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Making FPS Games in Python

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@blendernoob64
@blendernoob64 11 ай бұрын
I think one reason why people are interested in python game engines is because there is so much job opportunities for python developers. Learning how to program by making games is an awesome way to learn a language and if you know python, you can find jobs for almost any industry.
@jcdentonunatco
@jcdentonunatco 6 ай бұрын
its interesting for sure, but python is actually one of the worst languages to make a game or game engine in. The reason being is that it runs up to 100x times slower than the current game engine standard language, C++. Is it possible to use Python, for sure. But should you? Not unless its purely for educational purposes
@usser-505
@usser-505 6 ай бұрын
@@jcdentonunatco the original point was a bit different, don't you think?
@calebgates280
@calebgates280 6 ай бұрын
@@jcdentonunatcoo😅p
@ContentBeachYoga-cw1op
@ContentBeachYoga-cw1op 5 ай бұрын
"for any industr-" OSDEV:
@geliussun
@geliussun 5 ай бұрын
@@jcdentonunatco my brother in Christ that was the OP point - you can use it to make learning more fun and engaging
@cryptigo
@cryptigo 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, you can create almost anything in any programming language. I use both C++ and Python, and while C++ is faster, Python is much less stressful to work with. Choose the programming language that you enjoy working with and know the best
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. And Rust has been getting some game dev treatment too with the Bevy Engine, as well as other games with custom engines written in the language.
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 6 ай бұрын
Working with python code: 🥰 Working with software written in python: ⏳⏳⏳⏳⏳⌛💀
@demonman1234
@demonman1234 5 ай бұрын
@@revimfadli4666Exactly how I feel running my highly unoptimized test code… LOL
@ChumpRumpkis
@ChumpRumpkis 3 ай бұрын
i use blitz3d
@Mcgif21
@Mcgif21 8 күн бұрын
Yeah and considering that being most the games you’ll be making with Python anyway will be immensely “indie” to say the least, I don’t see an issue with using it to make one.
@faultboy
@faultboy Жыл бұрын
This is illegal, please stop the development and pick a purely compiled language, the PCG (Programmers Control Group) is already informed and will be taking appropriate steps.
@davidfinley6708
@davidfinley6708 11 ай бұрын
Don’t be a f@g
@lulCwrld
@lulCwrld 10 ай бұрын
I smell a gay boo 😅
@MorrisseyMuse
@MorrisseyMuse 10 ай бұрын
What?! lol
@timeparadox_3243
@timeparadox_3243 6 ай бұрын
C++ OpenGL squad incoming
@ianweckhorst3200
@ianweckhorst3200 6 ай бұрын
>:)
@yammerttv
@yammerttv 6 ай бұрын
I am technically a contributor to the Ursina engine, as I made some of the more main documentation for a lot of the classes (which the maintainer didn't want to add, and I had to fight to add in basic documentation)
@duduken20
@duduken20 7 күн бұрын
So that's why Ursina documentation is so bland. When even the main guy doesn't want to add pages to it's own wiki, it gets harder for the community to embrace such tech.
@YonnjiNyyoka
@YonnjiNyyoka 11 ай бұрын
TF2 remake in Panda3D is a proof that you can make a game with any level of detail and quality in Python, because the core of those engines are written in C++. I'm also working on a TPS game in Python and Panda3D.
@rubixmc7320
@rubixmc7320 10 ай бұрын
I love how panda is literally made in c++ ….
@sauce6534
@sauce6534 6 ай бұрын
@@rubixmc7320tired of nerds glazing c++ like python wasn’t built around it entirely lol like what point are you trying to make 🤓🤓🤓🤓
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 6 ай бұрын
​@@sauce6534the fact that python needs compiled libs written in c++🤓🤓🤓
@ACMBitz7
@ACMBitz7 6 ай бұрын
@@rubixmc7320 Wow really? It's almost like all modules are made in c++!
@________----------.........
@________----------......... 6 ай бұрын
@@sauce6534 python is slower
@gabrielperano
@gabrielperano Жыл бұрын
Been looking into coding with python for basic games, as I already know how to code with it & cannot be assed to learn a whole new language, thank you for posting this video, very informative
@Hacktheplanet_
@Hacktheplanet_ 6 ай бұрын
You can code in most languages if you know one. They are all the same. The computer is just taking instructions.
@demonman1234
@demonman1234 5 ай бұрын
@@Hacktheplanet_The main concept is similar: functions, variables, data types, etc, just relearning the nuances of different languages is definitely tedious… (trust me.. I’ve done it too many times). However, if you know Java, you pretty much know C# and vice versa. Very similar languages.
@Xalkomak347
@Xalkomak347 3 ай бұрын
I just wrote the core logic for "Rock, Paper, Scissors" in Python so I can reuse it in my main game, and now I get this video recommended. Coincidence? I think not!
@OneSilentGuy
@OneSilentGuy Жыл бұрын
Very interesting vid, the editing is great and the way that you cover the topic is great. Very good vid.
@progress_games
@progress_games Жыл бұрын
Really good video! Whenever anyone talks about pygame's speed I always imagine dafluffypotato coming back with the 'uhh, actually...' lmao
@brokenportals
@brokenportals Жыл бұрын
He's definitely a lot more informative on the subject of Python Game Development than I am. But I figured that since 3D shooters aren't as explored as much in Python I thought I'd throw my hat in the ringer.
@mokouu
@mokouu 2 ай бұрын
For any category X, you'll always hear, 'Python is terrible for X.' Yet, you’ll find projects where Python performs X better than you ever imagined. People undermine it because they don't get its philosophy: simple is better than complex. That's why, despite the apparent hate, it's actually a reflection of its success. If performance is an issue, just write the boilerplate and hard logic in C, compile it to a nice .pyd, and get back to your work. Simple, right? p.s:Amazing video, very detailed! got confused with the difference in content with the rest of your videos lol
@CyrillKR
@CyrillKR Жыл бұрын
Python is a very useful language and its philosophy for keeping simplicity (simple doesn't mean easy, you still need to put in effort with rather complex systems) makes it a great scripting and prototyping tool. I believe that it's a great tool for learning rudimentary game logic programming, game design with coding and project organization. There's a great channel called Coder Space which is worth shouting out, there's a lot of great in-depth "walkthroughs", like creating ray-casting engines like in Wolfenstein 3D and Doom using Pygame. I believe that anyone putting an effort in making a simple shooter in Python will have a much easier time migrating to "proper" game engines later on. Maybe even designing their own engine in a lower level language.
@brokenportals
@brokenportals Жыл бұрын
Of course. Even with the addition of libraries, you still have to be realistic as to what can actually be done with it. Godot is a fantastic alternative since it has a language with some syntax that's similar to Python and supports other languages.
@MeltedIce_
@MeltedIce_ Жыл бұрын
no way you're this underrated, great video 👍
@MManel
@MManel 5 ай бұрын
Man , you told everything I think python is fantastic , however , lacks something in gaming , i hope soon may be came some kind of ( update , or another app that can make possible write a full game with greatest graphics all only with python . but for now , Thank you very much , for provide such useful information and video. Many thanks ...
@Blind_Hawk
@Blind_Hawk 6 ай бұрын
Very good video and helpful for people who like to learn more about game development.
@1ups_15
@1ups_15 Жыл бұрын
I just checked and SFML also exists in python, maybe you could have spoken about it, really great video nonetheless :)
@omiorahman6283
@omiorahman6283 10 ай бұрын
The pysfml is not sparking recently it’s abandoned so far
@fcanudo_
@fcanudo_ 9 ай бұрын
Adding to the list of those you mentioned in the video, there's also Raylib in which there's a language binding for pretty much everything, including python
@Sasha_e_sasho_anima
@Sasha_e_sasho_anima Ай бұрын
Yoo that game is fire💀
@lifeland9004
@lifeland9004 Жыл бұрын
3:33 Panda3d isn't really outdated. It's continued to receive updates throughout the years, and then you can also link to other libraries (whether they were designed around panda3d or not) to increase it's functionallity. I.E. bullet physics and complexPBR. It's just that it might look primitive because it's more up to the user to make something look nice. As a metaphor: On a sliding scale from Raw ingredients to Microwave dinner, Panda3d is closer to raw ingredients while engines like unity are closer to the middle. While it's more up to the user's skill to create something amazing, it's far easier to create exactly what you have in mind, while with unity, it takes more effort to create something substantially different. (I.E. super weird non-Euclidean graphics.)
@brokenportals
@brokenportals Жыл бұрын
It's true you can increase its capabilities. But almost no one who wants to develop games is doing it. In the case of creativity, it just boils down to the creator at the end of the day. Plenty of amazing and unique experiences have been made with unity and unreal.
@JonaMost007
@JonaMost007 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking this was made by a well know youtuber but no keep it up i love this❤
@Doomsdayparade
@Doomsdayparade Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of making things as optimized as possible. I'm a bigger fan of pushing the limits and seeing what can be done.
@Snoroz
@Snoroz 23 күн бұрын
Both can be achieved at the same time.
@evhann
@evhann 6 ай бұрын
Hello from a dev of the game at 6:45
@moony_otter
@moony_otter 6 ай бұрын
Damn, no respect for Blender Game Engine, or its community-made fork, UPBGE (Uchronia Project) I'm actually developing my own FPS meant to have an easy to play, hard to master build like Ultrakill and TF2, inspired by Pizza Tower mostly. BGE/UPBGE uses Python for its logic and scripting, while the rendering engine uses OpenGL and C#, I think. It's been fun to make my own systems in Python and I hope to make a game that shows that you CAN make a dynamic, fast-paced FPS game using Python for scripting! Awesome video, keep up the good work :)
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 6 ай бұрын
Wasn't aware of it at the time. But it does show how much was created in the background using Python without my knowledge. Your project sounds really promising. Keep me posted.
@jonatan1265
@jonatan1265 Жыл бұрын
love that youtube thinks this is a minecarft video
@professionalshitposter6897
@professionalshitposter6897 Жыл бұрын
The video's creator has to set the game being played manually. There is no automated system for this
@vignesh306
@vignesh306 3 ай бұрын
​​@@professionalshitposter6897 Shut up, it's detected automatically
@CopaDotsSpot
@CopaDotsSpot Ай бұрын
What game is it, do you know? It looks cool as heck.
@SAYHI2JAMMY
@SAYHI2JAMMY 6 ай бұрын
great video ! python/panda3D is what i started out trying to learn before moving onto other weird languages/engines ♥ still hoping/waiting for a darkbasic (pro) video :)
@FinFET
@FinFET 6 ай бұрын
2:38 LoL, thats my game =)
@Mandaw
@Mandaw Жыл бұрын
Very cool, thanks for featuring me :)
@brokenportals
@brokenportals Жыл бұрын
You're welcome man. Hope to see more future projects from you.
@mci122
@mci122 Жыл бұрын
bro got a shoutout
@maestro_playa
@maestro_playa Жыл бұрын
Games in python (in my opinion) are at max a Doom copy and at minimum any 2d (topdown or some other type) game, otherwise it will have less performance then other languages
@mci122
@mci122 Жыл бұрын
it's not
@mci122
@mci122 11 ай бұрын
@@riverfreeland5146yeah, not python means low performance and unable to create AAA games. Just depends how much works you paying
@Fluid_Genius
@Fluid_Genius 11 ай бұрын
Wow that TF2 clone looks incredible.
@user-fu6uy3br8z
@user-fu6uy3br8z Жыл бұрын
Hi great vid. Very helpful! ❤
@mesi69420
@mesi69420 Ай бұрын
an alternative would've been UPBGE but that mostly focuses more on visual scripting than actuall python. but its still powerfull since in runs in blender
@jajoothecoolman
@jajoothecoolman 9 күн бұрын
ULTRAKILL 🤤
@Johnny31323
@Johnny31323 9 күн бұрын
The reason Python is not mainly used for making Games, is the same reason Autohotkey is not being used for the same purpose. The reason is simple, No game engine so far has been made to be user friendly. Unity is very and i mean "very" user friendly. Neither Python nor Autohotkey or i guess Lua/Rust have any sort of game engines pre-built that you can use- to have an easier time making a game. - Also, even if there is a simple game engine, it's often made towards the developer of said "game engine", and not the community, again making it not user friendly. But all these languages are very capable, it's just that the community said, C# and C or C+ or C++ is the way to go. Similar situation to AV1 vs JPEG lossless and JPEG XL. where both have a purpose, but community liked AV1 more even if JPEG lossless is not bad, and often better than AV1 in encoding an assortment of images.
@mrcafe3x_
@mrcafe3x_ 3 ай бұрын
"making fps games in python" Ram: Please don't
@jimmy21584
@jimmy21584 2 ай бұрын
I’m a fan of Python and so is John Carmack. These days I’d rather crack out a fun game with less code in less time, with some performance penalty, than use something lower level like c++. And I’ve been making console games in C/C++ for decades. I don’t think I would use either of these 2 engines; I would write my own bindings over a base engine in C++ and do all the high-level logic in Python. Or just use Godot; it’s near enough to Python for me.
@ZedTheThrid
@ZedTheThrid 22 күн бұрын
8:09 of course you can run DOOM on python
@Garfield_Minecraft
@Garfield_Minecraft 3 ай бұрын
after i learned c and c++ i started talking thing like python, and javascript are slow html isn't real programming language. so yeah LOL, then back to python and it isn't bad.. my FPS in PYGAME!
@MacMiggity
@MacMiggity 4 ай бұрын
Ogre3d with python was king
@acethemain7776
@acethemain7776 4 ай бұрын
apparently assetto corsa's apps (customisable ui elements) are made in python
@vortexstudios_echo
@vortexstudios_echo 2 ай бұрын
im making a game engine that uses python (for now at leasst) on the user side, my main goal is so people can learn python while having fun
@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w
@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w 6 ай бұрын
"the reason python isn't used for game design is performance" has always made me wonder why people use python for machine learning considering how they require performance.
@marwan7614
@marwan7614 6 ай бұрын
Because Wrappers, all ML libs in python are wrappers, they just an interface invoking a compiled C/C++ Code.
@Manlikerik8
@Manlikerik8 4 ай бұрын
Everything fast in python was written in c++
@KucheKlizma
@KucheKlizma 2 ай бұрын
In my understanding Python and C are both extremely slow for games by modern standards since they run on the CPU. If you want to be writing a fast game I suspect you'll need to talk to the GPU at some point with a dedicated language such as GLSL, HLSL or whatever. Just like how if you want to use a relational database, you will probably either be writing in SQL or using an ORM that does the SQL for you, at which point the Python vs C++ is a bit of a false dilemma. If you will be doing a lot of CPU heavy computation you might want to perhaps do it in C or use something like numpy which is python bindings for a c library. Then there's the whole jit vs interpreted problem. However python is memory safe, and that's not something to be underestimated. I believe the benefits of using Godot is that you also get a scene editor and various other out of the box tooling and a bunch of ready to use opinionated engines you can tune and use for your project, so it really depends what you need in the end.
@Antagon666
@Antagon666 Ай бұрын
Yes, game written in python can infact achieve a single FPS.
@MichaelShaw-dk5gm
@MichaelShaw-dk5gm Ай бұрын
I use python notepad is that good
@gaxkiller
@gaxkiller 3 ай бұрын
"Making an operating system in excel" Seriously, python developers are ready to use this language EVERYWHERE it should never be used, this new generation of "developers" is going to be something else ...
@Voxelstice
@Voxelstice Жыл бұрын
title is a bit "clickbaity", but I knew a fps in python just wasn't mostly possible good video anyway
@Rptr797-wn4iu
@Rptr797-wn4iu 3 ай бұрын
Bro I know that first game was ultra kill but what is that second game, like ultra kill with reshade? No seriously what was that second game calleed
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 3 ай бұрын
Severed Steel. Fantastic game worth checking out.
@Doomslayer151
@Doomslayer151 2 ай бұрын
Next up: remastering the gta5 in python(like 5 yrs old)
@ricardofilipe8973
@ricardofilipe8973 6 ай бұрын
Not only performance but C++ forces you to write better software
@us3r158
@us3r158 Жыл бұрын
NO NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
@DhruvKumar-di9ew
@DhruvKumar-di9ew 3 ай бұрын
what game you are playing in the background?
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 3 ай бұрын
Ultrakill.
@famaral42
@famaral42 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the summary. Do you know how easy/is capable to deploy for Android?
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 11 ай бұрын
Hmm, tbh I'm not sure how viable it is for Android development, if you're using panda or ursina that is. But alternatively, Godot is an option worth looking into, and it's native language's syntax (some of it) isn't too far apart from python.
@alexstone691
@alexstone691 6 ай бұрын
You could always just do performant things in c/c++ and everything else in python
@solkun11
@solkun11 3 ай бұрын
is that what's under spy's mask??
@zaixrx
@zaixrx Ай бұрын
why?
@AgentBurgers
@AgentBurgers 5 ай бұрын
Battlefield 2 was made in Python
@jamesc9168
@jamesc9168 11 ай бұрын
Isn't Ursina just a wrapper around Panda3d?
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 11 ай бұрын
Yes. But you can add more around it to expand its capabilities and use it like a game engine. You just don't see a lot of people develop games with it because of more popular options.
@bitpilot79
@bitpilot79 3 ай бұрын
He says it also in the video.
@marwan7614
@marwan7614 6 ай бұрын
I don't see the point about python game dev makes you learn programming more that using Godot, python game engines are so abstracted that they are akin to Godot without a GUI interface, In Godot you're still gonna mess with code though GDscript(Vars,Loops,math,getters,setter) plus better OOP and static typing.
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 6 ай бұрын
People who use Godot are more focused on learning game development, where programming is a part of it but not necessarily the priority, a means to an end basically. But Python is a transferable language across different IT departments that people can use to learn programming across the board. It ultimately depends on your goals.
@muhammadyusoffjamaluddin
@muhammadyusoffjamaluddin 6 ай бұрын
Ah... Python, a Joker with C++ mask. I have to pay my respect for them, (Press F). Truly master of disguise... and ignorant XD
@RetroMonster64
@RetroMonster64 2 ай бұрын
bro this is not FPS , this is top down shooter game lol
@Kaleboi35291
@Kaleboi35291 4 ай бұрын
whats the game in the 2nd clip?
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 4 ай бұрын
Severed Steel.
@hersical
@hersical Жыл бұрын
ultrakill was made with unity
@brokenportals
@brokenportals Жыл бұрын
And Severed Steel was made with Unreal. Some of the best indie Shooters on the market. It would be really cool to see something similar written with a python based engine or framework, within its capacity of course.
@hersical
@hersical Жыл бұрын
@@brokenportals yes a python based engine seems way more plausible
@MAXRAY-bw9kv
@MAXRAY-bw9kv 6 ай бұрын
​@@brokenportalswhat's the point waste time on c++ then have less time on models? Using pre assists make your game looks generic.
@komram4396
@komram4396 9 күн бұрын
What the name of a game on 2:19?
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 9 күн бұрын
Severed Steel.
@komram4396
@komram4396 8 күн бұрын
Thanks
@i_pew_pew
@i_pew_pew 6 ай бұрын
what game is that in the background
@WorryCard
@WorryCard 19 күн бұрын
1:15 bro didn't realize godots language is a variation of python
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 19 күн бұрын
@@WorryCard No, it's a different language.
@WorryCard
@WorryCard 19 күн бұрын
@@brokenportals VARIATION/built off
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 19 күн бұрын
@@WorryCard I see. My glasses were dirty when I initially read your comment.
@WorryCard
@WorryCard 19 күн бұрын
@@brokenportals it's all good man
@Starmanfansunofficial
@Starmanfansunofficial 5 ай бұрын
❤❤
@thegarsa1620
@thegarsa1620 6 ай бұрын
whats that game called at 0:42
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 6 ай бұрын
Severed Steel.
@Plumswillow
@Plumswillow 4 ай бұрын
slab marksman detected.
@frogge3978
@frogge3978 6 ай бұрын
whats the game at 5:48?
@frogge3978
@frogge3978 6 ай бұрын
oh wait the game is DUGA
@MrSkeleton14
@MrSkeleton14 6 ай бұрын
Glatopt?
@user-kp5wb7np4u
@user-kp5wb7np4u 4 ай бұрын
use ursina srsly dont lsiten to other stuff jsut use ursina
@Vexcenot
@Vexcenot 6 ай бұрын
why does the script feels ai generated as hell
@Kaiyokinn0_0
@Kaiyokinn0_0 Жыл бұрын
What game is that in the bg
@brokenportals
@brokenportals Жыл бұрын
Ultrakill and Severed Steel. For the thumbnail, it's Team Fortress 2.
@NoobSvCy
@NoobSvCy Жыл бұрын
@@brokenportals thank you!
@pringleboyo2460
@pringleboyo2460 3 ай бұрын
What was the first game he showed?
@pringleboyo2460
@pringleboyo2460 3 ай бұрын
In the background
@brokenportals
@brokenportals 3 ай бұрын
@@pringleboyo2460 Ultrakill.
@kezif
@kezif 6 ай бұрын
technically python is C framework..
@halsaufschneider1446
@halsaufschneider1446 10 ай бұрын
Ok, so Python is slower than other Languages when it comes to 3D gaming. But how much slower is it? Lets say we make a game like Quake 3. Its a small arena shooter. If we get 200 FPS with Quake 3 C# or C++. Then how much FPS would we get with Python? 120FPS? The generalizing sentence of "its slower" doesn't really help. I looked this up and i found no actual comparing 3D Perfromance Data what so ever. I even asked Chat A.I. :P If we talk about ~25% less performance, then this is still not that big of a deal. Depending on the game you are making. If you are super efficient and trained in Python "only". You can realease the game/product sooner and make some profit, instead of switching to a different language you know nothing about. If you wan't to make the next Metroid Dread 2.5D sidescroller. Pyhton might be enough. If you want to make the next Crysis in terms of graphics, well, you better start asking the question "can it run Pysis".... because your ~25% less performance just bottlenecked your entire endeavor. But we don't really know that, do we? Because we have no actual 3D Game comparison Data? No one took the same assets and made the exact same game/benchmark in Python and in another language to compare. Python is used for A.I. stuff. Would be interesting to know, if that could be used to make Python written games run faster.
@khalilshew4924
@khalilshew4924 4 ай бұрын
Also you have to take into account that most languages has the same fundamentals so if someone is a great programmer with one language then they could more easily learn a new language faster than someone with no experience at all can
@PySnek
@PySnek 3 ай бұрын
Python is about 8 times slower using for example the raylib wrapper compared to C++. And pygame is much much worse than that.
@LinusTurvulds2
@LinusTurvulds2 5 ай бұрын
I don't know that joke or what but bro really thinks that gdscript is python 💀💀💀
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 4 ай бұрын
I think he meant a python extension
@LinusTurvulds2
@LinusTurvulds2 4 ай бұрын
​@@Mik-kv8xx I apologize then for my comment
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 4 ай бұрын
@@LinusTurvulds2 based 🍷
@budgetarms
@budgetarms Жыл бұрын
Basically you are say, use a game engine, or learn c++. Lmao. C++ is not that hard, .... It only takes a year to know most of the basics. And another year to know graphics.
@PySnek
@PySnek 3 ай бұрын
It doesn't take a year to learn the basics. You find great tutorials that take about 10 hours and cover nearly everything. Someone motivated should be able to learn the basics in about a month.
@budgetarms
@budgetarms 3 ай бұрын
@@PySnek Define the basics for C++, ... It would not take someone 10 hours of watching to cover nearly everything (except if you are only talking about covering the basics. Yeah, it's not really basic what I learn, I mean are smartpointers, lamba's basic, etc basic? For me it's basic, but that's because it's so easy.
@patrickplus9815
@patrickplus9815 Жыл бұрын
Please dont pin me
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