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mrpete222

mrpete222

Күн бұрын

Tubalcain makes a cheap collet attachment for his Clausing lathe.
I have over 300 shop videos.

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@theseldomseenkid6251
@theseldomseenkid6251 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Pete's Micrometer stop completed; this looks like my next Atlas TH-54 upgrade project. I have a set of JMS3-D collets made in the Orient that take a 1/2-13 NC very loose tolerance thread. Thanks for the project Mr. Pete.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@gearhead9707
@gearhead9707 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks MrPete. You have a knack for posting videos of exactly what I'm looking for. This video like many of your others answered questions that I could not find clear answers for elsewhere. You are an excellent instructor. We truly appreciate your generosity in helping us. Also, thanks for the Machine Shop Courses on your LFE website. It is awesome and well worth the cost.
@countrycraftsman5110
@countrycraftsman5110 3 жыл бұрын
I have been watching for a little over a year and have learned so much. When i was in school i knew everything so there was nothing to learn. Until i got old and found the gray sponge needed a good soaking. THANKS FOR spilling A LOT OF GREAT KNOWLEDGE my way.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@davecarberry8212
@davecarberry8212 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Pete, thank you again for your great videos! I will be fabricating my own poor man's collet attachment assembly this weekend for my old but nicely restored Craftsman lathe. Your videos take much of the guesswork and uncertainty out for us newbies!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 2 жыл бұрын
so great meeting you today Lyle at Florida Flywheelers.....cheers from Orlando.....give you your wife a big hug for me too...she is a wonderful woman........Paul B
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 2 жыл бұрын
I just hugged my wife paul And let her read this comment. It made her very happy. It was wonderful meeting you and talking with you. Heading north tomorrow
@DarronBirgenheier
@DarronBirgenheier 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I have the same model Clausing lathe, and have dreaded the prospect of finding and paying for a 5C setup for it. This solution, while having the limitations you noted, is wonderful.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@nkelly9
@nkelly9 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this and all your other videos. You are a champion. Good luck to you.
@mduvigneaud
@mduvigneaud 9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching your videos!
@emtffzartman666
@emtffzartman666 9 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I am currently trying to get a mill and lathe. Your videos are providing great info on what I am looking for.
@HemiRod23
@HemiRod23 9 жыл бұрын
I've been using MT3 collets on my Logan lathe for about a year and a half. I made a draw bar very much like yours. It works great, with the noted limitations. I'm saving up for a 5C collet adapter chuck, but even that will be limited by the ID of my spindle. It will work good for larger diameter stock as long as the pieces are short. I have not looked into ER40 collet chucks, but now I will. Great video. Thank you!
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful adaption......you have solved a big problem for me, thank you so much....
@MyShopNotes
@MyShopNotes 9 жыл бұрын
I bought a collet for my atlas when I did some milling. Worked great.
@PhillyBatts
@PhillyBatts Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the idea! I made one that accepts r8 collets. It works well and has sped up the process of some small parts I make by 3 fold. Thanks!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@misfitsailor
@misfitsailor 9 жыл бұрын
I did this on my first lathe (7x12) about 10 years back. Like you, I used all-thread. I bought only the collets I needed because I was too poor to buy a set!
@68sweetnovember
@68sweetnovember 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful idea - thank you Lyle.
@mikeadrover5173
@mikeadrover5173 9 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~
@JB-kw4ug
@JB-kw4ug 9 жыл бұрын
I like your video's so much, I had to watch this one again. I have the same 5914 Clausing lathe which happens to have 5c collet attachment, draw bar and spindle nose protector, so they are available. I had to buy the 4 1/2 mt adaptor from clausing, so you might check with them for a spindle protector. Any way, keep the videos cummin. Thanks, Jim.
@mikekeele1533
@mikekeele1533 7 жыл бұрын
This changes the whole game! i now know hoe to put a keyway in knobs of my own design.
@chipwright6193
@chipwright6193 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Pete. I didn't realize they made a #3 Morse taper collet. My Logan lathe has this taper in the spindle. I will definitely have to find a set. I have a partial set of #2 for my old Bridgport that I figured I could use with a cut off sleeve.
@bobauer4359
@bobauer4359 9 жыл бұрын
Mr Pete, Great idea, I think I'll try it on my Craftsman lathe
@jimsanker989
@jimsanker989 9 жыл бұрын
Poor man with a brain is better than a rich man with no brain. thanks Mr. Pete
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
jim sanker thats a good one
@priority2
@priority2 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video , as always!
@rickhand8228
@rickhand8228 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I made an adapter for my Sheldon lathe to use Hendey #3 collets that I bought cheap. I had to make the draw tube and thread it internally for the collet and externally for the hand wheel. I have since traded for a 5C adapter and collets but had to make another draw tube. I like the idea of ER collets for a lathe but haven't used them so there could be drawbacks.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@nadam35
@nadam35 9 жыл бұрын
fantastic video as always. thanks for sharing
@F22xSTEALTHx
@F22xSTEALTHx 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I have been wanting to make my own draw bar for a small atlas Mk2 but wasn't sure how to go about it :)
@sladroznik
@sladroznik 9 жыл бұрын
Though I am not a machine lathe operator, I am going to use this to hold an MT2 collet for a thread cutter on a wood lathe. I enjoy your videos very much. Thank You for the well made & interesting videos!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
slad roznik Thanks for watching.
@joecallaco6264
@joecallaco6264 5 жыл бұрын
I MADE A SET FOR MY LATHE, HAVE NOT USED IT YET HOWEVER GREAT IDEA THANKS MR. PETE
@davidschwartz5127
@davidschwartz5127 6 жыл бұрын
Great will make one for my recent purchased 13" Leblond round head when I get it restored and put back together, I bought it at end of an estate sale in parts and pieces with the assurance that all the lathe parts are there. So far so good.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 жыл бұрын
That will be a good lathe when it's done
@josephciro6614
@josephciro6614 4 жыл бұрын
Thank so much I needed this for a year
@Anders-Diy
@Anders-Diy 9 жыл бұрын
Wery Nice Thanks from Sweden for your outstanding videos
@michaelstorm8578
@michaelstorm8578 6 жыл бұрын
I made the drawbar and used MT2 collets for my lathe. I also made a MT2 collet block from a scrap piece of hex stock. Both are working well and I will make a square block when the right piece of steel comes along. Thanks for the idea.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Just1GuyMetalworks
@Just1GuyMetalworks 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, funny I should run into this video. I actually made a mt3 collet out of some 1" cold rolled. Took a couple tries to get it close (about .001" run out). Good enough for this poor man lol. Thanks for the video! 👍😁👍
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@4SafetyTraining
@4SafetyTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this one, Thanks
@caskwith
@caskwith 9 жыл бұрын
I recently made an ER40 collet chuck for my Myford lathe, up to that point I had been using MT2 collets in the headstock which was very limiting. I found the ER series very easy to use and very cheap. I have been very pleased with the upgrade and I can hold up to 30mm stock very accurately.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks--where do you get those collets?
@caskwith
@caskwith 9 жыл бұрын
mrpete222 I am in the UK so I bought mine from a local supplier, I have a 28pc set which covers 3mm-30mm, the collets have a 1mm clamping range which is very useful if you use odd sized stock like I do. The price was £180 for the set which I thought very reasonable, just slightly less than your $10 each I think. You can buy them individually as well. Check ebay for a good deals, the chinese made collets are pretty good quality I have found, with my (partially) homemade chuck I have runout of 2 thou or less, each collet will vary slightly. I think they would be a good choice for you and not require too much more work, certainly nothing not in your incredible skill set, might make a nice project video too. Anyway worth a look and thank you for all the great content, I am an avid viewer.
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch 9 жыл бұрын
I recently did the same. I was making MT3 collets for common mill sizes but I really wanted feed through for rod stock. I chose an ER40 kit for for the same reasons as you. I liked them so much that I bought spare holders and made a bolt-on version for my lathe. Easily one of my best and most used accessory. I started with an MT3 kit off eBay for around $160 then extra holders from Tools4cheap at $25 each. All run within a thousandth with nut and wrench? No cussing and Dykem mess? No missing eyebrows from homestyle heat treating? $25 any size? DUH. I love making things but it would take me a week to make one true running holder on my machine and I'd have a pile of discards.
@littlestworkshop
@littlestworkshop 9 жыл бұрын
I really like ER collets, such a good grip and you always have the right size.
@jossfitzsimons
@jossfitzsimons 9 жыл бұрын
I have done the same but using ER 32 COLLETS AND MT3 adaptor. These can be bought cheaply from ctc tools. The ER collets are superior in a number of ways. Each collet has a wider clamping range so that every possible diameter from 2mm to 20 is covered. Also when tightened the part is not drawn back towards the chuck to the same extent. The clamping grip is greater too as they have a double taper and 8 slots rather than three. If you choose u can go up to 30mm material by choosing ER 50 collets at a greater cost. Well worth looking at the ER system. On the drawbar end I put a round plastic knob of about 2" dia so no spanner is needed. I have used it for three years now and I use these collets for work holding more often than the big chucks combined. They are a lot safer too. I hold milling cutters in them regularly when using a milling slide. Clearly I'm a fan of the ER system.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks--I will check it out.
@RickRose
@RickRose 8 жыл бұрын
+Joss Fitzsimons I've just taken the ER plunge--Going with the ER40s. Bought some collet blocks from arceurotrade, an MT3 adapter for the lathe, an R8 adapter for the mill, and a 15-piece collet set running from 1/8-inch to 1-inch. Trying to make them my do-all system. Still waiting on the mailman for some of the pieces of the kit. We'll see how it all works out.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 8 жыл бұрын
+Rick Rose Those are nice collets
@KaleidoscopesToYou
@KaleidoscopesToYou 5 жыл бұрын
Love it thanks for this video I am just getting into collets and don't have a proper draw bar for my south bend heavy 10 just yet so the threaded rod will be great for me
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@andymandyandsheba4571
@andymandyandsheba4571 9 жыл бұрын
great video mr pete
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 7 жыл бұрын
my old lathe doesnt have an exposed spindle at the rear, it seems to be a thrust bearing housing. my concept is a combination thread protector/collet holder. a thread protector (1-1/2"-10tpi) with an inner tapered lip that presses on the front of the collet. no idea if it will work but i may give it a shot!
@dree6212
@dree6212 7 жыл бұрын
You bring up very good idea,s thank,s
@MultiChaga
@MultiChaga 5 жыл бұрын
Very well said Jim...
@44mod
@44mod 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very useful. I found you by watching a video by Winky's Workshop. H talked about how he saw you make a index wheel with a saw blade. His video is Metal Lathe Indexing Wheel. Thank you and May God Bless you and your family.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will watch that video
@johnnysmith2893
@johnnysmith2893 7 жыл бұрын
I use a BT-40 tool holder. put it in chuck, indicate it and then your good to go. kind of expensive though, but very handy.
@JackHoying
@JackHoying 9 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty nice way to get accurate holding (centering) for round stock. I have the same (or very similar) Clausing 5914 lathe. It came with a Royal 5C holder, which I like a lot. If you ever find a Royal or similar closer, let me know, as I might have a spare 5C adaptor. I didn't have an adaptor like you have for the 4 1/2 to MT3, so I made a taper attachment for the lathe and after many adjustment passes, I came up with a nice end product.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
sounds like a nice setup. I'm always watching for the collet attachment, but it has to be cheap.
@JackHoying
@JackHoying 9 жыл бұрын
mrpete222 I see that there is a nose protector on eBay this morning . www.ebay.com/itm/L00-Long-Taper-Steel-Spindle-Thread-Taper-Protector-Clausing-Leblond-Logan-/191393242572?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:3160
@keldsor
@keldsor 9 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Oh, what a nice idea - I have a M5 taper in my lathe and I think I should beable to make an adaptor "M5 to 5C-collet" and then I have 5C collet holder on my old Stanko lathe - right ? Oh, I have to make the draw bar too, but ...
@pierresgarage2687
@pierresgarage2687 9 жыл бұрын
Ni mrpete, No need to be poor to take advantage of a good idea, sometimes just being stuck and needing a way out... Thanks for a good idea,
@TheDisorderly1
@TheDisorderly1 9 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could show us how to turn one of those spindle adapters? I know how to turn a short taper but struggle with the math.
@markbartlett8519
@markbartlett8519 9 жыл бұрын
Right on thanks for the tip
@richardalbury2132
@richardalbury2132 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Pete. I'm in the Bahamas and really enjoy your videos. I have a 10" Atlas lathe. What size or style collets do i need to get to fit directly into my lathe spindle?
@chopthesheep90
@chopthesheep90 2 ай бұрын
Have you ever had the collet come out but the sleeve stay in the spindle? Just curious, I have a Southbend 13" and I find myself wanting a collet setup sometimes. Thanks for the info!
@rbrown264
@rbrown264 6 жыл бұрын
what is the biggest dim collet you can get up to 1"
@itswift
@itswift 9 жыл бұрын
Fred Eisner in NYC has the 5c adapter and thread protector for clausing 5900 lathe.
@itswift
@itswift 9 жыл бұрын
Fred's email: imsteamer21@hotmail.com
@lissetgiron6987
@lissetgiron6987 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Is there any video about using 5C collets in Southbend 10K?
@1479andy
@1479andy 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Pete would be nice if one day soon you show us how to made a thread protector nee one for my Atlas 10f love your work sir thank you
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@prenticeemler7709
@prenticeemler7709 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr,. Pete
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@tomherd4179
@tomherd4179 7 ай бұрын
I saw a 5C Milling Collet Arbor and really don't know what it is used for?
@FretsNirvana
@FretsNirvana 5 жыл бұрын
Just solved another problem for me ...thanks!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@ayamona2011
@ayamona2011 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@mekajiki7861
@mekajiki7861 5 ай бұрын
What's the point of pinning the coupling nut? Don't you need something to tighten against the outboard side spindle adapter? Or did you cut the all-thread at precisely the right length so taking up just those few threads in the collet snugs it up?
@prenticeemler7709
@prenticeemler7709 6 жыл бұрын
i have a atlas 10 inch lathe and i was wondering can i use mt3 end mill holder without a draw bar ,and would it be ok to just use a brass rod to tap end mill holder out dont think these end mill holders would work with a draw bar .just want to make sure i need no damage to lathe thanks Mr. Pete
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 жыл бұрын
I believe a drawbar is necessary with milling cutters. The helix on the cutter turns to want to pull the cutter loose
@ayamona2011
@ayamona2011 9 жыл бұрын
I respect you too
@erwincoggins6636
@erwincoggins6636 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mrpete quick question I'm looking for a variable pulley drive and piston setup for my classing lathe 6900 series 14x48. Where is the best place to start looking?
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 5 жыл бұрын
Probably Feebay or Craigs list
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks I bid on it
@schaaed1
@schaaed1 9 жыл бұрын
There is a L00 spindle protector on Ebay, buy it now. Came up under a search for Logan Lathe ... listed 11/3
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks--will bid
@stinky1079
@stinky1079 9 жыл бұрын
If you can get your hands on one Schaublin 135, you wont be neding more lathes :) it is one of the best by far IMO
@JF_Projects
@JF_Projects 7 жыл бұрын
Great idee, thanks for sharing...
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@GnosisMan50
@GnosisMan50 Жыл бұрын
Pete, have you (or anyone else reading this) ever used a 5C collet chuck closer on a lathe? Do you know if they have the same holding power as the drawbar 5C closer like those made my JFK co? Thanks.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have used 5C holders drawbars thousands of times. They hold very well.
@GnosisMan50
@GnosisMan50 Жыл бұрын
@@mrpete222 I was referring to a lathe CHUCK that takes 5C collets. Are they as good as a 5C drawbar closer?
@donaldaasen4763
@donaldaasen4763 6 жыл бұрын
what size collets does the clausing use from the factory
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 жыл бұрын
5C I think--I do not have a collet attach for my clausing
@youbail1
@youbail1 9 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the 4 1/2 Morse taper Spindle sleeve? thanks, Bill Lee
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
It came with the lathe. Don't know where you can get one other than from clausing
@aserta
@aserta 9 жыл бұрын
I might talk nonsense but, wouldn't it be possible to take an adapter, cut it short so the last say 1 to 2 cm of the collet be exposed and on to it a thread be made for a cup that will become the draw bar? The cup would have to remain inside the machine somehow locked, i wouldn't know how to be honest but the rotation for the tightening would have to be made from the work side instead of the gear side. It just crossed my mind so it's nothing i've ever seen before. Might be complete nonsense. edit: the outcome would be that the inside of the collet would be free to use a full piece of stock as opposed to the smaller variant presented here. I would also like to add that all the machining can be done on a lathe. It's basically cutting, facing and threading.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Never thought of it. Give it a try
@practicalskills
@practicalskills 8 жыл бұрын
Do 3c collets work in a MT3 taper?
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 8 жыл бұрын
+practicalskills no--you need an adapter
@mike97525
@mike97525 9 жыл бұрын
thanks
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 6 жыл бұрын
I had too watch it twice at 4:27, I first thought you had pushed the round stock in from the rear, lol. I wish I was as POOR as you, lol.
@garyc5483
@garyc5483 9 жыл бұрын
Another excellent tip for us poor pensioners. I see you stole another of your wife's towels as a backdrop. She will catch you one day. lol
@neffk
@neffk Жыл бұрын
Can 3C collets be used in an MT3 spindle?
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 Жыл бұрын
I use 3c collets in my atlas lathe
@Tryin2FlyII
@Tryin2FlyII 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! (like always) - I could do a similar set up for my South Bend couldn't I? I am trying to find a good price on the book how to run a lathe just don't know what version (reprint year) to get and the price range is anywhere from $15 as high as $80 for what looks to be the very same book why is that ? does the version or year make that big of a difference? I think my SB is early 1950's at least that's the closest I guess or find using the Serial #
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Get the 1958 version or newer. You will eventuall find one for about $15
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
Do google search --- how to run a lathe. There are 2 free downloads. The one with the tan cover is my fav.
@Tranartz
@Tranartz 9 жыл бұрын
You might be poor in earthly goods but you're a rich man in spirit. How about making a really LARGE steam engine...1/2 horse or more?
@libertarianlife3651
@libertarianlife3651 4 жыл бұрын
Plenty of room in a 3c for making carbide core rifle bullets if s ever hits the fan.
@walterftube
@walterftube 8 жыл бұрын
How to remove collet adapter itself?
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 7 жыл бұрын
strelok 1/4 stick TnT is preferred , 1/3rd if its stubborn.
@abdiqadirahmedxussen6630
@abdiqadirahmedxussen6630 4 жыл бұрын
...........many dots can make street line
@mc_cpu
@mc_cpu 9 жыл бұрын
Do you have a pay pal address? I'd like to make old tubalcain a mite less poor...
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 9 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU very much. pete22@mchsi.com
@ghosttwo2
@ghosttwo2 9 жыл бұрын
"If you had the number two's, you'd have to use your sleeve'
@ralphbarnes2994
@ralphbarnes2994 3 жыл бұрын
I still find good stuff on mrpete222
@jossfitzsimons
@jossfitzsimons 9 жыл бұрын
Me again. www.rdgtools.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=collets&PN=32MM-STRAIGHT-SHANK-COLLET-CHUCK-ER32---18PC-COLLET-SET-675551%2ehtml#SID=71 This is the set I bought. The material can pass through these collets if you get an adaptor plate that goes on to your spindle. Some of these are shown on the Ark Euro Trade site.
@johnaffleck6572
@johnaffleck6572 9 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make your own collet ? there's nothing difficult about it.
@JohnRepaci
@JohnRepaci 9 жыл бұрын
sorry about the dislike; it was a slip of the fingers
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