The timing was so on point I now actually believe there are 2 MKBHDs

Never have I been so attentive in my life watching MKBHD disagree with Marques Brownlee

I know this wasn’t your intention but you’ve just created the PERFECT, engaging and relevant, example for this English teacher to use when teaching students how to format argument. Plus, you’ve completely persuaded me not to be distracted by “new and shiny”. Awesome job, man!

since nobody mentioned anything about this, I'm only considering the m2 because I don't wanna let go of the touchbar. It's been extremely useful in my day to day and if only they made a version of it in the new M1's then I would just go with that.

We really need to appreciate how well marques has played the roles, it seems pretty natural and believable that these are two different characters discussing. I have no idea how they did it to be so natural, but it’s fantastic!

Apple has too many touch bars they’re trying to get rid of.

This is why I chose the base M2 Macbook Pro over the air: - probably last macbook to ever have a touchbar - cooling fans - obnoxiously long battery life - incredible speakers that you can't even put next to the mb air - I thought it was the perfect way to get into MB pro ownership without having to sell a kidney - there will always be enthusiasts willing to pay for a used touchbar model and this one is the best of them, which will drastically slow down its depreciation - with the superfast and super efficient M2 chip, even 8gb storage feels enough even during more demanding tasks - in the age of iCloud, dropbox etc you really don't need more than 256gb of storage unless you are a content creator or similar - SSD might be slower than the last gen, but it is the equivalent of a car doing 3.5 sec 0-60 instead of 2.5 (still faster than pretty much anything else) Of course, it is not as powerful as the M1 pro and max laptops and yes, for a serious developer/content creator/similar, these specs are laughable. But for an average person who wants that little bit of extra performance over the air or just wants to try out what a macbook pro is like, it is absolutely perfect.

I absolutely love this video. Your conversation is exactly what’s inside my head for the 2 weeks. I just don’t know which decision is the best. BUT: We really need a behind the scenes!! 😂

MKBHD has reached such a level of mastery with tech that he doesn't even need guests for comparisons, he just invites himself to his show! 🤯

That million dollar studio is so justified after seeing this vid man! This type of content is by far 🐐 level

I think this could have been solved years ago by re-introducing the “Macbook” as the budget laptop and moving the Air to the mid tier. I think price and performance wise there’s way to big of a price gap between the new Air and the real “Pro” laptops. I can imagine it now a 11/13” Macbook, 13”/15” Air and 14”/16” Pro.

I chose the M2 Pro over the M2 air and M1 Pro because i needed something inbetween. I had a 2017 Macbook Pro 13inch and A. I didn't want to miss the touch bar without ever using it (and i really do like it over the keys), the fans which help run programs better and speakers. Also there are so many apps that cut off the top of the screen because of the notch which i was fine with on the iphone and would even be fine with on the ipad but not on the macbook

I think Marques raised some good points, while Marques had some solid rebuttals. Overall, I think Marques won this debate!

This was a really cool review format! You can tell that Marques actually went through this line of thinking himself, and it translated really well into a video! Great job, Marques!

First Mac I've bought and the only reason I bought it was because of the touch bar, if the higher models included the bar I would consider those too. Honestly, it's the only thing that differentiates the look of the macs from the 2010 versions, which I feel the higher models look similar to.

THe only reason I‘d consider this model is the Touch Bar…if you’re typing a lot its really helpful…I wished apple had a 14/16 inch version with the Touch Bar

He knows he doesn't HAVE to take videos to this insanely clever and high quality level to be success, earn a comfortable living, etc. Pushing it to this level to just blow everything out of the water in quality and creativity. That's a choice. There are easier roads and this team doesn't take them. And that's why I'll always respect this channel.

This man has been doing tech reviews since 2009, AND STILL!!!! He still finds a way to be better than all others.

Love the side by side weigh-in! Would love to see more of this format for future comparisons!

I got the M2 Pro yesterday, better battery and cooling. 90% of the time I will only use it for minimal tasks but it's nice to know when I need it to perform harder it won't fail me.

I've never been more attentive, than while watching 2 MKBHDs have an understandable conversation. I just bought the M2 literally 2 days ago and love it. BUT! This is really interesting to hear the 2 sides tho. like... maybe i should have waited for the m2 air to come out...

Great breakdown of the laptop, and even better video production! Love to see it!

The MacBook with a Touch bar was such a smart move to make it stand out from the crowd. That was something new that we haven't seen till the date. The touch bar was so easy to use and was extremely useful in editing. It should be back with some changes but disappearing immediately from Mac is kind of disappointing for those who actually loved that feature.

I love the Touch Bar … it allows you to skip through KZfaq Ads!

In my opinion, and it seems like a lot of comments agree. This is my favorite MKBHD style of video I have ever seen. Forget trying to remain unbiased embrace it on both sides. While I assume this was much more difficult to plan, execute, and edit, it was brilliant.

100% on enterprise - when launched the 1st thought I had was 'cool, that's probably going to be my next work computer', since companies seem to be only getting 13in MBP, for some reason.

I bought the m2 pro and iPad 12.9 pro thanks to all of the indecisive reviews lol

One of the maybe under-appreciated things about MKBHD lately is his continued interest in visual experimentation. It's no longer just a guy talking to a camera, and hasn't been for several years now. It hit me when I watched the intro to his iOS 16 video. He didn't have to do any of that, and it was only 4-5 seconds long, but it's really nice and I appreciate the craftsmanship.

This is the most engaging and creative review I’ve ever seen. Great job marques and everyone else at the studio!😃

You know you reached the next level when most of the comments are about the video editing quality rather than the great information in the content. Congrats to the team ! hope to see more of this

Was waiting for the other MKBHDs to come walking in with the shoe & say “ but are they fly as these kicks or can they feel cooler like these kicks or can they make you feel comfy like these kicks? “

Soooo... I'm just more confused now.

Brilliantly edited video. You have got to get your twin brother on your videos more often, he's so well informed, just like you. 🙂

I love how he’s able to be neutral and argue for both sides. Really helps in the decision making process. I can’t afford either tho, so I’ll stick with my 13in Intel 8th Gen MacBook Pro from 2020 lol.

In a perfect world, the user could choose between a keyboard layout with a touchbar or one without a touchbar, for me the touchbar is great and has a lot of potential. Great video BTW

Actually a really creative and fun choice with having two Marques's where one is pro M2 Macbook pro and one is against!

Huge respect to Marques and team for always finding incredible ways of improving the quality and viewing experience!

I ended up getting it because I do really like the touch bar. Sure, it's not perfect, but once you get used to it, you almost can't live without it. I love the auto correct in multi languages as a tri lingual person. I love having emojis available there. I love having specific toggles in different apps there. So I even sacrificed going from a 16 inch screen to the M1s 13 inch, just to keep the touchbar.

I don’t think you get a lot of credit for the type of videos you do. This is an amazing video, well done to you and your team!

Apple: Oh! I see! So the price is too similar. Proceeds to bump the MacBook Air's price by 400 bucks.

The interaction between the 2 MKBHDs was just flawless. It felt like watching 2 people having a legit debate.

I’m a broke college kid that finally needs to upgrade from my 2015 MacBook Pro and this helped me so SO much and was such a great summary of literally everything thank you thank you !!

I don't think a six-year-old design matters at all. At the end of the day, it's about what the individual consumer wants and needs.

The only way I can think to describe this video is virtuosic. It worked on every level. Having two Marqueses in dialogue was really effective and saved some money by not having to have a second person in studio. Great and informative review and an incredibly skillful production.

The creativity, and production that went into creating this is by far the best I have ever seen on KZfaq!!! The inter-dialogue between yourself is simply flawless, I literally thought you had a doppelganger in the studio hahaha . Great job Marques!!!!! 🐐

Well, I do change from Windows based laptop to MacBook Pro M2 13inch now, and.... I am really happy with it ! Active cooling sys., Touch bar, fast speed working, better microphones, 0% percentage credit option.... It is worth to buy at all !!!

As a big fan of the touch bar, this is the last best option, correct?

Awesome video! Hope we can get a glimpse behind the scenes on the studio channel! 🤞

Wow! You've hit it out of the park for the video and editing. I completely forgot both are same person. There were no awkward moments. With very natural pause, responses between the characters!! Hats off to your editing team. Even movies find it hard to pull this off!

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I am an It student and here's why I choose the 13 " MB p over the m2 13" air . On first glance, i thought the m2 air was a great deal at $999 ( student discount) but then i was sure 8 gigs wasn't enough so i pressed the 16 option . Then i noticed the m2 chip in the air is not really m2 , it has 2 less GPU cores so just for fun i selected the 10 core model . With those 2 upgrades i was sitting at $1279 ( with student discount) . Then I glossed over to the 13" MB p . It has a fan, better speakers , and the 16GB model would cost me 1379$ ( with discount) . The SSD gate isn't really a thing unless you're moving very large files which i won't be doing on a 256 GB MacBook . I already know I'll have to buy some sort of dongle so not having the magsafe ain't really a big deal for me . The reason i can't go for the 14" is because it starts at $1850 ( with student discount) . $1500 is already stretching my budget so $1900 is out of my options. So yea, if you're a student but do video editing and want a bit more oomph , 13" mac book is a good option . Marquess glossed over this saying upgrades to the 13" will net you 1900$ but the only upgrade that is a "need" for someone in my shoes is the RAM and by the time i upgrade RAM on the air , it's almost at a similar price

I actually think these types of "interview-style" videos are a great way of reviewing!

This is a new level of production and honestly I've never seen this pulled off so well. And the review needed that pro/con way of looking at it to so it wasn't just a schtick. Well done!

I only realized 4 minutes into the video that it is just one person speaking and that immersed the experience and statement so much

Bro, i am jumping from a matebook x pro to a macbook pro. AND I ordered the macbook pro m2 JUST for the sake of the touchbar! and nothing more :D

You been doing this since 2013 and every day you still find a way to stay on top of your game and still make it interesting to watch well done Sir 🤩

Bro the timing of these interactions us insane! This absolutely is next level editing!

I'm in my car typing this with a MacBook pro m2 chip next to me that I just bought from best buy.

I think the reason this exists is so people can buy a new MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar

One thing both of you guys (MKBHD and Marques Brownlee) have in common that you could not resist is folding of arms and placing your hand under or side your cheek when you are listening. That’s awesome how we accustoms to being relaxed using certain body gesture that even ourselves are not aware of. Great editing

Love this video style 😎

I am buying the MacBook pro 13 M2 within one week, I can care less what other people say about it. I like the MacBook Pro 13 design better than the other newer models.

This was a hard one to make. But ima go with the MacBook m2 pro. Just the Touch Bar gets me alone.

The 6 year old MBP 13" with touch bar probably never sold as well as Apple hoped (probably also thanks to the unpopular touch bar, an expensive component most didn't want but which increased the overall price of that machine nonetheless; and lack of physical F-keys), so Apple had thousands of 6 year old parts for the MBP 13" either in shelfs or still locked in production contracts. And to get rid of all the parts that are either lying on the shelf or still have to be ordered obligatorily, they frankensteined this M2 MacBook Pro 13" as an "exit strategy" basically. I suspect that this machine will be available for as long as the pent-up parts/contracts last. This could be a year or several years. This product could very well be the kind of product that in a few years' time we will still be wondering why it is still being offered, like the non-Retina MacBook Air (2008 design) that was still sold well into 2019.

Using the same boxes with a sticker over the old specs is crazy for Apple.

Wow there’s two of you!

i was this close to buy the M2 Macbook pro and i was skeptical about it at first since i iliked the design of the new AIR more but then i was like "wasnt pro always the best in the line up?" and here comes this video, im glad im pulling off on this one. thanks Marques!

I can't even tell which version of you you recorded first. That's how well this video was thought out and executed.

I have to say I loved this concept and going over the pros and cons comparing the two, rather the conventional way of listing ‘em and wow I just couldn’t unsee that video clip of the Tesla’s shatterproof glass cracking which was played briefly during this video! MKBHD is definitely scaling up with new video concepts and still keeping that minimalist touch to it!

Thanks for this well thought review. I now conclude that it all boiled down to my preferences: - I really wanted to have the ‘Pro’ name. - 14” and the notch aren’t my thing yet.

I bought one of these M2 MacBook Pros for my wife. It didn't turn on because of liquid damage. Someone posted it for sale on Facebook Mkt. I got it for $150. I put it on my hot air rework bench and brought it back to life. Now shes been using this MacBook Pro for almost 2 years.

This is beautifully performed, and edited. That wasn't an easy scene to do. Well done.

Hey Marques. I wanted to say that your videos are really fun to watch and at the same time you give a lot of info that helps people buy the right things. It’s as well amazing how your channel keeps growing. I’m a subscriber since

"Any other company try to reuse a six-year-old design" Ever heard of Thinkpad? I'm a huge Thinkpad fan, but their laptop is basically the same thing since forever, just updated spec

i might get that laptop just because of the TOUCHBAR and TRUST ME ITS AWESOME

I love Marques intros, always so clever and unique. Thank you for another insightful video, Brownlee!

This is such a genuinely great review format. Easy to understand, while still getting the information across properly.

i literally just wanted the touch bar LMAO. people have been sh**ing on it for 6yrs and it actually played a big role for why i wanted to buy this mac (i am 20)

I always knew there were 2 of him. He was working for 2 this entire time anyways, this makes sense. I KNEW IT!!!!

In my opinion, the MacBook Pro 13 exists to serve a single purpose in Apple's vision. To bait people into buying the more expensive 14" Macbook because as you said, when you spec out the 13" to the point where it actually makes sense, it comes dangerously close to the base tier 14" and at that point, you are already around $1800 in, so might as well put another $200 and get the more expensive machine. Probably a lot similar to the Starbucks ploy of having Tall, Grande, Venti where if you're looking to order Grande, most of the times you'd be tempted to spend +$2 and get the bigger Venti. I am not saying that MacBook 13" is bad in any sense, it is still a very capable machine, but the current MacBook line-up is a weirdly wide and unequal coverage for how much Value you can get for your Money.

Seems like Apple has just introduced a “middle option” to get people to buy up to the 14” M1 MacBook Pro. Probably a good way to make sure they clear out any excess inventory they have of that model before introducing the M2 Pro chips in the next iteration of those laptops

Don’t forget the skipping KZfaq adverts via the touch bar

As someone watching this on a new M2 MacBook Pro 13 inch, why did I choose this model? Well I was upgrading from having had to use a fossil of a 2010 MacBook for the past 4 years since im just starting college college and to be completely honest anything was better than that. But also my options were between the air and the pro, and as someone who uses my laptop for some mid heavy workload but doesn't have enough money to splurge on a really expensive pro model. My decision luckily was very simple. And also fortunately for me the upgrade itself was not tiny as for other people but rather almost a full decade worth of improvement. BTW the battery on this model makes me want to cry since my old model couldn't even handle being unplugged for more than 20 minutes without completely dying on me.

1:16 how do you find that out bro😭😂

This is an accurate representation of what happens in a technically savvy prospective customer’s mind before deciding between two finalist products.

I Love the Touch Bar. Please don't take it away from me

The M1 14" is my first Mac. Needed it for final cut in school. Gotta say, this is a machine, even the base model is quick. I have been on PC my whole life as well and I am impressed. It was hard to justify the price at first even after reading the performance numbers, but the render times are insane. If you have an app optimized for Mac, its all speed. I still have a razer blade 14" with a 3070 for 3d modeling and scaling, but even still, this little guy can keep up really well. I only edit video on the Mac. It's just that good.

Thank you, Air it is.

That small spec on the lens at 2:36. Couldn't ignore it

pretty impressive with the "twin Marques" so well synced.

You didn't mention another reason: it's just better design than 14" Pro. Its thinner, lighter and doesn't have all those ports if you just code and want M2 instead of M1

The only thing I can think is that this is the result of current supply chain issues. They didn't have enough of the new shells, screens, etc, -- and couldn't get them made as quickly as they used to in a post Covid-world -- but they looked around had plenty of the old ones sitting around. Thats... that's all i got.

I love the sheer amount of Intel MacBook Pro footage you were able to recycle in this video, it’s so hard to tell them apart other than the keyboard and older version of macOS

Just got my M2 MacBook Pro 16 gb RAM 512gb storage and I love it -The classic 2016 design feels comfortable and familiar -Battery life is great! -I low key missed the Touch Bar - performance it’s amazing for what I need it

I love mine! The Touch Bar is genuinely really cool. even just the typing suggestions that pop up on it. I typed most of this using the Touch Bar lmao

Forget the MacBook, this is your best video ever, the continuity alone 🤯 I could watch You do all head to head comparisons like this FOREVER and it won’t get old, trust me, we love hearing pros and cons! Amazing video MKBHD! 🔥

Though Marques made some good points, I'm gonna have to side with Marques on this one.

Would love to see a behind-the-scenes of this M2BHD video. Great stuff!

I think they should keep this core idea of the same chip as the mba but with a fan, but square it off (while keeping the Touch Bar ) to keep the design language coherent and rename it to MacBook Studio. It just makes sense : the Touch Bar was most useful for the creative uses, so it would be an option for those who need the Touch Bar.

The most spot on video i've seen in a while. The only issue with this MacBook for enterprises is the lack of 2 external monitors compatibility.