A Professor once told me that accepting microevolution and not macroevolution was like accepting that a person can put one foot in front of the other but not accepting that they can walk.

Macroevolution; whatever amount of evolutionary change a given creationist is unwilling to admit to.

"Walking 100m has clearly been observed, but walking 1km has never been observed. Therefore, walking 1km is impossible".

I like how they say that microevolution is real but it just somehow stops.

"I accept micro-gunshot wounds, but anything above .38 has never been observed."

My man Aron at it again ❤ Creationists, Microevolution is evolution, adaptation is evolution, speciation is evolution. Evolution can be defined in many ways like descent with modification, or the genetic change in a population over time. What you Creationists need to realize is how much time you are familiar with relative to the vast amount of time that has transpired over the history of the earth (for traditional biological evolution), because when you "adapt" or "micro evolve", you are evolving. Eventually the "small" changes that you see within species changes to a point where if you zoom out you notice that the organism now is vastly different from their ancestors millions of years ago. 1+1=2, 1 is a small number, 2 is a small number... Keep adding on changes each second for millions of years and tell me if the number you see is still an insignificant one. Put your mind into perspective and stop assuming the earth is 6000 years old because a book told you so.

15+ years later and this is still going, feels so depressing 😅 I went to uni with a Creationist, and his argument against this was the "by the book" Creationist argument of "but they're still of the same kind" He didn't want 2 species of Gorilla, he want a Gorilla and...something else that was once a Gorilla? They wilfully ignore the meanings of words to further their own goals.

To deny that humans are apes is the most astounding example of willful ignorance I can imagine.

Creationist math: no amount of millimeters could ever add up to a kilometer.

I notice the crocoduck has been used less and less. If adult people don't accept evolution, they may be too far gone.

So strange that they admit “micro evolution” happens but don’t accept “macro evolution” I mean that’s like saying you accept the individual steps in a lego set, but don’t accept the complete model.

I find it absolutely astonishing that people who don't understand the basics of evolution, people who conflate evolution with abiogenesis and even the big bang, think that they are intellectually equipped to totally debunk the theory of evolution.

I wish we could deny the fruits of knowledge to the willfully ignorant.

Liars must twist the meanings of words if they hope to fool anyone.

I am damn sure proud of being the same species as one of our best and brightest, and that's you Aron!

Creation by magic has also never been evidently observed, nor is it replicateable in the lab.

I’m pretty sure those anti-science types will never be happy until we can visibly show the adaptation to a new high level clade. Even then, they’ll move the goal post. “It’s a different mouse, but it’s still a mouse.”

Good morning from northern Illinois ... lying in bed with my almost 3 year old granddaughter. What a treat to get an AronRa video to watch with her before we leave to enjoy a local double A baseball game

Of course it has been observed. Half of Darwin's originally recorded Galapagos finch species have already gone extinct because they've evolved into new ones. Their generations are much shorter than ours ...

They run with the goal posts until there's no more field, then they run away.

Professor Dave made an excellent point in his debate with Kent Hovind. Strawberries have speciated twice in single generations. This is apparently not that absurdly rare in species capable of self reproduction in addition to sexual reproduction(Because sexual reproduction is pre-requisite for most defining of species using the biological species concept). This is because there is a type of mutation called polyplodia where all of the chromosomes in a gamete are duplicated, entirely preventing sexual reproduction with any other individual if that polyploid organism survives. This happens in animals as well, especially those small reptiles or amphibians capable of parthanogenesis. It literally fits the strawman of "You've never seen one species give birth to another species" and creationists still will complain about how "Well they're still the same kind even if they can't take after one another because they look the same and haven't changed enough to be considered different kinds". Banking on their ill-defined "kind" to protect their ignorance. Polyploidy species are kinda the ultimate barrier to reproduction, however. They greatly prevent two species from exchanging genetic information and so they will see large diversification very quickly. It stops being a ring species and starts being a line species. Several generations later you might find that your two basic species forms you started with are entirely different, physically and genetically, unable to reproduce, fitting different niches and are by all conceivable definitions, different species and they will still be the same "kind" according to the creationist. The reason they're the same kind? Well we know their origin so they must be. If we didn't, they might be different kinds. So that begs the question: If we found the origin of all humans and where they diversified from other apes(Which we have, I'd argue) and could demonstrably show that directly to a creationist, would we suddenly be the ape kind? What about beyond that? The monkey kind? The mammal kind? cordate, animal, eukaryote kind? It's just really hard to work on changing people's minds when they will use words that change definitions based on whatever they feel like they need it to be to win.

I often like to use shared endogenous retroviruses as evidence of common ancestry between humans and chimpanzees. Creationists cannot give an explanation for why we find the same erv in the same location with the same inactivation mutation among the species.

I have to say, the mocking voice was perfect. It reminded me of the old school buggs bunny cartoons with the guy saying “which way did he go George, which way did he go?” I loved it. Keep at it, eventually, truth will reach a point of being undeniable.

It always makes me giggle how creationists expect evolution to more or less be like pokemon, while at the same time demonizing it. The funny part is, they can still both believe in their god and accept evolution for what it is. God created the first original "kinds", whatever the fuck that exactly means, but also accept that species have diversified after the fact over thousands of years. At least then they would look at least a little less stupid.

Another video from Aron Ra I must click on it. Thanks again for another informative and easy to understand video.

☺️I love that impression, Aron. It was priceless.

My example for "There are no transitional species, there never was a fish moving on land" is the mudskipper that exists TODAY. Lives on the silt in tide areas, has lungs, has stronger bottom flippers on which he can crawl around on the mud. No problem for a fish adapting to live on another part of the environment.

You can see it with modern wildlife. The deer populations where i live are surprisingly unique to one another. The deer closer in the city are much smaller compared to their rural cousins. Urban deer are at least two feet shorter and they're not as skittish.

The creationist-moved goalpost isn't in the same stadium anymore, perhaps not even in the same city or country.

Thank you, AronRa.

As a kid who was raised in a YEC homeschool situation, I was always super fascinated by science and technology and biology. Thought it was the coolest thing ever. Now as an adult learning about evolution, I just gotta say, it’s pretty damn cool. The ring species thing is pretty awesome. I guess science’s coolness was what did it for me, haha.

They have seen single cell turn to a multiple cell when they added a predator to the colony of single cell organisms.

Supernovae are not able to be replicated in the lab either…

This was a great video, bringing up a lot of points and arguments that I haven't really been able to formulate or find on my own. AronRa, you're great and keep up the awesome work giving such high quality educational videos to us! :D

Thank you for continuing to fight misinformation and disinformation

Macroevolution is clearly observable, I mean computer developers have been evolving macros for decades now, haven't they?

Everyone walks to their car or into an aircraft, but nobody has ever been observed walking from one country to another.

Good to see you again Aron :)

Christians who play football should be allowed to move the goalposts during games.

I believe creationists are deathly afraid someone will discover they came from black- skinned people.

All creationist i ever met that talked about evolution were clueless about the evolution itself

And did he love him and pet him and name him George?...lol

A question I always ask them is "How many cases of microevolution does it take before it eclipses the effect of one macroevolution?", because by their "micro only!" logic, if you get enough microevolution, it will eventually reach beyond what they would consider macroevolution, which is basically what evolution is anyway: a bunch of micros over a long period of time. They've never been able to provide a viable response to this

Another banger video, Aron.

"Evolution shows you what unintelligent design does. When you allow something that doesn’t know what it’s doing to mold the clay, it doesn’t make anything but a monstrosity. Everything living on this planet is pretty much a monstrosity." Inmendham

Meanwhile, creationists still cannot fully explain what a “kind” is without resourcing to word salads. Great episode Aron!

My favourite cut scene in this video was bananas to the document...I have no idea what, but it made me giggle as it took over your face

Aron I love your voice change depicting these ignorant fools. It is perfect!

But nobody has seen a dog give birth to a giraffe! Says guy who doesn't know anything about anything.

Having never been pressured into accepting unsubstantiated claims, I consider myself at liberty to utterly reject creationist claptrap. They have to prove that god did magic, rather than just reciting the "god did magic" claims of ancient goatherders.

Washington state has signs that say 'Apple Maggot quarantine area'! Really needs to be a rock song by a local band!

@AronRa, my favourite circular group are the circum-polar seagulls. Their reproduction is exactly like the lizards you mentioned. My favourite Paripatric speciation that has happened within our lifetimes is the Hawaiian rock wallaby. It happened from a sibling pair of Aussie rock wallabies, who escaped captivity from a zoo during a hurricane in the 1940s. By the '80s, people thought other people were crazy, reporting seeing "small kangaroos" on that island. Then, it was confirmed. They are now so different in diet, genetic arrangement, size, and even genital arrangements, that they could not possibly mate with the species they came from! It is astonishing. Meanwhile, unlike many foreign species, they are not invasive. They actually are helping spread the seeds of the amazing variety of Native Hawaiian fruits they consume. They would die if they were put back where their great however many grandparents came from, who had specialised in one kind of local food. Thanks for doing this work, Aron. I hope highschool teachers will use your work to get kids interested in reality.

I always appreciate your videos. I was really into all this Creationism malarky in the 2000s, in particular between 2005 and 2010. I watched a lot of your channel then, and others. I've watched your series Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism many times over. I admit my tastes change and I got into different things, plus, well, the almighty algorithm, but whenever one of your videos does pop up I'm sure to watch it! Keep up the good work!

If micro evolution is true. Than macro evolution must be. You can not have one of those without the other.

One observed example of macroevolution I remember reading about years ago was a moth in England..one branched off to exist amongst industrial smokestacks and polluted areas, the other staying in rural areas. The industrial area ones became a separate species. We were taught us humans are a branch of the great apes in junior high school....for the, that was the mid '70s...

This was the best explanation of the difference between macroevolution and microevolution I have ever heard.

Sponsored by Hallow: Prayer & Mediation .... I was slightly caught offguard when I clicked on an Aron Ra video and some small dude with an by far inferior beard started a magic spell invoking Jesus.

THERE ARE BLUE BANANAS?!?!?

I had to look up how snakes would be able to hunt bats. What I found was mindblowing. These cave snakes are able to slither up into the highest, narrowest exits. There they wait for a flock of bats to fly by, then strike out and hope to snatch a bat from midair.

I love this type of AronRa video: interesting, informative, authoritative, and entertaining.

We observe micro-growth of plants, nobody denies that. Your tomato plant is a tiny bit taller every morning. But no one has observed this MACROgrowth. Nobody has seen an acorn turn into an oak tree. THAT is not observed.

Great video, thanks!

A couple months ago, I got into a debate with somebody online over this. Watching this video made me proud that I used a lot of the same points that you did. And, just like you predicted, the creationist used abiogenesis to try to disprove evolution, even after I argued they weren't the same thing! Even if they were, abiogenesis is a hypothesis at best and is undergoing research. It's sad how willfully ignorant these people choose to be. Thanks for all the work you do Aron!

You could probably invent faster than light travel, point a super gigantic telescope towards earth from 30 million lightyears away, record all the individual specimen that evolved into all modern apes. And creationists would still find some way to move the goalpost.

I'm a macroevolution hasbeen.

When I am presented with 'but evolution is just a theory' I always see the available paths to them seeing reason rapidly closing. Will they even understand evolution if you teach them? Is there any point in trying? How many of them actually want to learn the truth?

In my opinion this is one of the best refutations of creationism one could possibly pack into a 30 minute video. Detailed yet concise. Straight to the point. Absolutely brilliantly done.

It's like they are saying you can take a step, but you can't go for a walk

Buffalo grass can tolerate heavy metals. Aron can also tolerate heavy metals Therefore, Aron is buffalo grass. 😂

So there is a fake Aron Ra asking me to debate him on telegram now since I posted here.

The breeder of my mother's poodle initiated the "Deutsche Neufarbenzucht" (german new colour breeding) in postwar Germany He wanted to create new stable colour variations for poodles, that in his time were very limited. For that he had to find out systematically how fur colours are inherited, how they mix etc. But dog breeding is slow, each try takes half a year,. It would have taken many decades to get ANYwhere. So he decided he would test out the rules with mice. There you are down to two months per generation. After a few years he had found the rules, and then applied his knowledge for the poodles. Just an example that you can develop evolutionary rules all by yourself and verify the transferability.

Creationist: *puts fingers in ears* "LALALALALALALALAICAN'THEARYOU!!!!!"

Aron what's going on with the Phylogeny explorer project?

That's awesome, but I discovered Macaroni-evolution. (I put bacon in it).🎉

Yet they still can't define what a KIND is ? A Clade, or a Species

Seeing as how Facebook is a public forum, there is no reason to block their name out.

I can hear the frustrated Christian noises: "buuuut that's still micro evolutionnn" "this means nothiing" "ok but you still have NO proof of something coming from nothing sooo" "ok but who created the first creature that the other ones evolved from huuuh?" (those last two cries are coming from more intelligent Christians, don't be confused by their higher level of understanding of this topic)

best impersonation of a creationist ever ;) and if ever you present creationists with undeniable layperson macro evolution like some deformations due to genetics, they'll just call it devil's work

The smoke in Aron’s background makes me like to imagine that he’s just finished smoking a massive blunt off camera lol

I'm in that group from Facebook and I've gone round and round with him myself. Only member that does the 🔶️ by every single one of his responses making it a chore to read. Great video. Glad a member tagged you.

Now Aron needs to voice a cartoonish thug protecting a mob boss or something. XD

My favorite example of a species evolving right now that we as humans have been watching and observing since the later 1960's to current date is the Walking Catfish. I have discussed this with many creationists and evolution deniers ..whether they confirm macro evolution or not or even micro evolution. There is direct visible recorded and physical and documented evidence of this particular catfish type changing and evolving generations after generations. The changes are beneficial and so blatantly obvious that evolution is completely undeniable. This is a type of catfish that we have been steadily watching it evolve over the last 50 to 60 or whatever years. The last person I discussed this with struggled with that this must be something else because of generations between one and the next... 60 years is not enough .as humans that's barely one generation... I had to correct him that we are not talking about a generation of a human to insert this... But it is the generation of a catfish . A catfish is viable to reproduce within about two years... And they can reproduce approximately once to possibly twice every year at reproductive viability. This means that over the last 60 or so years there are approximately 50 plus generations in the last 60 or so years.. With humans that's only one or two generations or even 3 if you put the generation at every 20 years. Once he understood this he had no choice but to except that evolution on all these areas are in fact a demonstrable fact. He then just switched from a stance of creationism that god created everything as it is...to one that god created certain ones as they are and others just evolved from those..but it's part of gods design..for things to evolve... Except humans.. Humans are the only one that god created completely separate and there is no evolution there.. humans do not evolve. Humans are not as all other animals, humans are not animals. I corrected this as well and showed him evolution in humans. Even recent more modern evolutionary changes that we as humans have today and recent humans of more recent generations are having in comparison to humans even a couple hundred years ago..or a few thousand years ago. Then I brought up the biblical narrative.. I showed him that if god had created all the original species and animals and other life as it was in the beginning..and then it was completed and finished..it says god was done..there was no more creating...from here on forward there was no more creating and evolution was what took place..as per the design...he agreed... I showed him that if by this model ..we see that humans were not around yet.. there are no examples or fossils or anything.. so did god lie and then wait millions upon tens of millions to hundreds of millions of years to then create humans?? So he was not done .he did not finish and did not rest?? He just waited?? Took a break?? And when he decided to create humans after all this time he made humans with so many characteristics that blend end look like they evolved from other life forms that existed before them. He then blocked me..he was trapped and he knew it. This will always be the route creationists will take . Because they will not ever want to accept that humans are just like all other life and it evolved from other life and is going to continue to evolve as all life does. That humans are not unique or special or different..we are just another type of life and animal just like all others are .we are just another different type of species that has evolved. We are not special or set apart. This is ego and pride to think you are . And according to the biblical narrative it says that such people will not go to heaven and receive eternal life.

It's like saying we see new designs of personal cars being made but we never see small car being turned into big car

A mate of mine has come up with a term for this as, "stupid evil."

It's ALL macroevolution. The macro/micro divide is a false dichotomy. In fact, let's just call it 'evolution,' shall we?

I read an article were scientists in Japan discovered a bacteria that has evolved the ability to eat plastic. "To date, over 400 species of plastic-eating fungi and bacteria have been identified worldwide. Their presence is proportional to the amount of plastic pollution around them." Obviously since plastic is not found in nature I thought that was a really interesting example of rapid evolution.

I was a honest Christian. And after 3 years of trying to prove gods existence with out fallacies... I was an ex Christian.

Thanks for taking the time to explain all this, Aron. Good video. Just because a creationist "disappeared" and stopped engaging with you doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean you convinced them; it doesn't mean they are a liar; it doesn't mean they are still creationist. People stop engaging all the time for all sorts of reasons. I have hundreds of open conversations myself. I simply don't have time to argue with every Christian or creationist out there.

The grass that thrives with Heavy Metal is the coolest!

"I accept I-75 goes from Detroit to Toledo, but it could never make it all the way to Florida."

As usual, Aron, an EXCELLENT video. I always thought whenever the creatards question speciation, I would ask "What is a penguin, right now?" It's obviously a bird, but doesn't fly and swims better than some fish. I'm probably wrong, but maybe it's an animal that is transiting between species?

Wow, your voice over in the beginning tells us how truly fed up you are with the ignorance and lies of theists

Observed on numerous occasions. It's basically history by now

17:00 - I heard you roll your eyes from across the room, so I needed to rewind and see that. 😄

In addition to many species which are housed in the Farlow Herbarium, located at the Harvard University Herbaria, Wolfe spent months tracking rare species in far-flung locations like London and Hawaii. After extracting DNA from the samples, Wolfe used the genetic codes of four different genes to determine how the various species are related to one another. He then used a process called ancestral state reconstruction to show that the mushrooms have switched from being decomposers to being symbiotic with trees only once in their evolutionary history. Once the mushrooms switched to this new symbiotic lifestyle, they didn't go back to their free-living past. Ultimately, Pringle said, the paper highlights one reason she finds such symbiotic partnerships "intrinsically interesting" -- for all their apparent benefits, the cost can be high. "I think the really interesting thing is this idea that once you become symbiotic, some of your machinery is lost," she said. "It seems like a dead end in some ways -- you have to make this change to enter this niche, but once you're there, you can't go back -- you've lost the capacity to be free-living." Arguably the most widely-recognized group of mushrooms in the world, Amanita mushrooms have appeared in popular culture ranging from Fantasia to the Super Mario Brothers video games. Though it includes a number of edible species, such as the Amanita caesarea, the group is probably best known for its many toxic species, including the death-cap mushroom. Armed with their family tree, Pringle and Wolfe were able to determine that Amanita evolution has largely been away from species that help decompose organic material and toward those that live symbiotically on trees and their roots. More interestingly, they found that the transition came at a steep price -- the loss of the genes associated with breaking down cellulose. "There had been earlier suggestions that this type of gene loss might be taking place, but our study is the first precise test of that hypothesis," Pringle said. "The idea makes sense -- if you're going to actively form a cooperative relationship with a tree, you probably shouldn't simultaneously be trying to break it apart and eat it. But it's a very tricky dance to form these kinds of tight, cooperative interactions, and I think this work shows there is a cost associated with that. You have to change, you have to commit, and it can become a sort of gilded cage -- these mushrooms are very successful, but they're stuck where they are." Harvard researchers are unlocking the evolutionary secrets of one of the world's most recognizable groups of mushrooms, and to do it, they're using one of the most comprehensive fungal "family trees" ever created. As reported in paper published July 18 in PLoS ONE, Associate Professor of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology Anne Pringle and Ben Wolfe, a Post-Doctoral Fellow in FAS Center for Systems Biology, studied the genetics of more 100 species of Amanita mushrooms -- about one-sixth of the genus' total diversity -- to create an elaborate phylogeny showing how each species is related to one another. New research finds that Amanita mushrooms' evolution has largely been away from species that help decompose organic material and toward those that live symbiotically on trees and their roots. More interestingly, scientists found that the transition came at a steep price -- the loss of the genes associated with breaking down cellulose.

Like people starting to be born with out wisdom teeth

Great breakdown. Science wins.

Procambarus virginalis is my favourite example of observed macroevolution.

Haven't we seen it with super bugs in hospitals.

I suppose I am a sincere believer. My position has been quite shaken lately. 35 years ago, after I earned a BS in Geology, I no longer was a creationist but still a christian. Really the YEC position never came up until recently when the church I was attending had an "apologist" from CMI touting that the Earth was 6000 years old. Seems like now a days, you can't believe in Jesus unless you also believe the Earth is 6000 years and a global flood occurred which I know did not happen. So yes, I am currently re-evaluating my position on these matters. Aron, nice to meet you.