PCB with Press & Peel I was making boards one day and decided to turn my camera on and whip up an impromptu video on it. how to use press and peel blue paper
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@whichcraftartstudios7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us your mistakes and how to fix them. :)
@medicinewoman5611 жыл бұрын
The ideal temperature to transfer is between 275 and 325 degrees. They make magnetic thermometers that are meant for wood stoves that work really well for this application. You stick it to the bottom of the iron, turn the iron on, adjusting, until it gets to the correct temperature and then remove the magnet (carefully, it's hot). Now you can easily iron on your transfer, knowing your at the right temp.
@KyleCarrington11 жыл бұрын
honestly, that looks no easier than just taking a page from a glossy magazine, and using that. i would say the exact same effort. and that stuff isnt cheap.
@unknownless234 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your tutorial, I had time trying and I did not leave, the PCB was not transferred correctly, but it really works as explained in the video, thank you very much :-D (Y) muchas gracias por tu tutorial, tenía rato intentando y no me salía, no se transfería correctamente el PCB, pero de verdad que funciona tal cual explicas en el video, muchas gracias :-D (Y)
@durpomak6 жыл бұрын
Your scrap of board had chips around the edge that stuck up above the surface and prevented the iron from making full contact. That's why only half the image stuck to the board on the first heat.
@harrydelange18214 жыл бұрын
I use and prefer thin non-glossy photopaper printed in the laser printer. It comes off very easily without any residues. Also there's no need for water. I use a standard cheap laminator without any mods. Pass the pcb trough it for about 10 times. I create lines with 0.2 mm with ease. I use a laser printer with colour setting and max. saturation in the 3 channels. This gives me more toner then just b/w.
@NoPlaceForTheDead4 жыл бұрын
Me too. After I ran out of my first purchase of the blue paper I started using Sweetwater catalogues and haven't gone back.
@marknewman67306 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mate, really useful. Had no success following pnp package advice. Followed your advice and voila, image on copper.
@mccunecp12 жыл бұрын
good thing you have this on here because I have a crap load of this blue transfer paper and its a pain in the ass to use I have found better luck with just plan paper lol but this stuff makes a better crisp ciruit.
@automaticprojects11 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think I'll try their system and laminator, but I'm a little wary since the PnP blue sheet was such a bust for me. I was thinking of getting a CNC mill and doing isolation milling, but I recently heard from a CNC expert that often produces crappy results too, and that etching usually works better! Ugh. Maybe the Datak photo method really is the best option for one-off hobby boards.
@RestorationsFOD4 жыл бұрын
I really think that smudge happed at the beginning where you moved the paper after laying it down on the hot board. Water shouldn’t affect the toner at all as it is essentially plastic. Thanks for the info though
@joesmoe7111 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@KyleCarrington11 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply. what do you mean by laminator method??? i have found i need to iron "the heck out of it", so to speak, or risk having missing specs. in fact, ive found that it helps to do two additional things: 1. poke tiny holes in the transfer outside of the traces to let hot air and moisture escape, this make removal easier. 2. preheat the copper clad first for 1 min with the iron, then lay the decal down
@SuperHypnoman12 жыл бұрын
Dont forget to mention not to use a inkjet printer for the printouts on the PnP sheets, use a laser printer on the highest black and white settings or print it out on white paper on the highest black and white settings and put the PnP sheets in a photocopier and print out that way... :)
@rotorway1337 жыл бұрын
Good video. THX...but I tried 2 times and it just did not come out good. I think my traces are way too tiny and too close together to give a good result. Probably works good with big traces and simple boards. Going to try the photosensitive dry film method next
@mistyjackson57125 жыл бұрын
I don't know what this is, or why I should make one, but you have a really soothing voice. I could listen to you talk all day. Have you though about doing ASMR videos?
@automaticprojects11 жыл бұрын
I would use ferric chloride, but didn't bother. I could tell after each ironing stage that in the best cases, only about 80% of the circuit had transferred, so there was no reason to try etching. Maybe my iron just can't get hot enough or can't distribute heat evenly enough. I don't have a laminator, but unless that works perfectly every time, I think I'll try to get a CNC mill and make PCBs that way. (The photo method works fine, but is a hassle with darkroom and extra chemical step.)
@DJJAW11 Жыл бұрын
... You must have a laser printer thorough,granted ?.
@KyleCarrington11 жыл бұрын
That looks thick enough to destroy my laser printer.
@automaticprojects11 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of PCBfx but the product they sell looks intriguing. So if I buy an H-220 laminator then my four remaining press-n-peel blue sheets won't be so worthless? Their website says I'm much better off with their thinner transfer sheets and thinner copper boards. Have you used their system, and if so, how do you like it? Or do you use that laminator with the blue sheets or just glossy photo paper?
@AronGriffiths-nw8lm9 ай бұрын
Does this work on plastic?
@MrVogman369711 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use a laser printer to print the circuit onto the blue paper or can i get away with using a normal inkjet?
@automaticprojects11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but has anyone gotten good results with PnP? I tried ten times, using the method Techniks recommends (not pre-heating the board, but heating the film for anywhere from 90 seconds to four minutes). I also tried your method of pre-heating the board and then only applying the film for 30-60 seconds. It never transferred enough detail to be useable, even with my iron at highest setting (325) and trying to fill in with a sharpie. The photo-sensitized boards seem much better.
@0ddba1l3 жыл бұрын
is this for use with laser printers or ink jet?
@StalkerClubMinsk11 жыл бұрын
I can't see the difference between this blue transfer paper and low priced gloss photo paper that I use for making PCB
@tonyk6802 жыл бұрын
can you please tell me where you bought it from????
@NoPlaceForTheDead2 жыл бұрын
www.techniks.com/
@AmarFeraget11 жыл бұрын
what paper is that
@Munky3328 жыл бұрын
I need to press and peel some font to etch aluminum, whats the easiest/cheapest way to do this? its fairly small font, like 1/16th to 4mm font.
@NoPlaceForTheDead8 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Ive never done aluminum. I imagine it's not much different. Look around in here to see if you find anything good. www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/MarkMs-Gallery/album24/?g2_page=1 If you don't find what you need there, go log into the madbeapedals.com forum and ask. They'll help.
@Munky3328 жыл бұрын
I guess my main question is, how do i make the transfer labels easy/quick? really i just need the labels i know the basics of how to etch, just need a way to outline.
@franekjebanek11095 жыл бұрын
6:12 mr garrison
@jnkmal95194 жыл бұрын
haha shut up
@joesmoe7111 жыл бұрын
What temperature do you set the iron for?
@1990DomDom9 жыл бұрын
what program were you using to make this.. and how did you get multiples of circuits on one sheet I use eagle cad and just cant figure it out
@NoPlaceForTheDead8 жыл бұрын
+Täuschung hey man. Sorry I didn't see your question before. What I do first is run a few test prints on normal paper to get the size of the circuit correct. Then I do it the crappy way to get a bunch of circuits on one sheet. I do a "print screen" capture and save it as a picture. then I past that picture into word and crop it down to just the circuit. Then I copy and paste it over and over again. Then do another test print on normal paper. If it looks good, I print on the expensive fancy blue paper.
@NoPlaceForTheDead8 жыл бұрын
+Täuschung I use Diptrace now. But I think that circuit was something I pulled off Madbean.
@sweetguy197629 жыл бұрын
NoPlaceForTheDead when I print out my circuit how do I no what size the circuit is going to be?
@NoPlaceForTheDead9 жыл бұрын
Owen Chase I'm not sure I understand your question. The size of your circuit is whatever size you print out.
@sweetguy197629 жыл бұрын
***** o ok, so the size i want is in my printer settings?
@NoPlaceForTheDead9 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. If you designed your own circuit (like in Eaglo or Diptrace) then you can measure out the dimensions of the circuit in that program. Then you know to print the circuit out at those measurements. If you didn't design the circuit, then most people who provide DIY circuits will have it indicated in the documentation for said circuit. Either way, once you get the dimensions of the circuit, make sure to set it up to print that size on your printer. May print a few tests on normal paper first to make sure you have the right settings.
@sweetguy197629 жыл бұрын
***** ok thanks ya right now im using express pcb.
@sweetguy197629 жыл бұрын
***** soldering wires from component to component is a pain in the ass, im so done with it.
@mccunecp12 жыл бұрын
I aways keep melting the dam plastic lol
@dm.20234 жыл бұрын
That's the shits for the cost and shipping of those sheets. I expected better
@christopherstaton16455 жыл бұрын
Specifically, what paper is this? I have had no luck finding it on amazon.
@NoPlaceForTheDead5 жыл бұрын
www.techniks.com/
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