Making a Spindle Stop for my South Bend 11

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Winky's Workshop

Winky's Workshop

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good method for making a spindle stop. A link to the drawings is provided a reference only and probably won't be the same diameter as your spindle. drive.google.com/file/d/19vEz...

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@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 2 жыл бұрын
Mark I love the way you ended the video with the ghost dance. The wonderfull world of 1's and 0's we live in today.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Haha... thanks.
@Farm_fab
@Farm_fab 2 жыл бұрын
I have a nice selection of fasteners I get from a truck accessory company that are left over from assembling a variety of things. Some are SAE, and the others are metric. I also got some nice bolts from the scrap yard. Sometimes they are new from the scrap yard,but usually not.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Industrial surplus is handy to have around!
@daviddazer2425
@daviddazer2425 2 жыл бұрын
I could feel your sense of satisfaction when you tested the fit of those tapers for the first time. Awesome!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear from you Dave! Yeah I like it 😃
@seanrodden6151
@seanrodden6151 2 жыл бұрын
From cutting steel to cutting rugs! Nice tool. Simple and fun beginner project, too.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@t.d.mich.7064
@t.d.mich.7064 2 жыл бұрын
Nice build! Another type of stop I've used is a collet stop. An internal thread in the collet accepts the stop nut. A threaded shaft that has a lock nut on it, runs inside the stop nut, and is adjusted into position and locked in place with the lock nut.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
That would work!
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi 2 жыл бұрын
Great job 👍 thanks for sharing. And appreciate the disco moves. John Travolta would be proud of you 😄😄.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
HA, Thanks!
@martinsams1518
@martinsams1518 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Winky. Just made the spindle stop, had to modify it to suit my lathe but an extremely useful addition to the lathe. thanks for the drawing. Keep up the great videos
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks fantastic. Yes it is handy for sure!
@nashguy207
@nashguy207 2 жыл бұрын
Great job winky. I can see where that would come in handy.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I sold my Logan and needed one for the south bend. I've used it a few times already!
@KnoxMachining
@KnoxMachining 2 жыл бұрын
Love the music, and the dance at the end!! Nice tool too!!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@paulinmt2185
@paulinmt2185 2 жыл бұрын
For my 9" SBL, I made a spindle stop that uses a short plug inside the out-board end of the spindle (way simpler design). It is locked in place by a grub screw that backs out to engage a hole in the spindle wall. This arrangement gives me more depth for the work-piece ( almost the entire length of spindle plus chuck). The first iteration used a grub screw to hold the stop-rod, but my next one will hold it like a collet to avoid upsetting the rod. One could argue that a short plug would not hold the rod straight, but I have not found it to be an issue. Nice machine work, Winky! Best regards.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Shorter would be okay. Alignment is not super critical. I used a flat tip set screw to ovoid damaging the rod. You are right about this design, it didn't take me long to make but getting a good fit is critical. The amount of depth lost has never been an issue for me although I'm certain it will be tomorrow, lol. Make a video of your design! I can't picture how you made the grub screw back out. Of if you want to share, send me some pictures and I'll make a video in the future. There is ALWAYS a better way!!!! winkysworkshop@gmx.com
@martik778
@martik778 2 жыл бұрын
​ @Winky's Workshop Did you ever find out how that grub screw tightens the spindle plug? My spindle has a small hole ~11/64" (untapped) on the wall near the end which could accommodate some kind of screw to hold a stop in place.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@martik778 Did your SB 9 come with the hole in the side of the spindle or did you drill it?
@martik778
@martik778 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop It came with the hole. My older one (1944) does not have the hole. I plan to make a plug with a 1/4 hole and set screw for an adjustable rod and make some sort of fastener to hold the plug in place thru the spindle wall hole
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@martik778 that would work well!
@bud-in-pa589
@bud-in-pa589 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished mine for my Logan 820...nice project...thank you!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thats great!
@umahunter
@umahunter 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job just thought I'd add a tip for cleaning the spindle bore and tailstock bore or anything else get yourself a 12 gauge shotgun cleaning kit the brass bore brushes work great you can put the rod in a drill in the kit it'll have a couple more brushes and also a felt pad holder that works perfect to hold a strip of scotchbright and cloth I usually do the brass brush then scotchbright with wd40 then cloth 👍👍👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
That would work. I need to do that. When I first got the lathe is was 100% plugged. I socked the spindle in solvent and then water and detergent. That got about 98% of it.
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 2 жыл бұрын
Nice design ! I could use one of those on my lathe for sure! Another project added to the list !
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian, I posted a link to the drawing below the video. You could print it and modify the diameters to fit your lathe.
@Cpl.Cadaver
@Cpl.Cadaver 2 жыл бұрын
Good job. I made a similar one based on Harold Hall's design. It has a plug with a MT3 taper that goes into the nose of the spindle and prevents the rod from moving about. It also has a cap for the end of the rod that just fits into the bore of the cushman chuck to act as a more positive backstop for parts.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting although you can't use the spindle bore. There is probably a more simple way to do it but I could figure out how.
@d.graydraftinganddesign361
@d.graydraftinganddesign361 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Winky Thanks for sharing!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🤗
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 2 жыл бұрын
Mark, well thought out I might have to copy. Enjoyed..👍👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean, it was a fun project.
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 2 жыл бұрын
Prowling around today and found this. Making these adaptations to our equip rarely is a bad thing. Good to see you again this fine day my friend. Looks like a live center for the tailstock would be next eh. I see some chip loading in your file. I found a product at "Rio Grande" called "Burlife" It is inexpensive and the very best file, burr or even coarse sandpaper even hole saws that stops those nasty pieces that can ruin a finish. You will love it, GUARANTEED. What a great addon to the lathe. Good post bud.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I may have to try that!
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop It keeps my silver files like new. It should be around $10.00 your currency. I do a couple videos showing it.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomokosEnterprize - I'll check it out. Thanks
@dwightcarlson7136
@dwightcarlson7136 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you might internal thread the inside piece and then use a piece of threaded rod for the stop with a jam nut to lock it in position. But that might be harder to finely adjust since it might move when tightening the jam nut.... Again nice video and great idea!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dwight. I'm sure there are other good ways to do this but this worked well.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea winky, keep'um coming.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 2 жыл бұрын
Nice upgrade, thanks for sending
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Very handy tool Winky.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Harold!
@donmittlestaedt1117
@donmittlestaedt1117 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@stefantrethan
@stefantrethan 2 жыл бұрын
That swivel ginder stand is nice.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's a real space saver! I have a video of the grinder stand but honestly it could be made many different ways. I've actually thought about making it rotate on the post so that I could install two more grinders.
@jubiletabustamanteserrano2446
@jubiletabustamanteserrano2446 6 ай бұрын
MUY INTERESANTE ESE UTIL ,UN TRABAJO BIEN ECHO COMO SIEMPRE
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
Gracious!
@andyZ3500s
@andyZ3500s 2 жыл бұрын
This channel has a little of everything machining, disco happy dancing and a great cowboy YeeHa at the end. Another useful addition to your shop in the regular keep it simple and effective style. When did you install a DRO on the mill drill? It is a game changer for sure.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy! Yeah the DRO was installed a couple of years ago. The cheapest I could find and works perfect. About $85 for all three axis.
@andyZ3500s
@andyZ3500s 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Boy am I slow!! Here I've been thinking that was something on your wish list. Hard to believe that I just noticed. I need to go sit in the corner of shame for ten minutes now.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyZ3500s - You're too hard on yourself. Thanks for watching
@David_11111
@David_11111 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video, I don't want to admit how many times I have watched it :) you tool holder is normal except a bent spanner ? it would be nice to see a video on the tools you used, the normal cutter for facing off is not the one I would choose, But I am an amateur :) could explain why ??? thank you
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Bent? The tool holder holds the insert at an angle. This insert is meant to be use like this. Its a VNMG insert. It seems to work well for just about anything. If I was doing a lot of facing I'd probably use a different insert that brakes chips better.
@Baron3D
@Baron3D 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@darrelsartin4355
@darrelsartin4355 2 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a Rose Index. It'll aid in milling those slots.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that would be handy to have!
@David_11111
@David_11111 2 жыл бұрын
23:46 Nut drop.... obvious why but its a new trick to me thankyou :)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson 2 жыл бұрын
Really a well done project, and well ma video! It has its place in every machinists toolbox. A nice tool when turning multiple parts. But... using a collet chuck, I see an uncertainty as the collet chuck pulls the object deeper into the spindle. Who wins, the collet chuck or the spindle stop? You don't like the Joe Pie style, turning the threading tool upside down and lathe in reverse turning? Joking! Time 17:20. Emery paper, or a file, often does the trick better then more cuts. Time 17:50. Wow! That's a piedestal grinder! My one stands on the floor.... Time 18:30. I thought so. It was bottom it out earlier... Time 20:05. Slit sawing.... Poff, poff,poff... Is that the same kind of Chinese saw blade as I've got? Joking and laughing! Time 20:55. A slightly dangerous direction of cutting, climb cutting... End comment. A very useful tool for every lathe,
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess the plunge cut was climbing. Every time I have used that arbor it's out of round. I've thought about making a new one (but collets for the lathe!). I have a video of the grinder. I made it from my old drill press column. It has a buffer on one side and wire brush on the other. I love it. Reverse threading is not a good idea with a screw on chuck otherwise not a bad idea. When I get collets they will be ER40. They have a nut instead of a draw bar so you can use the bore. They are slower to use but in a home shop they are perfect. They also have a larger clamping range. Thanks for watching!
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Climb cutting works when the rigidity matches the needs. Making 2 arbors using different designs I say that those cheap Chinese saw blades have the hole off center. Move slowly knowing that only parts of the blade is cutting and it works. Also got a collet chuck for ER32, as I have a good set of them, and an ER40 collet chuck and a few collets to cover the larger dimensions.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Boerjesson Yeah... I wasn't too worried, I was going very slow. The arbor (Chinese) is the problem. The blades are high dollar blade from a local industry that closed. I have about 30 or 40 and could have got a whole box full.
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Haha. I've got a well made arbor and poor Chinese blades.....
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Boerjesson - Just re-read your first comment. Yeah collets might be an issue with the spindle stop because it pulls the work when it tightens. Maybe a very strong spring on the end of the rod to set the position and then allow it to pull in a little.... probably not an accurate method.
@rayfalcone6897
@rayfalcone6897 2 жыл бұрын
sweet
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray
@davidmcbrine4527
@davidmcbrine4527 2 жыл бұрын
Just an idea, why couldn't a person have put some cuts in the inside taper piece too to lock down on the 1/4" rod also, thus eliminating the need of a set screw?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. It would work I think although I suspect it might be hard to adjust.
@davidmcbrine4527
@davidmcbrine4527 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop How so? Also, your making it for a mass production/repeatability so your not adjusting it often.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
In most cases it wouldn't matter but things tend to move around as a taper is being locked down. Making a slight adjustment would be more difficult.
@davidmcbrine4527
@davidmcbrine4527 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop You would know, having built it and using it.
@user-td8nl3je4e
@user-td8nl3je4e 2 жыл бұрын
ΚΑΛΗΜΕΡΑΑΑΑ ΚΑΛΟ Σ/Κ
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d 2 жыл бұрын
I have to make me one of those for my Logan.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I have one for my Logan but this one turned out better. Also , I sold my Logan.
@dannywilsher4165
@dannywilsher4165 2 жыл бұрын
Upping the entertainment factor I see... Nice spindle stop also!!!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... every once in a while I get inspired. Thanks
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
2:30 bizarre observation - looks to me like your leadscrew threading dial pops up and down every revolution - odd !
@andyZ3500s
@andyZ3500s 2 жыл бұрын
Eagle eye -- could be a shiny spot?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
That probably explains why I had trouble threading the other day. I made the threading dial and the dial screw comes loose. I need to loctite it. I'm glad it didn't slip while cutting the threads on the project! Ha
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyZ3500s it did - ha
@gabewhisen3446
@gabewhisen3446 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese finger trap. Hilariously since I was a kid with a chinese finger trap components with torque lock capability somehow make that connection through the synapses of my right n left brain which I belive are connected with, said finger trap
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Haha... finny! Thanks
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 2 жыл бұрын
I had some time so I gave all your commenters a like. I don't know if it helps but it sure can't hurt eh.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
And if you haven't got a bandsaw, use the mill ;)
@gabewhisen3446
@gabewhisen3446 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabewhisen3446 I haven't got a bandsaw !
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... whatever works
@andrewlambert7246
@andrewlambert7246 2 жыл бұрын
Looks my lathe.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
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