Grab a pack and get more technical details here: www.woodworkerssource.com/melamine/34-premium-poplar-hardwood-ply-core-white-melamine-pack.html
@skigglystars95257 ай бұрын
Count on Mark to inform and teach the woodworking community. The best support on the net. Love the way he delivers the information.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
I appreciate that thanks!
@Rainsy2197 ай бұрын
I wish he would produce more content. Friggin love his stuff!
@Megamailh7 ай бұрын
Just found him and as a former carpentry instructor, loves his approach
@marvinbrickhouse91227 ай бұрын
My dad used to bring scraps of this same product home from the boat factory in the 70s back then it was white on one side wood grain picture on the other side and solid core no mdf core. They built the cabins out with it. He always called it Marine grade and it was awesome to work with very hard flat and durable. Can’t wait to find it available again.
@artysanmobile7 ай бұрын
Your daughter’s desk turned out, as she might say, AWESOME!
@johndoe60327 ай бұрын
Good info. The big downside other than it being a lot more expensive is that you lose the stability of particleboard. You can usually rely on it always being dead flat, but you can’t with plywood. Also, I cut melamine with my normal crosscut blade or miter saw and get zero chip out. Good quality blades make a huge difference.
@noahkatz96167 ай бұрын
I'd guess that the loss of stability is minimal because the melamine blocks moisture absorption on the faces, and any absorption on unfinished edges is more or less symmetric through the depth. Still would be good to test though.
@michaelmaas55447 ай бұрын
This is a high quality 8 ply, I’ve had zero issues with it being dead flat.
@jeremyprovonsil78866 ай бұрын
Not to mention plywood is almost exclusively cross-laminated, hence the typical inherent stability of nicer plywoods.
@johndoe60326 ай бұрын
@@jeremyprovonsil7886 Even good baltic birch I would get back before the pandemic would be prone to some cupping. You have to spend a lot to get plywood that won't cup at least some, and most will cup a lot. Given the price of this plywood with a melamine top layer I have to assume it's not the best quality. Just saying it you need dead flat, this may not be the best option. The particle board stuff can be dead flat, very cheap, and very strong and sturdy as long as it's used for stationary builds like cabinets, table tops, etc. In the example he used with his kid's desk, it was actually a waste to use it on that when it's just for a stationary desk top that was edged with a hardwood anyway. It would have been much cheaper for him to use the particle board stuff and you would never know the difference.
@skippylippy5477 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark. You are SPOT ON! I have a bunch of this material and it's everything you say it is. I love what you can do with this!
@bigdaddio19597 ай бұрын
I built an library shelving for a private school out of plywood core melamine. Great part for the school is that it cleans easily.
@JonDunnmusician6 ай бұрын
It's a great product thank you Mark
@JustinShaedo7 ай бұрын
In Australia there's a version of this TFL-plywood (black) sold for cement forms. It's amazing for woodworking, and the cire is typically great quality.
@Rainsy2197 ай бұрын
I wish you would produce more content. Love what you provide! Nonetheless, when i see an upload i watch it immediately. Thank you for the great content.
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Working on it!
@james_8606 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark…. Love the desk and all the good information.
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kailuasurfing7 ай бұрын
Wow. I want some and I don’t even have a project to use it on!
@vinceearl42407 ай бұрын
You didn't mention price, which is important when building a project. From your website, it looks like about a 10% price difference, depending on size/quantity. Not a huge difference for a single project, and IMO worth it if the price difference isn't make or break for whether you can afford the material at all, but still something I'd have expected from one of your videos. Even mentioning that it's a new(ish) product and currently more expensive (I'm talking base price, not introductory sales price), but it's possible it could become cheaper over time, would have been nice.
@timpurcell27177 ай бұрын
Thanx for the tip. What a beautiful desk!
@jimdcushman7 ай бұрын
Definitely unaware before this video. Great production as always and I'm already thinking of projects I could put together with this stuff.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Same, once I found it I started planning a bunch of new shop upgrades
@matthaffner99207 ай бұрын
Love it! I’ve been making my own in a sense for jigs and shop furniture by laminating my preferred Formica to Baltic birch (that I always get from Woodworkers Source) but that takes time. This will be a huge time saver for me!!
@Ron-FabandBuild7 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark. This is absolutely a game changer in using melamine. It's about time. This will make things so much better in all the applications you mentioned. Thanks again.
@woodworkerchris19037 ай бұрын
I had no clue this existed - I'll keep it in mind next time I place an order on your site!
@4legdfishman7 ай бұрын
Definitely going to order some of this for a project I'm working on right now! Thanks for the great info!
@yossiyaari37607 ай бұрын
Laminated plywood is very common where I live. And I have been working with it for years. (as a home owner, not a contractor) While I agree it's superior to laminated particle board, I think some of the advantages are overstated. a) I find that it chips when it's cut. Not as much as the particle board, especially because it usually has thicker laminate. b) you cant glue laminated ply to laminated ply, because much of the glue area will have laminate on it. You would have to cut the laminate off at the glue area for that.
@peternicholsonu60907 ай бұрын
Am building a camper trailer pod to sit over (not on top) of 4’x6’ box trailer. Used the melamine ply for the inside surface. Outside I avoided fibreglass and went for Titebonded calico for waterseal then a denim outer soaked in a “polymer”. Am old and retired just messin about....will make a great coffee vendor kiosk.
@sawdustadikt9797 ай бұрын
I seen this stuff on a woodworking KZfaq channel over in I think Northern Europe several years ago. If that stuff is available in the US now I’ll look it up again. Thanks for making the video to let us know, the desk came out awesome!
@Zzrdemon66337 ай бұрын
Plain 3/4 plywood in canada is 110$ a sheet, 3/4 melamine is 60$, I wonder how much this stuff is if you can eve find it! Pvc sheet is triple here too
@henrysara77167 ай бұрын
Thank you, great suggestion to use for.
@ourv96036 ай бұрын
When 3/4 plywood hit $80 at Home Depot I used melamine for my cabinet/counter/workbench project. It worked great, but, DANG! is it HEAVY!! I even ironed on white plastic over the end grain. Nice stuff, holds wood screws great, just take a buddy with you to pick it up. !
@sidicer337 ай бұрын
I just bought melamine particle board 2 weeks ago and built my wife two crafting tables! If I only knew Obi-Wan this existed!
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Dang it! Should have got this one out two weeks ago!
@DaKeCat-KunLunTooth5 ай бұрын
This video is very good. If you use the Kunlun tooth saw blade we developed, you can achieve higher results. The Kunlun tooth can make the upper and lower sides without chipping, bursting, or cracking.
@qfudgedoggy7 ай бұрын
This looks great! Love it. Id use it for tons of things if it were available to me. Melamine with particle board core=stuff that I dont want to ever bring into my shop. Melamine and MDF on the other hand would have my attention.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
We'll ship it right to your door
@dwb4687 ай бұрын
It sounds like a winner!
@petercyr7 ай бұрын
Convenient product, and much much better than particle board. This isn't Ikea stuff right? lol. I've also used Formica on MDF for certain shop surfaces. Like for a workbench where you want some heft, you can grab either one sheet of 3/4" MDF or laminate 2 sheets for even more heft and then glue on a sheet of Formica. I'm not sure how much difference there is in durability and thickness between Formica and the material that comes on these boards. All I know is a sheet of Formica on its own costs more than an 8x4 sheet of MDF or birch ply. So more expensive and less convenient but you can get any color and might be a thicker material.
@dkquick724 ай бұрын
Need to make a cross cut sled and a couple jigs. Looks like a trip to the Tempe store is in my near future!
@dedalliance17 ай бұрын
Honestly I think this would be a good candidate for making reptile enclosures especially if the cores are or were made with water resistant plys just because of the humidity, but either way the plywood core would be better than the press wood.
@VoeltnerWoodworking7 ай бұрын
I agree. Love this stuff.
@sdirose6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Just ordered some for a Mitre Saw station top I'm building. Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Thx for the order, sincerely appreciate it
@davidathay57937 ай бұрын
Wish I could find this in Southern California
@fritz43457 ай бұрын
That's a really nice desk.
@keithf52366 ай бұрын
so beside your site with the link, where else can this stuff be found in large 4x8 sheets?
@hansangb7 ай бұрын
Thanks for that! I would make a great plane sled! Ordered a bunch of cherry, mahogany, and walnut from you guys and it's been great!
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Right on! I made a new sled for my plane too 👏
@SawdustmakerLori7 ай бұрын
I'll definitely pick up a sheet next time I'm at your store! I've used the melamine with the particle board core and it's aweful. This looks like it would be great for jigs and garage cabinets. Thanks for the tips on using it!
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
It'll definitely be worth grabbing a couple of pieces next time you are down. Hope you are doing well Lori! - Corey
@jimrosson67027 ай бұрын
Great video as always Mark. Thanks for sharing didn’t know about this definitely going to check it out looking into building a workbench think this would be great for some of that build. Wish you guys had a story in Denver.
@MikeBramm7 ай бұрын
Edge banding should stick to the plywood better than the particle board too.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Good point
@CrimeVid6 ай бұрын
Great material if the laminate is really good and the core is multi leaf plywood. I have not seen any for years although it was common thirty years + ago. Always break the edges on this stuff . It can cut you like a knife.
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
agreed
@chriskelvin2486 ай бұрын
So many questions about this product: 1) what is the “hardwood” wood species of the core? Birch? Baltic Birch? Other? 2) do you make it, or distribute it? 3) if you only distribute this, what is the country of origin? 4) is the plywood glue exterior grade? 5) is this just another name for phenolic plywood, or is this truly melamine plywood 6) this is more of a comment- if this is truly just plywood with a virtually identical melamine-type skin, logic would dictate that because cutting MDF core melamine without a scoring saw produces chipout and cutting plywood core melamine without a scoring saw does not produce chipout, then the core of the melamine board is the real factor for chipout. Perhaps an even more economical and high quality sheet good would be an MDF core with an outer skin of one plywood ply faced with melamine. Idk if this is technically feasible, I’m not a wood product engineer. But if it is, then we get an even more economical sheet with superior workability and also could come in thicker sizes for counters, tables and other furniture.
@brucemartin84357 ай бұрын
Moved here in south Italy and is called multi strada and is wonderful stuff. 🇨🇦🇮🇹
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Love it!!!!
@SeanLake3D7 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark. Gorgeous desk.
@davidmccool24587 ай бұрын
Wonder if it would work well for a Murphy bed?
@ChuckReynolds7 ай бұрын
Excellent! I'm a noob and learning... this is great; didn't even know this existed? And I'm in Phx so probably see you guys soon for some of this.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Awesome, can't wait to see you
@zephyr14087 ай бұрын
I use PL 375 to join Melamine with a trim screw.
@vulgarwoodworks7 ай бұрын
Those splintered edges were always the main drawback for using traditional melamine. Those splintered edges slice the hell outta your fingers
@bosse6417 ай бұрын
Looks much better.
@sinsofvorador7 ай бұрын
I'd really like to try some of that. To bad the shipping would be outrageous Edit: well color me surprised. Free shipping to my door. Nice.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
You better believe it!
@rb-ex6 ай бұрын
u sold me. and i do like that desk frame
@cerebralvision7 ай бұрын
This is amazing. I might use this for a media center wall so that I don't have to paint the interior of the carcass.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
That's the spirit! 👍
@thehawkc7 ай бұрын
Game changer. Great information. Thanks
@FrankC766 ай бұрын
It would be great if they made this in different colors. It would make making simple furniture, like a child's bookshelf or craft table, very easy without the finishing chore.
@Andy.H.H.7 ай бұрын
Where can we purchase 4 ft x 8 ft sheets? Also, how does the cost compare to 4x8 melamine? HD sells the 3/4 inch 4x8 ft melamine for $44. Your site has pieces (that don't add up to a 4x8 sheet for $129 or more (depending on the size chosen). Is it really worth triple (or more) the cost of standard melamine? Inquiring minds want to know! 😂
@Psychlist19727 ай бұрын
This is awesome, except you used the same kind of void-filled plywood (I see lots of voids in this video) that you get at the big box stores. Experience shows that stuff potato chips like mad, and the voids have been a real problem for me in the past. :( Any chance of you all doing another shot at this using a higher quality plywood?
@danielgraytube7 ай бұрын
Uncle Mark, your job is really cool! -Penny
@alans67677 ай бұрын
Always like your viideos. Seems like thtt would be good for a cross cut sled.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Definitely
@aravenstale8247 ай бұрын
Great info .
@winstonmatthews68157 ай бұрын
Very cool.
@PoodlePuncher7 ай бұрын
Stuffs great, If you can find it... I can't even get plain Baltic birch within 100 miles of me.
@Papa-hs6yg6 ай бұрын
wow thank you for introducing me to this. never heard of it before. is it in the big box stores? Also I like your presentation. Hope you're the guy I see on WWS vids. Subscribing.
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Thx for the sub! I am the guy in the vids. But if you want to buy this at a big box store instead of supporting WWS, I have absolutely failed FFS *throws phone*
@UncleKrusty687 ай бұрын
I wish they sold this closer to me and in standard 4x8 sheets.
@johndavies67696 ай бұрын
I would love to use this but none of the timber merchants in the UK stock it and a full sheet of 18mm is 243 US dollars here in the uk. I just looked it up.
@elkhunter92447 ай бұрын
Not having to deal with chip out when cutting is enough of a reason for me!
@rndmvideoz7 ай бұрын
Honestly desk looks good
@pierrebourassa23367 ай бұрын
As usual on this channel, fantastic video. Too bad we can’t get your stuff in Canada :-(
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Maybe one day!
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Maybe one day!
@gregorykrum60077 ай бұрын
Mark, this really looks like a better alternative sheet product for different applications pending the desired end look one is after. Your desk looks great and is a perfect for your daughter. I could see this being a great drawer box material as well and would look cool with dove-tailed joinery as long as the ply core voids are minimal at most. What are your thoughts on thickness consistency across the sheet? Industry wide, shops that use CNC routers are cautious about using ply-core materials since thickness variations can create havoc pending the sheet mfr source and species of ply material and is one reason mdf and PB cores are still the mainstay. This almost appears to be a Baltic Birch ply core from what I can tell from the video. Thoughts?
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Totally understood about CNC concerns. The core plys will have some overlaps, it's not quiiiite as pristine as Baltic birch. But close.
@JeffDM6 ай бұрын
I wish I knew about this. I need to figure out where I want to use it. I have two of the particle core melamine sheets.
@wameier847 ай бұрын
Man i gotta find some of this! Ive been using melanine for alot of surfaces lately as we are a spill and scratch prone family, and i would love something a little easier to work with!
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
We've got it and ship right to you
@RichardRecupero7 ай бұрын
This is sick
@TeamProsperity6 ай бұрын
yeah awesome but can’t find it anywhere Lowes or Home Depot doesn’t carry it?
@ksv05096 ай бұрын
Do you have the plans for the desk? Looks amazing!
@FitzCrafter6 ай бұрын
This would be great but its extremely hard to source any of it in my area.
@chadmayer85627 ай бұрын
Please do some of this in black
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Working on it
@constantinosschinas45037 ай бұрын
"She is a teenager, she is going to spill drinks" - Continues to put AC power outlets flush with the desk.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
That'll teach her . . .
@dananderson98367 ай бұрын
Any chance you could provide more info on dimensions and manner of construction for your daughter’s great desk? Thanks, Dan
@timmoore72586 ай бұрын
Thanks fpr sharing. Ill definately be looking at this . How does this compare to birch plywood for cabinets
@danielgraytube7 ай бұрын
Beautiful desk.
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@JohnnyCashavetes6 ай бұрын
Will different color melamine become an option in the future?
@bobs47186 ай бұрын
Interesting product, I may take a look at it. QUESTION: I see you have the Delta duct collector, I have the same model and like it. Have you ever needed to get a new pleated filter for it? I want to get a spare and can’t find one anywhere! Thanks!
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
This one is actually a Laguna. Haven’t needed to replace the filter yet though
@emptyhooks7 ай бұрын
I like this style of video - shows benefits vs alternatives and shows real uses. Wondering if there are any plans to offer 4x8 sheets even if that means packing and shipping fees. And will there ever be 1/2" | 12mm available? Other colors?
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately can't ship full sheets, you'd have to buy 15 or more sheets just for the shipping to be equal to the material 😥
@rogermccaslin59637 ай бұрын
I've been using particle board cored melamine since the early 90's. I used to swing a full sheet of 3/4" up on the table saw with no problems. Now that I'm getting a little older, that stuff has gotten much heavier (gotta weigh 200-300 lbs per sheet by now😁). The weight savings might make a full sheet manageable again. I do have one question. Will the iron on melamine edge banding work with this?
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Yes, it'll work great
@rogermccaslin59637 ай бұрын
@@WoodworkersSourcecom Thanks
@Mainbusfail7 ай бұрын
you can vinyl wrap this outer shell with textured vinyl like realistic wood grains, carbon fiber, leather / suedes - faux reptile skins etc etc. or just paint it. whatever.
@kennethwallace51687 ай бұрын
Hopefully it's glued with a water resistant glue..waterproof would be better. I had some 7 ply no void "edge ply" brand underlayment that was glued with eco- friendly glue(non- off gasing) the new concern. And it delaminated 20 minutes into a 3 hour boil test(standard for waterproof). Nice wood, crappy glue. My shop is not temp controlled so it matters.
@stephenrees4387 ай бұрын
When I search for this in my market, what do I search for?
@prairiefinish6 ай бұрын
Swell....more products I can't afford. Can't even afford regular HomeD plywood
@chucksmart6 ай бұрын
Can you edge band this product, and how does it work if you apply wood glue to an edge of the wood on one surface and the melamine on the other edge, and can this be painted? Thanks so much
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
The wood glue combo works fine, back it up with a 18 ga brad if you’re really concerned. You can actually paint it, but you should prime it.
@dfs79797 ай бұрын
Neat product but I don’t find melamine durable enough for high touch surfaces
@Wooddust66 ай бұрын
Except you didn't talk about the number one reason folks use melamine imo. Is Cost? I'm sure that's more expensive then the particle board version. I never even seen it or heard of it till now and have worked in a few cabinet shops
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
It’s 2x as much as particle core.
@dpmeyer48677 ай бұрын
thanks
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
Welcome
@vincentlee24606 ай бұрын
Can this material do miter lock joint for drawers?
@WoodworkersSourcecom6 ай бұрын
Sure thing
@danferguson40047 ай бұрын
So I'm curious about what the price comparison is
@jaykepley52387 ай бұрын
Hey Mark. What's the cost of 18mm 4x8 on this? Does it come in other colors? Thanks, and happy new year!
@paulramsey20007 ай бұрын
Their web page doesn't seem to allow for getting 4'x8' sheets but instead have packs of uniform sized pieces cut from a 4'x8' (e.g. 4 pcs 24"x46") for $119. I would have guessed that it was just based on assuming that they had to ship them to you and that you would be able to get sheets in the stores but it's listed as an "online exclusive". Hopefully Mark can provide a real answer.
@serenitycrownhorsefarm159327 күн бұрын
what do you do about the unfinished edges? If I want to use this to make shelves, I dont want the plywood edges to show. So what do you do to finish the edges?
@WoodworkersSourcecom26 күн бұрын
White iron on edge tape or solid wood edging will work great.
@acerjuglans3837 ай бұрын
Honestly, those plies look like the same colour and texture that easily-warped Chinese ply has.
@smacfe7 ай бұрын
Okay so I have found several three headed unicorns, but still have never run across this stuff. Where do you get it?
@WoodworkersSourcecom7 ай бұрын
This is a little embarrassing to have to say it, but the good folks at Woodworkers Source have it 😇
@howesfull87 ай бұрын
Nice vid. After a quick scan I didn't see this question. Is the core void free like baltic birch?