Making Formal Upright Bonsai from Alberta Spruce

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video I take some raw material (Spruce) and create an informal upright bonsai.
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@solbadgear 2 жыл бұрын

Such a heartwarming and down-to-earth person he is. He cuts and then looks at the camera to interact with the viewers. I'm glad there's a Mr. Chan in the bonsai world and hope that there is one in every world.

@joshuacruise6626 3 жыл бұрын

When he said that the purpose of this video is not to show off (his) masterpieces but to help the beginners to make bonsai making enjoyable, i felt his sincerity. Bless his heart😊😊♥️♥️🙏

@katreyu2967 3 жыл бұрын

Joshua Cruise that’s when I knew this was the right video

@hamidghasemi9612 2 жыл бұрын

hi my dear. this video is only for testing .

@coliren5 2 жыл бұрын

@@katreyu2967 h

@johnlaraway3008 Жыл бұрын

I love how he throws in bits of philosophy and wisdom that don’t just apply to Bonsai.

@spacemonkeydotcom 2 жыл бұрын

What a humble soul. Showing the world his deepest trade secrets for free with no expectation of something in return. I am truly amazed. I've learned so much from you, sir. Much love and respect!

@brookiemonster9581 3 жыл бұрын

“Every time I explain it and repeat it you will learn something” So wise

@turkey0165 4 жыл бұрын

The greatest gift one human being can give another, is the gift of knowledge and experience! Thank you for your gift it will last me my entire life! I can’t wait to start Bonzai ! 🌲

@peterchan3100 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you - What a lovely saying you have just made about the gift of knowledge.

@annotten7413 3 жыл бұрын

Foxtrot Oscar those same 2 idiots have posted the exact same thing on many channels

@ADRIAN-zh4ti 3 жыл бұрын

i prefer money gifts

@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын

@@foxtrotoscar4284 'Tag Teaming'? Whats that? ?

@dailyguy6189 2 жыл бұрын

It’s called bonsai not BANZAI!!!

@crystalm4324 4 жыл бұрын

My Grandpa planted 3 trees when my Grandma and him bought their first house. One was an Alberta Spruce he planted on two copper pennies!The copper pennies were important to make the spruce a poor man’s blue spruce. It did indeed turn a bluish colour. 75 years later the trees are massive, beautiful, and considered historic. (And structural in an Edmonton Suburb) So even though the house was torn down last year, my daughters still love the stories of the trees and can go visit Great Grandpa’s trees and the bench we put at the entrance to the park across the street. **the other tree is actually two giant maple tree that have grown intertwined with each other. They have a plaque with my Grandparents names, one tree for each, forever together.

@jidoc4877 3 жыл бұрын

im curious what these trees look like, im also in edmonton.

@icarusalchemist1398 3 жыл бұрын

That's a beautiful story and a great living memory.

@cabanabarry9796 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@annettearellano9482 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that's interesting story😊

@crystalm4324 3 жыл бұрын

Jireh Climaco - Sorry for the time lapse, I didn’t see the reply. The trees are now Heritage Trees. Unfortunately, the plaque is gone right now. But, they are located on the South Side near one of the Entrances to Mill Creek. If you’re familiar with Argyll or 91st at all you’ll find it no problem 9112-71AveNW - it is a BEAUTIFUL Ave for old trees 🌳. Also, please walk down the entrance to Mill Creek just across the street to your right and you’ll find my Grandpa’s Bench!! When you look across from there you might be able to see a little cement from a huge drain pipe into what used to be a part of Mill Creek. It was a huge swimming hole for my Mom and Uncles! For us it was a smaller creek style splash area at the right times of year when we were very young. It’s amazing how the land changes. All those bridges used to be train trestles as well, you had to watch your step. In my mom’s youth Trains still ran through there!! They had barrels on the side of the longer trestles you could jump in if you couldn’t make it to the end😱. The world didn’t take it self so seriously then. Slowly we wrapped ourselves and kids in more and more bubble wrap.

@G1NZOU 3 жыл бұрын

I love how clear the instructions are, not only giving advice, but you give the reasons why it's a good idea to do so.

@circularpizzabox2134 3 жыл бұрын

Your teachings are better than 98% out here on YT. You explanations, the way you’re promoting there’s no “one way to do Bonsai”. Everything I’ve heard and learned from your channel has driven my passion to become a better student at Bonsai.

@rufinhambrook-rose7791 2 жыл бұрын

your totally right!

@ExpertOfFX 3 жыл бұрын

I awoke to you still, frozen as the KZfaq video had paused itself! I started it back up & saw BONSAI! Thank you my new Master, I have grown today my own new branch, & immediately purchased wire & watched you contently! THANK YOU!

@andreachang9998 3 жыл бұрын

I love how ruthless he is. Bonsai pruning is not for the faint of heart.

@waynethebarber1095 3 жыл бұрын

Boy are you right.... It takes a lot to cut up a 75 year old tree....

@nokiddin3045 3 жыл бұрын

Its the wiring of the branches and bending them that scares me..

@stupidstupidwhat2472 4 жыл бұрын

Dude your videos are never too long if they were three hours long I’d sit here and watch them

@danutashayler34 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love how you created natural spruce trekking through the northern forest in Canada. A great tutorial, you are one of a kind Peter Chan. Thanks so much

@maryshoemaker7593 4 жыл бұрын

Once again, Peter... you’ve made the unknown much easier with guided imagery...stay well!!

@consciouswriter6531 3 жыл бұрын

I have learned more in the last hour watching your videos than in my entire “bonsai/pruning self teaching/experimentation” over the past 30 years. This is going to be my next project. Love it so much!

@peterchan3100 2 жыл бұрын

Keep it up and keep experimenting - that's the best way.

@slamboy66 4 жыл бұрын

You know your in for a wild ride when Peter says " Just for the heck of it, let's see if I use low branches what would happen " .

@davidphillipson7256 4 жыл бұрын

amazing, i was enthralled from beginning to end, always wanted to to this but thought it took decades to do. This is now my new hobby, thank you so much.

@HavocVulture21 3 жыл бұрын

@gerry Wrong. So very very wrong. No bonsai master grows trees from seed, aside from small side projects and such. Originally bonsai were almost all yamadori gathered from the mountains in Japan. Nursery stock isn't quite gathering trees from the wild, but that requires permission from land owners, so it's not always feasible. People who attempt to grow from seed are actually looked down on by bonsai snobs. Please don't try to act as an authority on a subject you clearly are only starting to learn. It makes it confusing for other beginners :) All this said, growing trees from seed is very rewarding in its own right, and I often do it myself.

@ninjaturtledude999 3 жыл бұрын

@gerry no decent bonsais are grown from seed, that is the common misconception

@alexandrapark3832 3 жыл бұрын

@@ninjaturtledude999 really? I just got me bonsai kit i thought starting from seed is common sense. More rewarding definitely.

@rudyschwab7709 3 жыл бұрын

When he does this, he makes beautiful bonsai. If I did it, I would make a Charlie Brown Christmas tree.

@zacharynoragon4030 3 жыл бұрын

What ever makes YOU happy!

@kurtbarlow9402 3 жыл бұрын

I got a rock.

@kfroetta4325 3 жыл бұрын

You’ll never know if you don’t try!

@alvinwhitley1490 3 жыл бұрын

Charlie Brown trees are Good !

@haraldisdead 3 жыл бұрын

I KNOW! ME TOO!

@jhanks2012 4 жыл бұрын

That bonsai on the left of screen has really got some character to it

@remingtonnorth4696 4 жыл бұрын

I'm so grateful for the detail in conversation as you work through your decisions. this is SUCH valuable context.

@marphtwo 3 жыл бұрын

"Lovely growth" *chops it off*

@cochise185 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously who gives this a thumbs down? this is a very educating and helpful video. THANK YOU!

@apoklyptykl13DMT 3 жыл бұрын

you can see the experience from how easily he cuts the length of the wire ... was thinking to do this when I saw them in the shop now I know that is was a good idea ... thank you for everything .... ignore the people that say you talk to much talking is information ... much love and respect

@jacobschultz2546 2 жыл бұрын

I watch these videos on the front room TV all the time, sometimes sometimes ones that I even watched before. My wife finally picked up a baby blue spruce for me 2 days ago. And it's been some of the most relaxing times this last week, getting to shape and prune and care and have it grow into my vision. It's videos like these that allowed me to realize that I could do it too.

@PCat620 3 жыл бұрын

"You must be wondering..." Just that phrase makes my day now. Love your spirit, Peter!

@troythevis4456 3 жыл бұрын

Great subject Peter, really enjoyed the upright tree leson. Keep them coming because even when you repeat a lesson we learn due to every tree is different.

@aoiahiru670 3 жыл бұрын

"You need to show some TRUNK!" Quote of the day.

@skyscraper5910 3 жыл бұрын

doing it twice REALLY makes this video better than it would be otherwise. great idea

@Jaybiiird 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciation to the cameraman, and to Peter. This channel is such a great way to relax. :)

@donheupel2196 4 жыл бұрын

You sir are a national treasure... your command of language and choice of words and phrases is so inspiring, i tried just listening and the pictures you paint in our minds is wonderful.As many other stated , my Sunday morning routine is changed forever.

@peterchan3100 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your encouraging feedback. I hate hearing my own voice and have asked a voice coach to help me improve, but she told me not to change anything.

@Chercher4848 Жыл бұрын

Listen to your voice coach, she’s right. We love your voice, we love your teachings & your passion for bonsai is so inspiring. You sir are the reason I started. Thank you!

@florianartus3231 4 жыл бұрын

As an architect, your mind process echoes a lot with what i shall take into account when i'm dealing with a new site or a new refurbishment... with any creative process opened to the environment i guess. Don't hesitate to repeat, both because you're a patient teacher, and because as a foreigner, i do appreciate the clear and delightful english you're using :)

@Cherryparfait41 2 жыл бұрын

I hated to hear him mention that some may think he talks too much…if that is the case, then they might be missing something or are not an ordinary mortal 😅 such as I. It’s where the magic happens for those that can benefit and are willing to take in everything that he is generously sharing.

@jonhmonsalve Жыл бұрын

All I can say is thanks to Mr Chan, proud to be one of your online students from Medellín - Colombia.

@carmenbitzer3583 2 жыл бұрын

We appreciate that you talk through your process because its helpful for us to hear the thought process. Thank you!

@kalasoent517 4 жыл бұрын

“Ordinary, humble mortals” excellent! Lol

@tinaschilling3259 4 жыл бұрын

Lovely Lovely....I am so engrossed in your style of training, your tone and full explanations ...thank you so much ...from Cape Town South Africa...new bonsai beginner

@timdady4660 2 жыл бұрын

I have been fascinated by Koi carp and Bonsai trees all of my adult life , I have kept koi for over 30 years but have struggled with the knowledge of Bonsai and the skill of making my own trees. When I first started, there was very little in the teaching a few books , I have tried but ,I guess I got to eager and once the branch is cut !!!!! Finding this site, late I know has given me the push I need to try again. nothing boring in the teaching just a love of what you do, some people can talk to you with out it being too much the voice ,calm, informative, passionate, I will now be checking in every day until I have watched all. Thank you for inspiring me.

@kastironwoman6009 11 ай бұрын

That's me, "an ordinary humble mortal" and the thought that I could make my own bonsai is astounding!! Thankyou for teaching this to us all over the world. From Utah, USA.

@shonebiswana4423 3 жыл бұрын

These video's calm me down. I love looking at all the trees and you voice is very soothing.

@greenlizardballs 3 жыл бұрын

I think several of these trees styled like this and planted together would make an incredible forest scene. Especially if you were to leave it out in the snow for a little while.

@trieuvu3536 2 жыл бұрын

The master makes everything look easy, quick decisions, amazing dexterity and know how. What saves the learner is the clear explanation, step by step reasoning. Thank you!

@mikenco 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter. This one is an absolute masterclass on removing branches from congested trees.

@marysoldeeley2218 4 жыл бұрын

I could watch you doing that all day long! It would still take me days to decide on one branch! Hahaha! Thank you for the lesson! Be safe.

@victoriousmale1430 4 жыл бұрын

this style of bonsai is my fav together with forest bonsai. I prefer vertical bonsai its more natural to me.

@Hateweek1984 3 жыл бұрын

I love this guy...I could watch him work all day!...and learning about Bonsai too is a great side effect...

@jjbpaca Жыл бұрын

Yes, your videos are enabling this humble Bonsai artist to learn and enjoy the art form. Thank-You!

@msanchez7317 4 жыл бұрын

This is great! I have two spruce in a smallish set of pots at my front door, this looks like a fun weekend project for them.

@lindalawrance4184 3 жыл бұрын

I truly enjoy watching you transform something that is already beautiful into what looks like an older & established tree. I always loved trees & now you have motivated me to try and learn to do bonsai. Thank you!

@DiscoStuLikesDiscoMusic 2 жыл бұрын

I am very in tune with event around my life. I decided to begin bonsai, ordered tools from amazon and happened to buy a dwarf alberta spruce from store. I get my supplies and look for some direction from youtube. I discovered your video on turning my exact tree into bonsai. thank you! your guidance in all things bonsai is a gift!

@jasonlockhorst1505 3 жыл бұрын

You are a very generous human being. Thank you sir

@DarkMatterExists 4 жыл бұрын

Peter, I’ve learned so much from you, watching your videos. Thank you for filming and sharing your knowledge of this beautiful art form. I really appreciate it. ~ A loyal U.S. viewer and bonsai student.

@PrairieDancerRose 4 жыл бұрын

yes I appreciate your step-by-step procedure, talking us through it. thank-you ever so much!

@shmickyshmoe 4 жыл бұрын

You certainly do not talk too much!! I thoroughly enjoy watching and hearing your refreshing simplicity and wisdom. It has given me more confidence in doing bonsai / Penjing. Thanks so very much! Hoping you are staying very safe and well during the pandemic!

@walling2058 4 жыл бұрын

I am from Nagaland and the way you speak and explain is just like my elders do🤣. Love everything about it❤️.

@peterchan3100 3 жыл бұрын

Nagaland - I knew two Naga boys when I was in IIT-kharagpur - Ahkang Ao and Imo Ao

@drolsisusej100 4 жыл бұрын

i love what you do , THANK YOU for passing down your knowledge for free to all of us, a true sign of a master. i have learned so much and for that i thank you for this invaluable information.

@ford335gt 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr Chan for taking the time to show us all your amazing skills with branch selection. I have trained trees for almost 30 years and still find trusting myself hard, always second geuss if it is correct. I love watching the ease in which you work with. Stay safe.

@bieuxyongson 2 жыл бұрын

I am just new to bonsai. This was the best video for a beginner. Your explanations are simple and you make it like a conversation. I can hardly wait to start. Thank you. I'm looking forward to viewing your other videos.

@claydupuy7327 Жыл бұрын

You don’t talk to much. So fascinating to watch and so helpful. Thanks you.

@mikeemmons1079 3 жыл бұрын

I found you just in time for my local stores to put those trees on Rescue Discount. Thanks!

@brucestradingcards6211 4 жыл бұрын

I have 100's of these growing wild in the flower beds. I sell them for this purpose. People love them. Thank you. I had no idea the cuttings would grow. I'm retired so I haven't noticed the lockdown. I hope you're very well. 🙏

@jhanks2012 4 жыл бұрын

"lockdown" lol please use the quotes if you're going to use that word. there is no official (enforceable) lockdown in place.

@rodv4 6 ай бұрын

This is a master class on Alberta Spruce. I honestly enjoyed every minute of this video. His calm and quiet demeanor, and his encouraging words make you feel like you can create your own masterpiece by calmly and slowly following his instructions and principles. One of the best videos on making Spruce Bonsai by far! ❤

@adamrodgers9175 3 жыл бұрын

Trimming and leaving smaller branches is just like trimming down below for guys, Makes it look bigger 😆😆. The ending result literally looks like an older tree, that's awesome.

@maanjezus8622 4 жыл бұрын

Loving these trees. I can imagine myself sitting beneath them and reading a book.

@edsonlopes434 3 жыл бұрын

Bonsai is the art of cutting, you have to be brave and go for it!!!

@coreymcgee8283 4 жыл бұрын

Love formal uprights! Very independent, bold, majestic, just like in nature.

@CantGetRight911 4 жыл бұрын

Always a wonder to watch Peter at work. Please do follow-up series on the maintenance, care and overall progression of this beautiful Alberta Spruce. As you progress up the Spruce, I am making decisions as to which branches to cut and using your choices as affirmation, lol.

@asmolbean9300 4 жыл бұрын

Just found this channel, it's amazing. Your narration really makes this the best bonsai channel, I could fall asleep listening to you work.

@paulwhittaker5195 Жыл бұрын

I became disabled 2yrs ago. Since then I haven't been able to do any hobbies that I normally did. After finding this video you have given me a challenge that I look forward to. Thank you very much for the wonderful information you have given. I never thought I would do anything like this.

@Arnoldbonsai75 3 жыл бұрын

You are the best bonsai tutor I’d ever seen. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. God bless you and your family.

@BusyBeaver22 4 жыл бұрын

That was great. I really enjoyed the whole process how you took your time and walked us through the steps. I have one of these my wife bought last year for Christmas and says I can do what’s to want with it. I think I might have to try this

@conspiraterry7393 4 жыл бұрын

yesterday I went to lowes to buy a spruce and a mugo pine to play with. The line was 30 people long (all 6 feet apart of coarse) outside the store just to get in! Your videos are such a help during this ridiculous lockdown. Thank you so much Mr Chan!

@lindarodman5014 4 жыл бұрын

looks like bonsai teaches patience in more ways than one...stay safe!

@batman.smilin 2 жыл бұрын

Just starting to learn about Bonsai, and of all the videos I have watched I enjoy your videos the most. You explain your thought process and why you are doing what you are doing, not just “snip snip there you go”. Thank you for the time you spend helping others learn and understand the art.

@francaevans4326 3 жыл бұрын

Love you’re philosophy on how you teach, I wish more teachers encouraged the freedom of expression. Thank you, you’re awesome😀

@cwbrooks13 3 жыл бұрын

you have inspired me to take up bonsai as a hobby and I love it! I'm learning so much from these videos, so thank you for putting out this content.

@louisetwinberrow5508 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your videos. I really look forward to them. Love the style of the formal up right tress that you did today they look stunning x

@patriciaspell2569 3 жыл бұрын

My health problems keep me from doing outside gardening, so I just use our deck, for container gardening. Bonsai is therapy for me. Thank you.

@SilverbackWrestling Жыл бұрын

Just got into bonsai and your videos are by far my favorite

@nailbendert4569 4 жыл бұрын

I'm making one. Thank you Mr. Chan for the lesson. Reminds me of a giant Redwood but miniature. Some have dead tops and they look interesting

@ashleeaustin358 3 жыл бұрын

There are some beautiful little trees where I live. I hate seeing them mowed down. So, I think I'm going to rescue a few and see if I can make some bonsai trees out of them. Thank you for these wonderful videos! Very enlightening! 😊

4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate how you show every step and explain your thinking as you go along! It's extremely helpful for a beginner like me to watch an expert with decades of experience.

@PrairieDancerRose 4 жыл бұрын

You are very fair in showing the different choices that are there. As for the many years you have been doing Bonsai, Have not seen a bad decision nor a bad tree. U always have ended with a very pleasing Bonsai tree. At least for the many years we have watched your videos. Thank-you for your understanding of nature and the nature of trees, and sharing that understanding with us.

@yalungjoerico 4 жыл бұрын

dear peter, your really an artist! great job there! hope one day i can do such simple and yet magnificent work of art. cheers mate!

@mykorizzo6579 4 жыл бұрын

I hope you're keeping well Peter, I would love to see several of the videos you've previously done with a then and now update and how progress with them. Thank you so much Peter!

@andygrontkowski517 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great video. I think that like many others in the comments, I could watch you work all day. Your gentle nature and respect for each plant is evident, and love hearing your thoughts and comments along the way.

@oeufsnstuff.2731 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great informational demonstration of techniques and approaches. Bonsai has three basic technical principles, root work, pruning work, and wiring work. Whats worth pointing out is, In a year, stick to one thing, and you'll make fantastic trees. Working roots, wire, and doing hard cut backs all at once will invariably end the tree.

@dagneytaggart5993 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this awesome video sir! Beautiful trees and I can’t wait to try it myself! I really love the upright form. You’re a great teacher! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!

@ericsmadis 3 жыл бұрын

This is GREAT! My son gave me a blue spruce (one of my two favorite trees) last Christmas and I have kept it in a pot until I could make it bonzai, something I could take with us if and when we move. Thank you!

@ajwadey77 3 жыл бұрын

This guy is very very good at bonsai teachings. Would like to be half as good as him, then i might have a half decent garden. Thank yoh for explaining 👍👍👌

@jonathanaristone2468 4 жыл бұрын

Peter since Alberta is a Canadian province I always wanted one of these trees in my collection. Thanks for making me less conserned about styling one .

@patchoulidragonsblood882 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. This is the most informative video I have seen yet. This cleared up so many questions. I have been paying too much attention to my houseplants and have done all I can to them during this long quarantine. All 200+ have been repotted and trimmed. They look better than ever. But. I need to start a bonsai or I will go crazy.

@sheliaglover565 3 жыл бұрын

I never see them watering Bosnia how often and how much do they get watered

@sheliaglover565 3 жыл бұрын

I think this is something I would really like to try what would be the best plant for me to buy to get started

@sheliaglover565 3 жыл бұрын

Where can you purchase Moss to cover the top?

@mrcool7100 4 жыл бұрын

They are beautiful. They look like my property trees. Except mine are Ponderosa pines and Douglas firs. Sometimes when I do a pine bonsai I think it should resemble the 80 foot trees out side. Then I learn from you. I hope you don’t mind me saying ‘less is more’ every day. You are the Master of Bonsai. Thank you.

@freerangetots9955 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the insights and words of encouragement to try something new. I went to our local garden center and they had some dwarf alberta spruce on clearance so I brought one home and gave it a try...

@lightningslim 4 жыл бұрын

Always wonderful to see your "Process" Peter, it is never "The same" but always consistent! Don't underestimate how much we learn from you. 😀😷

@gustavfranklin 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Peter, thank you, as always. I was wondering, would you consider showing us going from a early styling to more refined? We've seen a lot of first stylings/semi stylings, and a number of maintainance, as well as a few restylings. A few "next step", or late intermediate ones would be wonderful.

@TomTomTomTom538 4 жыл бұрын

I think for this kind of work you're better seeking Bjorn bjorholms videos, he studied refinement for years in japan and has plenty of videos on the subject. Peters expertise lies more in semi trained raw material I think

@robertbrandner 4 жыл бұрын

@@TomTomTomTom538 Peter Chan got tons of prices for his exhibition trees. He's just doing his videos here for "ordinary mortals" as he put it, who are doing bonsai as a hobby.

@gustavfranklin 4 жыл бұрын

@@TomTomTomTom538 thanks but Im familiar with eisei-en, mirai and those guys, but I'd love to see Peter's take as I know he has some spectacular refined ones.

@CalmPlains 4 жыл бұрын

@@gustavfranklin EXACTLY.

@pinuuturner7777 2 жыл бұрын

@@TomTomTomTom538 he has many videos on all stages.

@FIZZYYAM 4 жыл бұрын

Would be great if we can return to this tree in the future for perhaps a lesson in creating pads and ramification?

@CalmPlains 4 жыл бұрын

^ THIS.

@AdrianJNyaoi 4 жыл бұрын

If it doesn't got sold.

@eriosyce688 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Making pads especially.

@zackwells9427 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome idea! Don't sell them! I would love to see a video on pad development

@MaggYela 3 жыл бұрын

Hope u can make a part 2, the continuation. Please

@marlaseegerstein3158 3 жыл бұрын

I love watching you work and seeing you vision come to life

@edlacap3714 Жыл бұрын

Thanks to KZfaq we can enjoy watching all over the world talented people in all kinds of different knowledge.

@sagebonsai 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely stunning, you did great work with these two Alberta Spruce tree's.

@IlkkaVuoristo 4 жыл бұрын

Those are some amazing trees when it takes so little time. Practice practice practice shows in the skill. ps. "I'm going to do it for the heck of it" is now an official bonsai principle... :D