M2 MAX vs M1 MAX | Pro Photo & FCP Tests! Should you upgrade? How much faster is M2 Max?

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M2 Max vs M1 Max Pro Photo & FCP Test! Should you upgrade? How much faster is M2 Max? This video will go over various aspect of the new M2 Max inside the 14" MacBook Pro from a Pro Photo / Video perspective. You'll see a comparisons between M1 Max and M2 Max test and this will give us a good idea of the performance of each chip. Each of the graphs will go over various workflow and needs. At the end I'll answer 2 questions, should you upgrade if you already have the M1 Pro or Max? And if you are buying one now, is it better to buy the M1 Max with more RAM or the M2 Max. Find out in this video.
M2 MAX vs M1 MAX | Pro Photo & FCP Tests! Should you upgrade? How much faster is M2 Max?
• M2 MAX vs M1 MAX | Pro...
Multiple Displays & Multi Tasking Playlist
• M1 PRO/MAX Multiple Di...
SSD Speed • Should you buy the fas...
32GB vs 16GB for Pro • Why Photographer shoul...
Mac mini M2 PRO vs Mac Studio M1 MAX | Tough Choice - Pro Photo Test!
• Mac mini M2 PRO vs Mac...
Top M2 PRO vs Base M2 PRO | Intense Photo Workflow, is it worth the extra $300?
• Top M2 PRO vs Base M2 ...
Every Laptop M2 PRO/MAX SoC Real World Photo Test, what is the best config for Pro Photo?
• Every Laptop M2 PRO/MA...
Top M2 PRO vs Top M1 PRO | Pro Photography Test, which one to choose & should you upgrade?
• Top M2 PRO vs Top M1 P...
Top M2 MAX vs Top M1 MAX Real World Pro Photo Test. Which one to choose?
• Top M2 MAX vs Top M1 M...
M2 MAX 38GPU vs 30GPU Real World Photo Test, is it worth the extra $200?
• M2 MAX 38GPU vs 30GPU ...
Mac mini M2 PRO vs M2 vs M1 vs Mac Studio | Pro Photo & FCP Tests! What is the best configuration?
• Mac mini M2 PRO vs M2 ...
M2 MAX vs M1 MAX | Pro Photo & FCP Tests! Should you upgrade? How much faster is M2 Max?
• M2 MAX vs M1 MAX | Pro...
Multiple Displays & Multi Tasking Playlist
• M1 PRO/MAX Multiple Di...
SSD Speed • Should you buy the fas...
32GB vs 16GB for Pro • Why Photographer shoul...
Everything you need to know about Apple XDR display, including how to use and create custom preset for pro color workflow, fine-tune calibration and thoughts on calibration
• Apple XDR Display & Re...
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Diglloyd Photoshop Test macperformanceguide.com/Optim...
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00:00 Intro
00:24 Preface & Welcome
00:51 Shout Out to EX480UZ
01:15 Test Systems
02:37 Chip Segmentation
03:20 Pro Photographer Perspective
04:18 Should you get Top Spec M1 Max or M2 Max?
04:39 Chip Performance
05:13 Thermo Throttling
05:55 Initial Impressions
06:25 SSD Speed
07:07 SSD Speed Does not matter
08:00 SSD Speed vs Size
09:00 RAM & How Much?
10:00 Activity Monitor - Memory Pressure
10:25 iStat Menu 6
10:47 16GB for Pro?
11:14 32GB Best for Pro
11:40 Reading the Specs
12:06 Lightroom Classic LRC
12:25 LRC 1K 1:1 Preview
13:53 LRC 1K Export
15:26 LRC HDR Merge
15:37 LRC Pano Merge
16:32 Lightroom LR
16:43 LR 1K Export
17:59 CaptureOne C1 Preview
19:15 C1 Export
20:26 Photoshop PS
20:54 PS Speed
21:17 PS Medium 15.7GB Test
22:05 PS Huge 56GB
22:44 FCP H.264
23:10 FCP HEVC 8Bit
23:23 FCP ProRes 422
23:59 Should you upgrade?
25:29 to M1 Max or M2 Max?
26:15 Conclusions
#m2max #14MacBookPro

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@SamLuvsPizza Жыл бұрын

I watched like 12 different comparison videos and this is the best video I have seen. Most in-dept and professional. Def deserve more subscribers! Thank you Art 🙏🏽

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@dragosg23 Жыл бұрын

Why this man has such little subscribers, he has the most detailed comparisons

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Building up I supposed. Thank you for the sub!

@siewkimng1085 Жыл бұрын

Yea I’m waiting for his Mac mini review before biting the bullet.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

That is up coming!

@KaySlagman Жыл бұрын

Because people usually don’t appreciate information, but are looking for quick dopamine fixes😢

@Winter_Wyvern1 Жыл бұрын

@@KaySlagman he is just getting started, growth is a progress u cant start at 1 million subscribers.

@lighthunter1980 Жыл бұрын

Your reviews are super well structured and presented. Thank you for the free content!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@realmac3k Жыл бұрын

Spot on with the memory observation, I had 16GB on M1 Pro and it wasn't enough. 32GB on M2 Max has been a huge improvement.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I wish more people see it that way.

@askabanov Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for these tests! All the best!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

😀

@aleksandrl6740 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding evaluation with many important (yet overlooked by many) points. Thanks so much!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Very welcome!

@TuanNguyen-et9us Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the detail review!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

No problem!

@posetoimpress Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this very informative video review/analysis. I watched the whole video in one go and realized that I would have stopped 5 minutes into it, like I do on many videos, but for the real tests that matter to me as a photographer. No fluff, no clickbait title, just clean (though wordy) information. I have subscribed!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@ele4853 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful presentation! Now I know what I need! Thank you so much!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

@RonaldCa Жыл бұрын

Great content! Just discovering your channel. Really enjoy your content. Thanks for making these videos!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@sardo-tech Жыл бұрын

Wow, found you channel in recommendations and I love the way you explain things :)

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Yay, thank you!

@mrt.7146 Жыл бұрын

As always - top tier material from you!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@semkobalcerski Жыл бұрын

Your reviews are the clearest ones I have found online and are now my go-to ones. Thanks for the effort you put into making them this way. Also, I was very gladly surprised by getting speedy answers to my questions. Big thanks again.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you and anytime!

@ksenijakordic Жыл бұрын

Great reviews, thanks so much!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@ZayasRaymond1 11 ай бұрын

Between Lightroom Classic, Photoshop and Final Cut Pro my base M1 Pro was constantly using a ton of swap. Looking at Activity Monitor I always could hear your voice in my head telling me I needed 32 GB’s of RAM or more for a pro workflow. I bit the bullet and picked up a 64 GB/2 TB M1 Max on sale at B&H for the same price as a new 16 GB/1 TB M2 Pro. Prices on the M1 Pro/M1 Max models are great right now.

@ArtIsRight 11 ай бұрын

They are!

@Nofakeable Жыл бұрын

Really well presented and explained test setup and results! I like it a lot. Thank you!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@RhawiDantas Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tests. Always interesting results.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@legendhasit2568 Жыл бұрын

This is such a great channel. Well done again Art

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@bowieknife Жыл бұрын

First! Always a fan of your videos, Art! Looking for those detailed comparisons of the M2 Mini (bumped up specs) vs M2 Pro Mini!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

That is coming! Thank you!

@brb669 Жыл бұрын

Well presented, sir! Thanks.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Very welcome

@StewartWoodArt Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, thank you for your advice!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@ThePeterR66 Жыл бұрын

great work. Thank you

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@IAmKenArts Жыл бұрын

One of the best structured reviews! 👍🏼👍🏼

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@jasonwu6637 Жыл бұрын

Very informative 👍

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@MicroVAX Жыл бұрын

I was delighted by your video. The presentation with the iPad annotation made it easy to follow what you were demonstrating. Also kudos to actually show workflows that are memory bound on the 32GB config. Hands down the best video I have seen on the new Macbooks.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@harkeofficial Жыл бұрын

As someone looking to purchase a top M1 Max or a mid tier M2 Max, this video is EXACTLY what I was looking for. So many details… this is amazing. Thank you for all the hard work!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@Guironey Жыл бұрын

thxxx for thissssss

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Sure thing!

@crearg8259 Жыл бұрын

Although I'm not a video producer, your review is detailed and comprehensive with easy-to-understand figures!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@chandranaraparaju 11 ай бұрын

You just exactly hit the topic who want to decide between these two based on recent price drop on M1 Max. Thank you.

@ArtIsRight 11 ай бұрын

You’re welcome

@RogerZoul Жыл бұрын

Thanks Art!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

You bet!

@GoldPunch Жыл бұрын

You are the best!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Than you!

@krishnansrinivasan830 Жыл бұрын

Nice & Thanks :)

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

No problem!

@Muldoonite Жыл бұрын

looking forward to your M2/M2 Pro Mac Mini tests!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Coming soon!

@watrobkasmaczna1 Жыл бұрын

Great chanel!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@mrparts Жыл бұрын

Is this a new channel? First time I see it recommended

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Been around the block for a while now, and have stated doing these testing since the first M1 Mac!

@zardlucky8557 Жыл бұрын

Very delicate video

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

@mhand7 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been refreshing your feed all week waiting for this video! Top work as always!! However, I do have a question, in the first video you did with the updated LR classic GPU export this same 16” M1 Max chip exported in 10m22s… i know it was but I have to ask, was this latest test done under the same conditions?? If so have I missed something totally obvious for the difference in time?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

That difference in time comes from the OS and LRC update. Things run slower in Ventura and LRC export slower in the latest release. So it is a combo effect really. I'll probably do a video talking about this at some point. However, that is the reason behind all of the variations.

@mhand7 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight ah ok, thanks for the clarification…I thought I’d missed something and found it odd how the ultra was the same time as that video but the 16MBP was slower

@phoenyfeifei Жыл бұрын

I really like your comparisons, it combines numbers and real-life experience, very subjective (the positive way)

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@wingsley Жыл бұрын

Great performance review.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@badrulislam2106 Жыл бұрын

Good to see you back with another detailed review. Is it possible to do topaz video ai with m2 mac? I am very interested to see if m2 more neuroengine changes anything. Thank you.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I might test this on just 2 machines that I showed in this video, we’ll see. I’ll keep this in mind

@badrulislam2106 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank u

@FreeEnergyTesla369 Жыл бұрын

Good Jobs

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@urdecisionisurs Жыл бұрын

Do u have a comparison between the macbook pro and the mac mini? Great video

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

That compilation is up coming, hopefully by the end of the week.

@ondrejbobek. Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the serious photo tests, Lightroom CC is starting to look good, the export was allways much slower in the past compared to LR Classic in your tests, but now it's much improved! Although previously the M1 Max came out significantly faster in LR Classic export test (10min) and that 14min was the Mac Mini M1 8/8 16GB export time.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

LR export has been better than LRC for sometime now. There was a brief gap in one of the previous dot release where for a second LRC is better than LR. That didn't last long and revert back.

@neonflairone293 Жыл бұрын

Thank You I’m an aspiring photographer with intermediate PS knowledge. I can handle layers and transparency and a few effects. I was really concerned about the tests for the base model ssd. they paint a scary 50% lower picture. would you recommend getting an upgrade of cpu and gpu cores + ssd or a bump on ssd + ram? they are the same 500$ price roughly. I am conflicted. tks for the hard work. subscribed! 👍

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I would start with RAM and then trickle down to SSD and then SoC. Upgrading SoC will see a performance gained on average of about a min or 2 in heavy workflow as you have seen. RAM you'll see more benefit. And don't buy into the upgrade SSD for speed and get the stock RAM, conundrum, it is a logic that does not make sense and go against any computing logic past and present.

@DennisMoncla Жыл бұрын

Had to stop 3.5 min in and comment that the import time is THE most important metric for me as a photographer using these machines! That plus how smooth is the editing of you don’t wait on the import and previews to finish building!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you, agreed!

@SMor42 Жыл бұрын

Do you import the entire card in lightroom? PhotoMechanic is far superior for importing and culling imo. And if you apply metadata, nothing touches PhotoMechanic for speed and options.

@DennisMoncla Жыл бұрын

@@SMor42 actually fast raw viewer touches photo mechanic. PM allows meta data writing but for a hefty price compared to FRV.

@freddymiguelponce Жыл бұрын

As always FANTASTIC video! Very useful information! Can't wait to see your video about the EX480UZ and how good is for video editing (maybe a EX480UZ vs SW321C vs PD3220U? That would be awesome!... just a video idea) Have a Productive and Healthy Day! In Art we trust?... For sure i do!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you and appreciate the idea!

@freddymiguelponce Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Awesome!

@davegolf123 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your great in-depth reviews on MBP products. I have pre-ordered a 16 inch MBP M2 Pro 12 cores, 32GB RAM + 1TB SSD for Adobe PR, AF, PS and LR etc. photos and videos editing. Do you think it worth upgrading CPU option to M2 MAX 30 cores GPU paying $200 more? Very appreciated for your advice.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

If you do video then yes, the double encoder/decoder engine in the max will benefit video work.

@gkcarrot Жыл бұрын

HI, your explanations about comparisons are really good. Is there any difference in tethering speed (Still camera) between M1 max and M2 max?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

@gkcarrot Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thanks alot, Have you done any tethering tests? if yes please share the video.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Testing off camera, no video. time variation based on that is null. I'll see what I can do

@kuau714 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Art you just saved me some money even though I was quite impressed with the import times with LRC I just don’t think it’s worth it. For now I’m sticking with my 16MBP Ultra with 32GB ram 1TB and my main machine the Mac Studio Ultra.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

That seems like a fluke in many way and best not buy in on that. Especially if your main machine is an Ultra!

@HakonBroderLund Жыл бұрын

Great test. Best I’ve seen so far. Only thing missing was more stressful video test pushing the gpu more. Noise reduction and similar. Most of the tests were cpu based, not gpu.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

If you have any specific suggestion let me know

@randomcomentator Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, Art!! The intro was much less annoying without the request to subscribe and like at the very beginning. I usually watch KZfaq at 2x, and the new animations with the like and subscribe buttons were popping up all the time which was also distracting (no less then the MacOS cursor at the beginning slides). I was also distracted by how close the text on the slides was to the video overlay, since it's a rookie mistake of layout design. Perhaps, you could show the graphs on the Benq displays, and fade in to the fullscreen graph for those who want to pause the video. You would promote Benq at the same time, thus killing two birds with one stone! I liked how you showed the visuals with the core saturation. It was satisfying to see that M2 keeps at 99.9% of utilization and I missed that visual in subsequent slides. Max Tech explained a long time ago why M1s cannot be fully utilized - it had something to do with wrong choice of performance strategy by Apple that would require developers to do extra hard work, instead of betting on a different approach. Perhaps that's what has been fixed with the M2. I like how you keep comparing the same software all time time, it creates a good point of reference for future products. Keep up the good work!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

@agiverreviga4592 Жыл бұрын

Do you think 32GB RAM for the M2 Max is enough for Photoshop when working with huge dimensions/a lot of layers?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

32GB would be the minimum. I would do a few things, change the memory allocation in PS to 80 or 90% and then use either Activity Monitor or iStat Menu to keep track of your usage and see how much you are using during the normal usage.

@gurugamer8632 Жыл бұрын

Do you recommend 14” MBP - 30c GPU - 32gb ram and 1TB for professional video editors using adobe premiere , fcp , DaVinci resolve. Files would be up to 6K resolution and other files might even be ProRes raw. Please advise.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Yes I think that would work just fine!

@wackyp Жыл бұрын

Assuming one doesn't care about export/import times etc.. Which config is best for brush/slider lag time in Capture One specifically?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I would still go by export optimization for C1. It is poorly written that even if you throw money at it by topping out the config, the overall lag time would be about the same as the optimized one.

@CarlosBarronJr Жыл бұрын

Was considering switching to a 14" M2 Pro or Max from the 16" MBP M1 Max for more portability but now really want to see your next reviews before making that call. Going to look at refurbished 14" M1 Max models now lol

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

More videos coming soon....

@itsme_jenmedia Жыл бұрын

Hi Art, Ive just invested in a refurb 14" M1 Max as I saved £1k. and think it's just fast enough for me, same spec as your 16inch. . Enough for my video and photo editing. . I hope I made the right decision. I dont need wifi 6 and 240fps yet, better bluetooth or better Facetime Camera.I would have liked 4Tb but can get 2Tb refurb. what do you think?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I think the previous gen will work just fine!

@SMor42 Жыл бұрын

Is there any difference in the sd card reader read speeds on the m2 vs m1?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I'll run that test, great question.

@wackyp Жыл бұрын

In all your reviews, I am curious to know how external monitors affect the results. How are the GPU cores consumed by just adding the external display (or more than one display). Should you buy more GPU cores if you have more external monitors? What's the correlation?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Watch this: kzfaq.info/sun/PLjlr8rlxl_q65mOyASWU2naUlPCr78nxi Depending on the programs, resolution and the number of displays. For most users which uses 1 external 4, 5 or 6K scale. It is no biggie for these SoC

@steven871 Жыл бұрын

Very Helpful Art. Thank you. Today an M1 Max w 32 cores, 64GBRAM and 2TB SSD is marked down to $2500 from $4k list. Is this a crazy good deal, or for photo and video editing, or would I be better off spending $2500 on some version of M2 ?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Personally I would save the money and go with an M1 gen unless you want the latest and greatest.

@steven871 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art!

@bennycrime Жыл бұрын

YESSSSS my boi is back! Proper testing without the WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU! Or ONE SECRET SMALL GRANDMA REASON NOT TO BUY!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@craigjohnchronicles2504 Жыл бұрын

Love this videos, art. It's real world informative. I have a M1 Max Mac Studio, and even with Safari (12 tabs open), Messages, Activity Monitor, and Calendar open, that's it, no photo editing or video editing apps open, and I'm using 24GB of memory... Sheesh. Still 100% happy with my M1 Max. Might consider an upgrade when we get to the 3nm M3 Max Mac Studio....

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Sensible!

@skurt2752 Жыл бұрын

Gained a new sub. You’re killing it. Your review makes it clear. I upgraded from the very 1st M1 MacBook Pro 13in. Honestly even 2 and half years later that thing is running strong. I just bought the MacBook Pro M2 Max.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@user-jq6wm9mk6w Жыл бұрын

I asked the same question yesterday, but I want to ask it again. I'm using an a7r3 (4240mp) and I go out for photo shoots 2-3 times a month. I take between 500 and 700 pictures every time I go out. That also means that Capture One and Lightroom are not sensitive to import and export speeds. I am not a commercial photographer. If I buy a MacBook this time, I want to use it for about 5 years. I don't take panoramic photos, but mainly enjoy taking snaps, close-ups, or portraits. If so, would the basic specifications of the m2pro suffice? Which option would you recommend to increase among cpu, gpu, ram? If you choose the one with the highest priority.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

M1 Pro or M2 Pro will do just fine. Get 32 GB if you can. I would upgrade RAM over getting the higher spec SoC

@pauldittus Жыл бұрын

Great review. Trying to decide between getting the new M2 Max 38 GPU 32 GB 1 TB and a refurbished M1 Max 32 GPU 64GB 2 TB. Any thoughts?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I have a comprehensive video on laptop coming tomorrow. That should answer your questions. So a few hours longer

@pauldittus Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight awesome! Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks so much!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

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@pauldittus Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight this video was super helpful. Thank you so much! Those Max machines are super tempting, but I’m curious to see if I can make a base M1 Pro model 14” work and save the money for an upgrade down the road.

@tongtong1566 Жыл бұрын

I am a video editor using mainly premiere pro and davinci resolve, with thunderbolt ssd for all my footages. Am deciding between 32gb/ 1tb or 64gb/ 512gb since upgrading both will hurt my wallet too much. Which option do you think is better for my use case? Mainly just editing 4k with occasionally some light effects work. Thanks in advance.

@tongtong1566 Жыл бұрын

I think the key factor here is if 32gb is enough for single editing app+couple of firefox tabs. I dont open tons of apps and tabs at the same time😅

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Do you use a lot of effects or filters? If you do those I might get more RAM. But another consideration as well is that you can always add more storage but not RAM so I might choose a configuration with more RAM to start with. Hope this helps

@tongtong1566 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight 90% of my work don't involve heavy effects. But really appreciate your suggestion.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

😀

@kevinhedinphotography70 Жыл бұрын

Will you be doing a test with the 16" M1 Max 12CPU/38GPU version? That's the test I am excited to see.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Yes just need to film it :D

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Will have that out next week

@semkobalcerski Жыл бұрын

Are the results from Lightroom classic workflow 1:1 proportional with Adobe Bridge and ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) workflow?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I would say so but Bridge and ACR does not render a preview for all the files at open upon open like LRC. So the it is not a good comparison per say.

@semkobalcerski Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight What if I ask Bridge to Build the Cache? Wouldn't that be the same as LRC import?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I supposed so, and I would venture that they are about the same.

@yvesroy7991 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting and watching so many review for the M2 Max since I bought in 2019 my Dell XPS 15 i9-9998HK 64Gb with a 32Gb integrated video card supported by a 4Gb NVIDIA. My question related to run smoothly 4K video editing using Davinci Resolve 18 and Luminar 4, Aurora HDR and AI photo editing softwares. What would the best MacBook 14 M2 hardware configuration or if M1 Max could just do the job as well? Thanks.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Based on what you see here M1 Max will work just fine, I would use the money that you save to upgrade the RAM to 64 GB on the M1 Max

@yvesroy7991 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight thanks for your quick reply.

@yvesroy7991 Жыл бұрын

My next question relates to the M2 iPad Pro: I’m traveling a lot and look for portability and a machine that could do the job as well as the MacBook Pro Max 14 inches. Would you think that I could do 4K video editing with Davinci Resolve without any lag time?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

it will work. You can call me old, but video editing on iPad would drive me insane. I love the modality of working on a computer with precision editing. Tablet will not do it for me. I would make sure that you are certain it would work for you first before venturing out to do something that like and having to commit to it even though you might not like it at all.

@yvesroy7991 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your quick reply. Don’t worry I’m from old school too, but having 2 sons working in space engineering I have adapted to new technologies as they keep me connected to them. Miniaturization of electronics make things possible on a new scale. Keep doing your quality review.

@sergiomejia273 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Art. Your reviews are always top notch! I need an advise. I want to buy a new computer. I actually have a MBP i7/16GB/512GB from 2018. I want to buy a MBP 16" M2 Pro 16GB/1TB or Max 32GB/1TB that is my doubts. Should I get the M2 Max instead M2 Pro. The M2 PRO will be enough for LR, PS and sometimes premier pro. I'm a wedding photographer. I don't usually have many applications open, I just want to know if the max chip will make a big difference over the Pro. Thank you!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Great question, I’ll have a video on this out in the next few days so stay tuned.

@sergiomejia273 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight thank you so much. I’ll be waiting for it. 🤩

@jont4504 Жыл бұрын

is the slow ssd speed mentioned by som other reviewers just the 512G ssd? should i get 1 or 2TB?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

512 is slower but relative to what? It is already over 3GB/s. It is more that any one would need really and it does not effect the performance in anyway at all.

@vincentcestmois7529 Жыл бұрын

Hi greta video, I'm looking foward for the panorama test with 96 GB RAM and 128 GB on Ultra. Also, I'd like to see a more intense panorma test with 50 files. It seems to me that the more file there's the more exponential are the render times, and maybe the more beneficail would be the ram. Also, I'd like HDR Panos. Thanks

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

The key here is RAM and I don't think that I'll be testing the 96GB this cycle nor will I do a test on the 128GB Ultra. I don't have those in the studio and don't plan on ordering them, they cost too much.

@vincentcestmois7529 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight ins't there a return program where you live ? or maybe someone could lend you a Machine ?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I try not to do that. Most of the machines I keep, either that or they are my clients/friends ordered that I get to loan and test out. Right now I don't know any one with the top spec machine.

@oh_really8361 Жыл бұрын

Is it just me or Photoshop's Liquify tool is super laggy on my 16” M2 Max 32GB Ram? Lastly, when selecting object select in Lightroom’s masking option the app would just minimize back into dock. As a photographer, I'm extremely let down.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

This is what happens... bleeding edge and pro workflow / needs / expectation will never go hand in hand or be a balanced equation. It is optimization for the M2 that is lacking right now. Chip comes fast, because Apple is vertically integrated. App devs are not and even though we expect tie-in / co-operation between these large corporations, the reality is really very little to none and that is why we have software app that lag behind chip some time significantly.

@jamesstanley7263 Жыл бұрын

Everyone seems fixated on SSD speed. So I assumed I needed to budget for at least a 1tb SSD to get decent speed from it. So this video is really useful to me, as lightroom import/render time is important (export less so). Thank you :)

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Yeah, don't get fixated on SSD, it does not matter and if it does to you, on something that can read and write that 3GB/s plus then this is obviously not your machine. Glad this helps

@MojoPapiFPV Жыл бұрын

As a Pro Digital Tech I can tell you in Capture One we RARELY ever import. It is PRIMARILY a tethered capture tool so it would make sense they haven't prioritized optimizing card imports. Additionally when tethered, C1 will render a preview of the image but it needs to do so in the most efficient manner possible so it doesn't slow down tethered capture. Generally we will set preview size to minimum at 640px and occasionally if client wants low-res JPGs I may set preview size to 2560px, so that I can leverage quickproofs on export.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I hear you and I am aware of the primary use. I used it before in tether shooting. But here’s the thing, C1 is trying to market to LRC uses and if that is the case then there should be a toggle for different usage modal. Default it to tether but have a modal for the user group that they are trying to capture as well.

@RalfWeyer Жыл бұрын

Capture One had some improvements that point to people photography, especially with high volume. For example adjusting white balance and other things to create a whole set of images with similar mood. And it will use mainly skin tones to do so to make skin tones very much the same. And with that they are targeting event and wedding photography, and that certainly doesn’t happen tethered, you’d lose way too much flexibility and the ability to move around as you need to. So there is definitely a gap in Capture One here. Also it just doesn’t make sense at all to basically neglect the development on the hardware side and not utilise the available resources like CPU and GPU cores, and in the future Neural Engine cores as well (I could think of masking and stuff like that).

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@NDakota79 Жыл бұрын

I think this impressive. The lower and cheaper new config is beating the higher more expensive old config. And even in a smaller case with less cooling.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@stow8619 Жыл бұрын

Am I better going with a high spec m2 pro mini or a high spec M1 Max studio?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Great question, test on that coming....

@panaderomiguel Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Interesting indeed, since they are mostly the same cost

@plushphotography Жыл бұрын

🤔 just how many purple shirts does Art have?? Waiting to see if the M2 pro will be any different from the Max for Lr classic and photoshop work.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I have about a dozen of them in various shades ;) Testing M2 Pro now, and there are some surprises.

@Acconda Жыл бұрын

Just ordered a M1 Pro max 32GB 1TB for £250 less than the m2 pro 16GB 1TB, can’t wait to get it.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@coolbuddydude1 Жыл бұрын

I reach 27 GB of ram used on my 2019 MacBook Pro while Editing and retouching one 45 megapixel photo in Photoshop. I only have LRC and PS open.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I would choose 32 GB, no less.

@theFATEfactory Жыл бұрын

These reviews are 💯💯💯🙌🏽🙏🏽💻 I’m looking to get the 16” M2 Max with either 32gb or 64gb. Scared of missing out with the 32gb but not sure I need the 64gb 🥹 I’m coming from a 2017 i7 iMac / 4.2ghz / i7 / Radeon 580 / OWC 40gb ram / 1TB storage. The pressure never turns yellow, stays in green, but goes between 30-34.5gb usage when using LR and having Chrome with way too many windows open lol! So it does go above 32gb but only by 3gb(never gone past 35gb). The reason I’m confused is because it never turns yellow but, photos take up to 5 seconds to load between each photo(from a7Riii / 41MP) in LR, and video as low as 2.7K from a DJI Mavic 2P, or 1080 120fps(from a7Riii) stutter in playback. 4K from a7Riii play fine if no coloring or noise reduction is applied. Would love your opinion on which to get, 32 vs 64 ram? 🙏🏽 Maybe the slowness is simply the ancient i7 and not ram since it’s always green?? Thank you again!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

How long it takes is more slow chip than RAM. You should be ok with 32. Personally, if you keep your machine for a long time and you work with these large files, just go with 64GB and call it the day.

@theFATEfactory Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Thank you so much!! I definitely try and use the gear I have until it’s unbearable to use or the time it takes away from being able to deliver or even time away from family, become an issue 🥲 I just found two M2M’s on sale. 30core/32gb/2TB is $200 off. And 38core/64gb/1TB IS $250 off 🫢 It’s $150(between the two options) more for 64gb and 38core(not sure I even want 38 haha), but I lose 1TB. I did have my heart set on 2TB but this seems like a good deal… any thoughts here? 😅

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I would choose RAM. you can always expand SSD but not RAM

@theFATEfactory Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Ah yes… it’s a bit crazy. I’m slowly moving from 1920x1080/4K(8-bit) 24-120fps video on my full frame cameras to (10-bit) 24-240fps video and it doesn’t affect the ram as much as Lightroom does lol! High megapixel photos are no joke! For piece of mind I like what you’re recommending so thank you again 🙌🏽🥹🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 I do have THREE 2TB SSD’s that I work off of(Samsung T3/T5/& T7 lol) so I “was” hoping to make the MBP SSD like another project drive, but 1TB with a higher spec machine will do and I’ll just be better at forcing myself to work on less at one time haha 😳🤓 Your content and time is so helpful 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Cheers!!

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

😁

@jeromescott2113 Жыл бұрын

Good video overall, but I would have preferred to see a direct comparison of the M2 Max 16” with 64GB of RAM. Both the M1 Max and M1 Ultra you are comparing against have 64GB of RAM. So the fact that the M2 Max can beat an M1 Max with half the RAM is impressive, not disappointing as you insinuated.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

M2 Max 16 is coming, 64GB won't but logically analyzing the data, in these test only 2 task benefit from 64GB, Pano Merge and PS Huge. So I hear you but it won't make that big of a difference otherwise in these tests

@jaimeduncan6167 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your tests. I don't know what is happening inside Apple, but it does not look good. They are doing to Final Cut Pro the same they did to Aperture. Once they do they will lose all the KZfaqrs and the hallo effect. Even in their presentations, they use Resolve instead of FCP, and even today more than a year later FCP does not utilize the M1 ultra properly. Resolve on the other hand does.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

you are giving me the inspiration to move over to resolve :D and thank you for the info. Yes M1 Ultra is not utilized properly which I am not happy about.

@andyH_England Жыл бұрын

Apple has decided not to compete with developers because it deters devs from building their own apps. This has meant iPadOS apps have been slow to arrive, and Apple no doubt wants macOS devs to move the game on. It was a wrong business choice to compete with bread and butter devs, so rightly, Apple is pulling back. Now we see the results; no FCP for iPad, so DV Resolve is coded for iPad. Supporting devs and moving to other apps is my advice.

@Bigsargewaymo7 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, why I am thinking I want the M2 Macbook Pro 14 inch rather than the M1 Pro that is cheaper when you can find deals is because I heard the Macbook Pro 14 had a heating issue with the M1 Pro M1 Max chip, but evidently they beefed up the cooling solution so I am interested to see how hot it gets.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

in my testing of the M1 Max 14" there's a lot of talk about heat but it does not over heat or burn, it might thermo throttle more than the 16 but that is by design rather than a fault.

@Bigsargewaymo7 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thanks, I hear about a beefier cooling solution and that very well may be the case but I think that's negated due to the boost/cores they gave to the M2 Pro/Max because I see that during the bechmarks when the cpu is running full tilt it gets hotter than M1 Pro/Max so makes sense.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

M2 gen is hotter than M1, same / slightly improved node - more transistor. Once Apple move to smaller node it will help with the heat.

@GuidoValdata Жыл бұрын

First a big thank you for your reliability and constancy you support us with data. Then an important (to me) consideration: you should target video pros. And with this I mean in depth tests with davinci resolve studio, premiere and after effects. With in depth I mean non just exports, but timeline performance, stabilizer, color grades, noise reduction, the new audio effects (voice isolation) in davinci. Because that's a benchmark for actual productivity. And do that with h264, h265, 420, 422, prores and also a couple of raw files, namely a 6k braw, an 8k red and a canon C70 raw LT file. Now that would be a step up for tlyour channel. And I would forsee a huge increase of interest for your channel, because the machines you analyze are (should be) made for pros, and this is exactly what we would consider relevant information for the video industry. Thank you for your time and work. Best

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I hear you, I'll take that into consideration but then at the end of the day I am not a video pro by any means. I am a pro photographer who does light video, which is why the approach is as such. I would like more view but I don't necessary want to be the Swiss army knives of review either, where I can speak educatedly about how the app works and performs. But like I said, I'll give this some thought.

@Acquavallo Жыл бұрын

How can we get 56GB files on photoshop? My photoshop only allows me to create 2GB files max :(

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

You mean PSD only allows you to save 2GB max, you need to save it as PSB, photoshop large file format

@Acquavallo Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Oh thank you, I'll try that

@gurugamer8632 Жыл бұрын

Please test 14” MacBook Pro - M2 Max - 30c GPU - 32GB - 1TB vs 16” M1 Max - 32c GPU - 32GB - 1TB for video editing and rendering using Adobe premiere pro and Adobe after effects and FcP and DaVinci resolve then compare with m2 max 38c GPU 😮

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Editing wise you are not going to see much variation unless you apply many filter and effects. As far as export goes M2 Max and M1 Max uses the media engine and works at about the same speed based on what you seen in this video. There's not going to be much variation between these 2. When it comes to CPU performance you can already seen the results here.

@Jbishaan1234 Жыл бұрын

Ah man, I just ordered the Mid tier M2 Max 16 inch with 32 gb ram. Now I am double guessing if I should have gotten the 64 GB variant instead 🤔

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Only if you work with large files like I have shown. Otherwise 32GB is the sweet spot for most users really.

@Jbishaan1234 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Yup thats what I was guessing before shelling the extra $500. But man your videos are awesome. Love the detailed walkthrough and testing 🙌🏽 Cheers

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@BJJPANDA Жыл бұрын

You will consider m2pro vs m1max same specs (ram memory) thanks

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I would look and see if you can the extra GPU or not, if so then get the MAX, if not pro will do just fine.

@BJJPANDA Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight for more context right now at bestbuy 2799$ the 1max 32gb ram 1tb vs m2-pro 16gb 1tb 2699$

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Ah, I would go for the Max. Give this a watch kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mq1yl8tex77depc.html

@reyesbaglietto Жыл бұрын

👍

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@Enconscienator 11 ай бұрын

More extensive benchmarking than Max Tech!

@ArtIsRight 11 ай бұрын

Just more photo related, they do their thing, I do mine ;)

@matthewapsey4869 Жыл бұрын

Is M1 Max good for gaming?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

There are other videos on this, I would check those out, I don't really game.

@saulramirez727 Жыл бұрын

Second

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jftvrwk Жыл бұрын

The difference of 32gb between the M1 vs M2 is pretty hefty, no?

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

Not based on what I have shown in the video.

@framedthunder6436 Жыл бұрын

this is unfair the 14 inch hold backs the performance of the max chips the 16 icnh m2 pro max has more performance and clocks higher

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

ok well this is the test, the metric is still there.

@codenamegrs9278 Жыл бұрын

why they soldering the SSD tho and overcharging 3x-4x the price per TeraByte? If the SSD fails you .. they'll charge you 50% of the price of the machine because the way they go about the repair is by replacing your whole motherboard (basically all the guts of your machine). Absolutely wasteful.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

One way of looking at it, perhaps a custom build PC might be better suited for some.

@URAZKIVANER Жыл бұрын

One size fits all if it is a stretchable fabric BTW, clearly this Apple design doesn't have this 100 year old mentality;) An upgradable machine would fit to anyone. Of course it is a financial decision by Apple so no surprises ...

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

It is an idiom and like any company finance comes first... so not much to be done here clothing or not.

@andyH_England Жыл бұрын

That is a false premise. Apple Silicon is on a new architecture based around non-upgradeable A-chips from the iPhone and iPad. They were designed from the ground up to not be upgradeable, and no one ever complains that phones and tablets, which can cost more than most laptops, are not upgradeable. You need to change your psyche; just because the older tech was upgradeable does not mean that it is the best solution as tech advances.

@pjp967 Жыл бұрын

capture is a terrible lame company. Can't wait for a competitor to show up on the market

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

You mean LRC? There's really nothing on the horizon yet... So on the mainstream side of things, it is LRC or C1. There are some other company but their brands combined has small minutia of the overall market share.

@pjp967 Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight no I meant capture one. I have to stay with them because my clients use them to capture on set. Otherwise I would have been long time gone. It's been 2 years we have m1 and it's not even upgraded properly yet and still so slow. And no proper customer service. They definitely know they don't have competition. A shame if you ask me.

@ArtIsRight Жыл бұрын

I hear you, especially for tether capture. LRC is ok.