Mahler's 6th Symphony as a Hegelian Tragedy - Dialectics in Sonata Form
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Күн бұрынThe Dialectic of Enlightenment, as presented by Max Horkheimer and Theodor W. Adorno, has its reach also in the world of music. In this video essay, I want to explore how two composers from different points in history engaged with its concepts, from Beethoven's Eroica Symphony to Mahler's Tragic 6th, and also study what their work tells us about their respective societies.
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
3:01 - Hegel's Dialectics
7:03 - Sonata Form
13:18 - Dialectic of Enlightenment
18:50 - Finale of Mahler's 6th Symphony
1:34:47 - Mahler's Dialectics
Sources and further reading:
The analysis of the finale is based on "Mahler's Symphonic Sonatas" by Seth Monahan (Oxford University Press, 2015)
"Phenomenology of Spirit" by G. W. F. Hegel (1807)
"Beethoven: The Philosophy of Music" by T. W. Adorno (1997)
"Dialectic of Enlightenment" by M. Horkheimer and T. W. Adorno (1944)
"Notes on Hegel’s Dialectical Thinking and Beethoven’s Compositional Style" by Markus Ophälders (2018)
@Calli1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video ! Here is an outline of the finale's analysis, for those who want : 21:06 Introductory complex 31:35 Exposition 47:51 Introductory complex 59:03 Development 1:08:13 Introductory complex 1:17:08 Recapitulation 1:26:39 Coda
@merwintham6307 10 ай бұрын
this vid combines my favourite things: hegel, dialectics, sonata form and mahler. what more can I ask of the world?
@francescocroese2741 10 ай бұрын
I have no words, you simply made me weep. It's simply so better to listen to my favourite Mahler symphony with this interpretation.
@aficionao1234 4 ай бұрын
What a brilliant video, i love it. One of the best youtube videos i´ve ever seen
@JakobSpindler 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm really glad that you like it
@loganbarnes8621 10 ай бұрын
You madman, this is monumental!
@maorkoren5389 10 ай бұрын
Wow! that was amazing. This is how music should be talked about.
@JakobSpindler 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@maorkoren5389 10 ай бұрын
@@JakobSpindler Do you have more ideas for the connection between music and philosophy? It's a fascinating topic that I think didn't discussed enough, like in works of literature or cinema for example.
@JakobSpindler 10 ай бұрын
@@maorkoren5389 There are literally endless possibilities, and one could dedicate his entire carrier on only one of them, especially in the case of Hegel's dialectic. For example, I am currently interested in connecting Mahler's 7th symphony to post-modernism, specifically Derrida's deconstructive method :).
@gaydvorak7053 3 ай бұрын
“Quando a educação não é libertadora, o sonho do oprimido é ser opressor.” Freire, Paulo
@homard6174 10 ай бұрын
you are so based.
@shadmium3471 9 ай бұрын
could we have a mahler 10 analysis please? thank you
@thejokingwizard 9 ай бұрын
holy shit
@conforzo 10 ай бұрын
Worth noting here 7:45 is that Hegel ofc never used this Fichtean Triad since it presumes an a prioriness of the subject. In Hegelian philosophy the origin is always empty. The master isn't a subject in it-self which then seeks out to oppress, but rather, the master becomes a subject in the oppressing of the slave.
@JakobSpindler 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, without the slave, the master doesn't exist
@user-df3ie2cg4g 9 ай бұрын
Наш знает за диалектику
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 10 ай бұрын
21:06, a very fine analysis, thank you. But, in my opinion, you should try, not only to produce a descriptive panorama, but to combine the hegelian patterns with the emotionnal flesh in this music. This is the whole miracle of Incarnation. Going further than the only structure. Even if the structure seems very attractive in itself. Mahler is no Yahvé, he loved his wife and dreamed about her legs, and more than that ......
@JakobSpindler 10 ай бұрын
That would be the next step, yes, but the video was already way too long... 😅
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 10 ай бұрын
@@JakobSpindler Don't worry, your work was brilliant, and already very interesting !
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 10 ай бұрын
At last, when listening to music, someone who do not think to its own auditive and sterile pleasure, but who think. At last .....
@Juliusthebastard 4 ай бұрын
Dude your content needs so much more exposure. Great work, so detailed and clearly with a lot of care for your subject, much more than so many other channels.
@JakobSpindler 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@decomprecomp2703 3 ай бұрын
Hey you deleted your analysis vids of Mahler's 3rd and 9th symphony were you not happy with them? :(
@JakobSpindler 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I look at those symphonies in a completely different way than I did when I made the analyses, so I can't really stand behind them. I also wasn't happy with my writing style. But the videos are not gone, I just unlisted them, so they are still accessible under the "playlist" section of my KZfaq channel.
@decomprecomp2703 3 ай бұрын
@@JakobSpindler Fair enough, I understand the perfectionism all to well! I mainly know the videos were taken down because I've added your notes on the symphonies to my own in my Mahler scores - I have a great deal to thank you for helping me understand the forms of these monstrous symphonies. Anyway, I'm a big fan of your videos hope you bring the unlisted videos back soon!
@user-df3ie2cg4g 9 ай бұрын
Смешно что я понял что он русский по губам а не по акцендту
@conforzo 10 ай бұрын
So in the case of the sonata one must see the exposition as a pre-sublated "synthesis".
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