What Can You Expect from a Compact Ride On Lawn Mower? The New COBRA LT86HRL vs Mountfield MTF84H

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2 ай бұрын

Are small ride on lawn tractors worth it? We test a well known Mountfield MTF84H against a Cobra LT86HRL. Direct collect budget garden tractors tested. 33" ride on lawn mower. #rideon #rideonmower #gardentractor #lawnmower #mountfield #cobra #budgetmower #lawncare #gardenequipment #gardeningtools
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@georgehubbert4960 2 ай бұрын

I think a a comparison between the Cobra and the Stiga Estate 384 would have been much better as it has a high backed seat, larger engine and larger grass collector with the telescopic lever.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Spec for spec yes I agree. But price comparable and the reason we done with video was that the Cobra looks so similar to the Mountfield. When they were released, we said “that’s just a Mountfield with a different badge” so when we found out how different they were we had to do a video.

@merria01 Ай бұрын

Thanks - I used your comparison video to help me make my choice! Just ordered the Cobra LT102HR2L :) cheers!

@Gordon_L 2 ай бұрын

One of the things I look at on mowers is the steering drive which is usually a pinion gear on the bottom of the steering shaft engaging with a quadrant with attached tie rods . Some mowers have a quadrant that is thin and/or the teeth are rather shallow leading to premature wear and a steering wheel with a lot of play . Another thing is plastic bonnets , that's a no from me on both these machines , a pressed steel bonnet will last the life of the machine whereas plastic often ends up cracked and broken.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Great point Gordon, I’ve always been a fan of metal bonnets, seldom seen these days.

@timbert4672 2 ай бұрын

I'd go for the Cobra simply because I've used petrol mowers made by them before, plus the reasons you stated which is that seat, the power, and the fact that you can mulch with it. Plus I think it is the better looking of the two. What sells me on it though is that you can get off it without it cutting out, that's really annoying when you're working big areas with longer grass where it is not practical to scout the area first and things can be difficult to spot until you are almost on top of them.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Defo the seat sensor gets it for me

@LewisgardenservicesLtd 2 ай бұрын

Nice comparison of very similar mowers 👌

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Nathan 👍🏼

@SimseFalk1819 2 ай бұрын

Great video Would be cool to see a video on the Stiga Park range

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Will see what we can do 👍🏼

@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 2 ай бұрын

Would definitely go with the Cobra! Purely due to my personal experience in dealing with Mountfield in the past!!!

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 2 ай бұрын

Hi James, Looks like the Cobra for me , it has a cup holder......LOL saying that both mowers do a good job I wouldn't be disappointed with either, if I had to pick it's the Cobra. Great demonstration catch you soon Take care

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Cup holder gets it every time 🤦🏻‍♂️

@benm1050 2 ай бұрын

Love a good ride on!

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Ben 👍🏼

@davidgibbings6085 2 ай бұрын

Don’t know much about those cobras , they seem ok , we at our place deal with stiga , mountfield and husky for domestic , stiga and Mountfield same stuff , just different colours ..👍🙂

@chrisburr7929 2 ай бұрын

Cobra without a doubt! Love your videos!

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Chris 👍🏼

@keithhooper6123 2 ай бұрын

I have the Mountfield 1530H. Rigid grassbox with extending rod,otherwise almost identical to machine tested. I also have a deflector that replaces the grassbox, spreading the cutting. It seems a good machine,though used a good amount of petrol.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

The 1530 was similar spec to what the cobra is now.

@blurredintooblivion662 Ай бұрын

Agree with that, the Mountfield machine has been under speced due to the Stiga range being more 'premium'

@DJC995 2 ай бұрын

Having a dislike for direct collect rideon's nether😀 the Cobra looks the better machine Thanks again

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Darran, marmite? Haha.

@BenP-rm3ip 2 ай бұрын

Really useful video. I was looking at Stiga mowers e.g. Estate 384 or 598 but I think the Cobra LT92HRL might be better value with the mulch plug and hitch included? We have about 2 acres of lawn and paddock and was tempted by a side discharge with mulching function but I think maybe a rear collector should be best if I just mulch or deflect in the paddock?

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Sounds a plan, thanks Ben 👍🏼

@4acrefield875 2 ай бұрын

I'm definitely going to have my radio earmuffs on with both of them if I was operating them

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

The single cylinder engines do come with their own noise for sure.

@IanSRutter 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. I'm in the market for something like this. Just bought a house on 4 acres. Needs work and I'm happy to do it myself. I've been looking at buying a Solis Compact tractor, as I need a few of the attachments. I'd be using it for cutting the grass, but it doesn't come with a collector. Would one of these ride on mowers be a good second vehicle to use to collect the grass, or something bigger? This is a gteat review and love watching your videos. Cheers.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

They wouldn’t be suitable for 4 acres of grass, 1.5 I would say would be the limit. A few reasons 1. It would take too long 2. The life span of the machine would significantly reduce 3. Collecting 4 acres would be a chore 4. 4 acres of mowing would be classed as prosumer rather than domestic, so high end domestic/low end commercial grade machine. I hope this helps.

@IanSRutter 2 ай бұрын

@@MachineryNation Are you talking about the Solis machine or the ride on mowers?Cheers for answering.

@rupertm2542 2 ай бұрын

Sure you already know this, but pretty sure you’ll be able to bypass the seat switch as I’ve done on my John Deere. Just a couple of spade connectors and some speaker wire did the job for me.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

You can on any mower, but I wouldn’t want upset the safety sallys 👍🏼

@rupertm2542 2 ай бұрын

@@MachineryNation yes, don’t upset Sally, her mate Karen will come knocking! Lol

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

@@rupertm2542 haha 😂

@tinkeringtaylor3053 2 ай бұрын

I would go for the Cobra, funny question when you operated them James did you find any difference comfort in the operating the drive pedals 🤔

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Being hydrostatic you don’t really use the brake during operation, only to park so not a massive difference. One thing we didn’t mention was that the linkage underneath them was a lot simpler due to being on different sides. So much easier when needing to be worked on in later years.

@philipcounsell4709 2 ай бұрын

I'd go for the Cobra everyday .

@patrickvennard838 2 ай бұрын

I think I would give Cobra a go.

@stevemahoney4984 2 ай бұрын

Hope it's ok to jump on this for advice - we have the Cobra and the only issue is the ultra sensitive seat safety cut out. My wife and son aren't heavy enough to be able to sit back in the seat to weigh it down, they have to balance on the front edge which is uncomfortable and tricky. Is there any way of adjustment of this? We have checked the manual but nothing is mentioned and I have read that it's the same on lots of other mower brands. I was worried about invalidating the warranty if we cut the wires. Our garden is flat so no risk of rolling over as far as I can see. Thanks

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Steve. They both have the same issue to be fair. Some people obviously work around the safety switches, but I wouldn’t advise this for that reason. Might be worth checking with the dealer to see what can be done.

@anthonykeane154 2 ай бұрын

That's the second cobra mower that you guys reviewed that is feature rich for around four hundred less then competition cobra is looking more like the boys to go to when your looking for a new mower you get more for less money 🤑💰😅😂

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Seems that way Anthony 👍🏼

@user-jf5dg1jo1h 2 ай бұрын

Had a mountfield warning bell was rubbish with ear defenders couldn’t hear it destroyed 2 belts sent it back

@stuart6973 2 ай бұрын

What warranty do both of them have? I guess I’d pick the dealership closest to me stocked.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Both have a 5 year domestic warranty. Apologies if I missed this in the video, I thought I mentioned it.

@stuart6973 2 ай бұрын

Sorry so you did. 👍🏻

@mitchellbroderick5097 2 ай бұрын

I would go with the Cobra too. But I would prefer the Mountfield engine.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Pretty much the same engine, they share components 👍🏼

@joewynjones4580 2 ай бұрын

For anyone with a mountfield top tip ratchet strap the seat down hooked on to the rear mud guards mines been like that from new 😂

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Needs must 😂

@ianphilips2291 2 ай бұрын

We’ll explain video cobra for me as I am tall

@marccadec6978 2 ай бұрын

Prefer a front mounted mower deck mulcher mower

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

They are great under trees and in awkward areas if you don’t want to collect 👍🏼

@russellpetrie119 2 ай бұрын

are sgs getting anymore stock in?

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

I have no idea Russell, did they have them in stock?

@russellpetrie119 2 ай бұрын

just refering back to the tool chest and tool vlog you must do an update how well there working and stuff update vlog

@dab. 2 ай бұрын

That mulching option looks a bit rubbish, you shouldn't be getting heaps of grass left on the surface like you picked up.

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

If mulching you I wouldn’t have cut so low, I was taking off 50% of the material, whereas if I was mulching I would have only taken a third off.

@dab. 2 ай бұрын

@@MachineryNation I'd like to have seen the mulching option demonstrated. If it does work as it should then it would be big advantage over the competition.

@michaelpatterson5811 Ай бұрын

I bought this Mountfield in January [2024] - wish I'd seen this video first! I have a number of negative points. 1] Don't be fooled by the 'Mountfield' name. It's only a name. The machine and engine is now made under the Italian 'Stiga' company brand - but it's all manufactured in China. 2] Neither Stiga nor Cobra have designed and built anything new - 3] Why does it have headlights, please? (which cost you to buy, tho' you will never use them); - 4] that 'reversing button' is simply dangerous - to reverse, you only have one hand available for the steering wheel. Try doing that on a slope; - 5] Why are there no less than 5 forward gears? You can only use 2 for cutting speed purposes; an extra, lower gear for tight corners would actually be useful; - 6] the 'pull-button' cutter engager is dreadful, and brutal on such a small engine (it often just stalls it); - 7] the petrol tank is white plastic that you can't see through, so you have no idea how much fuel you have; - you need to take off the fillercap to look inside, but be careful! The sharp arrow-shaped hood catch is 1cm above the cap, and will take the skin off the back of your hand - and 8] you cannot get the nozzle of your fuel container into it - you need a funnel in one hand, and you probably can't hold a 5-litre can up with the other. Finally, 9] This machine is far too cumbersome and heavy for my wife - so I've got to do all of the grass cutting!! It's a Man's Mower.

@s.kxx1956 2 ай бұрын

Think the savings are in the loncin engine

@markcrane9661 2 ай бұрын

Loncin is a great engine, the Stiga engine is Chinese too

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

I do believe they are both Loncin engines, as they do share components. But we could not find enough supporting info to confirm this in the video. We believe Stiga have Loncin make their engines and badge as Stiga. But this is only from our own knowledge not facts.

@markcrane9661 2 ай бұрын

@@MachineryNation Yes i think so too.

@stevecox5100 2 ай бұрын

I've been looking at these for a while now and everywhere I look except a dealer in northern Ireland says it has a 352cc engine. Slightly confused !