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I feel like it's also odd that, if you support Selena so much, you would continue to try and keep her connected to this guy she dated years ago, especially when it was an emotionally abusive situation. Like who would want to be connected to their ex in this way?

It’s ridiculous not even pedos are treated how this woman is harassed online

It's odd that Selena's whole message is "be kind to people", but her fans seem to do the complete opposite of that.

I don't follow any celebrity news, but how ironic that for then calling Hailey a stalker and a bully, they themselves are stalkers and bullies (and heck I'll even say even worse ones, it's disgusting how the same people that say they hate misogyny are the same ones that bully and harass women the most and so brutally).

It’s so ironic how the fandoms call her a stalker but the fans are literally stalking all of them

I don’t think we need to point out the irony of Jefferee Starr saying “we Stan Selena in this house, not mean girl bullying” but I’m laughing my ass off abt it

In a world where everyone preaches "mental health" and feeling sorry for Britney and how the media treated her. It absolutely disgusts me how people are acting like absolute hypocrites. These two woman are grown adults, everyone thinks pitting both is acceptable. Shame on the media and the devoted Selenators for encouraging this behaviour. Thank you for making this video and not making it one sided how some Tiktokers are playing the narrative. Btw I love Selena and Hayley, they are two gorgeous ladies who seem genuine and mean no harm. lets do better

I don’t like Hailey but like public enemy #1 should have been Justin the fact that Justin has faced like minimal backlash while literally pitting women against eachother FOR YEARS

Justin’s silence during this whole ordeal is incredibly loud- at the very least support your wife from the hate, that’s the bare minimum..

The only thing that's truly creepy about this is that there's a whole bunch of people who are so invested in the relationships of strangers. I don't really understand the obsession with celebrities.

Hailey’s g tattoo stands for Georgia. Chad Veach’s daughter. She is really sick and he had a whole thing going on with the letter G. Lots of friends of his got it tattooed. (:

Honestly it's really hard for Hailey, imagine constantly being compared to your husband's ex , not even being happy in a marriage, getting constant hate daily online, being shamed for looks . I mean even if she did any mistake , no one deserves to be harrassed like that .

I'm old enough to remember when the Selena and Justin's relationship got public, how the Bieber fans were hating on Selena for "stealing their boy". This makes this whole behaviour / actions of the fans even more pathetic and ironic.

Your slip of the tongue and saying "Hailena" made me think of an alternate timeline where those women got together and left Justin in the dust 😂

Severe unhappiness and illness can occur at any socioeconomic level. Multimillionaires commit suicide and drink themselves to death too. If I were close to Hailey, I would be extremely concerned about that relationship and how her mind is being warped. I am glad you correctly identified the bad guy (Justin). A study came out that $500,000 was the sweet spot for money buying happiness. Poverty does bring so much stress and unhappiness, but millions of dollars is not a cure to it. I sure wouldn't mind one million dollars though lol.

I remember seeing him getting married and going good for them, you go. It's absolutely absurd how fans doesn't want the best for the one they look up to. I know not all fans are like this, and i feel sorry for them as these fanatics overshadow them. I hope Hailey and Justin can compartmentalize and focus on each other. If they're happy, that's all that matters. It's also ironic that they call her a mean girl when they act like one

jefree flop star saying “we’re team not bullying people” literally is so funny to me and has got to be the most hypocritical thing said this decade😭😭

It's amazing to me that it's been 24 years since Fight Club came out and this quote is still relevant: "We're consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder? Crime? Poverty? These things don't concern me. What concerns me is celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guys' name on my underwear...it's all going down, man!"

I think that what makes this a bit more hard to gauge is that Hailey is very rarely seen being "human", she's mostly very camera ready and maintains a certain perfect image of herself, to the point where even when Justin would be publicly disrespecting her, you either see no reaction at all or you see her smiling and turning it into a joke. Hard to tell how they treat each other in private, but I find it commendable that they shared their struggles with the marriage and tried to get the help they needed.

The fact that millions of people seem to think they are not only justified, but righteous in bullying either of these women; while simultaneously calling themselves champions against bullying is gross. Not one of these fan groups know these individuals enough to have an opinion on the situation. How can they call Hayley a mean girl and BE a mean girl to this woman? It’s ridiculous. Do something with your lives so you don’t have to worry about them.

So basically… No real reason? Speculation and fandom craziness? Wow. Society is sick.

It is crazy we live in a time were social media has bridged the gap between celebrity and normal people. I can’t imagine having the amount of hate directed towards you as some of these celebrities

Honestly, it might just be jealousy. Every time I see hate for Hailey it's over something so tiny and meaningless, like wearing a similar dress to Selena or something. Like they already made up their mind to hate her, now they're just trying to find a reason.

Whats REALLY interesting is that people choose to hate Hailey (a female) as apposed to hating Justin. HE is the one who treated Selena like crap and now treats his wife like crap. Makes no sense people!!!! Edit: i left this comment RIGHT BEFORE she said the same damn thing! Lol.

i find it so interesting how people are bullying others to express how they hate bullying, theres a huge difference between holding somebody accountable and harassing a person

I’m just confused on how people are SO pressed about someone they’ve likely never met…. 😅

They talk like Selena is the most original woman ever. She is a normal celebrity like Hailey is. 🙄

37:47 okay, but to be fair if the dates are correct that means Hailey wore it first. It's a really common fit though so I believe no copying was done on either part here. I also adore how you just let your son do his thing without telling him to get out or get angry that he interrupted you.

Saying she doesnt deserve empathy because she is rich and famous is INSANE

Honestly, them admitting how hard marriage is and also sharing that they went and got help is very adult and speaks volumes of the comittment they actually are willing to make.

"Stanning" celebrities to this level is insane. I couldn't stoop to that measly level.

Situations like this remind me how much I hate current pop culture. Imagine being so deep in all of this absolute clownish drama and having so little of value to do in their lives that they'd choose instead to get into all this mess. It's embarrassing for everyone involved; if they had any dignity at all, they'd be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. And I'm not just talking about the celebrities; I'm talking about the people on social media going on about them like they're the most important people in the history of anything ever. I'm sitting here, watching this video, and thinking, "Why am I even watching this? I hate people like them. They're superficial, hyper-privileged people followed and obsessed over by other superficial people who desperately need to touch some grass." The only answer I have is that CWHM presents them without creating drama to go along with it. She fact-checks, presents multiple facets to the stories she tells, and in the end, lets people form their own opinions. The people she covers may be human trainwrecks for various reasons, but watching CWHM makes the weirdly undeniable need to watch those trainwrecks as they crash and burn far more tolerable.

One thing I’ve found strange in all of this is how SO MANY, soooooo so many people act like they KNOW Selena. Like this is their bff and they know who she is and her character off camera. Social media has lead to a lot of really unhealthy parasocial relationships where people really believe they know these celebrities. We don’t. We never will. But people go to bay for her like she’s their childhood friend

I love that you’ve taken the view of looking more into why Justin may be the problem and we shouldn’t be pitting the two women against each other who just fell in love with the same person. I feel sorry for both Hailey and Selena. Hailey will never outshine Selena or the relationship she had with Justin and that must be hard to deal with. Most people couldn’t endure what celebrities deal with so they’re actually both incredibly strong women

I wouldn’t say Hailey is fine just because she’s rich and famous. She’s a human being too. She and Selena both have dealt with more drama and bs than they should have had to. The fact that they’re dehumanized because they’re rich and famous is mind boggling and I hate how society does that to these people.

There’s something I don’t understand; if you truly are a Selenator, why would you support a relationship that we all know was very toxic? Selena even said in one of her songs “of course she was sad, but now she’s glad she dodged a bullet” So she clearly wouldn’t go back to it, why are people so invested in proving that Justin is still in love with her?…

Interested- I know literally nothing about this woman “She doesn’t deserve the Bieber last name” my dude Justin looks like if Florida gentrification grew a body

I thought it had been common knowledge for years that Justin was a scummy guy. Neither of these women deserve the hate imo.

It actually started with the TikTok supposedly shading Selena that Hailey posted and then quickly deleted. I wanted to add this because I think it makes it more clear why the eyebrow thing was jumped on so aggressively.

I just wanna point out that men constantly making their girlfriends/wives constantly feel compared to the men's exes and manipulating them into needing to 'prove' that they're better is a thing that exists. If Selena's already talked about Justin emotionally manipulating her, I wouldn't be surprised if he's part of Hailey's fixation in the past. Especially if Justin knew Hailey was a fan of him as a teen and had already been emotionally invested in his relationship with Selena.

THANK YOUUUUU for pointing out so accurately the issue of projecting ALL the problems onto Hailey instead of Justin! He is so damn toxic and he made the choices. I mean, Selena herself stated that out various times?! I am such a huge fan of Selena myself and I just don't understand this narrative of "Hailey stole Justin". 🤢 Damn, it's so frustrating that in 2023 still everything is about the women and never about the men. Crazy ... and sad! Above all: How can one invest so much time in other people's relationships? Don't they have a life? 🙆🏻‍♀

i think the fact that hailey has a documented past of being racist (along with justin) should have been brought up because that’s a real and valid reason a lot of people don’t like her

You NEED to make a video about how petty selena is as well bts. She is going out of her way to comment on videos about how bad hailey is and showing love to those who hate on her. Im not saying she is the satan itself but she definetly is not the good vibes only angel that she and people make her out to be.

All these millions of people screaming about how they hate bullying and mean girls while literally being mean bullies themselves....... I feel so sorry for Hailey. I don't care how much money she grew up with, no one's mental health could be okay with the world all hating you at once.

I think it's funny how she's constantly referred to as Alec Baldwin's niece, but never as Stephen Baldwin's daughter.

I went and looked at Rhode skincare just to see what products were available, as someone with oil prone skin, the glazing hydration aspect of it kinda scared me, but if I had more dry skin I'd probably have given it a try

I'm fascinated at how little happened meanwhile the fans where snowballing out the hill. One would have thought these two where caught attempting murder on each other. If you ever get so tangled into gossip like this, please just step away from social media.

I also didn't love Hailey beiber much before this drama, I usually find people with that influencer lifestyle to be obnoxious, but after she got so much hate, I'm definitely on the side of defending her because it's just public shaming at this point 😭

Something that some people miss is that Selena Gomez has liked or responded to a post about people hating on Hailey. So its it’s not like Selena is above all the drama

The funny thing about all of this is that these peoples personal lives are none of our business.

"Shipping" real people should get your social media access revoked.

People are looking everywhere for proof that Hayley is copying Selena, or that she's a bad person, but everyone ignores the red flags from Justin Bieber and Selena saying he was an abusive boyfriend. Why would someone who call themselves a "fan" would want their idol to get back with someone who hurt them??? I cannot understand (Also, just a thought, but some abusive partners, especially the ones who cheat, can compare their partners to their ex or their other partners to degrade them and manipulate them. This can create jealousy and envy from the victim toward the ex/other partners, and sometimes a need to copy them, to be enough to their abuser. I'm not speculating, just saying this can happen and that if Hayley is copying Selena, it's as much an issue with Justin than with her)

I can always depend on you to have an even hand on how celebrities are treated. Public shaming has become such a big part of our culture and a form of internet bonding and I'm really interested to hear what you have to say on this one considering she's been getting a ton of blowback for reasons I am... Mostly unfamiliar with I don't know these people lol

Selena is the most dramatic one. She is also a hailey Bieber hater. I have seen videos that proof that she’s been interacting hate accounts . Embracing more bullying towards hailey

I dated someone for 6 years off and on then he got married within the year of our breakup. It’s the wildest and most heart reaching experience when you go through it.

"But Kylie Jenner immediately denied any relation, involvement, or knowledge of Selena Gomez' eyebows." what a masterpiece of a sentence. the sheer absurdity of saying such a thing in the first place, the grave tone, the formal serious journalism type wording, the absolute hilarity of the idea of kylie having relations with selena's eyebrows, involvement with selena's eyebrows, knowledge of selena's eyebrows--- when i tell you i *shrieked*

I can understand Selena's fans being upset that he hurt her, but they seem to want then back together. For what? So he can keep on hurting her? It's like they wanted some fairy tale where Justin and Selena live happily ever after, but they clearly would have never been happy.

Haleys father, Stephen Baldwin is actually broke. Had to file for bankruptcy and almost lost his home, etc. Had to borrow money from good ol’ brother Alec! That’s why I think everybody found it so weird when he would try to push his daughter onto Justin Bieber when they were younger, he would show up at places wherever Justin Bieber was, and he would have Justin Bieber and his daughter say hi to each other. Imagine trying to set up your daughter to be with this Mega super star singer, because your ass is broke? It’s definitely not Stephen Baldwin‘s money. I can tell you that right now. Whatever money she has is from whatever maybe deals that she has done with certain businesses or what have you, or from uncle Alec.

I've never been able to get past Hailey looking like her Dad in a wig.

Even if she IS a copycat or even a bully (which tbh the so called evidence of her “bullying” is so incredibly tame and petty that I’d hardly be upset by it if I was Selena) the amount of hate and vitriol she has got is extremely disproportionate and disturbing. I honestly don’t know how she hasn’t had a breakdown about it yet.

The part where she gets mistaken as Gigi and then the pap follows up with…. “Bella..?”, made me cackle lmao

IDK Hailey Beiber being obsessed with Justin to the point of being on forums about him and then marrying him left a weird vibe in my mouth. I am not really a part of this either way and I don't believe in the "stole him from Selena" drama but from an outside look in (and not related to Selena) it has a big nepo vibe

I feel bad for Haliey Biber everyone doesn't even know her. She doesn't deserve it. People need to grow up and get a life.

Also how are people bullying Hailey SO bad but say “they hate bullying” 100% the spotlight should be on Justin IF anything. Imagine being in haileys shoes and every moment, everything you do gets compared to your boyfriend/husbands ex.. I would HATE IT!

i just can't get over her really racist, xenophobic tweets plus the creepy behaviour and shady stuff i'll never send hate her way tho

as an asexual + aromantic these entire celebrity relationship drama are very entertaining and i never understand why people care so much its so facinating i cant look away

This is so crazy, the endless ruthlessness they showed towards her baffles me the nerve so many have to drag this girl through the mud and hang her out to dry and leave her to the wolves then throwing her under the bus is so insane. They saw signs that weren’t there if anything I think they’ve watched way to many y2k high school movies or have some unresolved issues because bullying some person because you don’t like the fact that you’d rather this person you claim to worship yet you want that same person in a toxic environment because it suits you . Just the gall and nerve people have

The real bullies are those fans who refuse to move on!!!

i love selena but saying “you’re a bully! so i’m going to tell you your husband hates you!!” is SO insane & unhinged 😭😭 why is stan culture like this

I just wanna speak up on few things 1. G tattoo was a tribute to girl named Georgia who was born with lissencephaly. A lot of celebrities did the same one, including Justin and Hailey 2. J tattoo. I don't see anything wrong here. She is literally married to a man named Justin.. 3. Majority of outfits Hailey allegedly copied she wore first. 4. Cooking show is something you can calk a spin-off from their pandemic show with Justin where Hailey used to cook a lot too. And she did it there months before Selena started her show

P Diddy diddling Beiber adds a new dimension to this. He even referenced "an incident he's been dealing with for 10 years now " at the 55:00 minute mark

Love the fact that you took a moment to turn the attention to Justin and how his role is likely way bigger in all of this. I appreciate the way you approach the topic and how their backgrounds play into this whole narrative

As Selena said “don’t send anyone hate” like most people will never meet Hailey and they don’t know her personally. How can you judge someone you barely even know. How celebrities show themselves to the public isn’t always their true personality

Jeffree star saying that he doesn't support bullying is so fucking ironic lmao

Prayers for Justin and Hailey. Prayers for Selena. I feel they deserve peace just as much as we all do during this tough economic times. I was so sad when the media showed Hailey and Justin crying from being booed by fans. That was just disheartening that the fans actually brought them to tears. 😢

I don’t know if I’m in the minority in this but both Selena and Hailey are weirdos. Like both women have said and done shady things to each other just one for the all the hate. Also their beef only really started up again because of fans talking about it and Selena going to comment sections and hailey being all cryptic. Just leave both women alone because this drama is so lame if it happened in Highschool people would stop talking about after a 2 days. Hailey gives off mean girl vibes and Selena gives off attention seeking vibes that’s how I view them now. Also where’s all the hate for the men in the industry how have done way worse like we had brands talking about this, it was so weird.

Let's be real: any woman taking on the last name Bieber was always destined for the sledgehammer

There’s no way hailey is copying Selena bc both of them are kind of “norm-core” “trendy” aesthetics. It makes sense that they’re similar because they share the same ex for god’s sake. Now is selena decided to go full punk or some more out there aesthetic- then I could totally understand the copying thing. But tbh they’re both in that realm of celebrity who are just super normal & marketable- almost commercial type people.

comment section is surprisingly refreshing!! i was expecting more bullying from the "anti-bully" crowd.

Am I the only person who thinks that most of those “copying” instances are just two people who have similar styles following a very common trend that’s popular? Like I am pretty sure I saw those exact look on at least five other celebrities- *The tattoos are a bit sus tho.*

It’s also so annoying how free flowing the term mean girl is. What about these terrible and ‘mean’ guys. As a society it’s become so much easier and more accepted to attack women especially in Hollywood.

Okay, but hear me out..what if they're dressed similarly on purpose by the stylists? they're constantly compared to each other in the media, so it might not even be Hailey's choice necessarily.

Exposing SMG is not a selena hate account lmao this account shows receipts and is exposing a lot of celebs, selena included. Showing proof doesn't mean you're a hater. I guess everyone who takes Selena's side are hailey haters then? Lmao 😂 selena playing victim while she's the one causing trouble is hilarious. This girl was exposed so many times is funny how ppl still defend her. The only wrong thing hailey did was being her and Justin's fan when she was a teen. While selena is commenting "i love u" to tiktok hate videos of the biebers. She's 32 she has to grow the F up

⭐⭐ Can I just say I adore the Mom moment and the fact you blurred your baby's face⭐⭐ Killing the Mom life XOXO

I love how a bunch of ppl tried to delude themselves into thinking they were anti-bullying by bullying someone

Just wanna say i absolutely LOVE the editing at the beginning, it reads like a comic book coming to life and makes it seem like shes being portrayed as some super villain (which i dont thinks she is one). Kudos to whoever did that!

personally i think selena is such a saint being nice with kylie and such, at some point during the early justin selena relationship i remember kendall and kylie allegedly sending justin inappropriate pics of themselves????

u should make a revenge vid on illuminaughty ♡

We have celebrities' out here committing actual crimes yet the focus is on hating and bashing these two women over something that does not concern any of us. No wonder we have admitted S.A. perpetrators out here only getting a slap on the wrist while potentially petty acts are leading to death threats... priorities people, priorities.

There's holding people accountable when they do something shitty, and then there's blowing that accountability way out of proportion and spending so much of your personal energy to be so upset at people who have no clue about your existence.

At first I couldn't believe Hailey was truly obsessed with Selena. After looking at the receipts, tho, I believe it. And my takeaway from this thing is that it's incredibly sad. Imagine being this level of invested in your bf's ex... It's must be heartbreaking. I applaud them for getting therapy but clearly there's still things not addressed. The root of the problem is obviously Justin and the fact he hasn't even defended his wife, but at the same time, it does seem to be true Hailey and the Kardashians are bullies. Both things can be true: that she's a bully and obsessed with Selena, and that she gets too much hate when the real problem is Justin.

Thank you! Your analysis of where the problem might be is exactly my thoughts as well. Why doesn't people consider him the possible "crazy maker"?

if only men who have been racist or perpetrated sexual abuse were bullied so harshly...

It's the misogyny for me... I always comes down to misogyny in these situations. The toxic men get little to no push back while the women are mercilessly dragged over coals for the smallest things. Hate this.

This whole situation is a great representation of their fanbases. Grown ass Adult Women, throwing temper tantrums on why they WANT Justin to be with SELENA. An entire generation skipped out on growing up and maturity lmao. There's a reason why a lot of guys avoided girls like that. It's so petty and miserable how they feel the need, or rather, the right to conduct what happens in Justin and Selena's lives.

Selena is also not an angel, it’s common knowledge that she pitied her fans against Hailey Bieber and dug up videos from years ago to comment on amidst the drama (the hailey bieber making a “yuck” expression while talking about Taylor swift) and then commenting “I love you” on a tiktok calling Hailey and Kylie b*tch*s.. The depths that her fans are willing to go to and the way the worship her as if they’re some kind of cult is strange… They forget that she’s not perfect and that she’s VERY shady, from harassing models that were in JB’s music videos to saying that she’s single while her and Justin were in a relationship… And then making a sob story of a song about how she had to lose him to love herself… Girl, you did this to yourself. I know I’m probably gonna get a lot of people defending selena in my replies, but please do your research, Selena was never the victim.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you brought up the fact that Justin is probably a big part of the problem with the whole situation. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he is antagonizing and encouraging Hailey to do this kind of stuff. He knows he can’t do it himself. Otherwise, he will lose everything. But I wouldn’t be shocked to find out he was using his wife that he clearly doesn’t really like as a weapon against Selena. Some people do unhinged things when it comes to exes.

Fame is a genuine brain disease.

In the copycat outfit section, Hailey wore the Balenciaga hoodie first which got me thinking, how many other outfits did she wear first?