M4 iPad Pro review - too ambitious?

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17 күн бұрын

The new 2024 M4 iPad Pro 13” and 11” are astounding pieces of technology. They incorporate the best OLED display tech I’ve ever seen along with the bleeding edge of powerful, efficient processor silicon and cram it all into an “impossibly thin” chassis. This new slimness makes these devices a joy to use and handle, especially with the redesigned Magic Keyboard! In this video I give my initial review after using the 13” model for a few days. I discuss the new thin design, insane display quality, incredible performance with the M4 along with briefly touch on the keyboard and Apple Pencil Pro (both of which I’ll cover in dedicated review videos). Equally important though - I highlight the fact that these new iPad Pros may be “too ambitious” for what they currently run, iPadOS 17. All we can do is hope that at WWDC ’24, iPad Pro is finally graced with an operating system it deserves!
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@LordAshura 14 күн бұрын

99% of users probably would not see day to day difference of this ipad over a M2, M1, or heck even a 2018 Ipad pro

@mariaerdgzn 14 күн бұрын

The only thing I wish I had is the new Apple Pencil, but yeah I bought my M2 7 months ago (and finished paying for it last month) so I won’t be changing it anytime soon

@titinicknicktoce9861 14 күн бұрын

exactly using ipad pro 2020..

@mikel5391 14 күн бұрын

yeah mostly... only time you'll notice a slight difference is doing something specific. Something high intensive app or program like editing or gaming. Other than that for the most part, they'll feel the same.

@techinrl9869 14 күн бұрын

True. Most people will also not notice any difference in day to day stuff on an MacBook Air compared to a Mac Studio Ultra. No day to day stuff stresses out any M-series processor. It’s only when you get to the heavy duty apps where the power may make a difference.

@mikel5391 14 күн бұрын

@@techinrl9869 Yep.. very true. Ipad pros even the 2018 A12x chip is already powerful and smooth for day to day stuff. Now if your gaming or editing on an 2018 iPad Pro now in 2024 where these apps are getting updated. You'll notice a difference.. Like gaming for example on Cod Mobile or something similar where its high graphics. The a12x Chip on the 2018 would lag and or freeze the game. Same thing with other high intensive programs. But for basic tasks, texting, emailing, web surfing, watching videos, music, spreadsheets, to do lists, pdfs and all that. the 2018 is still more than enough powerful and smooth for that. And same with MacBook Air M1. STILL a beast to this day.

@AlanMitchellTech 15 күн бұрын

I think it’s cool that they put an m4 chip in this new iPad before the Mac gets it. This tells me Apple may be planning something good with these new iPads.

@dshu15 14 күн бұрын

Not necessarily, they’re likely just future proofing since they release iPad Pro every 18-24 months.

@jakoreian 14 күн бұрын

They had to for the tandem oled display, no other reason than that.

@palps797 14 күн бұрын

Glaze

@hey_bucklebob 14 күн бұрын

I don't really think so. 2 reasons: we've thought this before when they added the M1 chips and nothing really materialised, unless we count stage Manager, which came out over a year later. Secondly, I think Apple are pivoting hard to ensure they keep up with AI developments, and I the M4 is designed with AI in mind (?)

@palps797 14 күн бұрын

@@hey_bucklebob I think they released it to keep up with other companies like nvidia But it really isn’t that impressive

@TLSYoutube 14 күн бұрын

I agree they might not have to make an macOS copy but the IPad OS should have a PRO version when connected to keyboard and mouse that transforms the iPad into a more MacOS like experience

@delanodouglas6390 14 күн бұрын

Perhaps they could add MacOS when connected to a keyboard and mouse or track pad, a monitor and power. The issue with MacOS and an iPad would likely be power usage and battery drainage.

@tomajovanovic9566 14 күн бұрын

I was going to buy the M4 iPad but then I changed my mind and chose the S9 Ultra just because of the Dex mode. It’s a shame Apple still didn’t make that function available

@bovineox1111 14 күн бұрын

This is the rumour

@ricarmig 13 күн бұрын

@@delanodouglas6390 the macOS and iPadOS ATM share a huge chunk of their core and are optimized the same way, that’s why you get great battery life out of a MBA. They differ mainly in terms of UI, Rosetta 2 and how apps present themselves to the user. I bet if they compiled a macOS but with the iPadOS UI, it would run as you wanted it to. It’s not a question of if, but why doesn’t Apple do that. They will eventually do that, but not until sales go down quite a bit. This iPad will sell better because of the screen and powerful M4, maybe when the next version is out they’ll do that but without the Rosetta 2.

@NoahHerman 15 күн бұрын

I re-uploaded! "ambitious" was misspelled in the intro. I spent way too long making it to keep that typo online lmao. Hope you enjoy :)

@aleph_1ne 14 күн бұрын

too ambishice 🔥

@NoahHerman 14 күн бұрын

@@aleph_1ne i saw "ambitous" and went AH HELL NAH, we gotta go bald 😂😭

@PLANETWATERMELON 14 күн бұрын

Happens to all of us KZfaqrs.

@stanford19 14 күн бұрын

Appreciate the OCD bro hahaha. I honestly don't know what users want from the iPad.. but I do agree that making the interface more mac like when its docked makes sense. Apart from that, the iPad already excels at what a slab of glass is supposed to excel at.

@specialmoose 8 күн бұрын

@NoahHerman what video editing software are you using?

@m.hreels9822 15 күн бұрын

I just got done watching your shorts. Perfect timing to watch the whole video 👍🏻

@just4justincase 14 күн бұрын

I’m fine with it being too ambitious. Reminds of of old school Apple pushing the envelope with bleeding edge just for the sake of it, even if most people won’t utilize or understand it. If this can somehow lead to iPhones getting thinner and lighter again while retaining their rigidity and battery life I’m all for it.

@liam4184 13 күн бұрын

I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't push the prices up to crazy levels as well. Innovation is good, but not if no one can afford it.

@MyNameJeff.. 12 күн бұрын

Lol dork

@bryanbuff 14 күн бұрын

Been fun watching your channel grow and your skills sharpen.

@nuggyfresh6430 14 күн бұрын

Fantastic review thanks! With good understanding of the tandem OLED

@danielworrell3438 14 күн бұрын

Coming from a m1 IPad Pro user the 3 upgrades that interest me are the 1000 nits on sdr sustained the m4 chip and the oled display

@prestonmacgotthamac3735 14 күн бұрын

Exactly why I’m upgraded only less self esteem people will disagree

@ricarmig 13 күн бұрын

@@prestonmacgotthamac3735 people don’t have to agree with you buy, it’s your choice, it doesn’t have to make sense

@prestonmacgotthamac3735 13 күн бұрын

@@ricarmig right

@user-gy3kl5rd1l 13 күн бұрын

1. What you will normally see is 600 nits. 1000 nits is only for extremely bright condition. 2. m4 is just a marketing twist. Nothing special compared to m3. 3. Oled display is good, but since iPad display even with ips lcd was so good, most of the people cannot tell the difference unless placing them side by side. I save your money mate.

@danielworrell3438 13 күн бұрын

@@user-gy3kl5rd1l I have a m1 iPad Pro mini led with 600 nits sdr and 1600 nits hdr I’ve had it for a while hdr content looks amazing but its limited and sdr content is not so bright the 1000 nits sustained on sdr will make a difference

@samuelj.amakiri1727 14 күн бұрын

Hi Noah, great video, top content. What do you use to achieve your iPad desktop look please? It's absolutely insane and I need to have it. Thanks.

@devanshmalikk 14 күн бұрын

intro was golden❤

@Patrick76399 14 күн бұрын

Hi. Do you have the M1 and M2 iPad Pros as well for a side-by-side comparison video with the M4 iPad Pro?

@dedark5067 13 күн бұрын

It sucks that only the pro models have 120hz otherwise I'd take the iPad Air 10/10 times. It feels like the pro is providing power that almost nobody needs.

@marcincwiertnia4692 14 күн бұрын

Top quality video. Amazing!

@dmarr4941 14 күн бұрын

That intro was AMAZING. Great job!

@ChrisLawley 14 күн бұрын

Great work Noah!

@klaymoon1 13 күн бұрын

Great review! As an owner of a glorified $2k youtube watching machine (M1 12'9"), I agree with everything said here.

@george3814 14 күн бұрын

Killer into Noah! Got an M4 iPad Pro 13 inch coming tomorrow, upgrading from a 11 inch (Pre-M1 Series) Excited to upgrade.

@fernandosilva 14 күн бұрын

Wow I’m even more excited for mine

@shanemontgomery8846 13 күн бұрын

Been waiting for this.

@nikhafizal1246 14 күн бұрын

Hey Noah, with the new ludicrous M4 upgrade, does it support output of 120hz to external monitors though? 4k 120hz to be exact. A bit dizzying and jarring for me to let my eyes keep changing from the 120hz ipad to a huge external 60hz monitor.

@allemander 13 күн бұрын

Fabulous work, as usual, Noah. 👏🏼👏🏼

@bentendo_ 14 күн бұрын

Honestly i think it would be awesome if apple designed a feature for ipadOS that operated similarly to Samsung DeX.

@Uwu-0-0-0 14 күн бұрын

You earned a subscriber, well done bro!

@MrMcgoo33 14 күн бұрын

Been using an iPad Pro 12.9 (2018) and time to upgrade. Not pushing the limits on any of the devices. Trying to decide to buy the iPad Pro more for display and touch screen or buy a MB Pro or MB Air for about the same price. Not sure, but thinking I’m going to miss the touch screen

@daa5014 7 күн бұрын

120HZ, Cellular, touch screen, pencil input, FaceID biometric, dockable on keyboard. My M1 iPad Pro replaced my computer. This ups the ante. The OLED panel is just awesome.

@Everyday-man 9 күн бұрын

What is the screen like after longer use? I use my ipad Pro 2020 11 inch, which is LCD for work and leisure. Emails, Teams, Excel, Word, movies, TV shows, procreate, and gaming. All combined, like 3 plus hours per day. Does the oled 1000 nits of brightness hurt your eyes at all??

@KC-fl4sx 14 күн бұрын

Gave you a sub for the simple fact that you called out the absurdity of the 'does it bend' videos.

@timnadeau1250 14 күн бұрын

Great video yet again Noah. Incredible device, insane hardware, objective review. Let’s see what goes down like you said with iPad OS 18 at WWDC. Not holding my breath tho…..

@MorganTheGorgon 14 күн бұрын

These upgrades seem really substantial, I think this is the best update in years-I’m going to stay with my 2021 M1 Pro, though, because $129 for a new pencil, $349 for a new keyboard plus $1199 for a new iPad is just yeesh. I really hate that the new accessories aren’t compatible with iPads released even just a year ago, and vice versa. Excited to see what comes from WWDC this year tho 👀

@Mr_useless 14 күн бұрын

I kinda want the new keyboard because it actually has a escape button

@demetricjackson8046 14 күн бұрын

That’s the only thing I wanted was a new keyboard for my M1 iPad. Why wouldn’t apple make it for all iPads. waiting on someone to test would the M1 or M2 work on new Magic Keyboard

@jessechristman1471 14 күн бұрын

But can it lay flat on a table?

@b3naqua 14 күн бұрын

Can’t wait to try the 11” M4 vs the 2018 11” 🤯

@NicholasMcClure 13 күн бұрын

Sick opening Noah!

@atimm9497 15 күн бұрын

Easily the best review so far. I wish I saw the Keyboard more since that’s half the product for me. But very informative and well made otherwise 👏

@intestinomedicino 14 күн бұрын

I don't get reviewers nowadays, it's just too much cpu, too thin, too iPad like. Don't get me wrong your videos are in par with the ones from MKBHD but I don't watch these type of videos to decide wether to buy or not to buy a product, but because they are really funny and entertaining and clearly the production is top of the notch, I just can't stop watching them; meanwhile the videos from the old lady with cool t-shirts, gets to the pros and cons of each product and who should buy it, and so far she has been right about them.

@phamthohongduong 13 күн бұрын

What is that MagSafe ring/loop thing you got on the back of your iPhone? 😄

@ktms1188 14 күн бұрын

I’m kind of conspiratorial, my thought is they release the iPads a month and a half before WWDC, just outside of the return windows, . That so they can judge the sales numbers to decide if they need to release the most advanced iPadOS features to bump up sales, ie more MacBook like. Then if the sales numbers hit where they needed, they can shave off a few features for the next release to pump sales then.

@RageEWasTaken 12 күн бұрын

i have a question , (please reply) is the new ipad pro TOO thin , or is it like , still comfortable ?

@dodger1x 14 күн бұрын

Now I get it why they made it so thin! The Magic Keyboard case! It makes sense. With the old one it felt «top heavy»… this is now closer to a macbook air.

@firmanfirdaus2972 15 күн бұрын

Noah can you do a rivew on the new Logitech combo touch?

@disadadi8958 9 күн бұрын

More efficient chip and same battery life as before just because they had to make it thinner and cut on batter capacity. What for? Form over function? Thanks!

@ryandeopante5317 14 күн бұрын

Open the iPad m4 and a Mac m4….. are they the same chip?

@jordanlockhart5667 14 күн бұрын

How much does the 13 with case weigh?

@glimmerz3464 14 күн бұрын

Can you use screen protectors on the nano texture display version?

@NoahHerman 12 күн бұрын

yes!

@heraldcondes1278 14 күн бұрын

Damn that intro! 💯🔥

@RYN988 14 күн бұрын

intro was 🔥

@MajicSho 14 күн бұрын

That INTRO 🔥🔥🔥

@LMActionsports 14 күн бұрын

My M4 iPad Pro 13 with 1tb and apple Pro pencil will be here tomorrow. I can't wait to start editing some photos and videos on it and see how much of a difference it is compared to my M1 iPad Pro with1tb

@MySavageDynasty 15 күн бұрын

I was waiting specifically for you to upload your ipad video. Let me grab a cold one.

@tritc 14 күн бұрын

I gave you a like and subscribed to your channel. Thanks for a great review :)

@Turtlemilk 14 күн бұрын

Can you use the old keyboard on the new iPad ?

@screamstation 14 күн бұрын

No, the magnets are positioned differently.

@colinp7983 14 күн бұрын

All I wanna know is what song that was in the intro!?

@truthexposed1428 14 күн бұрын

Wish you'd reviewed the NTG display too.

@Evie0133 13 күн бұрын

DUDEEEEE that intro made my pants fall off, that was AMAZING :D

@Nicolas-nl1gp 14 күн бұрын

Something I just realised is will the M4 mean thinner Macs?

@PerpetualPreponderer 13 күн бұрын

They can't even give the option for a proper mouse pointer in the UI. Temper your expectations accordingly.

@NinjaKiller1022 13 күн бұрын

As a 2018 iPad Pro 12.9 inch user, this M4 iPad Pro has me excited like I was back in 2018, but Apple must deliver on the software side. If they don’t, I will just keep using my current iPad since it would be useless for me to upgrade if barely any software updates make its way to the new iPad Pro. Like many, I’m hopeful, yet doubtful as well, because Apple has neglected the iPad.

@stpav2698 14 күн бұрын

Pricing is crazy . Just get the m2 pro 12.9! It’s like 900$ and much better than the air ones . I really don’t understand how someone can buy the air for 600/800 $ , no logic ! The new pros are too pricy . Just get m2 pro 🤩😍

@meyerlandman8762 13 күн бұрын

I really hope this Tandem OLED panel makes its way to the new iPhone 16 series (if possible/feasible).

@ChrisCo813 14 күн бұрын

King of the intros ✊🏾

@dgutie8 12 күн бұрын

I finally got my M4 iPad Pro…I throughly enjoy it, but one thing that sticks out is the bezels…they seem so big! I wish they would shrink those bezels! The new Magic Keyboard is awesome. Coming from a 2018 iPad Pro, the new M4 iPad and keyboard much lighter.

@sheda9709 15 күн бұрын

Deymm so thin. Love the intro tho🔥

@lostgleammedia 14 күн бұрын

I would say more battery not thinner, but actually the thinness does make sense for a 13inch ipad

@NoahHerman 14 күн бұрын

as processors get even smaller transistor wise, battery life will only improve!

@lostgleammedia 14 күн бұрын

@@NoahHerman but battery life could always be better in a thicker body

@sanu_films 13 күн бұрын

Intro was lit❤‍🔥

@GlucoseYummy 14 күн бұрын

Your intros are insane Noah

@dplj4428 6 күн бұрын

2:39 does PD matter compared to IQ?

@stevenqirkle 14 күн бұрын

This started out so positive and then got so negative, lol. Totally agree though that Apple needs to do something about iPadOS.

@pickjerry 14 күн бұрын

Is 256 GB enough, want the 13” but I’m not sure if 256 will be enough stora

@codythep 14 күн бұрын

Yeah thats plenty for almost all usecases unless you’ll edit photo/video directly on it

@susanleach9106 14 күн бұрын

I bought the 11 inch with 256. I have the previous iPad Pro and had 256 in that as well. It was plenty enough. Apple has just shipped mine due Thursday (in Australia)

@TheDumontShow 14 күн бұрын

@@codythepjust use a external SSD drive for the editing. I am sure that you can use an OTG cable on an iPad. Get a Crucial X8 1TB SSD and you should be straight. The drive is pocket sized

@MichaelNNguyen 13 күн бұрын

My 2018 iPad Pro still run strong

@jdnyc718 13 күн бұрын

it's thin until you put a case on it.. which is absolutely required

@TheCAPTAINawe 14 күн бұрын

Love that you are getting invited to Apple events. I have been watching since you had 50K subs. How far we have come.

@NoahHerman 14 күн бұрын

appreciate you ❤️

@mr.jellyfish5544 14 күн бұрын

This video looks awesome on my m1 mini-LED iPad Pro which I’ll be happily keeping for at least an extra year. Actually had it replaced recently due to 2 busted microphones so it’s basically still like new. Have the pencil, hardly use it. NEVER purchased the keyboard because the virtual keyboard is more than enough. If I was able to write a 10 page college paper using the virtual keyboard, and the physical keyboard won’t even help me with Japanese, then there is no point to ever purchase one at this point for my personal usage. That being said, it’s time for hybridOS (equal elements of iOS, MacOS, VisionOS) to finally hit the iPad. iPadOS is just 90% iOS and needs to go. An actual radical change of the OS is much needed, and slapping macOS won’t help it much IMO.

@GU_WOP_O 13 күн бұрын

Glad I sold my M1 iPad pro. Still got 900 for it 2 months ago. M4 1TB should deliver today. Well worth the $900 difference for me

@ryanrootphoto 14 күн бұрын

Seems bonkers for an iPad, but, it's still just an iPad. I think I will use this release to just buy a slightly older iPad that will still feel new to me as I'm still rocking the 2018 iPad Pro.

@AliAbidalkareem 14 күн бұрын

Mac OS is mouse-click optimized. IpadOS is touch optimized OS. Let those two OSes evolve naturally without forcing stuff on them.

@doaflamingo3713 14 күн бұрын

till then all the power in ipad is wasted, and apple should stop claiming its a laptop replacement

@codythep 14 күн бұрын

Hot take

@gwvaio 14 күн бұрын

They literally created a magic keyboard for IPadOS. It’s now “mouse-click” optimized as you put it.

@AliAbidalkareem 14 күн бұрын

@@gwvaio The keyboard/trackpad is an accessory to ipad that allows you to do lightweight work. Real mouse-click work is done on laptops not ipads.

@gwvaio 14 күн бұрын

@@AliAbidalkareem lol that’s a software issue. Not a hardware problem. A click is a click. The device doesn’t care

@Mousta_alpha94 14 күн бұрын

If they add also xcode it was so embraced 😊

@jcru40 14 күн бұрын

It’s awesome but people please realize that the other iPad pros are still great even the air 13 SO NO need to spend all that crazy money . I was gonna get but instead I stood with my awesome m2 iPad 13 pro and just bought a DJI drone and DJI gimble and still had money left over lol

@MyNameJeff.. 12 күн бұрын

What’s the point if it’s still running ipad os

@iyintosoluwami 12 күн бұрын

This might be my next laptop

@jkecollins 14 күн бұрын

Dream hardware with children's software. $2000 Netflix machine.

@iamsju8235 3 күн бұрын

The minimal updates to the hardware, in my opinion, do not specifically justify the purchase. I think Apple is offering the bare minimum in exchange for high profit and return simply because of the brand name. The economic situation in the US is changing to where purchasing something like this seems specifically out of reach and could possibly lead to buyer’s remorse. However, the operating system looks interesting and promising.

@evanryan16 7 күн бұрын

a billion dollars idea for Apple: give iPad the "MacPad" OS

@hamzahussain183 14 күн бұрын

Damn bro what a cooool intro. Saw it 5 times

@JeadilsonBezerra 13 күн бұрын

When iPadOS comes with a proper “Finder” and haveFull feature apps will make the iPad an incredible device

@mden2490 14 күн бұрын

It’s safe to say that Vision Pro was a flop and a gimmick. They did not sell very many units of them, and they should have focused on other areas like AI and dare we say Mac OS for the iPad. You surely gave Apple some cover as to why they are behind the rest of the other manufacturers? I am glad another reviewer on KZfaq finally said it, Apple has too many products, it’s time they stop worrying so much about the pocket book and finally bring Mac OS to the iPad Pro, and a meaningful iOS revamp!

@SaadKirangwa 9 күн бұрын

As long as I can’t use full or Desktop Ver of Microsoft Office suite. I’ll always keep it Mac

@mattoverton5526 14 күн бұрын

Indeed as VisionPro run iPad Apps it to needs the same mac-killer features the iPad needs.

@Esokyotoo 14 күн бұрын

I subscribed because of that intro. sick intro bro

@ImStillStealingSteel 13 күн бұрын

Loved that intro, Noah ❤❤❤

@rhettoliver5860 14 күн бұрын

Someone please tell me what screen size to get lol

@whatsupunderthebed7755 9 күн бұрын

If they have managed to fit Face ID into this thin iPad, could this be a hint that the MacBooks will finally get Face ID soon?

@iaurah99 15 күн бұрын

These intros are one of a kind to look at 😍😍

@iAddictions763 5 күн бұрын

I think iPadOS 18 needs to knock it out the park

@anderbeau 14 күн бұрын

That intro… and then main video 😂

@HOUSEMDSB7 14 күн бұрын

Entrance went HARD! Great review Noah

@bovineox1111 14 күн бұрын

We are all waiting for something big at WWDC

@visionpersistance 13 күн бұрын

The question of “a lack of ambition” should be properly addressed to the rest of the industry as against Apple

@commentarytalk1446 14 күн бұрын

Completely agree about the stunning hardware. Personally really appreciate the thinness and lightness attempts to miniaturize everything over time. But Apple needs to deliver iPadOS at WWDC or else it's a lot of expense that's the equivalent of buying a treasure chest without the key.

@Ded-Ede 14 күн бұрын

11:49 I am currently using my m1 iPad Pro with my headless m1 Mac mini running macOS via vnc. So I can switch between iOS and Mac OS on the same device. Wish Apple would make this more seamless or make the iPad Pro run macOS on device.