M1 MacBook Pro and Air review: Apple delivers
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Күн бұрынApple has updated three Mac with its own M1 processors: the Macbook Air, the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro, and the Mac mini. Will Intel-based apps run? Will they be fast? Will they live up to Apple's battery life claims? Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn have a thousand questions, and almost all of them have been answered.
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@TheVerge 3 жыл бұрын
Has Apple done enough to help you trust its all new processors?
@zaneearldufour 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting on people to install + test Linux distros
@timelinebreaking6703 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Diwali to all hardworking the verge employees
@sungsubeck 3 жыл бұрын
Is it overheated when you edit videos?
@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 3 жыл бұрын
Selling a few old lenses to Adorama as we speak towards a M1 MacBook Pro.. We shall see...
@eronan03 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Gen1 is a big no for me. M2, though? Sure.
@iamsathvik 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think people actually understand how “RIDICULOUS“ this actually is.. a x86 app running with translated software and performing better than in a native system is !CRAZY! 🤯
@sarthak.shrivastava 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is really impressive stuff!
@aritradattagupta9181 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This should be talkd about more. It's just ridiculous that non-native transpiled apps are performing better than they perform on x86 chips.
@ahmadshiddiqn 3 жыл бұрын
And that is how apple beats microsoft on arm chip race... this first gen arm chip already blew everything away unlike what happened to Surface Pro X last year
@USNEM 3 жыл бұрын
The only crazy thing here is that 720p camera 😂
@AustinRoss 3 жыл бұрын
@@USNEM Google used the same camera in the Pixel for 4 years... and just updated it with software... no reason to think that Apple can't do some of that here...
@mjmkevin 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t get hot? So I’m supposed to pay for a Macbook AND heating now??
@GTAandApplechannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@srgb5594 pay for a heater
@insanitylol 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, it doesn’t get hot? Why you want a laptop on your lap that burns?
@HogRider420 3 жыл бұрын
@@insanitylol it's a joke....
@Ryan_Schlutz 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.... I needed that.
@_roninx996_8 3 жыл бұрын
Buy laptop coolpad😉
@shubi454 3 жыл бұрын
RIP anyone who just purchased an older low end mac
@Anthony-sg3bp 3 жыл бұрын
Return it maybe
@Superknullisch 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say.. poor souls that choose a mac in the first place, M1 chip or not.. Read my reply to "Anthony Jiang"..
@princesidon 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a MacBook Pro right before the transition because I wanted to have Windows. I don’t regret it.
@LouieAblett 3 жыл бұрын
@@princesidon I think I've found intel's only customer base moving into 2021
@middleman3165 3 жыл бұрын
Meh, not really. I have the 2020 Air but couldn’t have waited until now to get the new one.
@monusingh3719 3 жыл бұрын
Apple was just trying to be humble towards intel at the presentation for the sake of good old days.🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@screenwiz3718 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@Tatalino511 3 жыл бұрын
Agree..
@PichReachsey 3 жыл бұрын
They try to keep sell Mac with intel haha
@ivettesmith12 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think people actually understand how “RIDICULOUS “ this actually is.. an x86 app running with translated software and performing better than in a native system is !CRAZY! 🤯
@leftydiscord 3 жыл бұрын
Adding a touchscreen would add 9,999 premium to the price. They just making a breakthrough charging the same for m1 from intel. So why would they want to rush everything? Adding another trillion annually is what they do.
@robsmith5434 3 жыл бұрын
What is crazy is that this is the weakest chip Apple will ever make for a laptop. Next year’s 16 inch MacBook Pro is going to be a BEAST.
@derekhsieh8713 3 жыл бұрын
@Chrono they’re not gonna make a less powerful chip in a more expensive computer
@srgb5594 3 жыл бұрын
@Chrono we all know that already.
@huntermeyer4972 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, this is fantastic
@insanitylol 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that 16 inch MacBook will be much difference Maybe a m1x and ofc that 16 inch screen Probably like 5 - 20% better performance on an m1x
@insanitylol 3 жыл бұрын
But let’s hope that 2021 MacBooks get touchscreen
@giosanpedro 3 жыл бұрын
Now super excited for the 16-inch. It's probably gonna scream, quietly.
@jatilq 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine less than a year ago and I'm curious about the upgrade, but I'm not looking forward to trying to max out the ram.
@Dr.Zubair 3 жыл бұрын
Hi rich people's🖐️🖐️🖐️
@Anderson_Hwang 3 жыл бұрын
There are rumors that Apple will refresh its 16 inch MBP with 10th gen intel CPUs for one last time before transitioning to Apple Silicon. Don't get your hopes up too soon
@neerajk2901 3 жыл бұрын
nice im poor , good for you XD
@derickrcruz 3 жыл бұрын
ay! love your vids man!
@ephphatha230 3 жыл бұрын
Sitting on a park bench hunched over a laptop looks cool but is actually really uncomfortable.
@nothumanlol 3 жыл бұрын
And will damage your spine
@caynancrenshaw 3 жыл бұрын
lol... i see you have,, Alice In Chains - Black gives Way To Blue.... as your profile, whats your favorite song off the album
@sparcx86channel42 3 жыл бұрын
And dangerous
@nutbastard 3 жыл бұрын
And also it actually doesn't look cool. It looks douchey.
@heritageimaging7768 3 жыл бұрын
@@nutbastard Being the only guy in the city and wearing a mask looks douchey.
@thuhienle1814 3 жыл бұрын
These solved almost every problems of arm chips in computers Surface Pro X has left the chat
@J-Unit90 3 жыл бұрын
Just chiming in to say the team at The Verge is doing an absolutely wonderful job with these reviews in spite of 2020 and all the challenges of wfh. The format of this review is super clever.
@TheVerge 3 жыл бұрын
🙏 Thank you Jordan!
@emil5911 3 жыл бұрын
I approve of this message!
@Switching2Tech 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Amazingly slick editing and production, Verge team! Also helped persuade me to buy the MacBook Air (thank you!). QQ - Is the minus 100 nits brightness difference noticeable though?
@TheMoni7548 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't like their iPhone PRO review as no Profeatue was put to the test except the camera not the LiDAR this review is great and seems genuine
@MrEnterainment 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree... 💯!!
@Peahnuts 3 жыл бұрын
“Chrom pushes the battery DOWN to 8-10 hrs” ok Apple weren’t kidding when they said the battery life improved. Imagine getting 8-10hrs using chrome on any other Mac/windows laptop 😂
@nullsurfer7331 3 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if Chrome gets optimized for M1. This thing could fly.
@tanzen1020 3 жыл бұрын
@@nullsurfer7331 I could use chrome all day without charging, I'm sold
@kannamustafa6043 3 жыл бұрын
With a ryzen 4000U laptop you can
@paulwin9036 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was standard? Atleast on the Itel 11th gen and Ryzen 4000 series laptops.
@0741921 3 жыл бұрын
@@nullsurfer7331 chrome will still find a way to still be a resource hog
@jayanthkumar7964 3 жыл бұрын
3 years in, Rosetta 2 is deprecated, Universal apps are just apps. M3 screams over and above the competition with so much more space and resources for computing.
@agraciotti 3 жыл бұрын
2:59 I swear I thought the bike guy would steal your laptop. Lol
@mennybrown4109 3 жыл бұрын
"Apple chips" sounds like a dish from a chic restaurant in Beverly hills
@bw4589 3 жыл бұрын
The price tag goes well with Beverly Hills lol 🤣
@bradhaines3142 3 жыл бұрын
@@bw4589 its apple, i wouldnt expect anything less. hell its the same prices as before so really nothing special
@srgb5594 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradhaines3142 nothing special? I wish there were brain implants available.
@nuloom 3 жыл бұрын
@@srgb5594 yeah, i suppose it’s nothing out of ordinary in terms of mac pricing, but certainly something extraordinary in terms of mac value.
@bw4589 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave Daniels no one’s hating. I’m an Apple user myself, we were just joking. Chill bro
@KarlRock 3 жыл бұрын
Seems great. Really keen to know how the 16" Pro performs with video editing when they update that.
@teamenderhd7282 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully it’s pretty good!
@gurudarshan2635 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Karl!
@duttaoindril 3 жыл бұрын
M1X
@uncommonname1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@VaibhavAgrawal01 Kyu bheek mang ke india ki image kharaab karta hai be ? Aise chutiyapa karke kya milta be. Kisi ke bhi man me jhaat bhar bhi izzat nahi badhti tereliye jab koi famous youtuber tere comment like karta hai to ulta hazaaro logo ki galiya khayega aise chaale karne se.
@VaibhavAgrawal01 3 жыл бұрын
@@uncommonname1234 Srry bhai , thanks for the advice though👍👍
@felipefariast 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are too good! Been watching these reviews for years now, Nilay is amazing and Dieter is also great and add a new point of view, which is always welcome.
@GarrettWease 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Love the team up. Can’t wait to see how intense video editing holds up on the inevitable 16” MBP M1.
@jhyns 3 жыл бұрын
3:34 these shots of the big sur wallpaper reflecting on the keyboard and space grey aluminum are stunning
@Sooper35 3 жыл бұрын
That side by side review and the way they look at each other when one is talking is next level production quality.
@jqueenchannel 3 жыл бұрын
yeap like it,
@miket9724 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE that you guys did this review together. I don’t even want a new laptop let alone a MacBook but this video was fantastic and just fun to watch!
@kameranneises5080 3 жыл бұрын
Great duet you guys! Such a quality review with some personality
@nkozyechichikuluma669 3 жыл бұрын
"more processed version of bad" LMFAO.
@ne0tic 3 жыл бұрын
Apple Silicon in Mac's looks really promising! This change could be huge, not just for Apple, but the whole industry in the coming years.
@xOogieBoogie3x 3 жыл бұрын
They're still grossly inferior to AMD's Zen 3 CPUs though, so no, not at all. The Verge are just known Apple fanboys.
@hunterherobrine5209 3 жыл бұрын
@@xOogieBoogie3x AMD doesn't have Zen 3 laptop CPUs...
@ne0tic 3 жыл бұрын
@@xOogieBoogie3x They should be worse than ZEN 3, if it weren’t, the M1 chip would be insane. Keep in mind that it will be the lowest end Apple Silicon chip for Mac’s so. Still tho, it got a more powerful single-core or at least it matches the single-core scores of ZEN 3 and this is while using 1/5 of the wattage. Apple are off to a very good start with Apple Silicon, now we just need to wait and see if they can scale it up to compete with AMD in desktop as well. If you don’t think the M1 chip is looking impressive than I don’t know what kind of insane performance gains you are expecting.
@xOogieBoogie3x 3 жыл бұрын
@@hunterherobrine5209 I meant Zen 2+ The M1 is comparable to a 4000 series Ryzen 5.
@DonScarace 3 жыл бұрын
@@xOogieBoogie3x Based on what? How do you compare them?
@brutusgallicus3568 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is the big jump I've been waiting for. I ordered a Macbook Pro today. I might have gotten a MacBook Air if I had spent more time looking them both over, but then maybe not. Better cooling is not a small thing because you never know, you know.
@mohammadehtesham4576 3 жыл бұрын
When both say "Here we go" and the ads pop out!
@dksa8085 3 жыл бұрын
Guys- This editing and camera work is incredible, and its still legitimately informative. Truly well done.
@Arnav_Saxena 3 жыл бұрын
At Apple HQ: Intern : should we also update webcam on MacBook Air ? Rest : Nah, it’s for next year refresh !😎
@jeffkung5088 3 жыл бұрын
They been having that convo for 10 years now
@alexopokuagyemang7191 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jeremiahfink5440 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffkung5088 they can easily come out with a laptop that does everything everyone wants to do but then there would be no reason for people to upgrade for a long time
@jeffkung5088 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahfink5440 But I’m not exactly gonna upgrade for a WebCam. This should be basic stuff by now
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahfink5440 that is not how it works.
@leoc544 3 жыл бұрын
I'm writing this comment on an iPod touch with the A5 chip which was the second attempt at designing their own chipsets and the first dual core one. I remember how awed everyone was back then. It debuted in 2011, this device is from 2013 (this is a 16gb) and it's running an iOS from 2015. It's amazing how far this trend went in less than 10 years...
@kebireo 3 жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing. Looking at how well ARM did on Windows, I didn’t have high hopes for Apple Silicon, and yet Apple has completely shattered my expectations.
@Shawn.Shooter 2 жыл бұрын
Late comment but ARM never did well on Windows. Microsoft even stopped using ARM based chips on their Sufrace devices and started using Intel chips instead. Also they discontinued Windows 10X which never did run well on ARM based devices so not sure what do you mean by saying "Looking at how well ARM did on Windows" which never happened.
@bennyzebra1386 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shawn.Shooter whooooooosh
@vasu5361 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shawn.Shooter you must be fun at parties.
@Hobbles_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly so surprised that this went as well as it did. I wasn't expecting a dumpster fire or anything, but I was not really expecting much better than Intel based macs on non-native apps. Great job Apple. I have to say though, I had much higher hopes for the webcam after hearing about the better image processing. The main reason that webcams look so bad is the lack of a good strong ISP in normal computers. That truly is a dumpster fire.
@xenajin6827 3 жыл бұрын
That webcam problem is a hardware limitation. Excellent software and image processors can back up a below average hardware to a certain extent.
@williamfowl8670 3 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't actually the hardware. It's the distance from the pcb. You see it with windows 2-in-1s. Their webcams are so much better than the laptops because the image data can be processed by the cpu directly. On laptops, the wired runs are via USB 2.0, which is terrible for latency and throughput.
@jackdominiak445 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually using the web cam, (I upgraded from a MacBook Pro i5) it's much better than on the previous Macs, these guys are lying basically, because unexpectedly they couldn't find any other faults with the M1!
@makasete30 3 жыл бұрын
Linus from linustechtips grumbles in the background about being sceptical...
@makasete30 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackdominiak445 it’s more about the fact that compared to almost every other laptop at similar price points you get a much better camera. It’s also the fact that more people are working at home and would expect a very good camera on a “Pro” machine rather than just an ok one. It’s apple being stingy again, as they are with reducing ports, and expensive r]RAM and storage upgrades. It’s right to call them out on this every single time rather than just accept it. Having said all that, these laptops and the apple mini are impressive, and I’m kind of tempted to get a Mac mini now. I see a lot of comments from windows users who are curious as well.
@Ajay-km8br 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the laptops are all nice and dandy but can we take a moment to appreciate how well made this video is? Y’all at The Verge need a raise.
@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 3 жыл бұрын
they are gobbling up those apple cods for the big bucks
@fransisco5748 3 жыл бұрын
You know they're really serious when they review something TOGETHER
@MrEnterainment 3 жыл бұрын
I like this video a lot, but I was seriously astounded by the editing on those smooth transitions of you both talking about 3/4 into the video! I love the way that there was little to no pauses in between of you both talking and giving your views on the respective machines that you independently reviewing. It's a very good video and the editing is top notch!
@RaXXha 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the fan on the old macbook air was about as useful as not having one at all. xD
@Jay_Script 3 жыл бұрын
It's why apple removed the fan on the new Apple Silicon MacBook Air to remove production costs and reap those profits ;)
@PersepolisBand 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jay_Script so cool ! minus two dollars on each laptop, definetely will bring back apple to the market and finally beat all its competitors !
@sourav7162 3 жыл бұрын
@@PersepolisBand The fan costs like $20. You know that apple will sell these airs in millions. Now do the math.
@PersepolisBand 3 жыл бұрын
@@sourav7162 5$ on Ali express to buy so lmao thanks late, as if a minus even 5$ cost on a computer was a reason for a company to change a design architecture
@sourav7162 3 жыл бұрын
@@PersepolisBand Apple parts are usually more expensive.
@mikeward1701 3 жыл бұрын
iOS apps being available on macOS could be huge for security and privacy. Banking for example. If I can use my banks iOS app on macOS, I don't have to go to their website in a web browser, where I could accidentally mistype the URL, or be subject to a browser exploit, man-in-the-middle or phishing attack etc.
@Mahalakshmi-Khan 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but its not executed well, then not a great experience for the customer even if the alternative Is available.
@insanitylol 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mahalakshmi-Khan I think it will be ok.
@The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 жыл бұрын
It can still be hacked lol, apple security is not government grade
@moseskarunia 3 жыл бұрын
No. Most of the time you get "hacked", it's because you stupidly use stupid password, or put your password unencrypted digitally, or someone social engineers you, which is basically your fault.
@its_argho 3 жыл бұрын
See long story short. For a company like Apple, who charges such an exorbitant price for their products and services, they better be the best in class. That is expected from them. Nothing to be so geeked about.
@nixtr3sharma 3 жыл бұрын
Does the fan on this laptop go full throttle as well when connected to an external monitor?
@MohitDJadhav 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Especially the way u guys explained it. Great job As always 💯
@and280 3 жыл бұрын
I must say seeing Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn like a reviewing duo was the most exciting thing about this video.
@Baryn00 3 жыл бұрын
Literally nobody but the (extreme) wind: Dieter: MAAAAAAASK
@jsponson 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta do it to feel safe you know... 😉
@ev.c6 3 жыл бұрын
Apple hardware engineers have done an amazing job. They got a lot of experience designing chips for the iPhone and now they applied it for the notebooks. Can't even wait for the second generation of these things.
@rtech5347 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2013, I Bought a MacBook Pro 13 inch because it was clearly better than the air. It had a better display, much better performance and it was clearly the best thing for the future This time around it is different, the Air is much much closer to the 13” Pro, and is a fantastic offering.
@yaoike2449 3 жыл бұрын
MBA 16gb or MBP base what would you choose?
@aircommandslipperz 3 жыл бұрын
yea if you are not a power user there is no point getting the pro now
@75and1 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Still rocking a mid 2014 pro. At the time it was a no brainer vs the Air, but now that I’m probably going to buy an M1, Air seems the way to go
@m4574 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Back in 2012 when I bought the retina Pro, the display of the Air alone was reason enough not to buy it. I’m gonna switch to an M1 Air now.
@panzer_TZ 3 жыл бұрын
Air is the clear winner this round. Due to efficiency of the M1 chip, you get similar performance, similar battery life, and a similar screen for significantly cheaper. Based on what I’ve seen in this video, I don’t even see a need for the 2-port MacBook Pro to even exist. For example, Id much rather have the Air with 16GB of Unified memory for $1200, than pay $1300 for a base 2-port Pro. If you’re dead set on the Pro, it would definitely be worth it to wait for the upgraded AS chip with 4-ports and a higher performance ceiling.
@cat-.- 3 жыл бұрын
None of us knew Intel has been ripping off humanity this badly until today
@xjohnny1000 3 жыл бұрын
Except those of us who used computers before Intel took over.
@theartshow1476 3 жыл бұрын
You must be referring to mostly Mac users because it’s been an ongoing battle in the tech community for a while. Pretty much everyone knows.
@The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what apple will do lol
@cat-.- 3 жыл бұрын
@@theartshow1476 yeah you are probably right, I thought the latest intel mac was the best they could do lol silly me.
@Fabio-rg9nv 3 жыл бұрын
@@theartshow1476 Nah, Mac users experienced it too when Intel didn‘t hold their huge promises on power efficient 10nm chips in 2016, which were supposed to be used for the 12“ fan-less MacBook. It was partly Intel‘s fault that the 12“ MacBook had to be discontinued. And now 4 years later Intel is still trying to deliver on those „efficient“ 10nm chips. *Edit: admittedly, Intel‘s new 11th CPU is quite good and competes with TSMCs 7nm node. But a little too late to be taken seriously at that point. And whether that decent quad core CPU is even scalable remains to be seen. It‘ll have to if they want to have any chance in keeping up with AMD and Apple.
@prav1102 3 жыл бұрын
felt like honest review and you both have covered all the aspects of the M1 chip and its use cases, nicely done !!
@danezbah 3 жыл бұрын
Damn...makes me really regret getting my updated keyboard Intel Air in-between it's release and when the Apple Silicon was announced...
@THEFIRE360 3 жыл бұрын
Even when they don't have touchscreens on the macs. I still see them everywhere covered with fingerprints like they have touch screens. Like what
@100colorpencils6 3 жыл бұрын
Lol so true my parents and grandparents laptops look like they are being used as napkins.
@nullsurfer7331 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs died 9 years ago, but it's only today that I am convinced that Apple could live without him. They really can innovate.
@j2simpso 3 жыл бұрын
I was convinced when they launched the iWatch and AirPods. Hopefully this leadership will continue into the future. Apple can best be described in two words: Innovative ecosystem
@aliasgerchallawala4582 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@alphazar 3 жыл бұрын
The move to its own processor is part of Jobs's plan in 2008 just a year after the launch of iPhone. Not only that, he predicted the move before he rejoined Apple
@The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 жыл бұрын
But they haven't, they even went with Steve jobs iphone design lol
@AaronAbernethy 3 жыл бұрын
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify Which was a rip of products from another company. Steve wasn’t magic. He just knew what he liked (and that’s probably the biggest understatement here).
@milkyy4168 3 жыл бұрын
Quick clarification: the entry model m1 pro has an 8 core gpu as standard, while the entry model m1 air has a 7 core gpu.
@DanielOceanVideos 3 жыл бұрын
The script of this video, the direction, the editing, the music and of course the review itself can all be summarized with one word: "PRICELESS!". In my opinion, this video outshines almost every other past Verge video. To all the people who put this video together, keep it up! And, thanks.
@chuithrowaway77 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the laptops are all nice and dandy but can we take a moment to appreciate how well made this video is? Y’all at The Verge need a raise.
@hiklan 3 жыл бұрын
The lads at the verge killing it with these reviews
@PHlophe 3 жыл бұрын
Dieder is a top bloke that's for sure.
@IAmOmniscient 3 жыл бұрын
Dieter and Nilay are awesome together! Their energies work so well for these reviews. The Verge makes some of the best produced videos too.
@siddhshah2024 3 жыл бұрын
**Apple actually delivers on the M1 chip** **Sad Linus noises**
@Broodjemetbeleg 3 жыл бұрын
Should've kept quiet and tested the damn thing in the first place
@paranoidrodent 3 жыл бұрын
@@Broodjemetbeleg Pretty sure he's having Anthony test it. He uses a Mac at home (and is seriously into *nix) so he should give it a fair shake.
@rajeevrulz 3 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to see this
@sawyercooke 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this style of review!
@20_percent 3 жыл бұрын
Technology moves as fast as I go to the store for beer.
@gergo.r 3 жыл бұрын
not cpu design. this was probably created 4? years ago. So people are still happy to buy a laptop with 16gb ram for 2000$
@RoganClipVaultYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@gergo.r what
@samarpreetsingh1052 3 жыл бұрын
@@gergo.r what
@surfingbilly9654 3 жыл бұрын
@@gergo.r what
@fckSashka 3 жыл бұрын
@@gergo.r what
@rashidrafi 3 жыл бұрын
In the Mac mini review on verges website,it’s written “a truly awful speakers” are you guys serious
@hannanahmad2979 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what they do 🤣🤣. Autopsy of technology
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
Yes? All the Mac mini’s have had truly awful speakers, so I wouldn’t expect the new M1 version to be much better.
@nameslastnames3332 3 жыл бұрын
It's a signature feature of our beloved minis, hads off!
@w99mmt 3 жыл бұрын
“I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been” - Steve Jobs
@NYCybertruck 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a Wayne Gretzky quote
@mdyer1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@NYCybertruck r/wooosh
@NYCybertruck 3 жыл бұрын
@@mdyer1130 wow that’s so cool are you a redditor or something
@idaho 3 жыл бұрын
Micahel Scott
@insanitylol 3 жыл бұрын
Get off KZfaq and go to reddit
@rafaelmedina3377 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this review. Easy. Simple. Funny. Geeky but not too geeky. Would love to continue seeing these co-lead reviews
@YashM1234 3 жыл бұрын
What about support for developers? Did you guys run python, docker, Java or any other developer apps ?
@rohankauts2339 3 жыл бұрын
DOCKER NOT READY.
@ria8850 3 жыл бұрын
docker not ready yet - the transition kit didn't support emulations, but these do.
@sarthak.shrivastava 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah java as well.
@chandrashekard.7543 3 жыл бұрын
Docker just dropped its beta version, they expect it to release in a few weeks. Python, java and everything else works perfectly. Vs code runs on Rosetta for now, Microsoft announced that the native version is coming in a few weeks. Homebrew is also in the works and native version will be out in a week. NodeJS also works perfectly
@chandrashekard.7543 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarthak.shrivastava Java runs perfectly, people tested it out by running Minecraft and it performs better that all intel based macs.
@mingweicheese3709 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting and rechecking this review for ages
@dan_erthal 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this video is so well produced. Congrats
@FacesOfIT 3 жыл бұрын
A Nilay Patel is spawned every time an Apple product is up for review.
@tylerhelton3816 3 жыл бұрын
Is it a Dieter Video? Yes: Watch No: Skip
@RodHerzstrom 3 жыл бұрын
I just got mine and uploaded my unboxing. I'm very excited to try it and see if ANDROID STUDIO works well and other apps ! So many tests to do😝
@harshmehlawat8108 3 жыл бұрын
Could you upload a video on Android Studio's performance on these machines? Looking to buy one
@-_James_- 3 жыл бұрын
Android Studio never works well. ;)
@fightnight14 3 жыл бұрын
Deiter: “Stakes are high” My tummy: *growls
@jacobjarvis1335 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of wish I would've waited for the 2020 with the M1, I'm stuck with the I5.
@tangaimadambi813 3 жыл бұрын
Same boat brother, same boat 😢
@mrglance1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you think it's a bit cheap from Apple to release to MacBook Air in the same year?
@BlackMysteries1 3 жыл бұрын
i got my macbook pro with intel i5 in it with an decent discount on it. what do you guys think. keep it or return it in exchange for m1 macbook pro
@oTerrorify 3 жыл бұрын
Return
@jacoblukewood 3 жыл бұрын
"We have a thousand questions going into this review" *Proceeds to list 4 questions*
@reckless1280 3 жыл бұрын
Got it. The next video will be five hours of questions :)
@Mahalakshmi-Khan 3 жыл бұрын
I go to Marques for the General Overview. I come to Verge for the Detailed Review.
@IVTkids Жыл бұрын
Reviews by The Verge are just Incredible . To the point , no nonsense and without any idiotic thumbnails. Keep up the good work - Verge team!!
@BrittMasters 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful and done so slickly. Huge thanks!
@lokeshsingh1454 3 жыл бұрын
came here after watching mkbhd video and jesus you guys have got some real details no one has mentioned kuddos to that
@somerandompersonontheinter9211 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see this kind of stuff on the ARM based surface pro's.
@ZeitGeist_TV 3 жыл бұрын
They need to update the aging Surface Pro laptops to look like the Surface X and they and Apple really lost their minds with the prices on their ARM based laptops. I have the 12.9 inch iPad Pro and the 2017 Surface Pro and have no reason to upgrade either for a while so I'm hoping by the time I decide to do so that the very least Surface Pro laptops and the Surface keyboard get refreshed with a bigger track pad and smaller bezels. I'm hoping that Apple eventually gets Mac OS on iPad Pro since they did so well with their that Mac using their own processors.
@yaakovmijares 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeitGeist_TV Theyve alreay done that with the surface laptop go
@ZeitGeist_TV 3 жыл бұрын
@@yaakovmijares That has nothing to do with my comment, and with images of the upcoming Surface Pro 8 and is huge outdated bezels Microsoft needs to step up. M1 MacBook Pros have already had Windows on ARM installed and no surprises it wipes he floor of even Surface Pro X2 with the new mobile CPU in it. Once Microsoft start to license out Windows on ARM OS that will definitely be a major step forward in app creation and adoption of developers making and optimizing apps.
@nailong 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, may I know what is the software you use to bypass when you are using Adobe photoshop to make the current version works on the new m1 chips processor?
@user-qy2wf2lt6v 3 жыл бұрын
Will you recomend this Macbook, evene after the privacy issuer?
@jullyangreen7106 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like y’all saved me money cuz I’ll get the air instead of the 13” pro
@jullyangreen7106 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave Chapelle based on this video and my needs as of right now everything I need is in the air and the pro is more beefy in what it can do but both reach expectations. Don’t get me wrong I’d like the pro but given the way things are it would be better for me to save the money and go with the Air.
@parole1768 3 жыл бұрын
8G or 16G？I'm struggling
@FiredAndIced 3 жыл бұрын
@@parole1768 Is your livelihood dependent on editing videos or making music? If not take the 8GB memory. Apple has optimised its software to fully stretch out that 8GB memory using their M1 chip so you won't feel sluggish working on it.
@RaveN_EDM 3 жыл бұрын
I mean its like the iphone 12 vs 12 pro.
@nhlvan 3 жыл бұрын
@@hirakaiko5570 you clearly have never used Final Cut
@KyudoKun 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's safe for Apple to include stickers in their Macbook with "Intel not inside"
@X99Zero 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god for that desk, couldn’t have done the review without it
@galantghost 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm trying to decide which of these Macbooks would be best for me, the Air or Pro. I use photoshop to design things like event flyers, cd covers, social media images etc. And also use a software called Movavi to edit videos. Nothing too fancy, mainly trimming, pasting and adding various video clips and audio files together to create videos that are roughly 45 mins to an hour long. Can the Air handle this easy or should I get the pro?
@rohanmane 3 жыл бұрын
7:31 imagine if apple gives RGB backlighting just for the sake of it
@dandydipity852 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 macbook pro that I REALLY want to upgrade (I've already switched out the fan system, the battery, & the hard drive 4 times - I think it's time to move onto a new comp). I've been waiting for stupid things like the butterfly keyboard to be worked out. This seems like this is a good time to upgrade to, potentially, the M1 Air. I do have a question.. on my current Macbook I have the 2016 Adobe Design Suit .. which I think was the last disk collection they had before switching to Adobe Cloud. I don't have the funds to constantly pay for Adobe Cloud, so I want to carry over the old suit .. do you think they'll run on the M1?
@saxdrugsrockandroll 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the M1 MacBook Pro (16GB RAM, 512GB Storage) and have been using it for two weeks. I use Zoom for work and also work with a lot of multi-track music so I thought the better microphone and the heavy lifting of the pro's active cooling would be worth the extra $300. So far, the fan hasn't turned on once. Lightning quick. Incredible battery life. I've been able to use it for up to 12-14 hours of heavy work before the reserve battery kicks in. Unexpectedly, I am in LOVE with the Touch Bar and it's functionality. I've set my favourites to pop up on the Touch Bar when opening a new webpage and it's surprisingly a lot quicker than the conventional "click & type" (Fun fact: if/when you get ads from videos you can use the Touch Bar to skip ahead instead of waiting the 5+ seconds). As for the two ports, so far I haven't needed more than the two. I bought a USB-C adapter for when I need more connections but so far it hasn't been necessary. 10/10 review, and a small part of me also wonders if the MacBook Air would have done just as good of a job, but I'm extremely happy with my new laptop!
@Newburyk 3 жыл бұрын
Is it a Dieter Video? Yes: Watch No: Skip
@farmville_invite 3 жыл бұрын
Same, but other way around
@Sakuyushi 3 жыл бұрын
The Verge has many good reporters. I miss Demi Lee
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
The answer here is YesNo. Then what?
@mikeward1701 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the problem is Chrome, and not Apple. Direct your frustration at Google. While you're at it, switch to the chromium version of Microsoft Edge, it's Chrome without with Google privacy nightmare.
@mrifan8625 3 жыл бұрын
Just use safari hahaha
@christianmoore7109 3 жыл бұрын
just use safari at this point. They've added in 4K video playback and it's a lot more efficient.
@mikeward1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrifan8625 I personally do for 99% of the websites I use. Some however don't like to play ball in Safari, KZfaq being one of them (shocker!). Plus Safari is missing a few extensions I use in other browsers. My browser preference rank is Safari > Firefox > Edge (Chromium) > Chrome.
@sintervinter7233 3 жыл бұрын
I think so although i heard Chrome improved battery life around 4 months ago. But i dont think its that good on Chrome but idk
@braedenblack6116 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of better browsers than chrome out there
@_ayushm79 3 жыл бұрын
Which one should I buy Macbook Pro M1 or Macbook Pro 16 inch i7 please reply ....
@jlrumohr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming that the fan and touchbar is the main difference. I've been wondering since they announced this thing.
@kiwinacho 3 жыл бұрын
7:31 Macbook so fast, keyboard got RGB
@porvoonosho 3 жыл бұрын
What heck was that? Troll editing?
@judahrivera3259 3 жыл бұрын
that's chromatic aberration
@yunglogi1196 3 жыл бұрын
Davinci out of controll
@madhurgarg6439 3 жыл бұрын
This makes three product categories Apple is miles and miles ahead in. 1: Smartwatch 2: Tablets 3: Laptops
@javenturner1 3 жыл бұрын
🧢
@Tagnastic 3 жыл бұрын
@@javenturner1 no 🧢
@niravmandaviya2355 3 жыл бұрын
Laptops is selective
@Anderson_Hwang 3 жыл бұрын
@@niravmandaviya2355 For productivity, its number one for sure. In gaming, not so much
@nabagaca 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt say miles ahead in smart watch or laptop. Id say they are first in smartwatch, but not miles ahead of something like galaxy watch, which had features like variable refresh rate display and sleep tracking years before the apple watch got it, and so the competition is close there. In laptops, apple only competes in a small sliver of the overall market, and even then, its always a question of price when making the comparisons, so once again, even if you want to say they're first, you can't say they are miles ahead of people like Dell and Microsoft.
@leahstarz2345 3 жыл бұрын
I want to get a MacBook Air for school. Should I get the M1 chip one or a refurbished early 2020 model?
@simonn1479 3 жыл бұрын
so should i buy the 13 inch m1 model now or what im really puzzled with these new reviews
@aerialalexx1918 3 жыл бұрын
awesome review ! I love my ToucbBar and use it all the time ! editing programmes take huge advantage of it
@agraciotti 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for the glorious return of the usb port
@wasiahmed1547 3 жыл бұрын
Can i use it for web design and web development?
@paul28177 3 жыл бұрын
I've just switched from the 2017 imac to the new mac mini m1...quite impressed so far... it's very snappy. I do use some iPad apps - mostly to operate smartcams and they work well ... not really tried gaming apps or other ios apps. I do have a mix of intel software too - I've not noticed any issue and it works as it should
@b.radical 3 жыл бұрын
I know you guys probably do not test for this, but what about DAWs, like Logic? Would these run as good on a Macbook Air?
@carlitoxb110 3 жыл бұрын
I use Bias FX on Ableton live 10 and it's not currently working on Bigsur, I recommend patience don't upgrade yet, you might have some compatibility issues
@jeffkung5088 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlitoxb110 seems is not ready for prime time yet. But that’s even the case with OS updates. As always in music, wait a year for the kinks to be ironed out.
@shadician 3 жыл бұрын
Soooo let's say you gotta choose between 16GB M1 MacBook Air, or the 8GB Macbook Pro of the same price....which one to go for? Anyone got any advice?
@Marius_ae 3 жыл бұрын
If you don’t do heavy creative work, go for the Air, if you do, wait for the 16 inch pro and save up for a 16gig version of that.
@shadician 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you@@Marius_ae! Unfortunately budget is capped as my friend needs to make the purchase to replace their old macbook pro which has died ASAP, so waiting and saving more isn't really an option. They have enough for either of the options mentioned above, but we can't work out if it's worth getting a Pro with less ram than an Air for the same price.
@Marius_ae 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadician short answer it isn’t for an average user :) the performance is similar, but because of the cooling fan in the Pro it can handle heavy work loads over longer time without a drop in performance. It Also has a bit better battery, but the airs battery is Also great at this point. The price difference really isn’t worth it for the average user, and 16 gigs of ram vs 8 gigs is a no brainer. I say go for the 16 gig Air :)
@bizmonkey007 3 жыл бұрын
What are you doing with the computer? That’s the question. As they explain in the video, the MacBook Pro can be pushed harder because it has a fan, but the two models are basically just as powerful. When it comes to RAM, it’s not as clear cut. I can tell you the MacBook Pro 8GB model does not feel like an 8GB laptop. It’s hard to believe until you use it, but it can easily handle 4K footage in FCPX without breaking a sweat. You will hit a wall with the RAM if you’re really pushing the machine though.
@killingjoker5424 3 жыл бұрын
Please someone do some logic pro benchmarks.. i work with audio and i would love to know how this new M1 chips handle lots of plugins in projects
@larose22 3 жыл бұрын
Is having the 8 core GPU or having 16gb of unified memory more beneficial in the long run when considering the MacBook Air?
@esandrespues 3 жыл бұрын
My M1 comes tomorrow!!! I’m so exited
@adiib 3 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that you binge watch almost all reviews even after our MBP is being shipped?
@victorvannatter312 3 жыл бұрын
I've never used either machine but how much better is the screen on the Air? Brighter more colourful screens are always better
@jasperfredrickson4420 3 жыл бұрын
I want a buddy cop show featuring Nilay and Dieter. Make it happen.
@Dresling 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't yet found a reviewer who talks about if 8 gigs of RAM on these M1 systems is fine?
@sabrinamerrick1271 3 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for that before I pull the trigger
@anatolys9203 3 жыл бұрын
it depends on your tasks. ram on m1 is faster so for most everyday tasks 8gigs should be enough.
@ccstarrparkbrawlstars1913 3 жыл бұрын
Go watch max tech video on m1 macbook air 8gb and 16gb ram stress test. The m1 8gb was almost always on par with the 16gb variant
@AkaPasoquen 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see how it handles virtualization workloads.
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