
My idea: Luna was reformed by discord for a helper but everything went wrong and celestial reformed her to fight discord together but it went badly worng they were stuck in chaos forever but in the nightmare moon time line they won but somehow luna was corrupted once again and sends her sister away to the moon . What do you all think
@Tar_Pick_Piano
@Tar_Pick_Piano 5 ай бұрын
I miss you sawtooth
@Pie_kitty1
@Pie_kitty1 6 ай бұрын
Luna Into in to nightmoon after discord was Defeated
@Gedasher-kr2dc
@Gedasher-kr2dc Ай бұрын
5:47 season 9 spoiler that is later than episodes 1-2 that I watched already
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 11 ай бұрын
I keep repeating myself in those videos but I'll continue to, DragonTrainer201 did way more satisfying explanation as to how each timeline turned out and all his explanations are canon friendly while Sawtooth explanations are... Fanficy to say the least and he didn't bother looking at the reason that caused new timelines(either Raindbowdash or Fluttershy being affected by Starlight influence) Also still miss Sawtooth, despite bumps here and there, he still had so many good theories, and we will never see his theories because of his evil 😢 4:42 Like seriously how could NM EVER win when it was shown Celestia+Luna is WEAKER than Discord. And only thing that's stronger than Discord are elements of harmony, so either NM reforms into Luna and uses them with Celestia and wins or they both lose, NM just can't win.
@richabhalla5867
@richabhalla5867 8 ай бұрын
You love the trainer guy so much then go on watch his videos and stop hating here
@iloveowls90
@iloveowls90 7 ай бұрын
You don’t have to watch these videos at all
@ilikewoIves
@ilikewoIves 6 ай бұрын
two guys above me, he likes sawtooths videos, he is just saying that dragon trainer timeline videos SPECIFICALLY are better than sawtooths(also good theories doesn't mean that the video is more entertaining, he still likes watching the videos). (also no one can reply to this comment until march. keep the pattern of 1 reply per month going)
@cupcakess1_two
@cupcakess1_two 4 ай бұрын
Why does Discord's time line creep me out more than Night mare moon's
@anitachokotia1750
@anitachokotia1750 7 ай бұрын
I thought about it and I think that in discord univers there was not are univers it was a pareral univers were celestia was tetbracer and on the sun her evel powors are transpered tp discord and before he was good but then he Bikam bad and luna see him she relise Celestia back to earth
@AmarStelloh-zw8li
@AmarStelloh-zw8li 11 ай бұрын
Balloon is all grown up. So how could Discord rip out the power from lunar corrupthe? Only suggestion is that the element's a harmony that Discord uses the elements of harmony and took outload this corruption. And nicker and putting her back to the way she was. But also using his own magic to go. But also using his own magic to turn her into an adult back to where her sister was.
@princeedmirovillar8044
@princeedmirovillar8044 8 ай бұрын
The Six Chords
@universalsubs6935
@universalsubs6935 7 ай бұрын
Discord can do litterly anything tho his power make him awfully cocky
@universalsubs6935
@universalsubs6935 7 ай бұрын
There must be a time line ware nightmare moon never happened
@Nic0_ghost_king
@Nic0_ghost_king 3 ай бұрын
Discord simply existed first
@selemnebriceno3616
@selemnebriceno3616 2 ай бұрын
And go into dreams
@grammaSolar
@grammaSolar 2 ай бұрын
wait, wasn't discord tryna take over equestria before the rainboom? if it wasn't, wouldn't dash or flutters remember it??
@user-ck8ez4dk2k
@user-ck8ez4dk2k 2 ай бұрын
well, discord was free in a timeline with the main 6 because celestia and luna weren't connected to the elements anymore but in a timeline without the main 6 how was discord free
@brianmabusela41
@brianmabusela41 2 ай бұрын
I think the pony of Shadows freed Nightmare Moon
@user-fv3wb9lr4o
@user-fv3wb9lr4o Ай бұрын
What if luna and celestia were at the alicorn philiation and because of that they were peaceful and for a long time so luna didn't get jealous of celestia
@user-rq1ke7co4f
@user-rq1ke7co4f 6 ай бұрын
Luna was reformed by grogar
@ilikewoIves
@ilikewoIves 6 ай бұрын
you mean discord?
@Nothingisok24
@Nothingisok24 4 ай бұрын
I have a head cannon (I haven’t watched the entire show so if I’m wrong don’t kill me) Nightmare moon and Luna are diffent people, Luna is Lunas good side, and nightmare moon is the bad side again, don’t kill me if I’m completely wrong, I’m on s4.
@ZaireErnest
@ZaireErnest 7 ай бұрын
Excellent
@1philanna
@1philanna 2 ай бұрын
The burn on Queen chrysalis 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nyangjungwon2269
@nyangjungwon2269 Жыл бұрын
it's not luna it's a replica discord made to further taunt celestia
@flamingmagmafish6616
@flamingmagmafish6616 Жыл бұрын
cool idea
@summermelody7942
@summermelody7942 Жыл бұрын
Got any proof of that?
@TheGenderlessAutistic
@TheGenderlessAutistic 11 ай бұрын
I love this
@ilikewoIves
@ilikewoIves 6 ай бұрын
@@summermelody7942 DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PROOF THAT ANY THEORIE IN MLP OR ANY KIDS SHOW IS TRUE?!
@user-si4or4mu1l
@user-si4or4mu1l 8 ай бұрын
I thing Natmer was freed help of selestiya becouse you know Selestia is Twilight sparkle's teacher and meby it was one of the things to do
@PURPLEisTheBes
@PURPLEisTheBes 4 ай бұрын
Ahem the only word: GROKAR = discord NO NO NOT DISCORD GROKAR I MEAN THE REAL GROKAR AFTERALL DISCORD CONFIRMED GOROKAR WAS REAL OR ATLEAST HIS MAGIC WAS
@erikburzinski8248
@erikburzinski8248 7 ай бұрын
Maybe dr.whoves just showed nightmare who is real fear.
@taysiadavis3061
@taysiadavis3061 Ай бұрын
My alternate mane 6 would be starlight as the element of magic Trixie derpy cheerily Lightning dust and maud
@garninjapokemontv9934
@garninjapokemontv9934 6 ай бұрын
Maybe it was before.
@erikarojas4506
@erikarojas4506 3 ай бұрын
I think it was before the fight of Celestia and Luna🤔🤔🤔
@NikolaJasztal
@NikolaJasztal 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't Discord before Nightmare moon?
@MamitaGurung-vc7hj
@MamitaGurung-vc7hj 7 ай бұрын
201 3:23 3:24 3:24 3:25
@sarahterrel4724
@sarahterrel4724 8 ай бұрын
Maybe Luna Was Freed Because Celestias Spell had Worn Off I forgot How to Spell Celestias Name I'm Not sure if I spelt It right
@fangyang5107
@fangyang5107 4 ай бұрын
What if in this timeline Luna never turned into nightmare Moon?
@IronDroid925
@IronDroid925 3 ай бұрын
The Changes in those Timelines happened when the rainboom was stopped by Starlight, Meaning Luna still became Nightmare Moon since that happened before the rainboom like Tirek and Discord
@user-ws7ei4ew5t
@user-ws7ei4ew5t 4 ай бұрын
In the tirek timeline he strong like in our timeline so nightmare Moon must have been released from the moon
@user-xi2gp4fc8r
@user-xi2gp4fc8r 8 ай бұрын
Celestia Nightmare Moon escape from the Moon
@Rosiee_Rosee_
@Rosiee_Rosee_ 3 ай бұрын
She was never banished becouse discord was ruling
@dawnflower1
@dawnflower1 3 ай бұрын
what if --- she didn't;t turn into nightmare moon in all the timelines?
@abbypitta-mb4tp
@abbypitta-mb4tp 5 ай бұрын
Maybe luna became nightmare moon after dissy first deathet
@camillabendtsen1813
@camillabendtsen1813 3 ай бұрын
I dont remeber the ep What ep is it the alterner time lines
@aaravsinghsactivities1693
@aaravsinghsactivities1693 7 ай бұрын
I think in this time line luna did not turn into night mare moon
@vaidehisawant9498
@vaidehisawant9498 7 ай бұрын
Than how did rainbow dash get her cutimark
@syifabucuk9109
@syifabucuk9109 7 ай бұрын
Why on Starlight time travel Don heve discord
@CharlieGacha56
@CharlieGacha56 26 күн бұрын
Wait why wasn’t Celestia banished to the sun..
@1philanna
@1philanna 2 ай бұрын
Luna never became nightmare moon :>
@AdvithiAnoop
@AdvithiAnoop 5 ай бұрын
If discord is ruling Equestria, then the sisters would have never defeated him using the elements so Luna would have never transformed.
@-Chloe-527
@-Chloe-527 4 ай бұрын
In a world without the rainboom would the mane 6 even have the same cutie marks or magical abilities?
@staceywiseman274
@staceywiseman274 Жыл бұрын
you should reupload the video and censor yourself because you said 'one ****'
@deletedmlpvideos
@deletedmlpvideos Жыл бұрын
1: This isn't my video, this is a re-upload channel. 2: what was the word? There are many 4 letter words out there lol
@EmiStar070
@EmiStar070 Жыл бұрын
??
@AlfieTrevor4444
@AlfieTrevor4444 Жыл бұрын
Who gives a fuck
@mandeepgill9016
@mandeepgill9016 26 күн бұрын
Lol
@00-Myself-00
@00-Myself-00 Жыл бұрын
DOES NO ONE HERE KNOW THIS IS A RE UPLOAD NOT THE ACTUAL VIDEO? Sorry caps but still it’s a re upload but this isn’t the original so asking or answering questions are pointless.
@ramaaleppo8978
@ramaaleppo8978 3 ай бұрын
I did not understand anything😅😅🎉🎉
@mandeepgill9016
@mandeepgill9016 26 күн бұрын
Lol
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