Magnesium vs Ferro Rod: Debunking Fire-Starting Myths

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11 ай бұрын

Welcome to another episode on my channel where we explore survival and bushcraft tips and tricks. In today's video, we're debunking common myths about two popular fire-starting tools - the magnesium fire starter and the ferro rod.
From the supposed danger of magnesium fire starters to the belief that all ferro rods are the same, we're setting the record straight. Not only will we discuss these myths, but we'll also demonstrate the correct usage of these tools, showing you how they can be effectively used in a survival situation.
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@fatwoodfiresteels9961 4 күн бұрын

This is one of the best videos out there. You did a great job walking through the basics and explaining everything. And you are right, practice practice practice. If you send me a message, i will send you one of ours and see how you like it. Thanks, Jeff

@SpeirOutdoors 3 күн бұрын

Thank you

@jelkel25 11 ай бұрын

Magnesium blocks got a bad reputation when there were many cheap poor copies around. I was given one at the time and it was extremely difficult to get the things to do much of anything. Even a half decent one and they can be effective. Folks also don't take wind into account, if there's even a small breeze just scrape it onto the glue side of any kind of tape.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I like the tape idea! Next video!!

@nickcasolino8903 10 ай бұрын

I heard some Chinese scumbags were selling block of Aluminum for block of magnesium. Great tip, thanks for sharing.

@voyager667 10 ай бұрын

They still sell aluminium.

@Josh-bs4xf 10 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoorsanother way is scrape it into a peace of paper or cardboard then just fold it up in a way it doesn't fall out

@thomasmusso1147 11 ай бұрын

👍👍👍 .. Good advice. I had a Magnesium Block long before Ferro Rods became the greatest thing since bubblegum. Fortunately it is of good quality, bought before the cheap knockoffs started to flood the market. I don't use it as much as in the past, but it is still around and remains part of the team. I find that mixing the Magnesium Shaving in together with the Tinder for me, works the best. As a Boomer DOB 1950, I am very much a traditionalist. I have the Zippo, Bic, Mag Block, Ferro Rod, Magnifying Glass, Char Cloth and other I cannot recall right now .. but .. my favourite remains the humble wooden match. Why? I don't know. Perhaps having the 'Lion Match Factory' just down the road from where I lived as a youngster carved this preference indelibly into my psyche back then 😁. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..

@crazysquirrel9425 11 ай бұрын

FYI for a long while they did not sell strike anywhere matches. I found some recently in an ACE hardware store! Bought 1 box of the big ones and a 10 pack of the small ones. I do miss the red tipped ones.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

You sound like me!

@thomasmusso1147 11 ай бұрын

@@crazysquirrel9425 👍

@thomasmusso1147 11 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors 👍😊

@sosteve9113 4 ай бұрын

Exactly i have one I bought when I was a youngster,and use it sparingly because of the superior quality

@nickcasolino8903 10 ай бұрын

A ferro rod, believe or not, it carries its own Firestarter. A ferro rod is made of magnesium. If you scrape slowly or lightly your ferro rod you'll get a pile of magnesium. Then Scrape your ferro rod normally; it will create some sparks, which it will light your pile, which it will light your tinder. I got this trick from Paul Kirtley (credit where it's due)

@ilijabosnjak76 10 ай бұрын

That was a good presentation and helpful information, I will just add that when choosing ferro rod go Big and buy a decent quality one,don’t go cheap 6”x0.5”,,it will last you lifetime unless you loose it… Well you deserve Like 👍.

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

True. Thank you!

@clivedunning4317 11 ай бұрын

Great common sense video. All I can add is that coating a ferrocerium rod with Vaseline, everytime you venture into the great outdoors, will prevent it from developing corrosion, especially in saltwater environments. Happy Trails !

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Nice idea. Thanks!

@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 11 ай бұрын

Good tip. I had a ferrorod in my pocket when I walked into the ocean. It did start to degrade 😊

@clivedunning4317 11 ай бұрын

@@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 Thanks for a positive comment. I keep telling folk to do this and some think I'm pulling their leg. I always take a small tub of Vaseline in my kit when I go outdoors. Happy Trails .

@Iron-Bridge 9 ай бұрын

Superb advice. Especially since I transfer from sea expeditions to land based campsites in the same period sometimes.

@backwoodstrails 11 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation. You even covered the differences between the soft and hard ferrorods (one producing more molten balls of steel and the other producing more sparks). The original Doan tool magnesium firesteel (first produced in the early 1970's) had no issue with glue, the rod never came out of the mag block, unfortunately, he closed shop a short time back and they are hard to find now. The cheap knock-off's (like Harbor Freight) use cheap glue and the rods do come out of the block after a while. I believe Christopher Nyerges (the school of self-reliance) still has some Doan tools available so get them while you can! PJ cotton balls, dryer lint and shredded duct tape all make good man-made tinder. Natural tinder like you show or inner bark of trees or dried grasses all work well when (as you said) are dry.

@arthurleslie9669 11 ай бұрын

Since mag starters are not pure magnesium they can differ greatly depending on their composition. That’s why I prefer USA made over the Chinese versions.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Very true. But in a pinch any can work

@richjageman3976 11 ай бұрын

Chinesium tends to not be quite as good as American produced/marketed magnesium fire starters. At least from my experience, but in a pinch it is better than nothing.

@oddsavage 10 ай бұрын

Great vid! To the point and informative! Thanks.

@johnduffy6546 11 ай бұрын

Very good information and well-presented. Thank you.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you

@waterbourne9282 2 ай бұрын

Good no nonsense summary. Thanks.

@ronaldrose7593 11 ай бұрын

Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this informative video. You did a great job. Stay safe.out there. 🤗

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you

@davidgherardi7414 10 ай бұрын

Good advice about the feroe rods that are glued into the magnesium. I have a few of those. Will be buying the next ones that are separate from each other.

@cecilmadden 11 ай бұрын

I liked your information. I followed you because of your last comment.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support!!

@MeAndMyRoyalEnfield 4 ай бұрын

Great video. Thank you.

@rickkearn7100 11 ай бұрын

Hey, I never knew this about flint firestarters et al. Thanks! I subscribed.

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support

@kennethwilson8633 11 ай бұрын

Great information…Have fun stay safe.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you

@mistermac4118 11 ай бұрын

Great video, thank you! All your points are right on the money. Your right practice is king, we heat with wood and it a good day when my wife says in the morning, it was a two strike fire.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Most people watch videos and see these guys always start a fire with one strike and it don’t always happen that way.

@simongee8928 11 ай бұрын

I always use a ferro rod to light my Trangia liquid fuel stove. Main reason is that it always works and I don't have to worry about damp matches - ! 😅

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I use one to light my BBQ pit, jet burner for crawfish and fish fryer

@waterbourne9282 2 ай бұрын

Me too, way easier, especially in winter.

@johnbelmore1178 11 ай бұрын

Thanks again for sharing 😊

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Your welcome

@drewpifer6082 11 ай бұрын

Awesome channel ! Thanks

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@BBQDad463 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. Very informative. I make a habit of coating my ferro rod with beeswax after each use; otherwise, it will slowly oxidize and turn to powder.

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Mine never sits long enough to oxidize lol I use it daily

@anuvabastidanakist2437 11 ай бұрын

Before matchs and lighters were invented people carried round dry tinder and it wasnt always charcloff

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Yes they did. And did everything their power to keep it safe and dry

@darstar217 11 ай бұрын

Good info! I generally don’t carry too much of a fire kit because of the risk of wildfires where I live like you mentioned, but I do carry a ferro rod.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I usually always have a Ferro rod on hand.

@darstar217 11 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors I keep a mini one on my keychain all the time. I’ve tested it out and it works well.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

@@darstar217 I have a necklace Ferro rod I typically wear when I hit the trail. It has come in handy before. But when u know how to make fire in various situations, it don’t matter what size Ferro rod you have.

@darstar217 11 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors I don’t plan to make fire if I get lost hiking because the last thing I need in that situation is to start a wildfire and that can happen super easily depending on weather. I bring more items for shelter instead. I do carry the ferro rod just in case, though.

@lucdenolf1570 11 ай бұрын

Everybody says to carries ferrorod, nobody says to carry a waterproof blanket. I believe that above freezingpoint a blanket is more usefull and less dangeress than a fire for survival.

@chrisbundy6104 10 ай бұрын

Great video ! Just subscribed

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Thank you I really appreciate the support

@AllWeatherFirestarters Ай бұрын

Any chance of doing a product review of our Firestarter?

@awayinthewilderness4319 11 ай бұрын

Good video, man! New subscriber. 👍

@awayinthewilderness4319 11 ай бұрын

Love that you show honor to the name above all names!

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

That’s the only way!

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for your support

@jacksonteller1337 11 ай бұрын

We have been handing the magnesium firestarter to conscripts since the sixties that means anyone can use it with minor instructions. We usually have a Victorinox knife with a saw blade that is ideal for creating shavings. Unfortunately conscription ended in the 1990's and now we have trouble filling the ranks.

@conservativesniperhunter7439 11 ай бұрын

Very informative video there brother. I would love to see you find and test as many different brands of Magnesium products to see which ones burn more intense and hotter. That be a good little experiment. I don’t think anyone has made a video on different brand/types of magnesium.. Christ is King. Cheers from Australia 🍻

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you! I will look into that for the future!

@tomjeffersonwasright2288 11 ай бұрын

The commonest myth is that a big loose ferro rod is better than the very small one in a Bic lighter. Weigh up the rod and associated gear, and a Bic ferrorod is lighter. And just as a long soaked Bic ferro rod swells and fails, long immersion damages big, loose rods too. In over 70 years outdoors, I have started fires with a bow, piston, matches, ferro rods, magnifiers, magnesium, and flint. But I trust, and get fastest results, with the little ferro rod in my Bic.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I’m covering that with the next video

@mikebeall3257 10 ай бұрын

I carry a Spark lite Aviation survival fire lighter, no gas required. I also carry a 2 hole pencil sharpner, doesn't matter how wet the outside of twigs, the wood inside is dry and shavings can be crushed easily.

@cb3391 10 ай бұрын

👍 Subbed Magnesium fire starters been around a long time, started in boy scouts in the 80's still part of my kit with my ferro rod.

@SebastianSynn18252 10 ай бұрын

An excellent video. I have to ask. What is that large orange ferro rod? It looked like it had a hollow tube to use as a bellow. I will definitely be subscribing and look forward to viewing your other vids!

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

It is the prepared 4X survival torch. They have various sizes. It’s an awesome tool. Links is on my website. Www.speiroutdoors.com/links or in the bio

@believein1 7 ай бұрын

God Bless you, Brother.

@BeefT-Sq 17 күн бұрын

"God exists as a notion; An idea. But not as something metaphysically real." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@tikkidaddy 4 ай бұрын

The only way I've seen magnesium become explosive is a VERY large chunk heated with a torch until burning and then thrown into water. The reaction separates the hydrogen from the oxygen in the water and of course both gasses are highly flammable. A contained explosion is far more dangerous, but you get my point.

@genevabrown450 10 ай бұрын

Good Deal.

@RS4393 11 ай бұрын

Every one of my fire kits has a bic, ferro rod, flint n steel, fatwood, and 3 or 4 cotton balls with vaseline. In damp or wet conditions I'm gonna have a fire one way or another. Great video.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Yes indeed. I was stuck in a situation years ago where I absolutely could not start a fire. Ever since then, I’ve practiced in nearly every way

@marksherrill9337 11 ай бұрын

Good man

@MarilynStangl 10 ай бұрын

I use a fine metal file to scrap off magnesium shavings because it seems to work the best, then I put them in small air-tight pill bottles, sometimes along with cotton pads for tender! Trying to shave off filings into a pile in high winds isn't easy!

@alanrice39 11 ай бұрын

Good video,just subbed

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate the support

@EdwinDekker71 11 ай бұрын

7:29 Amen! Instant sub! Praise the Lord.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Yes indeed!! I appreciate the support!!

@BeefT-Sq 17 күн бұрын

"...supernatural events or beings are a contradiction to metaphysical reality." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@BeefT-Sq 17 күн бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors "A rational process is a moral process. You may make an error at any step of it, with nothing to protect you but your own severity, or you may try to cheat, to fake the evidence and evade the effort of the quest-but if devotion to truth is the hallmark of morality, then there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking. " -Ayn Rand-

@redhawk449 10 ай бұрын

The two most important points in this excellent video are at 7:09 and 7:30.

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

You are correct

@Nick-AngelpeodSeaxisc Ай бұрын

In a wilderness survival situation fire is essential, if you plan on hiking or camping there is nothing wrong with going well overboard with your fire starting options, I take multiple new lighters as well as a ferro rod, magnesium, cotton wool and a small tin of lighter fluid, there is absolutely no situation or weather in which I can't easily start a fire.

@clivedunning4317 10 ай бұрын

Charred punk wood , one of the best materials for catching a spark, be it ferrocerium rod or traditional firesteel.

@arctodussimus6198 4 ай бұрын

When you scrape the magnesium, you want tiny curls, not specks like sand. Using the hacksaw blade will not make curls, it will only make specks.

@bobbys4327 10 ай бұрын

Another good tinder to have is some fine steel wool that has no oil in it. It is light to carry and doesn't take a lot of spark to get going. With a mag bar it would ignite right now....

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

I did a previous video on that with a survival necklace it worked great!!

@maxlutz3674 11 ай бұрын

I always took the "works when wet" as opposed to matches. Regular matches do not fare well when they or the striker get wet. I have seen many people who could use a ferro rod to light a fire without problem. They tended to suffocate it though. Appears to be a general lack of fire building skills.

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

A lot of people do. Let it breathe

@oldcountryboy 10 ай бұрын

I have always packed a lighter I live in the Pacific Northwest We get about 7 feet of rain every year When it is raining it is like somebody standing over you with a bucket of water Without a lighter You are going to have a really hard time lighting a fire Those other methods Are cool But you should always sneak a backup lighter In your pocketThat way you are always sure to get a fire people are going to say what if it gets wetYou simply blow on it and it will dry out What if it gets brokenHave you ever tried to break a lighter It is next to impossibleBy dropping it falling downIf you fall down hard enough to break a lighter in your pocket your leg is also going to be broken I have used all 3 When you are in a life-and-death situation and you are cold you want that fire as fast as you can get it

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

The very next video I published after this was using a broken bic lighter in conjunction with magnesium to ignite a fire. I get it. Bics are the most innovative and cost effective way to start a fire in the modern era. That’s a fact. I try to always learn other methods as well but I will have 3 lighters, one in a backpack, pocket and first aid kit. Oh and bright colored as well.

@oldcountryboy 10 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors Actually the lighter was invented In 18 23 The first feral rod was invented In 19 0 3 And the first magnesium fire starter was made in 1974 So actually the lighter Is the Less modern of the 3😉😉

@carlbruschnigjr1757 10 ай бұрын

For the magnesium/ferro rod item, keep it in a small ziplock bag for long-term storage. I've had a few go bad when left loose in with my camping gear. The magnesium can be salvaged but the rod becomes useless.

@IronArmPanda 10 ай бұрын

You can scrape a Ferro rod like you do a magnesium brick and pile up some shavings for damp tinder.

@glenmo1 3 ай бұрын

Using the magnesium block Cody from dual survival replaces the scraper that comes with the block with a regular piece of broken hacksaw blade... He uses the side of the hacksaw blade to scrape the shavings and he uses the broken front part to throw the Sparks pulling back the block not the scraper holding the scraper still while using the block in a backward motion

@josephhuston7590 10 ай бұрын

A good investment is a welding striker.Light weight to carry also.

@mauriziobarbati9081 2 ай бұрын

Complimenti per il video. Magnesio + ferrorods,È Super

@jhorton1600 10 ай бұрын

Magnesium burns at 5400 deg F. That helps with damp tinder, but not totally wet tinder.

@maxiehuntsman2074 11 ай бұрын

A magnesium bar and a dead bic lighter works real good..

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Next video!

@MCk-23 11 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors great video, could you tell me out of the two which would be better for a beginner hiker?

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

@@MCk-23 get a good quality Ferro rod. The hexfire from uberleben is what I use. amzn.to/3KwoCNV I have 2 of them.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I posted the video all about using a dead Bic lighter and magnesium bar today

@MCk-23 11 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors cheers. Thanks for your time

@0dayzombies 7 ай бұрын

You all have it easy, starting a fire in Washington state west of the cascade mountains is insanely difficult anything on the ground is wet or slimy rotten wet 6 months out of the year and then the rest of the time there is a fire ban because the woods are a tinderbox.

@ianbrowne9304 10 ай бұрын

ROF LOL ; and the biggest myth is you got to have these wonder tools . So what did they do before these wonder tools hit the BS marketer ? Matches ; preferable water proof matches always got a fire going . Cigarette lighters also got a fire started . For years I carried a water proof matches in a water proof container --- never failed . Bit of gun power worked wonders also ;)

@justdoingitjim7095 10 ай бұрын

I've used and own both, but prefer to keep a US made mag block in my bug out bag. It's for emergencies for when you absolutely have to depend on it for a fire. My ferro rods are for quick daily use, when conditions are ideal! If I thought situations would dictate extended emergencies, like for years, my choice would be char and a steel! Ferro and mag wear out or get used up eventually, but your char and steel will still be working long after you're gone!

@Aethelhadas 10 ай бұрын

char cloth?

@kurtsteiner8384 11 ай бұрын

You can get spontainious combustion from magnesium alloys. We used to have to keep this material seperate while using this material. Especially if it got hot in the process.

@georgebowman1060 10 ай бұрын

👍

@andrexxxuk 6 ай бұрын

I think the biggest problem I have with any of these fero rod/magnesium type of firestarters, is that if you are prepping to take all of this stuff with you, just take a storm lighter/jet lighter, and it will light anything in pretty much any weather conditions.it’s not as though a ferro rod is traditional like a Flint and steel - it is a very modern man-made item. So just use a gas lighter.

@Guns_RedRoses 5 ай бұрын

At a certain elevation your lighter/torch lighter will not work. Carry storm proof matches and learn how to use a fero rod/magnesium firestarters. If you have a magnesium bar and some free time, make shavings and store them in a small tin or plastic container, practice in your back yard.

@citizenVader 11 ай бұрын

The scraper is just a piece of steel saw

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Yes it is

@sheepthatbleep2630 4 ай бұрын

I'm new to this, and don't know nothing about nothing. (i cannot start fire) one exception! faro-rod fire starter, first time every time, with cottonwool pad, pulled apart by hand..... every-time and it cheep as it gets . or Bic lighter!

@SpeirOutdoors 4 ай бұрын

Well then, you can’t say you know nothing! Ferro rods are always in my pack or on my person

@geek211 11 ай бұрын

I only trust the doans. The other ones have had the "sparking insert" get loose. Never had a doans come out. I have even tried to push or remove the ferr rod from a doans, and broke it is was so well secured

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

The Ferro rod will fall out of the cheap ones for sure. Had it happen to me several times

@zeldaconnection9945 10 ай бұрын

4:45 LOL juup and than telling a lighter fith a small ferro rod in it (anyway, also the modern Pietzo Lighters) will not work LOL The do. Old school one i blow out may make a few runs on my Jeans for extra drying, ready to go.

@DragonWhisper 10 ай бұрын

If i remeber correctly, then a ferro rod is also kind of a magnesium starter.. and you can also scrap of a little bit of power in order to help with the starting. so this comparison is a little missleading i think.

@f804.de.ruyter 10 ай бұрын

Magnesium burns at like 2500K so thats like 2226 ⁰C which is definitely hot enough to burn wood scrapings or feather sticks. Infact its used to set thermite aflame.

@dirtyscoundrel2013 11 ай бұрын

I carry lighters a pocket torch and matches

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I carry a lighter and Ferro rod

@bhamptonkc7 2 ай бұрын

Magnesium come into it's own in damp conditions.

@johndaniels4291 6 ай бұрын

Elemental one is flint and steal not Ferro rod

@Josh-bs4xf 10 ай бұрын

If you don't have a knife for the magnesium block or showing a kid scrape the paint off the scraper that comes with it it will work better

@bob_btw6751 9 ай бұрын

All that is well and good, but what about the actual steel you use on the ferro rod? Seems tha Stainlee steal does not work and that a high carbon steel blade works very well. And, as you must know, lots of folks have stainless steel knives, not carbon steel ones.

@andrexxxuk 6 ай бұрын

The other problem with this video - is that you are making out that the magnesium sparks are not hot enough to light natural tinder - it is actually a fero rod placed along the side of the magnesium that is making the sparks that catch the magnesium filings, that then produce a very hot fire

@SpeirOutdoors 6 ай бұрын

The video is debunking myths about both items. Which both items are viable at starting fires. Both items produce sparks upwards of 5000 degrees. But you do need a Ferro rod or other way to ignite the magnesium shavings

@robertschweppenhauser9891 10 ай бұрын

I thought they were the same thing .😅

@jeffreyrobinson3555 10 ай бұрын

I got in to living history in the 1970s. I carry and eighteenth century fire steel and iron pyrites or flint. Local chert works too. I’ve camped all over Wyoming, Utah and Colorado, Arkansas, Missouri and some of Illinois over the last fifty years. Been in wet,snow, and rough weather these almost fifty years. It’s never failed. I don’t hike a one mile sight seeing trail or thirty mile trek without one

@debbiej.2168 11 ай бұрын

Cotton balls are natural tinder.

@bobbys4327 10 ай бұрын

and work well for making gun cotton which will light even faster

@OtherThanIntendedPurpose 10 ай бұрын

in some ways, the genre of " survival videos" has done more harm than good. the things you have said here are all true, but every one of the wrong myths have been repeated by so many "survival specialists" for so long people believe them. also things like the altoid tin survival kit, and the water bottle survival kit. these things are dangerous to put out. on my channel, I end every woodscraft video with " the best gear in the world does you no good if you don't practice with THAT gear. get out in the woods, have fun, and practice"

@ashleymarie7452 10 ай бұрын

If you can't start a fire with a Harbor Freight magnesium fire starter and a decent knife under just about any circumstances, you're probably going to earn the Darwin Award anyway. The only thing you can do is LOSE IT!

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

If you practice with less than optimal you will excel with the optimal is my experience

@donaldcornley9963 11 ай бұрын

As far as magnesium goes, do not buy CHINESE buy the doans magnesium block it's second to none.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

That’s what I hear. I want to do a video with the shavings soaking wet but all the experiments I’ve done with it will not ignite

@martycooper1089 6 ай бұрын

I’m 72 years old grew up in the 50s and 60s my number one all-time favorite fire starting method is, matches. Nowadays it is, a bit lighter. If you are out, wandering around aimlessly, or not, and you do not take a big lighter with you, you’re an idiot. End of conversation.

@timhofstetter5654 10 ай бұрын

The word you're looking for is "deter", not "detour".

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Must be the accent

@timhofstetter5654 10 ай бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors That and cheap speech-to-text software. Type it yourself and it'll come out right.

@crazysquirrel9425 11 ай бұрын

Breaks out the Bic lighter....

@kokopelau6954 11 ай бұрын

Just an itty bitty fero rod with gas that burns.

@crazysquirrel9425 11 ай бұрын

@@kokopelau6954 Yep. Faster than either manual method lol

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

True

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

True

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

Usually do!

@AirstripBum 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information. Best tip in the video is to follow Jesus.

@SpeirOutdoors 10 ай бұрын

Yes indeed

@BeefT-Sq 17 күн бұрын

"It is time to tell people the unvarnished truth: to stand up for man’s mind and this earth, and against any version of mysticism or religion." -Leonard Peikoff-1986

@BeefT-Sq 17 күн бұрын

@@SpeirOutdoors " Man's mind is his basic means of survival, his only means of getting knowledge. " -Ayn Rand-

@zembalu 11 ай бұрын

With magnesium, you can't get sparks. It is just a tinder, though very hot. In the first part of your video, you did not ignite a fire with magnesium, but with the built-in ferrorod :-).

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I know that was the basis of the video

@contessa.adella 11 ай бұрын

I don’t call this “survival”….It is pre-planned outdoor vacation. Real survival is washing up on the beach of a remote island with nothing but your shirt, pants and one shoe. NOT a fire starter kit, 12 yard of para cord, a Bowie knife, tarp and puritabs. The skill you really need is making fire with just your surroundings…That would be survival! Not that the video is wrong or bad, I enjoyed watching…but if you imagine for one horrid moment, surviving a plane crash in a vast rain forest….You won’t find dry tinder, or fat wood or anything you get in most “survival” videos.

@SpeirOutdoors 11 ай бұрын

I agree with you. Survival is a situation in which the vast majority will never experience. Survival typically is a 72 hour period after some sort of accident or disaster. Once you make it through that period and become familiar with your surroundings, after that it’s just simply bushcraft.

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 10 ай бұрын

Only Rule to survival is , kill or be killed , Do or Die , Total selfishness, not easy if you have a conscience.

@BeefT-Sq 17 күн бұрын

@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 " Men can deal with each other only by means of reason." -Ayn Rand-