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Most of the reviewers on KZfaq must be used to upgrading their iPads every year or something, cuz most of them say that this new iPad Pro M4 is not worth the upgrade. I, myself was still using the 1st generation iPad Pro until last week, and found this new iPad Pro to be an absolute must after I bought it.

Sorry. I do enjoy this channel, but you could play this review next to the first one and see zero difference. The title was “two weeks later” but all we got was the same tired discussion of the features. Nothing about how it performed in real-world scenarios, running real-world apps and in real world use-cases. For example, I went to a conference the other day and used just my 11” M4 iPad Pro to to take notes. The battery made it through the day and 1 hour flight home, but the range anxiety kicked in around 2pm and I started to shut the case when I wasn’t writing to conserve power. How about using it on long flights (you can simulate that) if you’re not going overseas. The weight difference does help with holding it while reading. How is it when you connect to difference displays? How is it when you turn ProMotion off to increase battery life. Does that change the writing experience? Does that increase the battery? I could answer all of these, but my point is y’all shouldn’t just create the same video with a different title. Dig deeper and think of what potential users might want to know before buying.

Anyone else watching a bunch of reviews to try and justify the purchase but just can’t quite make a decision?

My M2 iPad Pro still plays my games, checks the weather and news, and email really well… 😉

The one thing pushes me more to the M4 is the new camera position

I actually got rid of an M1 iPad Pro 12.9” due to it being just too big & bulky for my needs at the time a little over a year ago. Well wouldn’t you know I walked into an Apple Store & tried out this 11” & immediately was smitten. I was all set to buy a new M2 Air but the screen just seemed off putting to my aging eyes. Zero issues with the tandem OLED screen on this 11” Pro. I instantly was hooked & knew I was leaving there with one. The reduced size & weight for me are just icing on a very sweet cake. I did however exercise a little common sense going for the base “poor man’s” model with only 256gb of storage & the 9 core CPU. Can’t say I’ve seen any issues with a binned M4 chip or non glare free screen.

The problem with most of those youtube reviewers is that they don’t have time to work with the tools they test. In the end, they just mostly consume, not using the deeper apps that can be used with them. Finally not helpful reviews. It’s better to check the pro reviews in your domain right away. Far helpful.

I just ordered mine, been a long time samsung guy and i respect both samsung and apple. Excited to get it.

I wish reviewers would go back to saying if you’re using a 2018 iPad, this will be a huge upgrade or something similar. I’m still using a 2018 & debating upgrading. It is crazy how much they’ve gone up since that model imo.

I purchased the 13” M4. Why? The larger display over my 11” Ipad air. (for my old eyes) The keyboard is a joy to use and is similar to laptops. It is easier to navigate the ipad with this new keyboard. I use the ipad for video and photo editing. I am learning Procreate so the new pencil is going to work out well. I’m not sure what future proof means these days. However, this new ipad is perfectly suited for my apps and other personal uses.

M4 supports 8k hardverno, and 4 times better gpu, does this mean that m4 is 4 times better than m2 in rendering and exporting 8k? About 4x.

Upgraded from Air 5 and I can’t remember the last time I’ve been so blown away by a new Apple product. Anybody who says is isn’t about the OLED screen needs to have their eyes checked, because it’s ALL ABOUT the OLED display. The blacks are ridiculous. The color accuracy is fantastic. The edges are near perfect. They achieve crazy brighness with virtually 100% uniformity. This is the best display available anywhere on any device, Period. (Yeah, it’s THAT GOOD.)

I have the M1 iPad Pro 11” and the display upgrade is going to be amazing tbh. It’s supposed to be delivered today and I am stoked!

I see a lot of reviewers who appear dismissive over the thinness. As a daily user, generally in tablet mode, on the go, taking notes when meeting with staff and clients, that ‘thinness’ equals serious weight reduction. And that weight reduction is far, far more valuable than additional battery life. 10 hours plus is more than sufficient, but the ability to be able to hold the 13” comfortably in hand and take notes - that is a real world improvement for pros, I’d suggest.

It’s like I am watching the same iPad review over and over again since they launched. Dont these KZfaqrs have more analysis to do like in depth comparison on screens , audio, software , real life scenarios other than video editing ?

Upgraded almost solely for the landscape camera / Face ID, as dumb as that sounds, it bothered me that bad in the old design lol.

I think I’m not alone in this when I say I will wait for WWDC and see their presentation with iPadOS. Upgrading to something prettier that I would use the exact same way just doesn’t justify me paying that price

Thinner and lighter is actually a big deal. I use my m1 12.9” all the time with one hand, and it’s heavy and uncomfortable. This is closer to perfection of the tablet form factor.

Keywords: "FUTURE PROOF" ... 2 years from now this will still be a beast.. All things considered, if one needs justification for purchasing: Do I see my money back within a 2 -3 year time span with profit? I would say yes to anyone that wants a device that can have everything thrown at it and it still run super smooth... Ive taken mine over my lappy for the past few days and now leave my happy lappy on the desk.... I can print wirelessly if need be and perform all other office needs on it for 1/2 the weight 4X the speed.. I can't whip my laptop out to take a photo / video without having an exterior connected(How odd would that look 🫣). IF I'm knee deep in work and spot something while using the iPad , Eze money to catch a photo! The features coming in 9 days are going to make the fence toddlers turn into hurdle jumping grown folks within a few shakes... Love the review and advice as always!

Hey Apple, anytime you run into the option to make your device much thinner than the previous generation, just make it the same size with a larger battery.

I upgraded from an M1 iPad Pro, and IMO the biggest upgrade is the new keyboard. If you’re not going to be getting the Magic Keyboard and you already have an M1+ iPad Pro, save your money.

I don't really care about MacOS on iPad but what is really annoying when using an external display is app limitations with filling the whole screen. Netflix for example; cannot go into full screen mode, your stuck looking at a bigger app but still see a few inches of the border. This shouldn't be decided on the app, iPad OS should have a setting to fill the screen. Making changes like this to enhance an iPad in docked mode would go a long way!

People reviewing the new iPad M4 and saying that Apple didn’t have to make the Ned iPads that thin and light - while at the same time really loving the new Magic Keyboard - show how little they understand about how much weight and weight distribution on the iPad matters to the design of that keyboard.

I got the new 11” M4 Pro to replace my Mini 6. The OLED screen makes this iPad just a joy to use if you are coming from an LCD screen. I didn’t buy the Apple keyboard since my need for typing on this unit is very minimal. But if I need to use a keyboard my old Logitech Keys-To-Go is an excellent accessory. I didn’t upgrade my M1 12.9” with the Apple keyboard. The Mini-LED screen on the 12.9” is still an outstanding display.

I just upgraded from the 2022 and the only thing I don’t like is that it’s not compatible with the Magic Keyboard/Apple Pencil from 2022. You have to buy all new accessories for the M4 which adds another $450 onto your price tag. The only reason I opted to upgrade was because my screen on my last tablet had shattered, so I felt obligated to. Other than that, it runs just the same, does everything else the same, doesn’t really blow my skirt up. Take care of your things.

For the previous gen 11” iPad Pro, it is worth it for the display upgrade. Only the previous gen 12.9” had the Mini-LED display.

Im watching this and justifying the purchase of an ipad pro, retailing at 1300€ primarily for my mom who uses ipad for cooking recepises… I just wish the best for her.

purchased the ipad pro M4 13”, upgrading from the 2nd gen ipad 11” pro, with the A12z chip. Figured get in now before there’s a run on them for iOS 18 AI capabilities

The real question for me, Is ProMotion worth the price difference over the Air M2? I’m still rocking iPad Pro 10.5 with 120hz

The screen is a huge upgrade since I wanted to use it both indoors and outdoors. Thinner is better, I wouldn't have wanted a thicker iPad to be a hassle to carry around. The camera flash upgrade is nice to scan documents with. That 5G service is awesome and much more useful in some situations than taking a MacBook. I never imagined liking the Magic Keyboard so much, it's expensive but well worth it. I'm coming from an iPad Air 2 and this upgrade has made my life way more productive on the go.

Still rocking well with the 2020 iPad Air 🤣 At best I will be going for the M2 IPad Air 13” if I need the upgraded, I doubt many of us will be needing the power of the M4 🤣

I have a 4th gen air 64 GB. The other day I held the 11 inch M4 Pro in hand and it felt so small. The colours too weren't as fantastic as everyone claim. On the other hand the 13 inch model was just wow.

I wonder if i’m alone. I ordered my iPad Pro 2 GB from the Apple Store and I’ve been told I have to wait until the second week in June at the earliest. I’m in the UK. Just wonder if anyone else it’s waiting. It is frustrating when you see all the reviews and adverts for it and you can’t get it.

No mention of battery life, or side-by-side performance comparison of booting, heavy workloads etc? Feels more like boilerplate yapping than a in-depth review.

I currently have iPad Pro 10.5” 2017 and planning on upgrade soon. Which one to buy, iPad Air M2 13” or iPad Pro M4 11”? Considering the price is similar (around $1K in 256gb) and I still need to buy apple pencil as well. I am using it for media & note taking. For heavy use, I still have MBP M1 16 inch

I find that I use the ipad more than anything, from checking Ring camera alerts, to watching the tracking map of a delivery, reading news from all my regular sites (NOT the Fake News MSM), making MEMEs on the spot when an idea pops in my head. I love how I can screenshot and crop a pic or news story and post it almost instantly on my favorite X sites in seconds. I can instantly zoom in when the text is too small, (or push ads off the screen). I have the Firefox app but it's basically still Safari so I can't use Ad Block on youtube. ( I then have to use my Macbook Air with Firefox. I won't watch youtube without Ad Block.) But anyway, I was looking to upgrade to this M4 ipad but from what I've seen, it may not be worth it at this time. I do feel my old ipad is getting a bit sluggish or maybe I'm changing websites too much too quickly. The plan was to also upgrade my wifi to 6e for the M4 ipad. When I plug an ethernet directly into my old ipad there is a bit of a boost, so my wifi is likely slowing it down. I've just about worn out the battery, having to recharge at least twice a day now, but at least it recharges to 100% pretty fast.

Watch Ipad gaming will start to become a lot bigger now that they are strong enough to run AAA titles. A portable gaming tablet has a nice ring to it…On top of being my primary work device. The future is with the power of these devices.

Bit of a shame they deleted the wide camera lens , it’s probably not widely used , but there are circumstances where it is handy , and it is already an expensive device with the name “ Pro ‘ on the end of it , to my way of thinking, why take features away !

Went with the new 13" Pro, upgrading from the M1 12.9. Real happy with the upgrade - love the new display and the new Magic Keyboard. Necessary purchase? nah, but glad I did it. Wife got the old 12.9 & MKB, upgrading from her old Air 2 so she's happy, too.

The fitness and lightness make a difference in a 74 year-old person with weak wrist and fingers. I could tell while it was in the box already late it was. That kind of amazed me. Also with 74 year-old eyes have had less headaches and ice swelling since receiving the new iPad Pro. The magic keyboard is unnecessary for me and would only be extra weight and in the way.

The pro took a step back with the removal of the mmWave. The air is catching up to the pro and it has all the power I need.

I upgraded from 10.5" Pro to 11" M4 Pro mainly because of very shoddy battery life on 10.5". Other than that for casual content viewers and light game playing for users like me, I don't see a great user experience change between the two. The 10.5" was still fast enough for these applications. Yes the newer screen is better but you get used to whatever you are using. Face ID does not work if you are close to screen such as reading in bed. While I and users like me would probably be happy with an Air, the Pro improved sound is a big deal to me. New Pro has battery health indicator display which is a welcome change, not sure if this was just implemented for this model or has been there for awhile but not present in my 10.5". Hopefully 6-8 years with this model.

You mean best tablet experience. This shit is awesome

If you’re speaking of the 13 inch iPad Pro then yes there is no display difference. But if you’re like me and others who enjoy the 11 inch iPad Pro the new OLED display is an upgrade over the LCD offered in the last model in that size.

Looks like it might be kind of top-heavy with the keyboard. If you angle it all the way back, does it rock back onto the hinge/USB-C port?

Do you think that the 1TB model , worth it. In order to have the extra core and 16GB RAM. For the future?. Thanks!.

I've heard people say the speakers on this thing are pretty crappy. For what this costs I'd have thought they'd do better.

I have a 11 inch m2 wish I would have gotten 12.9 inch so may get the 13inch m4

I just bought the magic keyboard, the esr one looks pretty good

Wait, is the ESR keyboard better or the Mac magic keyboard better just curious before I buy another keyboard that you push

What you said about the tmobile cellular model is on point and not to be an ad or anything but seriously right now if one adds a iPad line to their plan mobile is taking $230 off the iPad you want which is how I got the M4 iPad Pro 11' inch for $200 less and my overall bill only went up by $18 for the insurance that I choose (you can get apple care but it doesn't cover lost or stolen items where as tmobile coverage does) and the 5G is very good too so no more wifi only iPads for me.

Display is waay better if you are using it in bright sunshine. Usable vs not usable. If you do that, it could be worth the upgrade. Although, at these prices, its not really a good value proposition for almost everyone.

How serious is the grainy screen complaint on the 12.9 m4? Does it make the 11 the safer buy?

Thing is... getting the older versions means you really miss out on new tech if you're a 11' user bc of the display

I have an iPad Air 3rd gen. Still works.not sure I need to spend over $1,000.

Just upgraded from the original iPad to the M4 11. Still trying to decide if I want to keep it. Marginally it’s better.

Finally don’t have to worry about black bars being grey when watching videos on this…

Great Review!

Are those oil stains on the keys of the magic keyboard? Is staining easy on the black? Which would you choose-black or white? 8:50

Did they upgrade/improve mouse function. I mean works just as good as a pc?

I really just want the Pencil Pro…. Too bad i’m gonna have to upgrade my whole iPad setup for that😀

Good video - thanks I too am waiting for WW…. Curious is it light enough to truly use it for an extended period of time (30 minutes plus) in tablet mode? I had a 12.9 and did not like it but really would like the larger screen for note taking, crating etc.

Any other photographers here? I used the M1 iPad for photo editing, and it was awesome! Except for one thing - the screen was not color accurate and simultaneously not calibrate-able. Really influenced my final products and I’ll be selling my M1 and getting this one for that reason.

Thank you for the review

So, what did you learn after 2 weeks that you didn't know in the first few days?

having reviewed the specs of the new iPad Pro and the 13 inch\ iPad Air I have decided to hold onto my 2022 ipad pro seems to be a cut above the Air iPad Air and quite a deal cheaper than the overhyped ipad pro

The links in the description are not for the 13 inch m4 pro

At 0:27 one can see how the screen stuttering while he's navigating. Apple having serious display problems or chip problems. Anyway nice review without mentioning about the mediocre speakers.

Does the cellular version still not allow us to receive SMS messages like for verification messages?

i’m still using my ipad pro 12.9 2018 right now🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉,

@macrumors What are the specs on the iPad you tested? 16 gb or 8 gb? Helpful for reference

I’m still using the 2020 iPad Pro model. Wondering if this is worth the upgrade.

well, I have an Ipad pro 10.5 from 2018... so Im gonna upgrade lol.

I have the M2 IPad Pro 12.9 from 2020 and it still works GREAT

The biggest selling feature is being untethered from WiFi especially if your job has you on location a lot

Depends on use case. I'm a heavy user of on device AI (particularly on device transcription) My 2nd Hand M1 11 inch IPP was ok, but since upgrading to the M4 model, transcription times seem to have improved by over 60%! 😎 Needed larger storage space too 🙂. V happy with my purchase and curious to see what happens with iPadOS 18. Enjoyed your video, thanks! 🙏

I’m glad it’s as thin and light as it is.

I don't have an iPad Pro. My iPad Air (the first model!) died about a year ago. I really do want to buy another iPad. I would use it for drawing, writing and KZfaq. I've heard the pencil pro is amazing on the new iPad Pro. What do you all think?

I’m happy with the iPad 10th gen

Can anyone tell me what the escape key does on the Magic Keyboard? I haven’t found anything it does when pressed…

Thank You For Not LYING To Us About This OMG Review 😂😂😂

Wow you can scroll through Facebook SOOOO FAST on this thing!!!

6:18 What made you put the device on T-Mobile rather than what I assume is Verizon?

Awesome & Thanks :)

Question for the audience. What color should I buy? I like the silver but do you have to get the white magic keyboard to match it? Or would you go silver with the white keyboard?

My wallet said no this year, I'll buy the ipad pro m5 13 inch 1TB next year.

how are you playing super mario on the ipad?

I don’t like the removed features.. I don’t think thinness was worth it nor should be the ultimate goal, they have air for a reason

I have a 2018 iPad Pro and every time Apple releases an updated version I compare the two. I have not seem much of a difference no matter how many times Apple claimed it’s “amazing”. I am looking to upgrade now as my battery is still good but not as good as a new model. Every time I go into look at the 2024 model I hear that it’s incredible thin, “WHO CARES”! The 2018 model is thin what difference does a couple of mm make! NONE! Squeeze some more battery in there or something! Still looking to upgrade but do I want to spend £2600! Probably! OS is Ok but not good enough!

Wanna know a secret? I’m more than just my armpit sweat! -Anyone else getting this bizarre ad for deodorant?

I have the 4th generation iPad Pro with the A12z. It’s a great iPad but I use some CPU intensive apps and the M4 based iPad would be great to have right now. I don’t want MacOS on the iPad, (try VNC if you really want to try it), but I wouldn’t mind multi user accounts. Focus is awesome and kinda functions as multi user accounts, but not quite obviously.

M1 and M2 were terribly slow and incapable of working with more than a handful of browser tabs before unloading them.

Buy the Air M2

Please stop advising people that they don't need to buy the M4 iPad, this is a very wrong advice. My advice is upgrade every time Apple makes a major upgrade, and the new OLED panel and M4 chip are truly major upgrades along with the new Magic keyboard, if you buy an iPad and plan to hold on to it for a long period of time then you have to buy this one so u don't feel outdated in one or 2 years, i upgrade my iPad every 5-6 years even if mine is still working decently but the major upgrades are worth it and keeps you future-proof

Please tell me how things are with the battery life on the iPad Pro 13" M4? I don’t like the battery life on my iPad Pro 12.9" M2, when i watch KZfaq on it via Wi-Fi, the battery percentage melts before your eyes... Does the iPad Pro 13" M4 last longer when watching KZfaq videos, Netflix, etc.? Or does it have the same battery life as the iPad Pro 12.9" M2?

I don't recommend updating your iPad to the M4 version. I spent almost 2k to do so and all the feelings I have are anger at Apple again. I had a great keyboard with my previous iPad Pro. The only keyboard you can get now is the 299/349 dollar versions which are extremely heavy and bulky. Apple is attempting to replace their laptops with iPads and this is yet another plan from Apple to force us to do what they want. They discontinued the wonderful thin cloth like covered keyboard which allowed an A-frame stand while you are on a couch or in bed. Now the only two versions of covers you can get is the extremely bulky and heavy keyboard which is meant only for a desk top or a tri fold cover that doesn't allow for rigid A-frame standing of the iPad while on a couch or in bed. Many of us use the iPad on other than desk top use. Today, Apple doesn't even understand what millions of customers do with their products nor what we want. I regret updating every item I buy from Apple now. 1500 dollars every time I get a new iPhone Pro and I can't tell a single difference. The software is broken EVERY time they release it. Tim Cook needs to go. He's proven ten fold that he is not a competent CEO. He is disconnected from his programmers and quality control. He is disconnected from his design team. Look at the wireless fingerprint keyboard. The Space Grey (not Space Black) metal has been out for years yet there is no fingerprint operated extended wireless keyboard for Space Grey laptops. He removed the ratings from all Apple products on the Apple.com shop. Why? Becuase he is very low character thats' why. If I had read all this about the product I would have never bought it. Today we have to stop buying accessories until we get the main product becuase there is a 75% chance you'll want to return it all.

What game was that

watching this video on my 11 inch iPad Pro my 11 inch iPad Pro M1 is good enough to watch all my free movies tv show and KZfaq

For musicians would they be interested if Apple made a midi controller keyboard for the iPad Pro?