LUTRA Kveik vs a TRUE LAGER | Märzen Oktoberfest Split Batch

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TheApartmentBrewer

TheApartmentBrewer

Күн бұрын

Split batch, Lutra vs Diamond Lager. Never before seen on the Apartment Brewer channel, can Lutra hold its own against a true lager yeast? This Oktoberfest, we find out.
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Recipe for 10 gallons, your efficiency may vary:
"The Captains Ration"
6.3% ABV 23 IBU
12 lb Weyermann Barke Pilsner (47.5%)
8 lb Weyermann Dark Munich (31.7%)
2 lb Weyermann Vienna (7.9%)
1.75 lb Caramunich III (6.9%)
1.5 lb Melanoidin Malt (5.9%)
Mash:
Single infusion mash at 150 F (65.5C) for 60 min
Mashout: 170F (77 C) for 15 min
Water: 16 Gallons (60 L) of spring water + 4g CaCl
Adjust mash pH to 5.4-5.6 with lactic acid or slaked lime if needed.
60 min boil
60 min - 4 oz (112g) Hallertau Mittelfrueh (4% AA)
OG: 1.058
Yeast (Split Batch):
Lutra Kveik
Lallemand Diamond Lager
(Lutra) Ferment at 95-100 F (35-38 C) for 3-5 days
(Diamond Lager) Ferment at 55-60 F (13 C) for 10-14 days, then raise to 72 F (22 C) for diacetyl rest for 3 days.
FG: 1.011
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0:00 Intro and welcome
0:25 Beer description and approach
3:02 Recipe
5:40 Brew day
9:17 Fermentation Plan
14:50 Fermentation Follow-Up
15:36 Pour and Tasting Notes
25:23 Potential Improvements
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@gunnarbech
@gunnarbech Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the apartmental authenticity :)
@benconnect1
@benconnect1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just discovered Lutra and have some arriving this week, so I’ve been watching all your Lutra videos. Great channel, great videos. Loving the lederhosen and appreciate you getting on your soapbox at the end there. Facebook groups are full of these A-holes at the moment so well done.
@andybryson3887
@andybryson3887 Жыл бұрын
Luved the way you told off the snobs at the end. Go for it!!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Glad you agreed, sometimes they get on my nerves
@vikramjitsingh4538
@vikramjitsingh4538 Жыл бұрын
many congratulations on being promoted to Cappy, another gr8 video.........the colors just lovely on these beers...........and the boot mug looks nice man.......cheers again......
@paulgroom7597
@paulgroom7597 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video, will def be adding to my brew list, cheers!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@felipesparks5267
@felipesparks5267 Жыл бұрын
Your description of the flavor is spot on for lutra as a pseudo lager. I got a small amount of citrus and very very slight tartiness too. It gets it close to a true lager but I notice the difference immediately. Still makes an excellent beer if you aren’t thinking “lager” like you said.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yup, it is a solid substitue, but not a true 1-to-1 unless you adjust for pH more deliberately.
@veigaveio
@veigaveio Жыл бұрын
I got the exact same citrus and tartness. I submited a sample for a friend as a munich helles and he made a bjcp like sheet. He got this very slight citrusy in the aroma but the taste was very clean. Score 31. Not bad for a lazy beer.
@BohumirZamecnik
@BohumirZamecnik 10 ай бұрын
Maybe it has to do with the temperature. I brewed a few batches of Bohemian pseudo-lager with Lutra. Around 30°C without control it was like lime, a bit tart and astringent. At 21°C stable it was clean and very pleasant. At 23°C with temp control it was a tiny bit fruity, but not tart. It'd like to try also higher 20's range and pressure fermentation to get a cleaner taste.
@patrickglaser1560
@patrickglaser1560 8 ай бұрын
​@@BohumirZamecnikI'd wager if you used a higher mash ph with a lutra it might finish to style.
@gerardnatale2387
@gerardnatale2387 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the promotion Steve! Thanks for the vid. Those beers look great! Cheers!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@wbsdfm
@wbsdfm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I just started fermentation on my first batch of beer using the Northern Brewers Oktoberfest Extract kit and Lutra Kveik, so this was super helpful and encouraging to see. I'm doing the primary in my basement at around 66 deg ambient temp so I'm looking forward to seeing if that makes a difference. Happy Brewing!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Congrats on starting out the hobby! Cheers!
@matt8630
@matt8630 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Captain!
@charlesjohnson5811
@charlesjohnson5811 Жыл бұрын
Love this split batch series, keep up the experimentation! Bit of a buzz on by the end of the second litre?? Slaying the haters 🤣
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
lol yeah...got a bit into it
@luketaylor8363
@luketaylor8363 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your promotion! Thank you for your service
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@glleon80517
@glleon80517 Жыл бұрын
Steve, your channel has really evolved in to the “thinking man’s beer” channel which I ❤️. This video had everything including costumes, obnoxious beer garden music and a rant at the end!😏. Drink your beer the way you like it! Cheers.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I am very glad to hear that because that's what I want it to be!
@waynebunker2071
@waynebunker2071 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed it and I continue to learn. I just recently did a similar experiment brewing 2 Kolsch recipes from Northern Brewer. For one, I used the recommended Lallamand Kolsch dry yeast (2psi pressure at 65 degrees) and the other, Lutra Kveik (12 psi fermented at 80 degrees. I just kegged the beer and had to leave town for work but after 1.5 weeks of fermentation and 2 days cold in the kegs, I did try them. The traditional yeast tasted better and the Lutra was more crisp with a lemon flavor. Both great beers for how young they are and I know they will both improve. Both good, but different, like you said. Congratulations on your Promotion! Thank you for your service!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video and conduct similar experiments of your own! Cheers!
@thomasfrank1227
@thomasfrank1227 Жыл бұрын
There was something so wonderfully different in the way you approached the tasting section until the end. You had this clarity about you. 😂 Loved it. Tom from Casino Ave Brewing. NJ.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Haha I am glad you appreciated that. Cheers!
@maltmechanic3156
@maltmechanic3156 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, loved the side by side comparison. I have brewed with Lutra quite a bit and I have noticed the tartness and citrus flavors go away if you adjust the pH by .2 or so in the mash. I forgot to do this on my recent festbier and the flavor was noticeably different than last years brew. Shoot for the higher end of the pH range and the finished beer with turn out much different. The last bit of the video was great! Keep an open mind when brewing and experimenting. Jerks LOL!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Right on, as far as I know thats the only method to compensate for the pH drop that has worked for me. Cheers!
@HOMEBREW4LIFE
@HOMEBREW4LIFE Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great topic as well! Cheers!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the superchat man!!
@slubbberdegullion
@slubbberdegullion Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very useful. Good end comments!
@shopguy64
@shopguy64 Жыл бұрын
Hey I just wanted to say thanks for all that you do and share! I am relatively new to the home brewing community and I rely upon the information of others quite a lot. Always enjoy your channel and what you have to say. I'm sorry that you have some people that just seem to want to be Nancy negatives about everything. Made me feel bad that you ended up getting a little salty towards some of those folks but I also understand it. My advice being an old guy, is who gives a s*** about what somebody else thinks as long as you're enjoying yourself and not hurting anyone. You keep carrying on doing you and I'll keep watching buddy!🍺🙂👍🏼
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@liviodasilva9799
@liviodasilva9799 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@bradrugg8705
@bradrugg8705 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Queensland, Australia and came to this video to see if I should use LUTRA to make lagers as my average temp is in the 90f. Turns out I'm your example! Thanks for the great video!
@seriomarkj
@seriomarkj Жыл бұрын
have fun brewing beer and enjoy what comes out the end...love it cheers
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yup! Cheers!
@bradygallagher1272
@bradygallagher1272 Жыл бұрын
Yah, I tried both side by side and was pretty impressed with how similar the two yeast profiles were.
@filmscorefreak
@filmscorefreak Жыл бұрын
Beautiful-looking beer..Great video. By the way, I have successfully made (fermented) very good lagers (in the middle of summer) using one of those Cool Brew insulated "bags", reinforcing it with foam planks, and a rotation of ice bottles to cool everything..very low-tech/no-tech but it worked very well.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great technique, thanks for sharing!
@kalebwatts1580
@kalebwatts1580 Жыл бұрын
Great work mate! going to Oktoberfest in Australia in bout 3 weeks. Also keen for the Belgian Quad vid!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Enjoy! Belgian quad is on its way soon, just got to finish editing!
@perrymattes4285
@perrymattes4285 Жыл бұрын
I have just been brewing for about 6 months Congrats on the promotion I think your videos are very good I have tried the kvike under pressure in a temp controlled warm environment with great results. Thanks
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Cheers and thank you! I have not fermented kveik under pressure. At that point I would just stick with a regular lager yeast under pressure.
@ukaszmacieja7093
@ukaszmacieja7093 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Good conclusions.
@jordankw
@jordankw Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love a good martzen and I’ve made both versions and I agree very slight differences.
@WinSchutten
@WinSchutten Жыл бұрын
I had youtube running in automode. But seeying you in the german outfit got me to stand up and give the video a like. Proost!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!
@rasuli4
@rasuli4 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see similar comparison between lutra kveik and novalager! 😍🍻 Already regretting that skipped märzen batch this year
@jaskats1
@jaskats1 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. We received slightly different results with a split batch of light lager = the Lutra being heavier body, less crisp, and less flavor vs S-189 and W34/70. However, we fermented the Lutra at 70F under 5 psi. Looking forward to your Festbeir results. We are doing that experiment currently as well with an Amber Lager (low and slow VS 64F with 14 psi). Cheers for experimentation!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
That is interesting! I think fermenting the Lutra a bit slower and cooler, or under pressure, would probably have that effect. But at that point, why not just use plain old lager yeast under pressure? Hope your experiment turns out well!
@jaskats1
@jaskats1 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer That is an excellent point.
@HopsANDgnarly
@HopsANDgnarly Жыл бұрын
Awesome color! And even better outfit🙌🏼🍻 Congratulations on the promotion!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@guitarmike4ever
@guitarmike4ever Жыл бұрын
Just did a Lutra Marzen with one of my recipes. I've done a Southern German Lager WLP838 under pressure and most of the time Lalbrew Nottingham. You nailed it, 100 percent - Lutra with Marzen - it's a great beer! It's not the exact style of a Marzen with lager yeast, but darn close and I really enjoy it. I don't want to dedicate my kegerator (or buy another) to make it sit at 50F for months with a true lager. Call me a lazy impatient American, I really don't care -😂- Thanks man. Your channel is a great inspiration! Most importantly - 🍻- and BTW, similar experience, grain to keg in 6 days and it's great.😀
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Cheers! Glad it worked out so well for you!
@drp2007
@drp2007 Жыл бұрын
Awesome side by side, was thinking of doing a Kviek yeast for my Marzen, think I want to stay traditional.
@shagenefu
@shagenefu Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to giving this recipe a go. I'm taking your notes to heart and just going the lager route. I'm not in a super rush and the complexity is what I want! Just wanted to make sure you realized, you said FOUR OUNCES of Calcium Chloride instead of grams :) Pretty sure this thing would taste like Count CHALK-ula if you used that much!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Oof, yeah that was a bit of a slip of the tongue there haha
@dominic_a
@dominic_a Жыл бұрын
In summer I like to use mangrove jacks kveik to brew cider and mead at warmer temps. It will produce more of what's been described as a "zing" or acidic fruity flavor if I don't adjust my acid blend and add a little potassium carbonate. It would be interesting to see your experiment again with some adjustments made to the wart that you add the kveik to.
@jham2015
@jham2015 Жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah Steve! Congrats on the promotion! Homebrew is what you want it to be!
@Schikitar
@Schikitar Жыл бұрын
I made a dark lager with Lutra recently, served it at a party we had and wow, it was a big hit! I don't typically drink lagers but if I was brewing for the masses again who do I'll definitely be using Lutra again, it's amazingly clean and quick. Anyway, your video inspired me to brew with Lutra, to brew a style I otherwise wouldn't have, thanks! 🍺👍
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@mustyditch4703
@mustyditch4703 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Captain!!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kenrinc
@kenrinc Жыл бұрын
Great vid bud. Think about this; I brewed a British bitter that I wanted on tap for thanksgiving last year and I only had 7 days. Not a problem. Lutra.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
nice!
@christianm1782
@christianm1782 Жыл бұрын
Seemed like you were feeling the beer a little bit by the end of the video. Lol
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
lol maybe a bit
@poorasslawstudent
@poorasslawstudent Жыл бұрын
In these comparison tips videos I'd really like to see some blind taste testing by yourself and even some of your friends and family.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I'll keep that in mind!
@SchwarbageTruck
@SchwarbageTruck Жыл бұрын
I really love this video, as someone who made a so-so marzen that lagered the end of summer and thought about secretly whipping up another batch with Lutra to hide my failure. That said, I've been wondering: would you ever consider adding your improvement commentary to the actual recipe listed to the description? I've followed some of your techniques and recipes, but frantically rewatched over and over to make sure I didn't miss anything on brewday. In fact I've found my two most common searches on brewdays are "hydrometer temperature correction" and "TheAppartmentBrewer (insert style)"
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support and I'm glad you've enjoyed! I keep the recipes in the description as the same because it gives people the freedom to make their own decisions about whether they want to change it or not. My taste preferences are not the same as everyone else.
@SimonBorg
@SimonBorg Жыл бұрын
Definitely gets very warm here in Melbourne, Australia for a good 6 months of the year. The other 6 months are great for producing classic lagers. I just love the idea of being able to knock out a decent lager that is more drinkable in the warmer months. Funny that you called out Michael James - google his name and a few "interesting" comments of his come up (though, he seems to have deleted some from youtube). And he is exactly the type of person you describe...like you said: what does it matter? At the end of the day, we're making beer. Who cares what definitions it falls under.
@dominic_a
@dominic_a Жыл бұрын
Living in Hawaii and not having AC, I loved using kveik.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@affalada6868
@affalada6868 10 ай бұрын
Congrats on your promotion
@jamesw.anderson2846
@jamesw.anderson2846 Жыл бұрын
Congrat's on the promotion Steve ! But better yet I hope You and Your Wife are blessed with a healthy baby when She comes.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@ronnyskaar3737
@ronnyskaar3737 Жыл бұрын
Great video as allways. I love a malty lager, and will try it with lutra. Thanks. Horrible music though 😉. Greetings from Bergen.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the superchat!! Glad you enjoyed the video, even if for the unending oompah music haha
@Peter-Southern-Victoria-Aust
@Peter-Southern-Victoria-Aust Жыл бұрын
I like to make Oktoberfest in April because that is mid Autumn down here as it begins getting colder, mid spring here still winterish like, I love the red color of your beer too, always wanted to get that right tone of red, also I ferment all lagers under pressure now because I'm inpatient 🍺
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I'm very happy with the color too, sometimes its tough to get the right shade - very easy to go on the orange or brown side instead. Cheers!
@cooperberkley9089
@cooperberkley9089 Жыл бұрын
Have been pitching on top of a lutra yeast cake for a couple batches now. I was waiting for the mention of lower end pH. It doesn't make for a bad beer but it is certainly a big enough difference that I would still lager a beer for the different character.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yep, a little annoyance but its not too hard to fix in the brewing process, just have to adjust the mash pH up a bit
@brewing8094
@brewing8094 Жыл бұрын
Great video, expirement I wanted to see to compare Lutra with a triditional Lager yeast 🍺👌. I'm about to brew with Lutra and some Tettnang and Hallertau Mittlfur hops.🍺👌.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@tuxkilla615
@tuxkilla615 9 ай бұрын
My wife and I made this recipe for Ofest this year and it was insanely good with the hochkurz method. We used 34/70 at 65 degrees under 10PSI and it came out exactly how a marzen should taste IMO.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad that it turned out so good!
@scoobtoober2975
@scoobtoober2975 Жыл бұрын
I preffer to wet mill. Just 100grams of water per 10 pounds of grain. Spray on and mix whole grain. Mix well. Let sit a few min. Less dust and butt dyno says it keeps husk more intact for better run off. BIAB here. Nice breakdown
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@jameskocks4734
@jameskocks4734 Жыл бұрын
damn i just ordered this yeast and cant wait to make my mocktoberfest! cheers ahem i meant prost!
@patrickglaser1560
@patrickglaser1560 2 ай бұрын
I have a short Circuited system, but still respect the CH method of brewing
@JonasWeckschmied
@JonasWeckschmied Жыл бұрын
Great video! Btw, Vienna malt is almost always just a mix of Pilsner and Munich malt (I know that this is true for Weyermann)
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I forget that routinely
@TheDraughtLine
@TheDraughtLine Жыл бұрын
never heard of that yeast (im still a newb) but maybe a good excuse to brew to "try a new yeast for educational purposes" hehe This is one of my personal favorite styles of beer. gonna try the recipe when i get a chance
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Give it a go!
@jrtoth1
@jrtoth1 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos! Any reason you don't use a hop basket when adding them to the boil? I use it to help with clarity, but I have not experimented to see if it even makes a difference.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I just started not using it, but it really makes a big difference in hop character. I removed the bazooka screen and whirlpool the hops and trub before chilling. It works really well!
@jrtoth1
@jrtoth1 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer thanks dude. I may give it a go on my next beer. I'm excited to try my Oktoberfest that I kegged two days ago!
@1861313
@1861313 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to your new rank! Also want to ask about melanoidin malt is 5% not to much? Newer used it but I want to try out in a pale lager ( to mimic the decoction mashing ) and I hear it can be overpowering real quick. And its better to keep it around 2-3% in pale beers.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
You might want to check out my festbier video to answer that question, went up to 8%. I think 5% is perfectly fine in anything pale, but you can go up to 10% in something very strong, dark and malty.
@dannyarcher6163
@dannyarcher6163 Жыл бұрын
Please do a tutorial on how you get such a great pour from your keggerator!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Don't over carbonate your beer haha!
@pv4669
@pv4669 Жыл бұрын
A fine video, a great American!
@giroirtj20001
@giroirtj20001 9 ай бұрын
While I understand the additional challenges, it would be interesting to do the same thing but wait to brew a second batch for the kveik yeast and brew it as you normally would.
@JEEPEASYXJ
@JEEPEASYXJ Жыл бұрын
Best part of the video was the "Don't be a dick" rant!! Haha great information as always, thanks for sharing! Congrats on Captain btw thanks for serving!!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you!
@hunterhenderson9721
@hunterhenderson9721 Жыл бұрын
@TheApartmentBrewer Do you lager on or off yeast? I’m about to do my first lager in my Spike CF5. Should I pull the yeast once primary fermentation is completed or just leave it be until ready to be kegged
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Off yeast. I actually do my "lagering" in the keg though
@joshbarr6390
@joshbarr6390 Жыл бұрын
I've made an octoberfest style beer using lutra. Bottled just 2 days ago. Now I'm impatiently waiting for it to condition.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Nice! You'll be drinking it in no time!
@tman9338
@tman9338 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison Baby Braj!! Your thoughts on difference in taste for Lutra batch using pressure fermenter?? I’m leaning towards 10G pressure fermentation batch.
@vijayramachandran3559
@vijayramachandran3559 Жыл бұрын
I ferment lutra slightly colder - 27° c or so, and under pressure. I can't detect any citrus, it's as clean as a lager yeast
@tman9338
@tman9338 Жыл бұрын
@@vijayramachandran3559 fantastic!! Brewing a10G batch this weekend!!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Haven't tried it under pressure actually, but should be interesting to see if there is a difference.
@thirstbuster78
@thirstbuster78 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Would you mind sharing which ph pen you use? I got an amazon one for $20 and its so unreliably bad... thanks!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I use the apera ph60. It's worth it
@vikramjitsingh4538
@vikramjitsingh4538 Жыл бұрын
just wondering Steve, have you used S 23 Saflager by fermentis, any thoughts?
@BrewBrosUK
@BrewBrosUK Ай бұрын
Michael James 😂😂😂😂 that’s hilarious! He used to haunt our comments section too but we haven’t seen him for a while! He probably gave up on moonshiners like us…
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Ай бұрын
He's been awfully quiet!
@giulianopizzo2860
@giulianopizzo2860 Жыл бұрын
After watching this, it makes me think that maybe I should have checked my final PH of a neipa I made using Voss Kveik. I thought it was so odd that it finished a little tart/saison-e. This whole time I was thinking it was the voss kveik because its technically a Norweigen strain. But maybe.... it could have been the PH all along. Thanks for sharing your honest findings. This makes me want to brew up a Marzen or festbier right now (....but not lager it for 6 months).
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Sounds plausible! Dry hopping heavily would have raised the pH at the end, depending on how many dry hops you added, but it may not have been enough
@dougmate2378
@dougmate2378 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the promotion Capt.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dougmate2378
@dougmate2378 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer your welcome sir. I did have a question about step mashing. Have you made a video, or do you know of anyone that has a video or guidance on how to step mash? I'm still new to brewing and I'm learning a ton from your videos, and the brajlord CH. 🤙🍻
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I haven't yet but you know, thats a really good topic to break down. If you're new to brewing I would really recommend sticking to single temperature mashing though since it's a lot easier to control and you can easily get great beer out of it. Step mashing requires an electric system, boiling water Infusion or just very fine tuned heat sources. It's kinda tough to do at first.
@dougmate2378
@dougmate2378 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer Copy that! I appreciate it sir. Again thank you for the videos, 🤙🍻
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Anytime!
@jtc95
@jtc95 9 ай бұрын
Pulling that 20 gallon basket is rough lol
@Dystopian63
@Dystopian63 Жыл бұрын
Thats right, punk rock that shit...DIY. Good vid
@OutOfBodyGaming
@OutOfBodyGaming 5 күн бұрын
I'll be giving this recipe a shot this weekend, im brewimg on a brewzilla gen 4. Was curious, my local homwbrew store doesn't have any if the "barke" variety, would regular be okay?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Күн бұрын
Yes, that's fine. Happy brewing!
@scoobtoober2975
@scoobtoober2975 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the lager yeast is big glycerol producer. Mouthfeel thing. Then the pH too The zymurgy breakdown of lutra, i think it was. Said they didn't preff lutra in general, hot or cold ferment. I've used lallamand voss dry 6 times. Pitch at 95, ferm at 90 ish. Flavors are clean, a bit fruity or light estery. Hops shine and finish gets out of the way fast. Pitch 2 grams in 5 gallons at 95 1.055 or less. Works every time for me. Starts in 8 to 12 hours, bubbling away. Great comparison
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Interesting point, and I think you are certainly right!
@nrhurley117
@nrhurley117 Жыл бұрын
That got…I felt like you were a little upset there at the end. Ignore the trolls, they conditioned themselves to seek attention by dragging everyone else down. As the philosopher CH once said, “You do you; live your life.”
@paulschroeter4987
@paulschroeter4987 4 ай бұрын
the wife and i recently had a paulaner oktoberfest bier and she really loved it and so did i. so scratch the kolsch idea i was going to make ... jeeze. i already have the ingredients for this beer but i dont have hallertau hops on hand. i do have is savinjski and cluster only. what do you think? bad idea?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer 4 ай бұрын
Cluster probably isn't a bad sub!
@afhostie
@afhostie 10 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to see whether using pressure fermentation would suppress that citrus from the lutra
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if that worked, but at that point you might as well use a regular lager yeast under pressure
@krisiglehart3061
@krisiglehart3061 Жыл бұрын
Amen on you last comment Sir.
@deckerhand12
@deckerhand12 Жыл бұрын
I just got Lutra dry yeast for a stout I am going to see if I like it better then us05. I still my go with a more traditional British yeast. Are you doing a full volume mashing ? I use that method all the
@cooperberkley9089
@cooperberkley9089 Жыл бұрын
Just remember that your finishing pH will be lower with lutra. Likely the darker grains will start you off with a low pH so if you're not careful you'll end up with a more harsh acrid flavored beer.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yup, try to hit somewhere around the 5.6 area in the mash if you can.
@deckerhand12
@deckerhand12 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer thank you both. Since I also wanted to try that with my golden promise smash, and they are sold out. I am saving the Lutra for the smash and order there 016 British ale yeast it’s a local place so it’s order on line pick up day before to get a yeast starter going. I am going to try Denny Kongs shaken, not stirred method.
@derekmcwilliams5821
@derekmcwilliams5821 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Captain 🫡
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thedon98677
@thedon98677 Жыл бұрын
Oh man you need to upgrade to a double pulley system. Makes lifting the grains up totally effortless. Even for a 10 gallon batch.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know haha. eventually. I am VERY limited on overhead space though
@theferalpaladin4350
@theferalpaladin4350 Жыл бұрын
Tried Lutra for lagers, super tough yeast, very quick turn around time, but even with gelatin fining and lower ferm temps it added too much flavor. I let my Lutra batch age for around 2 months after bottle conditioning and the flavor greatly improved. I think the yeast is a bit more bold, a little less delicate, and I would recommend some filtration system when kegging or bottling to minimize trub. I used cbc-1 bottling yeast (killer strain) and even with that the character remained. Lutra is cleaner than Espe kveik(lychee flavor and not in a natural or good way) and I enjoyed lutra, just not the same as a lager, I have a very sensitive palette to tasting yeast. Lagers are just cleaner and more enjoyable. I could have 2 12 oz lutras and be good... I could have 3 Mas lagers and be good.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Time certainly helps everything!
@user-dc8uz5lb8l
@user-dc8uz5lb8l 4 ай бұрын
Like the videos. Put on your dress blues
@MrDgmiller
@MrDgmiller Жыл бұрын
Have you used lutra around 70°f? If so how was it?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I have not, but I assume it would probably end up cleaner
@slubbberdegullion
@slubbberdegullion Жыл бұрын
At 16 minutes, tell me, do you have two left hands?
@TrizzaW
@TrizzaW Жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoy split batch yeast comparisons. I just bought another keg and was pondering what to fill it with, I think a kveik Oktoberfest beer is just the ticket :) Thanks for the inspiration!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Enjoy and thanks for watching!
@audleybrewco
@audleybrewco Жыл бұрын
BAVARIAN! Hahaha. I don't know why it tickled me so much the way you kept saying Bavarian. Another great video. Your new outdoor space looks lovely. Congratulations on the promotion Sir! Loving the glassware too, I love the darker color of these beers. Will stick this on the list for next season. When you compare your lutra to the diamond.... do you think if you actually lagered the lutra it would make something even closer? Excellent German pronunciation too btw. Keep up the good work. One of my favourite channels.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! After many weeks lagering in the keg I actually have found the Lutra batch to drift further and further from the flavor of the lager, which is remaining consistent.
@suwirwong
@suwirwong 3 ай бұрын
You should have leave the clarifying to the yeast instead of chems when comparing yeasts.
@romanchvartatskyy7044
@romanchvartatskyy7044 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos man! Keep doing what you do!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JamesHunter55
@JamesHunter55 Жыл бұрын
How did you keep the Kevik batch at 95F for 3 days?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Heating pad on the fermenter
@jdmlong
@jdmlong Жыл бұрын
By the way, if you put out a "Let's Go In For Mouthfeel" t-shirt, I would buy the bleep out of that thing
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@ElementaryBrewingCo
@ElementaryBrewingCo Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the promotion Steve!!! Great looking beers too, love Märzen!!!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! It's my favorite time of year for that reason!
@Will-jd2br
@Will-jd2br Жыл бұрын
Do you have to pay Iron Maiden royalties for use of their font on your merch😆?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Hopefully not!
@jamessparks5236
@jamessparks5236 Жыл бұрын
How do you think a Fest bier would do with Lutra ? Versus Wy 2633. I'm under pressure with 2633 for the second time and got a Diayctle bomb each time so far. After 10 days.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Could be good, just mind the pH drop!
@jamessparks5236
@jamessparks5236 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer This must be why I haven't been successful at a fest bier, I haven't been adjusting/monitoring ph in any of brew. Didn't you do a Video on that?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
@@jamessparks5236 I haven't done a dedicated pH video, but I have mentioned it in a few videos. If you check out my 10 things that make brewing easier video I mention a pH meter and why that has been a gamechanger
@jamessparks5236
@jamessparks5236 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer Thanks fellow New Englander! Your videos have really helped me out! I have only been at it for 2 years now and going strong
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
@@jamessparks5236 anytime!
@thebird36
@thebird36 Жыл бұрын
similar to mine! except I like to be super traditional and do at least 50% munich malt. 56.8% Munich II 17.5% Barke Pils 4.4% Carapils 3.8% Acid Malt 21.8-24 IBU (Did magnum at 60min this year) Usually do HMF (Usually like Bayern Lager OYL 114, but did lutra this year) Also added about 2% melanoidin this year to try it out and it's too much melanoidin (melanoidins from the munich 2 and melanoidin malt) and gives an odd flavor at the end of the sip. So will not do that this next year
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Nice! I probably would have been happy with a >50% munich recipe. I know that flavor you are talking about, its a bit weird.
@SchwarbageTruck
@SchwarbageTruck Жыл бұрын
How would you describe this odd flavor? I brewed a marzen this year that was actually pretty good until the very end, when it became kind of weird. I've had a hard time narrowing off flavors down, and have been considering if "too much melanoidin" was one of them.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
@@SchwarbageTruck heavy. Very filling and extremely bready, but with a tinge of burnt caramel as well
@thebird36
@thebird36 Жыл бұрын
@@SchwarbageTruck what was your recipe? and it's kind of like too much maltiness to the flavor.
@TheBruSho
@TheBruSho Жыл бұрын
Love the splatch experiment! Prost Steve, congrats on the promotion!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Thank you Trent! I appreciate it!
@MiggyManMike
@MiggyManMike Жыл бұрын
My word, you have two left hands! :p
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
shhhhh silly editing mistakes haha
@oneoeightales2772
@oneoeightales2772 Жыл бұрын
I've pretty much vowed not to use kveik for anything not demanding citrus character. Made a NZ pils that did well in a kveik contest, a WCIPA and a few pale ales. My porters, stouts and fests just haven't been up to what I want from those styles. Always design my beers from the yeast-back to the malt and hops.
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
That's not a bad idea overall, I think it can be cleaner when you adjust the mash pH up a bit.
@oneoeightales2772
@oneoeightales2772 Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer Definitely will try that next time I use the yeast, especially if I try to attempt another pseudo lager. I don't temp control and am a geek and made a whole spreadsheet of yeasts that I can ferment with that are in the 75+ degrees to make my whole process easier. My basement can get into the 80s in the summer. Thankfully within the last 2 weeks with the rain and fall weather I'm back down to 68F, so Kveik season may be over for now.
@GarrysGarcia
@GarrysGarcia Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make a fake lager with Kveik VOSS?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
Yep, just ferment it in the 70s F
@GarrysGarcia
@GarrysGarcia Жыл бұрын
@@TheApartmentBrewer very thanks!
@torbenespenhain2584
@torbenespenhain2584 Жыл бұрын
The Lutra Omega is described by Omega to have optimal "Lager" result at 20-22 C. You used a higher temperature. Have you tried at 20-22 C. ?
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it that low, but Omega suggests pitching at 90 F (32 C)
@dustinlight4716
@dustinlight4716 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to do a good split batch comparison. Thank you!
@TheApartmentBrewer
@TheApartmentBrewer Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
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