Madness of Mary Todd Lincoln

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13 жыл бұрын

Jason Emerson, Independant Historian, speaks to an audience at Hedberg Public Library about his book The Madness of Mary Lincoln. Jason also discusses his book The Dark Days of Abraham Lincoln's Widow. This book is based on nearly two dozen manuscripts and letters written while she was incarceration in an insane asylum that were lost for 80 years. Taped April 21, 2011 by Mike Collins of JATV Media Services.

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@JaneDoe-zr4px
@JaneDoe-zr4px 5 жыл бұрын
First rule of KZfaq: the more fascinating the content, the worse the audio quality. ALWAYS.
@rosebrandenburg7
@rosebrandenburg7 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a descendant from the same lineage that she had. Cousins going back, according to my father's reasearch about my mother's side of the family. My father was an attorney and historian himself, and my mother descended from the same family Mary Todd Lincoln came from. Yes, we all grew up and lived somewhere between Lexington and Louisville Ky, where the family Mary Todd came from lived in her youth. The family has owned property in this area for years. We all have pale skin-medium skin and dark hair (kind of like she did). It runs in our family, the bipolar disorder. Some of us get it, some don't, and other's get it really, really bad. I've had another cousin that's been hospitalized on multiple occasions for her outbursts, lies, rages, and over-spending, and constant need for more and more$. I think, from what I've read, Mary Todd Lincoln liked to buy fancy things and liked to spend a lot too. That impulsivity is part of bipolar disorder.
@lesliecogan641
@lesliecogan641 Жыл бұрын
I've been profoundly receiving divine intervention since September 2020, involving a lady where I live, where all indication is she's an incarnate of Gladys Presley, but prior; Gladys, an incarnate of Mary Todd. I'm not interested at all about anything having to do with this all..some source is saying differently. There's a profound connection and parallels of myself and my ancestors to these 2 families. Where it's about me; who knows but when I read that they called on these Davenport Brothers to perform a seance to try and reach their son Willie in his grave...I finally had something concrete. I'm a Davenport. This seems to be playing out currently because of a woman here where I live, and strange physical occurrences happening at her house every time I cleaned. She looks just like Mary Todd and Gladys Presley...all 3 would look like triplets walking down the street together.
@GinaBush-zq7cj
@GinaBush-zq7cj 9 ай бұрын
Somehow we are distally related because my mother was a distant relative to Mary. It grieves us that people think she is crazy (thanks to her son Robert) Remember she lost her husband and three children. Robert didn't understand this but wanted Abraham's father to be remembered as a wonderful man. Abe was disliked by Tom because he wanted to become a lawyer and not a rail spelter. Tom was mean to him. Mary's coping skills were bad after losing her children and her husband, which embarrassed Robert.
@patriciarumsey6317
@patriciarumsey6317 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Mr. Emerson is a very captivating speaker and has a wonderful sense of humor.
@jeanhartely
@jeanhartely 7 ай бұрын
I ran into this lovely lecture right after hearing another one, wherein Robert Lincoln was portrayed as an absolute greedy blackguard. This lecture sounds more rational and believable. Thanks for it, 12 years after!
@marymoriarity2555
@marymoriarity2555 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is interesting lecture. Mrs Lincoln had lost 3 sons and had seen her husband killed. It would be enough to drive anyone crazy.
@Tornado1994
@Tornado1994 4 жыл бұрын
Mary was bipolar and even used Opium when it was legal. It was known as Paegoric Syrup back in the 1850s.
@debraday9898
@debraday9898 3 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same way. Times were hard back then too.
@alanaadams7440
@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 5 ай бұрын
@@Tornado1994 *Paregoric
@VirginiaCook-lx1qv
@VirginiaCook-lx1qv 4 жыл бұрын
She lost 3 boys and then her husband. If that happened to me I would be crazy too.
@roberttoddlincolnreenactme1074
@roberttoddlincolnreenactme1074 10 жыл бұрын
To all who say that this man is a 'fake', I have something to say to you: This amount of accuracy as presented by Mr. Emmerson, is not only true, but there are letters and documents, AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM, SUCH AS I! That is all. *steps off soapbox*
@nicoleblackwell8130
@nicoleblackwell8130 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Todd Lincoln Reenactments by Scott Well said. Emerson is awesome.
@ruthshelton1924
@ruthshelton1924 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Todd Lincoln Reenactments by Scott I agree that he has done extensive reshearch BUT- Why did he leave out all of the bottles of OPIUM that was given Mrs. Lincoln that they had told her was 'medicine'? That must have played a big part in her troubles as well.
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
Ruth Shelton wasn’t Opium considered medicine back then? Don’t we give people prone to fits of rage residues to help them relax?
@VickiNikolaidis
@VickiNikolaidis 9 жыл бұрын
Bi-polar is much more common than realized, important book I will be purchasing. If only she could have had medication!
@MizzBizz49
@MizzBizz49 9 жыл бұрын
I've read the book and highly recommend it! :)
@VirginiaCook-lx1qv
@VirginiaCook-lx1qv 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know she was by polar?
@VickiNikolaidis
@VickiNikolaidis 4 жыл бұрын
I read the book.
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 Ай бұрын
@@VirginiaCook-lx1qv No one can ever "know" for certain whether or not Mary T. Lincoln had bipolar disorder. Proper diagnosis can only occur when a person is living. However, the medical experts that Jason Emerson consulted state that all evidence indicates that Mary was bipolar from childhood. I'm no expert, but I've known quite a few people with bipolar and Mary acted very similar them.
@cheragotti54
@cheragotti54 11 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to catch Jason being interviewed on PBS just as his book was . .becoming available. I was so interested on that interview when he mentioned that Mary Lincoln had described "wires coming out of her eyes". I became very suspicious after patients came into the office complaining of something similar. Reading the book and the accident in the carriage affirmed the suspicion of migraine or closed head injury. Most likely later. Had to follow this up albiet time frame.
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
I bought his first book from the gift shop of the Lincoln Museum in Springfield. That is a great place to visit if you ever find yourself in town.
@shortgirl346
@shortgirl346 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Batavia, Illinois in a house 1 block away from the building that was Bellevue Sanitarium. My little hometown's claim to fame.
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 Ай бұрын
21:57 Stating that Robert's home was "never" in any danger is very misleading. The burn zone got within one block of his house.
@MizzBizz49
@MizzBizz49 9 жыл бұрын
I'm always seeking out videos and books depicting Mary Todd Lincoln's life. Partly because I'm an indirect descendant of hers--my maternal great grandmother was Mary Todd's first cousin. So it's a piece of my family tree. The other piece of this is that Mary Todd Lincoln was a pioneer in her day and was able to enact new legislation that extended a pension fund for ex-president's widows.
@GinaBush-gb6tk
@GinaBush-gb6tk 5 жыл бұрын
I too am a direct descendant of Mary Todd Lincoln. She was my Grandmothers great grandmother.my family often talked of how Robert certainly wasn't supportive of her. He was worried about his inheritance. Another sad issue was the fact Robert wanted his Grandfather's reputation to be remembered with honor and he was very mean to Abraham Lincoln. Tom Lincoln was ashamed his son chose intellect over manual labor.
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
Another Sullivan isn’t it sad that the grandfather had no idea who his son would become
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 5 ай бұрын
@@GinaBush-gb6tk You cannot be a "direct" descendent. That line died off in 1985.
@peterwinkler3570
@peterwinkler3570 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! But damn, there were a lot of "questions" that were really soapbox speeches.
@CanadianMonarchist
@CanadianMonarchist 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who goes to public lectures a lot, that's frequently the case in the question and answer period.
@melissadawson4668
@melissadawson4668 5 жыл бұрын
So, you say that there were no transcripts, but that is OK because the news papers covered the trial extensively, yet you are still unsure if Mary testified or not? The papers could not have covered the trial well at all, if it is still unsure from them if the main subject testified or not.
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
Melissa Dawson good point there
@GWozzie3
@GWozzie3 8 жыл бұрын
I am auditioning to play Mary Todd Lincoln in a film tomorrow, so thank you for posting this. It has been valuable research. Gx
@shannonderenzo9251
@shannonderenzo9251 3 жыл бұрын
I can see you're featured in the Smithsonian Channels First Ladies: Revealed. Congrats on getting the part. You did a good job. What did you think of Sally Field's portrayal in Steven Spielberg's Lincoln? And who was the chick who played Jackie Kennedy in the First Ladies: Revealed Documentary?
@GWozzie3
@GWozzie3 3 жыл бұрын
@@shannonderenzo9251 Thank you so much. She was such a special character to play. I watched Sally Field, but felt that she played her very emotional. Although it was suggested that she might be bi-polar in real life and was very emotive, our director wanted to downplay that possible side and show her humanity. Frankly, I feel with all that she went through that that could have driven anyone quite insane. My apologies as we filmed the series separately and I did not meet the actor who played Jackie Kennedy and don't know her name. I've just checked on imdb but it's not listed there either. ​ @Shannon DeRenzo Thank you so much. She was such a special character to play. I watched Sally Field, but felt that she played her very emotional. Although it was suggested that she might be bi-polar in real life and was very emotive, our director wanted to downplay that possible side and show her humanity. Frankly, I feel with all that she went through that that could have driven anyone quite insane. My apologies as we filmed the series separately and I did not meet the actor who played Jackie Kennedy and don't know her name. I've just checked on imdb but it's not listed there either.
@shannonderenzo9251
@shannonderenzo9251 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your response. And you're welcome for my compliment. You're right that Sally Field's portrayal was very emotional. And I didn't know that you and the actress who played Jackie Kennedy were filmed separately. I just learned something new. And I don't see her name on IMDB either.
@patriciajump9511
@patriciajump9511 3 ай бұрын
She sounds like she was bipolar, but may have also been Bipolar I, not just Bipolar II, because of her delusions. Doctors told her son she might conceivably jump from a window due to falsely believing the place was on fire. Looking at it that way, she could be considered a danger to self. Severity of her symptoms probably was not consistent all her life.
@Bullshotinbutt
@Bullshotinbutt 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this...I just finished streaming the PBS Lincoln two parter then found this:) Listening to both made my afternoon
@parkviewmo
@parkviewmo 7 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating! I am going to find the book! Thank you for posting!
@deeannemason7003
@deeannemason7003 Жыл бұрын
A diagnosis of chronic multisystem pernicious anemia would clarify the conduct of Mary Lincoln as First Lady and widow, and illuminate challenges faced by her husband, President Abraham Lincoln. National Institute of Health.
@NJG0516
@NJG0516 11 жыл бұрын
This video was very interesting. Thank you for uploading it.
@judyholiday653
@judyholiday653 9 жыл бұрын
If he was so put off by having to deal with her then he should have cut off all ties and gave her the control of her money back ..It was her money and I cannot see that it was any of his business how she spent it.He just comes across as someone only being worried about his own reputation and that was why he kept harassing his poor mother..I know he gave her all control back but he should not have put her into that mental hospital what a blow to her already broken soul shame on him..
@GinaBush-gb6tk
@GinaBush-gb6tk 5 жыл бұрын
You are right on about Robert.
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
Hindsight being 20/20 I wonder if he let her spend herself into poverty and untimely death would armchair historians be nitpicking and defending him?
@sylviahaas6466
@sylviahaas6466 3 жыл бұрын
She was insane: if you read the book of letters, it is undeniable. Can’t remember who wrote the book. It is cream colored and lettered in the color gold. But there are letters to old generals and people she hadn’t seen in years. She begged for money and different things. And went off about strange things.
@Lorieellesh
@Lorieellesh 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting talk!! Would like to read his books.
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 8 жыл бұрын
OMG, I'm from Burtonsville, MD (right next to Silver Spring; I went to school in Silver Spring and my best friends were born in Silver Spring)!! Not that that means anything to you, but it makes me super excited! :)
@martinham1409
@martinham1409 3 жыл бұрын
You should read the tome he wrote on Robert Todd Lincoln. The only person more saintly than Robert was his Father. Funny how history like numbers can be manipulated to suit a purpose.
@idontgiveafaboutyou
@idontgiveafaboutyou 8 жыл бұрын
Such a strong and smart woman
@user-qh5uu8gs8m
@user-qh5uu8gs8m 10 ай бұрын
What is insanity and what is dealing with genetic and situational mental illness in a time where mental health was considered quackery?
@kristinj1981
@kristinj1981 12 жыл бұрын
I lived right down the street from the Mary Todd house in Lexington, Ky for several years, and I've been really curious about this. It seems as if Wisconsin is so very far away.
@cyrix01
@cyrix01 11 жыл бұрын
Hi. What jazz tune plays during the start & finish of this video? Sounds great!
@cheragotti54
@cheragotti54 12 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know how Mr Krypton made the diagnosis of syphilis in the Lincoln family. As far as calling Mr Lincoln" the most deranged lunatic in history", I think you might find that quite a number of our statesmen might fall into that same catagory even today.Hasn't America made war on peaceful nations at different times in our countries' life?
@brendaharrington2030
@brendaharrington2030 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the book. In Springfield Illinois.
@futurwerx
@futurwerx 11 жыл бұрын
It's from a royalty free music collection.
@Charles-fw8bv
@Charles-fw8bv 2 жыл бұрын
Identification Card and social security number?
@dawnten
@dawnten 12 жыл бұрын
Really? Where did you learn this from?
@annprince5298
@annprince5298 8 жыл бұрын
Here is a book by an America author ""I would still be drowned in tears about Abraham Lincoln and wife,s interest in Spiritualism. I was just listening to yt and heard of the book it s about Maury and Her husband's interest in Spiritualism. I am .a Spiritualist but am fascinated by all the important people who dipped their toes into this
@GWozzie3
@GWozzie3 8 жыл бұрын
Me too 😃 Gx
@newyardleysinclair9960
@newyardleysinclair9960 3 ай бұрын
She always reminded me of Queen Victoria, who also seemed like a terrible person in her later years
@Lets_Overthrow_Satan
@Lets_Overthrow_Satan 2 жыл бұрын
General Grant set her straight: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8p5h5Nn1devqKM.html
@GinaBush-zq7cj
@GinaBush-zq7cj 9 ай бұрын
Good way to get your books sold
@tinaLcormany8111
@tinaLcormany8111 4 ай бұрын
She had a native american curse on her
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 6 ай бұрын
This audio is terrible!
@catherineciferni1145
@catherineciferni1145 7 жыл бұрын
I don't object to his assertion--I do no like is casual use of language. We say mental illness, not insane --and his determination of symptoms hearing voices, paranoia are more schizophrenia---I would have preferred a more "medically" professional terminology and a consult with a doctor, he uses language to sensationalize a medical condition.
@CanadianMonarchist
@CanadianMonarchist 5 жыл бұрын
I think he is using the terminology which was used in Mrs. Lincoln's day.
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
Saying mental illness as opposed to insane and you preferring a more medical or sanitized presentation seems to be a matter of opinion and a “pc” issue. This to me seems to be a form of mental disorder in itself.
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 4 ай бұрын
Jason Emerson did consult at least 3 psychiatric doctors. One of which wrote an essay in one of Emerson's books. The most prevalent current "diagnosis" is that MTL was bipolar with a TBI
@HayashiToshi-sn5qw
@HayashiToshi-sn5qw Жыл бұрын
Poor Mary Todd Lincoln Schizophrenia...
@marymoriarity2555
@marymoriarity2555 5 жыл бұрын
Thus man is making money in a Lincoln tragedy. His silly remarks and audience laughter makes him sound stupid. He found letters so what?? Maybe he needs mental help. Mental illness isn’t s laughing matter. Shame on him
@geminijustgemini7784
@geminijustgemini7784 4 жыл бұрын
Mary Moriarity missing letters being found that uncovers history IS a big deal. And he being a regular and seemingly jovial guy as opposed to a stuffy professor of history is refreshing to the presentation. This author writing about the recently uncovered mental state of the wife of Lincoln has nothing to do with the tragedy. I don’t feel he or anyone is laughing at you or mental illness.
@032319581
@032319581 6 ай бұрын
Why do people think he committed her for her money? He was a multimillionaire.
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 Ай бұрын
They think that because Jean Baker published an abomination of a book in 1987 that is filled with fabrications and untrue stories based off of non-existent and distorted sources. Robert was still decades away from being wealthy. But he was quite comfortable in 1875 at the age of 32.
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