called keeping it real. more of the acting world should fucking do it.

Lots of ancient 1960s-70s-80s Skins and ex-Skins (or maybe younger ones who weren`t even there) trying to virtue-signal and rewrite history here by pretending they loved Blacks & Asians and didn`t kick the shite out of them given half a chance lololol....I grew up in London in the 1960s-70-80s and remember exactly what you were all like,stop lying.

He's a crap skinhead, nothing like the ones I remember. He's a lefty fantasy - not real. 🤭

​@@mjh5437oh so you met every single one of them then?

​@@mjh5437I'm in Blackpool where during the 1980s Indian population went in the prom Paki bashing !!!!!!

I was trying to place his face!

Yep you can see the difference between true charisma and good acting. Tim has it both in spades.

'Ere. You a carpenter?

brilliant actor. Great in Reservoir Dogs too

42 years now

I agree. Taxi driver

😂😂😂

You are absolutely right, you know what really upsets me though is when they make really, REALLY amazingly made movies and years later believe they can remake them better when the first one looks like it was filmed flawlessly, i.e. Annie, The Wizard of Oz, The Shining(I believe Steven King didn't like the first one because he didn't have any part of making it), Carrie, Footloose, etc., on very rare occasions the remake is better than the original. Peace and much love sent from Ontario, Canada.

So, so true. Hollywood seems to have abandoned this sort of film work for two dimensional, CGI driven vacuous junk. I remember watching this in my twenties, when it was first shown and being blown away by the performances. No surprise that Tim Roth went on to be a star. Another film that's worth a watch that Tim Roth was in around that time for TV was 'Meantime' ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i75-Zdlm1dGyh6s.html ). It also stars performances from Gary Oldman, Alfred Molina and Phil Daniels. That one was directed by Mike Leigh. Him and Alan Clarke both great directors, who really brought some tremendous performance out of the people they worked with. Their modern day equivalent would be someone like Shane Meadows. (Check out 'Dead Man's Shoes' by him, a favourite of mine.)

@@kathall6422 ...Absolutely right.

Now they’re tar brush of ‘right wing’ stretches to having questions about arrivals. This country is being crushed.

​@@jamessones4044only by the Nazi Tory party and the effing brexit loons

True. .. and to all brainwashed by media ppl: this isn't about the pigmentation of one's skin (skinhead's bff was black btw) it about - CULTURE SHOCK example: you hate sci Fi movies, then all the sudden, there's predominantly Sci-Fi movies on TV and streaming! Do you hate with all your heart sci-fi movies..... No of course not, you just want things the way they were men's and expected to be within reason along with progression and giving allowances to others as you would want as a guest and somebody else's nation/country/culture, yeah? If I were working in india, and all of a sudden the country was hammering down on Americans or white people or orange people with purple polka dots,

Love Tim Roth. He was good out of the gate..

Romper Stomper is better

You took the words out of my mind.....really great scene.

yep.

Its incredible, gave me hope he might actually change!

me too - he had the best handwriting I have ever seen on a backboard.

To do it in such long takes that well, was very impressive

I'm a Canadian and I agree with you. It shows that those in government want slaves that obey without question instead of those that speaks out against the evil's done by those Hosers in government who need to take off eh!

@FelixstoweFoamForge Trevor does NOT have a point! Toeing the line is preferable to a cell, which is where he ends up...rightly so.

Exactly cross, young Trevor is a sad example of a guy living in a country which was built for him and he’s too stupid to get his sh&$t together and make something of himself. Instead, like many of these clowns, they rail against the system, slag immigrants, commit crime all because they are too lazy to get up off their asses and work and want to blame everyone except themselves for failing when everything was stacked in his favour from birth and then play the victim/race card - pathetic at best

its even worse now, that was when society was much better

So true. I got as far as attendance centre like Trevor but luckily no further.

Trevor has tons of redeeming qualities. He's just too irrationally angry and that's tragic. Testosterone kills many many people. Guy like trevor needs an easy job with a cool mentor. Great mechanic there. He needs to know that life isn't hell. Life is hell at this point.

There's a name for that: "Antihero." Tony Soprano, Tony Montana, The Joker, Hannibal Lecter, (etc.) Murdering psychopaths, adulterers, violent criminals who SOMEHOW manage to endear themselves to the audience through sheer character.

@@NormAppleton No. Trevor has few, if any, redeeming qualities about him and it has nothing to do with testosterone, because there are women who can be just as sick and mentally twisted as Trevor becomes. Trevor is an example when a bright minded person with no guidance because of a broken system acts out when they feel they have nothing to lose. Trevor is a deplorable, hateful, racist skinhead who unfortunately, because his intelligence, tricks himself into believing 80s British National Front propaganda and becomes a street thug with a vile cause. The saddest thing is that Trevor is told what will happen to him if he doesn't bother to change his behavior and is given an option out. What does he do? He decides to piss it all away by embracing his fate with open arms and take someone else down with him in the process. Rather than using his intelligence to right himself, he neglects it so he can continue to screw up until his fate is in the hands of the police. Not juvenile reform centers.

Legendary style of filming, Raw,hard and like it was.

​@@jamessones4044i think the film works because it isnt really about racism or neo nazism in britain per se. Trevor is just an extremely violent tempered troubled angry lost youth looking for trouble wherever he can, and the far right is likely a desire for some sense of belonging. He befriends a black kid, and largely seems to hate everyone

He was brilliant in "Rillington place" based on true story about serial killer John Christie,the 3 part drama was a remake of the 1971 film "10 Rillington place" which starred Richard Attenborough.

Fuck yeah banger of a tune.

​@@allanmacmillan7287yeah mate gotta be their best one...fuck the usa, daily news,germs..what a piece of wax.

Sorry Steve but it wasn't a master piece in music as the film is about a racist skinhead and the Exploited are punk. i know why don't we do a movie about jazz but in the background play hip-hop..get what i'm saying my friend? and as an ex-skin i'm sick to the fcuking teeth of these types of movie..Made in Britain, Romper Stomper, American X, This is England.. ALWAYS portraying the skinhead as a nazi..bit difficult when the original skinhead music was JAMAICAN SKA.

Damn right.

@@KerrMarrin-vn1kv, TBh, I think the choice of the Exploited was more about just how bloody furious we all were back then, no matter if we were punks, skins or whatever. Personally speaking, I spent the '80s in a state of near constant hopeless rage. BUT, to return to your point, I knew a few Skins, and the "racist" tag certainly didn't apply to them.

Absolutely 💯 should be used to this day!

cos yanks dont speak eloquently like eejits like me

Plus you'd get chalk, or blackboard eraser chucked at your head, or caned,

All great films .

Kes was exactly what our school was like.

wow these THREE are right up their with the best well said sir!

Quadrophenia (1979) Babylon (1980)

Dead man's shoes

One of my first films we tim roth what a guy x

He steals the show in this and rob Roy yet is strangely underrated

And the guy from the Bill is in it!!!

We sure did, the little tins of Evo Stick the best glue. 😂🤣

😂 In my mid 50s now and a couple of months ago I bought some evo stick to glue some wood boards together. As soon as I opened the tin the early 80s came flooding back. Good job the missus was in the house otherwise the gluing project would have been abandoned and the white bread 🍞 would have been given to the 🐦 so I could use the bag 😃 I didn’t even know that evo stick was supposed to be used for wood 🪵 glue until I bought it from wilko 🤣😂🤣

​@@ianwhitehead691i remember them Dayz, evo-stick, puncture outfit glue, spray cansLol.... Madness, the specials, crombies, loafers, Harrington jackets.....in 82 i wos 16....... Great days!!!

I was too wee in 82 to experience the joys of evo-stick but mum will always remember me enjoying the whiff of ⭐⭐⭐⭐ whilst she filled up her Mini Mayfair. I always made sure to help out at the pump!

lost my viginity to a glue sniffing girl at a bus stop

lol it's not HD, it's actually pretty poor quality. Look at the state of the blackboard scene.

@@craigix It's still a lot better than the older / copied uploads on here.

I'm rewatching cos a friend mentioned it yesterday and tried to say it was stupid cos Trevor, a skinhead gets pally with the black lad. I had to explain to him even though he's late 30s that true skinheads were into ska music, black music and that it's anarchistic counter culture that wanted to rebel against all authority. Only later did it become racist with the national front and combat 18 and they just copied the hair. He pointed out Trevor's swastika saying it proved he was racist. I had to explain that it was just a fuck you to authority in same way the old heavy metal bands used it. It kind of shocked me that I had to explain it, cos of the 90s racist skinheads, he fully believed that the whole thing was a racist movement. It was basically cos of all the unions and closures, kids grew up thinking they had no future in the 70s and 80s and rebelled and absolutely nothing about race to begin with. I thought it was common knowledge but seems the 90s skinheads have changed histories view of them. Even the anti immigrants attitude was all about work, Trevor even uses the word paki a few times but they were against any immigration coming and taking their jobs and even the skies are more just to shock and show how pissed off they were rather than active rsciam

@@martintodd9944 Engineered social division. It's shocking that the current younger generation are as clueless as they are about it. I thought the advent of the internet might help people wise up but it means they're actually just even more easily manipulated 🤦‍♂

@@wavydavy9816 its cos they believe everything they see on social media and distrust normal media cos of Trump. I follow a lot of conspiracy facebook groups cos i find it funny debunking them and watching the responses, but its disturbing what some of these fools believe

It was Bleak

@@wavydavy9816 yeah but it's crazy how skinheads started over ska music, but were later seen as racist, isn't it? And 95% of people don't even realise the skinhead genre started cos of black music, ain't it?

Ha, we actually watched it at school in the 5th form!!

Same! First time watching in 40 years! It's brilliant.

Reservoir dogs sucked arse.

I've noticed Tim giving off a lot of micro aggressions in this.

Was hoping the plods were going to be Jim Carver and Reg Hollis

More so when you've given up your capital city.

Controlled immigration is great for any strong society we have just had so much it's damaged our culture and society irreparably forever. There in no fixing it, it will only ever get worse

they all feel cheated, really you fall into this behavior out of protection for yourself they are not to be blamed

@@wilihey1425They don't feel cheated, they ARE cheated.

Let’s not forget the Errols too. Whilst someone would like to widen the divide between Trevors and Errols, there’s one thing that remains objectively true: they have more in common on the basis of class than they have differences.

And if he not, he'd be watching everything he prophecised cone true.

@@realMaverickBuckley So predictable that there would be dipshit muppets like you unable to think for yourselves repeating the bs you have picked up from the powers that control you. Pathetic.

Quentin Tarantino did crossovers,Ringo should have been Trevor what he was doing 12 years later living in America trying to be a modrnday Bnnie and Clyde.

Most of my then Skinhead mates are dead I went to the army before I got a criminal record good mates good hard days !!!!

we was!

This was life in 80s England, you picked your tribe, Skin, Mod, Punk, whatever, and it was a tough time. Thatcherism, job centres.

Imagine what Trevor would have done to Roland if he'd been cast in Grange Hill .. and we thought Gripper was a nutter lol

Oi Oi Oi Punk 'N' Skins 🧷✊🏻

If anything takes me back to the 80s it's seeing discarded glue bags everywhere, nowadays they seem to have gone the way of white dog shit nowhere to be seen

@@iangoldie6396 Yeah the bags can still be found round our way but they're attached to half plastic pop bottles with skunk residue stains.. But its weird that you mentioned about the white dogs eggs that were laid everywhere during the 80s.. I think the petfood companies added a lot more bonemeal to the tinned food because thats what causes that phenomena .. I only just found out a couple of years ago after feeding my dog on loads of bones and his cacka was like sandstone lol !

​@@margaretmoore7034How do you explain the fur lining? 🤔

Rybbish,I got a job easy in the early 80s,,join the dole ?if your lazy maybe

@@netcurtains think you must of lived in a parallel universe to the one I lived in .

​@@chidizzy6633A parallel universe where people used have instead of of?

You mean the good old days 🤣

​@@jedfra9172 Fuck, NO.

Geoffrey Hutchings, good actor

Sticks in my mind so much. I went through similar at that age. The acting is so amazing, I've rewatched it so many times.

Roth plays it so well too, the superintendents actually getting thru to him and then he leaves the room, and immediately Trevor goes on the offensive against the other authority figures (all first names with you lot) the way you can see the gears turning in Trevor’s head when he’s about to go from an implicit mention of racism to a full blown rant. Really fucking powerful scene

There are some huge chunks of dialogue superbly delivered.

Yea how treated then boys was bad many old glue sniffer went to Speed and then Heroin

I hope you're happy and doing well now though pal.

I was part of hat back in the early 80s.

Yep, you could stay on the Dole forever back then. My Uncle had the mortgage on his house paid for while on the dole after being made redundant in the 80's -he decided never to worked again.....Can you imagine that happening today?

You’ve had from 83 till now to learn Punjabi. How’s it going?

I knew I'd seen him somewhere else. He seems to look much older than he was in Scum, but then Clarke always used a lot of the same actors in his films. Different rapists in the original 1977 Scum though.

😂😂

I’m not the only one who remembers him shooting his load into Davis in the greenhouse then 😂😂

That scene and then the suicide after where some grim powerful stuff... I remember watching it as a kid and being pretty traumatized by that one... Films are too polished to be believable and real nowadays compared to these gritty scenes and acting

That actor had a very small role in Grange Hill too.

I don't know if I would trust myself that much to not fall asleep or get distracted and forget to update a comment hahaha

I feel for you bro that must be tough.

tough go, mate. Did you reunite with your sisters?

yes @@jeph33

I went to Chelfham mill school from 75/76 , was confused as to why i went there as only 9yrs old , viaduct was where i used to spend most of the day if not wandering the countryside . Brings back a lot of memories .

@@bazcarlton9117 I must of seen you there I was there 1975 to 1978

Meantime is a brilliant piece of work. Superb performance by Tim Roth. 👍👍

I like The Firm. Especially 'Star Trekkin across the universe.'

Gary Oldman’s skinhead in meantime is priceless!

Meantime is one my favourite ever films 😊

And Gary Oldman in "Sid and Nancy".

It WAS good but towards the end was bloody awful.

Isn't it? Bugger all has changed.

Well I got £25:00 per week as an apprentice in 1992 so taking into account inflation that supermarket job advertised at the job centre was a good wage in 1982 compared to what I was on a decade later.

I was one of the lucky ones - I started work in 1985 on the vast wage of £26. 25 a week!

@@paulwilliams8389 My first Dole check back then was the grand sum of £17 per week. Enough to buy about 20 pints. Today, that would have to be about £100.

By 1982 i was on about £35 per week as draughtsman in a forge.

I think that not long after making this film, Tim Roth starred with John Hurt in The Hit..

@@pashvonderc381 Thanks, I will keep a look out for that one, John Hurt was a great actor.

@@derekstocker6661 true he was, the film ain’t too bad either, filmed in Spain I think it was.

@@pashvonderc381 John Hurt was in Rob Roy too. Arguably, Tim Roth played the same character (Trevor) in that film too. Once the wig came off.

Quentin Tarantino did crossovers,Ringo should have been Trevor,what he did 12 years later living in America trying to be a modernday Bonbnie and Clyde.

Oh please, dudes a nazi. Theres nothing more mindless than that

Huh?

*Britain's :)

Why would he last no more than an hour on Britain's streets today?

@@jandocherty5834life isn’t the same, things have changed.

Very true, in this day and age he will get stabbed out on the streets with his attitude. In some respects kids now are far worse than in the 80s, less morals. and the line is not clearly set. The police have become soft.

@@x66Hawk66x the kids today have less morals than a kid with a swastika on his head?

I don’t know, my area hasn’t changed. You can still rent VHS.

​@@way2tehdawn Can't even walk outside without getting followed home by culturally enriched youths

lmao dont lie. @@way2tehdawn

​@@DARKNESS66611For one dreadful moment i thought you were going to use the P word ....

@@DARKNESS66611 u must be scared of your own shadow you P U S S Y

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Your not wrong there mate

Imagine if it was possible 2bring back some of the dead, give then a look around.

Think you’ve taken the wrong idea from this

No it hasn't. You're like him if you think like this.

Oi! I'm one of the disaffected youth from the 80's, and the only people I'm cursing are the same old political fuck ups who keep on making the same old sodding mistakes. We didn't all grow old and start wearing cardigans! 😛

Same from 8os too​@@FelixstoweFoamForge

not cursing them at all although i wasn´t quite the generation anyhow

Both these films you mention are now Legendary!

I dont know which film sucks more

Wasn't he responsible for Scum in 1979?

@@Marvin-dg8vj yes absolutely. He made scum for BBC television it got banned.. So he then made the feature film. Both are brutal portrayals of life in the big house. He also made the other classic the firm.. starring Gary Oldman as a football hooligan.. Alan Clarke was first class

rip

Wast it a shorter version on tv ….one of the play for today series I think

It was made for TV, like almost all of Alan Clarke's features. As far as I can tell, this is the full film.

Funny thing is that the police have now virtually become social workers, and they get even less respect! Which is the best approach I wonder?

Yeah it looks good in today's age...but living it was different

the Late 80s as it became known was totally diffrent to the Early 80's!!almost like a complete diffrent decade!

@@Ickie71 The music was Stock Aiken and Waterman and house instead of new romantic and attitudes changed.Contradicting myself there was a new romantic comeck in 89,best year of my life after 1984.

Bob cryer

27:19 Mel from benidorm

@@hermanthetosser4219well spotted

One hell of a honker on him,couldn't miss that,decent actor,Sgt Bob Cryer

Yep sod sharing a line with him 🤣

I'm a Canadian and I agree with you. It shows that those in government want slaves that obey without question instead of those that speaks out against the evil's done by those Hosers in government who need to take off eh!

Yeah I instantly recognised him, can't miss thst nose anywhere. I also swear the superintendent was Mel from benidorm.

agreed, with terrence stamp?

@@gaz4840yes brilliant film

From is "my beautiful launderette "

Me and a couple of mates watched The Hit when we were about 13 year olds on VHS and was that impressed with the bar scene where he takes on 4 Spanish dudes we made some ninja throwing stars!@@gaz4840

Never saw them.

Which was worse, the 70's or the 80's?

@@dougquaid570 For me it was ramping up through the late 70s and became very bad through the 80s, I was just finishing school mid to late 80s, and it was a very bad time then.

Yeah. It's a sad truth, that a lot of youth like that would thrive as productive members of the nation if he was in another environment.