here in the UK you can legally ride a hired scooter, but you cant ride one you buy yourself. it's almost as if lobbyist's have paid people in the government to make it that way...

We used to have a e-scooter used in our warehouse, shared between the logistics and production manager, so they could get from one end to the other end. Unfortunately it broke and no one has replaced it. It was really useful when I still worked in IT and took it from the front of office to assist dispatch at the rear.

Take it apart!

I love EEVblogs presentations - always both informative and interesting - plus the superseriously high levels of enthusiasm in his voice - imagine he's the captain on the flight deck explaining about that exploding engine.......

Interesting, not sure how much I trust these things yet. Would love to see a more detailed look at the battery / wiring quality

Wow, I might be moving to Sydney soon, my plan was to get an e-scooter, bummer, glad I saw your video, otherwise I would have wasted money and worse.

At least there is an audible feedback on the turn signals. I hate the ones (there are many) that has the lights but not the sounds.

e-scooters kinda have a problem of being less safer than a bicycle (you just get yeeted over the bars if you had to break hard or hit a small obstacle), while also being able to be significantly faster at no effort from the driver. I've seem people zooming on those at like 40km/h on shared bike/pedestrian path, none of that looked safe. Outright ban is probably too much but even if you limit them to say 15km/h people will just go around Also do a burnout!

The reason for the bans is basically two things. First, the poor ridership - their ease of use and popularity made them a scourge on the sidewalks with many riders crashing into pedestrians and causing lots of injuries. Second, many e-scooter rental companies have been ignoring complaints about their scooters being left everywhere creating a hazard on the sidewalk for other users (especially those in wheelchairs and such because they're often carelessly littered about). It's gotten to the point there are private companies who will clean up the mess and charge the e-scooter companies for return of their littered equipment. E-bikes are a different matter as most bikes either use their own lanes or traffic lanes, so they shouldn't be running into pedestrians and causing injuries. Quite likely what will happen is regulations on how fast they can go - perhaps 20kph is too fast for sidewalks and it may get reduced.

Thought about one of these, but decoded to go with a foldable E-bike instead, fits nicely in my Model Y. Easy speed hack, in the controller configuration set the tire diameter to less than the real diameter. Thinks it needs more tire revolutions to go the set speed.

Here in my region in Spain you can use them, but you can't bring them into public transport. There were apparently multiple fires, including in the Barcelona metro, so the transport people issued a recommendation to prohibit carrying electric bikes, scooters, monocycles, etc. inside buses and trains.

7:38.... RTFM. I bought a used 100,000Km Honda Accord for the same price of that puny scooter 3 years ago and it's still running great.

In the UK, they can be ridden on streets as a lot of councils rent them out. But cannot be taken on public transport since 31/01/2023. Local = fine, commuting = no.

Mate you are ****ing crazy if you ride this without a helmet out on the road. I gained a lot of appreciation for helmets after I started riding motorcycles. It really does not take much for a permanent lights-out (like literally a few km/h).

I see what you did there with the Crocodile Dundee ref: "Now that's a knife"...

But is it available as a right-hand drive?? 😉 Edit: Bummer about the scooter ban, but not surprising. People were real asses with the rentals here in the 'States when they came out, though we still haven't banned them anywhere I know of.

Daiyve, you might have named your "low burden" DMM the Bandicoot Meter. Now, some scooter guy owns it.

Fun fact is before legalize (in Hong Kong), so many people are riding these things on the road including "deliveroo" and "food panda" deliver guys.

think its strange that retailers can sell electric scooters in NSW that are only legal to ride on Private Property. "In New South Wales it is illegal to ride an electric scooter on any road or any road related area"....

Take it apaaaat! 🔥

We have a legal cap at 250W for both e-scooters and e-bikes. Higher than that and they’re not classed as bikes anymore, but motorcycles.

I have my own e scooter, the Segway Ninebot as a personal one I bought. Here in the United States, it's up to the states to decide the rules. Here in Arkansas, these are legal with 32kmh speed limit, and just stick to using the bicycle lanes or the extreme right side of the road. I was able to ride it anywhere, even inside of buildings! No ban was mandated here yet, except nobody gives a damn, they'll overtake you recklessly sometimes.

It’s the same in the U.K. Dave. I’d love to have one for local commutes but we have the same bans and trials. It’s absolutely madness.

Aussie model? Is that handlebar at right side?

Most Sydney cops turn a blind eye if you're behaving yourself. Wear proper gear and keep off the bitumen and on the footpaths, don't do stupid stuff and you'll be ok. I'm in the St George area and never had issues. I had a segway g30 max for a year which range and power wise is compatible to that one and would definitely be a competitor. For prior owners of the G30 max this would be a nice upgrade with the suspension

I believe People will have issues with the screens cracking putting it down into fold down mode too That's pretty close to where the screen is where it's rubbing I wonder if the charger port is going to be a issue too Definite Should have went with Justible bars And hydraulic dis breaks would be a nice touch 🤔

Same thing here in Germany, not allowed to ride it without license plate, blinkers, mirrors (!) and headlights and ... and...

Self healing tyres work (i still have the nail lol). There's 2 versions as I found out (different tyres 30psi or 45psi and sticker colour different)I ended up buying a few last month JB hi-fi i paid $699 each for most of them (display or $100 + more if postage to your door & more with 2yr extended warranty so 3yr total). I've done almost 500km (30psi version although I run at 45psi because at 30 didn't self heal unless higher psi) and no issues. Ill be fitting the Apollo controller for the extra speed (40-44kmh single motor)

Same in the UK. Self owned are Illegal (unless you register them and insure). Public schemes have been very successful though (and those are far better up hill than that thing).

Don't just drive it, take it apart!

Omg I'd love to have one of those

That "bag hanger" looks more like something to bungee a shoephone for GPS navigation. My e-bike is quite a bit crappier and doesn't have quite the same range, but it was about 1/3 the cost back in 2021 at the height of the ongoing pandemic. Are these things driving inflation? Anyway, the battery management on mine seems dicky; two years in and it looks like one of the cells has gone high resistance.

Hey Dave! Why not consider an adult manual kick scooter with large wheels? Not as flashy but they are small and light, you don’t have to charge and good for your health! Stick an inflatable wheel at the front and you can bomb hills really fast too 😀 I ride mine almost everywhere and am also learning to longboard 👍

Dave are you sure you turned off your Weller Soldering Iron before you left? :)) Hopefully that´s not the reason why the lights went off :))

Hey Dave, does that mean they are gonna ban/remove all those hire e-scooters that were/are sitting around Sydney too?

I've got an electric unicycle (EUC) that I loved commuting on, but I've packed it away after hearing that other local riders were getting clapped with huge tickets. Really insulting given that the same gov't charges us a carbon tax

You can acivate zero start by pressing the power button 5 times

Yeah, the fact that they're illegal to ride in public makes them pretty useless. I read one article where they interviewed someone who got a fine, it was over $5,000, which was more than twice the cost of the scooter!

Progress on legalising e-scooters and other PMDs across Australia is being made. The state transport ministers signed off on an amendment to the Australian Road Rules (ARR) in mid-2021. Generally the states legislate their own road rules to align with the ARR. NSW had a transport minister at the time who wasn't particularly keen on progressing things in that state, maybe things have changed of late. In the mean time, Dave can come down to Victoria if he wants to test his new toy in public (at least during our extended and expanded trial).

technically a car park like that probably counts as a public road

Trust me, you don't really want one of these to go more than 25kph. Even at 25kph, you are one road defect away from breaking your neck. I took a good spill at 10mph and I was lucky...but it still took more than a month to recover from. Keep both hands on the wheel at ALL times. You won't have enough control authority when you need it otherwise.

For total kms press power button x3 quickly. Read the manual for instructions for cruise control and to remove safety take off etc

Did u work out if u can hack the speed limiter on it yet

"Illegal" doesnt seem to stop anyone with this type of thing in my area (Richmond, BC, Canada). I've even seen people writing in to media to complain about the things, police couldn't be bothered to enforce - they have better things to do. I'd rather these than the horrible two stroke engine bike things - which are even more illegal and also not enforced.

The handle-bars need to fold down parallel to the upright for carrying otherwise they poke out the side too much.

teardown when

Dumb laws were meant to be broken. Look at the number of these things getting around in the CBD and inner west as an example. I can sit in a pub on oxford street and watch these things go by all the time. Ride responsibly, at a speed suited to the conditions and wear a helmet and the cops don't bother you. I've been riding mine (emove Cruiser before and inmotion S1 now) for 2 years just fine, never had an interaction with police except one officer holding a pub door open for me to wheel it inside (no I didn't ride it home - short walk home pushing it). Edit: They want $2k for that - my inmotion S1 is built like a tank and would take that 15 degree incline, no sweat, in eco mode! $500 cheaper too.

It says on the box 25%, not degrees, which is 14 Degrees..

Pretty sure that thing is illegal in all Australian states, not just NSW because it's also 500 W, seem the manufacturer is trying to argue it's a bicycle not a foot scooter, but they forgot to sell it with one of those removable seats. But the whole e-foot-scooter (and e-bike) thing in Australia is an absolute joke and annoys me to no end. The laws here in Queensland are equally stupid and self contradicting, however here it's the other way around, the power limits for e-scooters are higher than that of bicycles, makes no sense until you realize they changed the laws when one of those e-scooter rental companies paid off the local Brisbane city council after dumping their scooters on the city footpaths. Now there's all those issues where it's legal on a state level and in Brisbane city but illegal in most other cities and towns, but who on earth is going to read that far into it? You can buy it from reputable stores so surely it's legal, right? There were also quite a few news articles back when those things first starting going mainstream and you could buy them at places like JB Hi-Fi, anyone who used it on public roads got slapped with "operating an unregistered, uninsured, unroadworthy R class motorcycle without a license", so thousands of dollars in fines and suspension of your car drivers license, this is why you sometimes see people on e-scooters fleeing from police at any cost and why some police claim they're justified in ramming people off their e-scooter. But the best part is the press photos or social media posts from politicians riding those illegal e-scooters and e-bikes trying to promote themselves only to be criticized for it and quickly delete it.

200 watt max in QLD I believe...

The small wheels are not safe unless the road surface is meticulously maintained... Which means unsafe in most areas.

👍

Definitely felt different but was great! Right in the beginning I got Project Farm vibes, "We're gonna test that!" Aussie version!

Redo the tests with a 50kg backpack. In particular when climbing the ramp... The 25km/h limit is probably to be legal in some countries that impose that limit.

The price is not right for such thing, a hipster price. The matt/dull black barber finish is everywhere right now and it is nice but I like to see some chrome or color elements to cheer it up a bit.

Is this the new mailbag format? or are you still gonna do the old ones where you open multiple mailbags in 1 video Sucks that the e-scooters are banned there, here in Sweden they are allowed if you drive on the road and not the sidewalk

Got a e-scooter from aldi segway ninebot with 20k range has disk on backwheel and uses regen braking on front where the motor is and is smooth and works well and me and my son ride it all over the place no problems with cops this is in south Australia

In germany we just buy insurance and the license plate and we're good to go.

Isn't the NSW limit 250W, so this will be banned anyways?

This electric scooter looks like the Apollo City 2022.

Scooters are one of the weirdest thing that happened recently. I last saw them when I was a kid. Then everybody only had skateboards, bmx, mountain bikes.

They chose the Bandicoot name after that other famous Bandicoot?

I'm not sure what to make of the e-scooters. They replace a faster way of getting around than walking for short distances, where a bike is not yet worth it or then can't be transported further for space reasons and jogging is too strenuous. A folding bike is usually a bit too big for public transport, especially the omnibus. However, I do not see why an electric drive must be installed. After all, such an e-scooter must also be disposed of. The problem with not only battery recycling is well known (in Germany, lithium batteries are declared as municipal waste...). For short distances, I would like to have a normal pneumatic scooter, as larger children used to play with before scooters with hard wheels appeared. Moving yourself with muscle power is also good for your health. As for speed, I think that the difference speed of different road users is the danger. An e-scooter that goes 15...25 km/h should be equated with a bicycle. A scooter is still more dangerous in the event of hazard braking, the design disadvantages have already been mentioned. As children, we squatted to brake - but that was a predictable braking and not a hazard braking. I would not want to go 20 km/h on a scooter in traffic ;-) With a folding bike with a similar folding mechanism on the handlebars, the same broke off me at a hazard braking at about 30 km/h. I do not weigh 70 kg. Try the braking but carefully ;-)

74 - I always knew he was just a lightweight.. ;P

14:20 0 Km and battery is already half empty?

Pretty cool; got a Xiaomi Pro 2 which has been very handy to get around when the car is out of action. Mind you here in the UK the restrictions are pretty silly too. The worst is no escooters to be transported on the bus or underground - just because of isolated incidents of batteries exploding.

It's a cut down version of the Apollo City 22, with a smaller battery to drop the weight under 25kg, so the Fun Police over here in WA don't steal it from you for some arbitrary weight rule.

Another consideration with these things is some of them require apps on your phone, Xiaomi, Ninebot/Segway etc Very unappealing. I would only consider the various other options like Emove etc

Wow, Congrats with NSW politicians 😮. Here in Norway, where skateboards were banned for plenty of years, up until the 2000s, e-scooters are very welcome. It is such a great way to get around. We had to ban and limit e-scooter rental businesses because it was way to many and if you had to go through Oslo at 06 in the morning, it looked like someone had gotten Bali stomach and sprayed all of downtown with scooters..

10:39 What does weight have to do with this? You're not allowed to ride an e-bike that can exclusively be propelled by a motor.

"many km's All around the carpark of course" - is that a comment on Sydney traffic i.e. one big car park. Either way, the rule sucks. Not sure what the answer is, but i would prefer to see more scooters/bikes and less cars.

Considering you can't ride it on the road, then you will be riding amongst pedestrians, 25kph is about 5 times faster than walking pace. I don't think I want a metal missile spearing down the footpath towards me at 25 or even 10 kph. Fun toy, TOY.......

Use a human powered scooter, make the world greener.

Don't crash the bandicoot!

So what if there are laws, do it in the name of science! Did anyone try to stop Dr Emmett Brown from driving a Delorian with a flux capacitor through town?

Dave seemed to have something on his mind while shooting the video, with how often he mentioned the dunny. Hope he got there in time :D

them seem cool, though would be more interesting if battery tech was better. A 500W battery pack on an e-scooter or e-bike is considered huge but it doesn't offer much real range, you're charging it every few days if you commute with it, and you'll reach 1000 battery cycles in a year or two. The spec sheet "50 km" range is laughable. it'll do 20 km at best

the connectors are called Julet / HiGo

Small, narrow wheels. High center of gravity, and very close to the front wheel to make matters worse. I wouldnt want one even if they throw it after me for free. Just buy a normal scooter. Those things will outlast any electric e-waste...... (especially the old 2T variants, not much that can go bad in those)

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

You might be writing some improved software, Dave!

take it apaaht

That front fork looks weak..

All fun and games until one of these electric scooters runs into you

I thought I recognized that. Looks like that's the Apollo City 2022, they must be selling them to this company to rebadge for the Australian market.

120kg capacity definitely not designed for sale in USA lmao

200w limit for e bikes was a thing in QLD for ever - i think they need to see personal electric transport as a green option - my guess is the loss of rego and road tax that they're miffed about

Yes this thing is banned in The Netherlands too, I do not know why, just get some certification/test done.

They could have ground these beads clean and smooth.... I'm disappointed. :)

13:13 The battery was full when you started and after 00000 km it's half full?

aint there an app for these, where you can interact with it and adjust fx things on the display..I dont have one of these, only some very old Ebike that I purchased from Bangood like 7 years back,, Mi QiBike from Xiaomi was 500 US delivered, but even back then there was an app for many of these smart vehicles. but maybe take your spectrum analyzer and see if it makes an BT or wifi signal as it would supprise me if there aint an app interaction.

not being able to securely carry it is a big fail

Just unban yourself and avoid police who serve those bureaucrats who make ancient laws.

Civil disobedience. Scooter back the streets!

@4:19 - arrrrggggg, my ears.... Don't do that again...

"we gonna test that"

Ah, one of these soon-to-be-banned suicide mobiles.

Wow, its strange to hear something is legal in Germany that is illegal in other countries. Usually its the other way around. You can either ride a hired scooter or your personal scooter. However you have to pay something like 20€/Year for an insurance if you want to use your personal scooter on public streets / bicycle lanes. Apparently a lot of accidents happen with these scooters involved (i wonder why). 25km/h is the speed limit here.

Much the same laws in Victoria.

the hanger holding it together falling away when rattled, i think thats a feature, so you dont have to bend down to undo it