Making An Osage Orange Coffee Mug...Maybe Not A Good Idea!

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@TheTechnosasquatch 5 жыл бұрын

Wooden cups are traditionally boiled in water for a while to help finish them. That will leach the remaining oils and other impurities that the tree absorbed while it grew. Boil it and try again, worst that can happen is either the cup splits and you have to seal it or it just goes back to being a pencil cup/vase.

@Foxuniverso 5 жыл бұрын

Nice bit of info, thanks

@TheTechnosasquatch 5 жыл бұрын

@Green Sea Ideally you'd boil it several times, until the water is clear, but you may be able to find a better answer elsewhere for the specific wood you are using.

@Vanilla-vf1dt 5 жыл бұрын

i would've kept it just in case someone i hated came over and asked for a cup of water/tea/etc.

@WoodworkingCraftsman 5 жыл бұрын

thank for share!

@slendercream6468 4 жыл бұрын

Would you boil it before of after shaping it into a cup

@HandToolRescue 5 жыл бұрын

Time for a 17HP drill press!

@secret234 5 жыл бұрын

I got the same drill press he has, works perfect. He just need to tighten the straps by pulling on the motor...

@jessterbal 5 жыл бұрын

lathe!

@LarryCook1960 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 260 pound Fisch drill press, with a 5/8" chuck, and it does the same thing when drilling with a large forstner bit, into osage orange and hickory knots. Some wood is just too hard.

@TomokosEnterprize 5 жыл бұрын

It's always a pleasure to see you Andy. I have never seen Osage Orange before. No Idea it was that hard or as beautiful ! Bummer on the taste transfer bud. You bet I will go check this engraver out.

@raduvadan 5 жыл бұрын

That hole into endgrain would be exactly the kind of thing to do on the lathe - with the forstner bit, but on the lathe, makes it much faster and easier.

@WoLpH 5 жыл бұрын

I think the point was not using a lathe: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jbOHpdGY3bTWZ2Q.htmlm46s

@bilbaggins1 4 ай бұрын

IF YOU OWN A LATHE!!! :-)

@ThirdCoastCraftsman 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video as always man. Those close up planing shots were KILLER! This video just gave me an awesome idea too!

@applekiller309 5 жыл бұрын

Can't you use food safe epoxy to waterproof it and protect from flavour/colour transfer?

@thems_the_brakes 5 жыл бұрын

I have asked one 'food safe' epoxy maker to show me an ingredients list. My guess is most of them use BPS instead of BPA, which would really not make them all that food safe. I would love some more information on the topic!

@jamesoxford4260 5 жыл бұрын

exactly what i was going to say... beat me to it.

@iraadams7459 5 жыл бұрын

Nearly all finishes are food safe when dry. They might be toxic to ingest the chips if they start flaking off, but are not water soluble, so they won't dissolve in your food or drink. Unless you use shellac and drink alcohol.

@Falteredhope 5 жыл бұрын

Apple Killer that’s what I was about to say. Haha

@sdoilpaint4368 5 жыл бұрын

With the wood being light in colour any oil used will still let harsh food colours stain thats what i have learnt from making spoons

@thenewseorarek9625 5 жыл бұрын

*puts liquid into plant* *liquid tastes like plant* *surprised pikachu face*

@SambosStopMos 5 жыл бұрын

Neat cup! On our farms we have tons of Osage trees, we call them hedge trees, from the hedge apples they produce!

@davidcoats1037 5 жыл бұрын

You need to boil the cup in very salty water for about an hour. Change the water and repeat until water remains clear.

@ryan_bombard 3 жыл бұрын

Andy, love what you're doing. Really impressive how close to round you got it with the hand planes. I am a turner and make many of those (though not out of osage). General finishes has a food safe salad bowl finish that I use. It take several coats, letting them fully cure and sanding back between coats. Then you have to let them sit on the shelf for a few weeks, until the odors from the finish fade away. I only make them as custom orders now, the finish time makes them very expensive.

@joshuaisbell9174 5 жыл бұрын

Osage Orange has a Hugh level of tannins in it. If present in food or drink, it gives the bitter, astringent flavor. The tannins oxidizing over time is what gives Osage the darker color change over time from either light exposure or ammonia fuming. Not sure if the “leaching” into the coffee would be improved/eliminated once the oxidation has occurred and it’s darkened up.

@williamellis8993 5 жыл бұрын

With so many wood turning videos, it's refreshing to see this one.

@aplusemery 5 жыл бұрын

Another great project and video! You do well at showing what needs to be done without saying it or even over-emphasizing anything. Also I think the placement of your ad was really well done -- later into the video when you know your viewers were willing to watch, and right when you were about to spend awhile sanding and buffing; it let us know where your project was going while also making me feel like the ad wasn't a burden at all.

@ondrejnedoma2816 5 жыл бұрын

Put glass into it or put lay of epoxy inside of it!

@barthanes1 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, coat it in epoxy.

@torgefligge4703 5 жыл бұрын

Also it give food save epoxy for that problem.

@plants5743 5 жыл бұрын

Epoxy even food safe epoxy probably isn’t good for coffee

@WoodworkingCraftsman 5 жыл бұрын

epoxy is great idea!

@bobrees4363 5 жыл бұрын

Osage orange or hedge as it is known in Missouri, is a very tough wood that makes excellent fence posts (it doesn't rot) and pretty good tool handles. The yellow color will oxidize into a deep brown in a short while. The biggest thing is keeping it from cracking as it seasons.

@kkeith49 5 жыл бұрын

Andy, that's some insane shaping/rounding with hand planes. Getting that slope so perfect is satisfying. Great video!

@phredrocks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy, I am very impressed with the completed project. I would have not thought of using a plane to make a round object. Mad props! I love osage orange for many of my projects. lately knife scales. Thanks again, keep up the good work. fred

@CalebMayfieldMHF 5 жыл бұрын

I love it! Osage is my favorite. The burls and colors you can get are great. It can be a bit of a challenge to work though. As others have said, a good food safe sealer or epoxy would take care of that flavor issue, but then your wife wouldn't get an awesome vase.

@josiahlacey8660 5 жыл бұрын

Can you show us how you sharpen a forstner bit?

@stormyeffects4795 5 жыл бұрын

Josiah Lacey I haven’t watched all the way through this, but I skimmed the comments - possibly okay kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rt-Udsajqqe9gWQ.html

@Kkuts37 5 жыл бұрын

Cool shot withe the hand plane!

@MJAMES1021 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a new subscriber. I love watching you take a plain piece of wood, a plank or a piece of wood from a tree and make something very beautiful with it.

@Sklallamstrong 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for sharing. I learn a lot about woodworking from your content. Carry on.

@montagne4671 3 жыл бұрын

I never realized how pretty Osage orange is. The tight grain kinda reminds me of bamboo.

@kirkboswell2575 4 жыл бұрын

Paint the inside with a coat or two of epoxy, preferably marine. But like several have said, boiling wooden utensils is supposed to neutralize any noxious flavors. I'd do that carefully, though, because Osage Orange might crack if treated that way.

@MeansWoodshop 5 жыл бұрын

It looks good, man. You could always coat it with epoxy or a thick layer of beeswax. I’ve got some beer mugs that I made over a year ago that hold up great with epoxy.

@metaspencer 5 жыл бұрын

gorgeous. you always make the most simple, elegant objects.

@ToeCutter454 4 жыл бұрын

Birch is probably your best bet for making cups/mugs. the Finn's typically carve a traditional "Kuksa" from it and i hear they have a really good birch sap drink to go with it too!

@DylansDIYWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын

the wood is amazing, I love the smell of it too! never tasted wood before though, I used many coats of finish on my wooden mug

@thegloriousretardmagnet4257 4 жыл бұрын

if it smells, it is bad for contact with food. smell means essential oils or resin. Both things you dont want to be in your food because they change the flavor and might even be pretty unhealthy. Just take Maple. Doesn't have any of that, and also no natural tanning agents like oak. those are for example the reason why you get black fingers after working with it for a while

@gaylonreedy1545 5 жыл бұрын

Osage orange contains tetrahydroxystilbene which may explain it's decay resistance according to Michael Dirr's Manual of Woody Plants. Maybe pencil holder or mother in law cup best use lol.

@ReasonAboveEverything 5 жыл бұрын

Gaylon Reedy Yes. A present for mother-in-law...

@MikeTheMaker1 5 жыл бұрын

Gaylon Reedy hahaha MILC

@farqitol 5 жыл бұрын

My ex mother in law was a beautiful lady. Perhaps a divorce gift for the ex!

@D100janovski 5 жыл бұрын

I just adore the sound of the plane blades cutting trough the wood

@philochristos 5 жыл бұрын

All you have to do is coat the inside of it with a pour-on epoxy (the kind they use to cover counter-tops and stuff). That'll seal it up. You can get small amounts of it at hobby shops.

@chrisknott4094 5 жыл бұрын

My favorite wood of all time. Such a beautiful wood not as fun to work with though. I've got some cuttings from my grandfather's ranch they are about 70 years old. They are some of the first fence posts he cut when he bought the place.

@lukecandow8196 5 жыл бұрын

Osage is one of my favorite wood types to use

@johnbriggs7462 5 жыл бұрын

You want some coffee with that mineral oil 😂😂

@jx1ius 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@markcockerham646 5 жыл бұрын

The Finnish use birch burls to make coffee mugs called Kuksa, they soak them in salt water before carving them. The coffee actually seals the wood, due to the oils in it. The first month is a bit salty, but then they’re great for coffee, and whiskey.

@flatrockmountainforge2923 5 жыл бұрын

The Good of the Land sent me. Can’t wait to see the miter saw in action.

@paulodaj 3 жыл бұрын

In Brazil there is a kind of wood container that the oldest people used to use for water, they have a bitter taste too, but they leave a couple days in water bath and the bitter and colour that comes from the wood goes away... You can try it out

@jerrystark6766 5 жыл бұрын

The previous comments about epoxy for the lining make good sense. Nice cup!

@wolfgtweb 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it was used for a long time whether the coffee would flavor the cup. Coffee is acidic. I would think that sooner or later it would leech out the oils and replace them with coffee flavor. But I guess the issue would be that 1. It would probably take forever, drinking crappy tasting coffee. and 2. By the time the cup was good to go, it would probably split and you would have to start over. Maybe try leaving coffee in it during the day. See what it does after a couple weeks of fresh coffee each day. (don't drink it, just let it work on it)

@MikeTheMaker1 5 жыл бұрын

Gregory Wolf I’m really curious if this would work.

@blademaker4263 4 жыл бұрын

Regardless of the outcome of the cup it's very satisfying to watch the process almost relaxing.

@timokauppinen4957 4 жыл бұрын

In Finland when we make a wooden mug named "kuksa" we finish it with used coffee grounds. So the wood gets grease and gets a coffee taste.

@PatrickParsonWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын

You're right, it looks neat anyhow. Fun video to watch.

@burnshow1380 5 жыл бұрын

Nice work Andy! ive been working with Osage Orange for a while now it is my favorite ive made fishing lures, guitars also i made a few cutting boards treated with lem oil(thankfully they dont leech bitterness) but ya thanks for the heads up man because i was gunna try this cup idea aswell lol. Also thanks for spreading the knowledge and motivation to make awesome stuff !!

@dinobuddy 5 жыл бұрын

Don't give up on it! I made a knife handle out of osage orange recently, and it leached orangy-yellow when it got wet for a while. Eventually it all leached out and the wood turned a nice mahogany shade of brown. Maybe just weight it down and steep in water for a couple of days?

@wasimkhan4382 5 жыл бұрын

Honest review after so much efforts!!

@scarmenl 5 жыл бұрын

I think I watched the motor on your drill press shifting around. That might account for some of the belt slippage.

@adamsimon7402 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome cup. If you could turn your lathe on the slowest speed you could “paint” some food safe epoxy on the inside. The slow speed will keep it from puddling and give it and even finish. I’ve done this with beer steins.

@snr2707 4 жыл бұрын

Boil it to release the tannins..you will have to boil it multiple times until water is clear. Nice work!

@ButchShelton 5 жыл бұрын

Only thing I make out of osage orange are police nightsticks. The ones issued in my town are made of pine. Copy them like a spindle and paint it black. They sell well

@atlhammer 5 жыл бұрын

Good info & enjoyed watching you make it 👍🏻

@sethbracken 5 жыл бұрын

Those shots you took of the workpiece from behind and under the plane were awesome.

@lucadeloddere4062 5 жыл бұрын

That alarm is soo good and really simple for using it works good

@jackofalltrades8353 5 жыл бұрын

Bro I know it’s your shop but those babies of yours will be a beautiful SIGHT as they grow older. Shame to miss that due to not wearing eye protection when operating power equipment! Safety First! Thanks and have a successful New Year!

@smackygamer2052 5 жыл бұрын

Live and learn! Thanks for sharing!

@kanouscreations9549 5 жыл бұрын

That’s so cool I was about to do something similar

@ludus1135 5 жыл бұрын

Ayeee as I drink my coffee

@ADVJason 5 жыл бұрын

I've made a few bows out of Osage. I was not surprised by the drilling of it and I kept thinking how is he going to seal it. Crazy stuff has so much yellow in it. But leave it in the sun a while and its going to turn a deep brown... Very cool wood for bows though

@vinnielacerna9177 5 жыл бұрын

Yay! A new video I haven’t been able to watch your videos for a while but now I’m back! Nice video bye well done 😁 I recently got myself a lathe really happy with my first project 😁😁

@helmsdeep9tim 5 жыл бұрын

First wide shot of the drill press, I noticed the motor jumping on it's mounts like the lock nuts are backing off. Maybe check the lineup using the mounting bolts to push the motor back and offset the stretched belt. I also bet that mill could make a hell of a stout motor mount bracket replacement

@erikjoven2388 5 жыл бұрын

Osage Orange is a total beast of a material - must have been at that drill press for quite literally an entire day.

@AreBoobsPenises 5 жыл бұрын

So much talent dude. Really enjoy your vids

@mikecarroll3132 5 жыл бұрын

I made a set of grips for my Ruger Blackhawk out of hedge. Looks really nice against the blued metal!

@heikoschelberg2968 5 жыл бұрын

I used birch and it works. Coffee, tea, cool drinks,... No bad taste or ugly colours

@Syrkyth 5 жыл бұрын

Coat the interior in molten beeswax. That should eliminate the taste problem. It's what's used in drinking horns. But yeah, no hot liquids unless you want those organic flavours seeping through.

@bassnbluegill1406 5 жыл бұрын

Such a beatiful wood.

@drakereuter90 5 жыл бұрын

Love the videos!! What finish do you recommend for a table top that will still let the grain come through really good

@NeonCaveman 5 жыл бұрын

You might be able to soak out the tannins. Also maple or oak might be good for making mugs, especially beer mugs. Back in ye oldie times they would coat the inner parts of wood or leather drinking vessels with woodpitch glue and/or beeswax. Beeswax might be good here, maybe not as a coffee mug but just as a normal cup.

@Cadwaladr 5 жыл бұрын

If you can get your hands on some lignum vitae, that makes a pretty good cup, I have one for yerba mate that I got in Chile.

@tylerd3951 5 жыл бұрын

Nice. Spent 3 months down there in Vina del Mar. neat place.

@sasig5215 5 жыл бұрын

Hierba* not "yerba"

@Cadwaladr 5 жыл бұрын

@@sasig5215 Look it up.

@fizbinsfire 4 жыл бұрын

You can make dice cups or dice trays out of it. Woodburn some kewl elvish letters or runes etc on them and sell them to D&D nerds.

@belialuedke1880 5 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this. 💙

@johnprestonii871 5 жыл бұрын

Love it! The honesty about it not being a good coffee mug kinda cracked me up. Love the videos, keep it up

@thegloriousretardmagnet4257 4 жыл бұрын

maple is really good for making anything that comes in contact with food. Like cutting boards or maybe even mugs. It doesn't have natural tanning agents like oak, not really any resin and no essential oils that will make your food smell diffrent or even change the color. Ever wondered why you have black fingers after working with oak a lot? the tanning agents. Also maple does not smell at all. So I would definitely try to do the project again, using maple. And under any circumstances. Do not oil, stain or paint it afterwards. Just leave it as it is or all that sometimes toxic stuff will land in your body. Oil looks nice and all but ask yourself first if you would want to drink it.

@KingstonLaneWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to somebody else starts a power tool then works out how they’re going to hold the piece.

@colmhain 5 жыл бұрын

I cooped one together once form sycamore. Wanted a shop-proof mug. Took a while to leach the flavoring out of it.

@marcomolo 5 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous mug, you're a wizard with the hand planes man! I know from researching people make kuksas that they boil the cup in salted water before use to remove flavours. They're quite often carved from birch but it might work for Osage Orange too though. worth a try. keep up the good work, from Ireland

@yurrev 5 жыл бұрын

not tasteless on the first times though. I still remember my first coffee in it, mix of salt and sugar ewww XD

@KoalityofLife 5 жыл бұрын

New to your channel, Very cool mug, pencil holder, vase, whatever you use it for it will look great. :)

@speedrrracer 5 жыл бұрын

And mineral oil is a laxative, so you'd want to be careful about how much of that finish you applied, since it doesn't cure. Food safe epoxy is the way to go, or line the cup with metal / ceramic

@adamperkins6054 5 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that it's not a laxative in the sense that it stimulates things, but it acts as a lubricant. Not sure where I heard that though.

@rogerjackway429 5 жыл бұрын

Man that wood looked really nice to work with. I have been looking at all the distributors around my area within reason (150 miles) and no one carries it.

@possumsausage5029 5 жыл бұрын

Boiling the cup in extremely salty water will help drive the oils and flavors out of it. Look into making a kuksa. Mainly the treating of the wood traditionally used on a kuksa. You could also line the cup with brewers pitch.

@kovamaps9379 5 жыл бұрын

Same as me in my little shop. Gun hangging on the wall, the big difference is that i built the gun... :D

@BradsWorkbench 5 жыл бұрын

Wonder if pecan would do any better

@johnt4060 5 жыл бұрын

Brads Workbench I'd love to see Black walnut

@jeremylanger2176 5 жыл бұрын

White oak adds a sort of vanilla flavor to everything. I turned a bunch of cups out of it a few years ago, kind is an odd sensation. Drinking an IPA out of one and there’s a vanilla finish on it.

@quallze 4 жыл бұрын

We use it for fence post and fire wood. When it drys it gets very hard!

@mnhockeyav1216 5 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else turn on closed captioning theres alot if laughter and applause

@p51_mustang1 Жыл бұрын

2:07 the forbidden cheese from the kraft mac n cheese

@GratefulNachos 5 жыл бұрын

Osage is such a hardwood. I made a maul with some and it works really good for that.

@StuffUCanMake 5 жыл бұрын

This is cool Andy!

@kippainter3480 5 жыл бұрын

I have some Osage orange tree’s around my property that we’re used as fencing since the animals would never cross them. Due to something in the oranges I have no idea about. My grandpa even used them as moth balls under the house. Always thought it was the weirdest looking “fruit”? Around here some date back to the 1800’s and they’re pretty rare. I wonder if some of these people have seen just how weird the “fruit” looks lol.

@benstanziyoyo473 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, Osage Orange wood is the hottest burning fire wood of any tree.

@LurksNoMore 5 жыл бұрын

Now that's some seriously hard wood. Also, very yellow!

@gabrielsuarez4424 5 жыл бұрын

what would you recommend for making a wood cup safe? I am making one right now an I would like a quick answer...

@sdoilpaint4368 5 жыл бұрын

Well done mate you've done it again

@PogaYlants 4 жыл бұрын

You should do a video with Demolition Ranch and see if Orange Osage would stop a bullet!!

@bcubing1537 5 жыл бұрын

I was just working with Osage orange today!

@morgan0179 5 жыл бұрын

I had a similar suggestion to some of the others. But I thought perhaps you could char the inside with a torch to keep the wood/plant flavors out.

@lmd2454 3 жыл бұрын

Osage orange has some medicinal properties, you should look into it. You might have just created a great way to steep some Osage orange tea!

@Rorona550 5 жыл бұрын

Once an intruder has been detected, simple safe dispatches demolition ranch to the shop.

@Cactinaes 5 жыл бұрын

I would of put a layer of food safe epoxy on the inside to seal the release of tannins from bodark wood.

@michaeltalaganis6518 5 жыл бұрын

Boil the wood to get the tannins out of it, then oil/ wax it with beeswax or coconut oil.

@rezzpirelli4251 5 жыл бұрын

Make your doggo something. Like bowls for water and food or a bed from. Maybe clogs for his paws lol