Making Medieval Gingerbread
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Medieval Gingerbread
ORIGINAL 14TH CENTURY RECIPE (From Curye on Inglysch)
To make gingerbrede. Take goode honye & clarefie it on the fere, & take fayre paynemayn or wastel brede & grate it, & caste it into the boylenge hony, & stere it well togyder faste with a sklyse (spatula) that it bren not to the vessel. & thanne take it doun and put therin ginger, longe pepper & saundres, & tempere (mix) it up with thin handes; & than put them to a flatt boyste (pan) & straw (scatter) thereon sugar & pick therin clowes rounde aboute by the egge (edge) and in the mydes yf it plece you &c.
MODERN RECIPE
INGREDIENTS
- 1 Cup (330) Honey
- 1/2 Loaf (250g) Dry White Bread or Bread Crumbs
- 1 tablespoon Dried Ginger
- 3/4 tsp Long Pepper
- 1/2 tsp Sandalwood
- 1/4 Cup (50g) or less Sugar. Enough for sprinkling
- Several Whole Cloves
- Gold Leaf (Optional)
METHOD
1. Pour the honey into a saucepan and set over medium heat until boiling. Add the bread crumbs, but only enough to have the mixture come together. This could be considerably less that the full 250g depending on the dryness of the bread. Mix until homogenous.
2. Remove the pan from the heat and stir in the ginger, long pepper and sandalwood. Then turn it out onto a piece of parchment and roll out to desired thickness. Cover and let cool for several hours or overnight.
3. Once cool, sprinkle sugar on top and cut into whatever shape you like. Garnish with whole cloves (removing them before eating; they will add flavor) and gold.
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@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you stand on the debate: Hard Gingerbread Biscuit or Soft Gingerbread Cake?
@rejamrejam 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta be the biscuits
@lairdcummings9092 3 жыл бұрын
Either will do, thank you very much. But, if pressed, biscuit please.
@NotTheWheel 3 жыл бұрын
Hard biscuit.
@rathervalor 3 жыл бұрын
while the biscuits were more fun to decorate, the cake definitely is more pleasant to eat
@madamel.6756 3 жыл бұрын
Biscuits!
@justthinking526 3 жыл бұрын
Max" which is probably why I don't get invited to many dinner parties". Me: adding Max to the top of my ' who I'd invite to dinner ' list
@rachel_sj 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say, mumbling to myself in my head, “...I’d invite Max to all my dinner parties”
@yokaiofwater 3 жыл бұрын
He's got my invite.
@inakiaraluze4528 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@lizc835 3 жыл бұрын
I'd invite him too! He'd be a lovely guest!
@ADHDqueenB 3 жыл бұрын
Those people are missing out! I have a feeling after Covid clears up, he's going to be overwhelmed with dinner invites!
@booradley1138 3 жыл бұрын
The gingerbread man walks into the gingerbread house. He sees that the material of the house is the same as his flesh. Is he made of house, or is the house made of flesh? He screams, for he does not know.
@justthinking526 3 жыл бұрын
Franz? Is that you?
@stargirl7646 3 жыл бұрын
I always think of that comic lol
@ToniHinton 3 жыл бұрын
And now is the time on Sprockets when we dance!
@ericthompson3982 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, that was good.
@blakexu4943 3 жыл бұрын
The gingerbread man is not of man or house but a horny devil is he.
@SocialStudiesMrStockford Жыл бұрын
I got to go to one of the oldest, still functioning gingerbread factories in Europe, in Toruń, Poland. They've got a whole museum. Bottom level is medieval themed, top level is industrial revolution. Great visit if you can
@kyrab7914 3 жыл бұрын
"clove is really really strong". Me: flashes back to this morning when I spilled a bunch of cloves in my pancakes "that is correct". Also I feel oddly guilty and also grateful that I live in a time when I can have cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, and chocolate in my peasant food.
@user-eg7cd1si7b 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, Max’s kitchen didn’t smell like Garum.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 it’s been a while
@prestontucker6171 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory Since I could...hold my head up high! It's been a while!
@katiearbuckle9017 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory I always wondered what the combo smell of Garum & Asfettaida would be ...?
@goldilox369 3 жыл бұрын
@@katiearbuckle9017 probably me, on my period, after not taking a bath for a week. LOLOL, sorry about that on a cooking channel. 🐟☣️
@Freya27395 3 жыл бұрын
lmao. Since that video I call my green smoothie garum. its healthy but gross and smelly
@thesexybatman263 3 жыл бұрын
"Today's gingerbread ain't your mother's gingerbread." It's probably your great-great-great-great-grandmother's gingerbread.
@zuhayrah 3 жыл бұрын
x10
@ayla5094 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore you, “Gingerbread was neither GINGER nor BREAD....DISCUSS!”. Your videos are such a precise balance of history, humor, and hunger cravings. You make such fascinating content and I appreciate you exist, you deserve all the abundance and joy in the world; I hope you and your loved ones are happy and healthy. 💙
@ksmith3599 2 жыл бұрын
Agree..love the humor
@susan3200 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, and lots of people agree.
@michellebender9434 Жыл бұрын
Linda Richman would be very proud.
@joshuabekel9700 Жыл бұрын
Coffee Talk. 😆
@multifariousgemini Жыл бұрын
I concur ❤❤❤
@mariapankowska9750 3 жыл бұрын
I actually come from Toruń. Polish word for gingerbread is "piernik" an the word "pierny" is a bit archaic expression for spicy/peppery, because in torunski piernik, amongst other spices there was actually pepper. Greetings from Poland and happy Christmas time!
@DrLesleyStevens 3 жыл бұрын
I see your campaign to bring back the use of "bedight" is going well.
@mariedinkler8542 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lizlawley6680 3 жыл бұрын
Past tense of 'bedeck', innit? 😁
@DerptyDerptyDUM 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@TiggerIsMyCat 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear bedight, it always brings up the poem Eldorado, by Poe, because I love Poe, and that poem was my only exposure to the word up until these videos, and it also happens to be the very first thing in the poem. "Gaily bedight, a gallant knight in sunshine and in shadow, had journeyed long, singing a song, in search of Eldorado"
@candycoating2358 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all are soooooo nuts! My kind of people.
@MrAranton 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder: Maybe in the medieval "ginger" was a more generic term than it is today. In my native language German, "Pfeffer" used to refer to any kind of spices that packed heat, and not just what we know as pepper today. Perhaps medieval English referred to many 'hot' spices as "ginger" even they had nothing to with ginger as we understand the term today?
@jaysea5939 3 жыл бұрын
I'd wondered if it was ginger in the British sense of "red", especially when Max mentioned the sandlewood just adding a reddish color. So maybe gingerbread being any reddish spiced dessert bread?
@alexsis1778 3 жыл бұрын
That's quite likely. In this era there is very little standardization and a lot of recipes were created simply from the description of what someone had elsewhere but using local ingredients. Its part of why you'll often find multiple things under the same name but with very different recipes as he's demonstrated in some of his other episodes. Cooking from a written recipe would be incredibly unusual and even those rarely include any sort of detailed instructions. So even if they were using the same ingredients you could still end up with wildly different results.
@MossyMozart 3 жыл бұрын
@MrAranton - And "plums" meant any dried fruit.
@sion-dafyddlocke9913 3 жыл бұрын
English also shared the same unambiguous use of "pepper," with things like coriander, grains of paradise and eventually even allspice being referred to as peppers continuing through the colonial period. I know that by the Tudor period, "ginger" is used very specifically, and is more frequently in medicinal recipes, but we begin to see references to other recipes within given recipes, much like today where, in the US, we'd call gingerbread spice, "Pumpkin Spice," or y'all would call it "Lebkuchengewurz" (except with the diacritic).
@FlorisGerber 3 жыл бұрын
@@sion-dafyddlocke9913 really? Pumpkin spice is Lebkuchen? I always assumed that "pumpkin spice anything" was that special kind of american taste that also brought us deep fried marsbars... If it is Lebkuchen I might actually dare to try the stuff...
@shylocreek9686 Жыл бұрын
You mention that they probably didn't eat the full cloves, but I think it's in the realm of possibility. Not because I particularly know much about food history, but because it's something that my grandpa picked up because he read somewhere that it was a good natural breath mint and that dentist's used it to numb patients mouths for procedures back in the day. I think he mostly did it for the fun story, but it caught on. I know he started it as a trend and ended up getting several of the old church elders to carry around altoid tins of whole cloves. He tried to get us kids into it, but those are pretty strong sensations for a 6 year old. Though it did eventually get me into enjoying clove flavored gum for nostalgias sake 😊
@BTVRhoenrad 2 жыл бұрын
Just for information: in Germany, a guild was formed for everything and everything was regulated. The best example is the "Reihnheitsgebot" for beer.
@Cadollan 2 жыл бұрын
I am always pleasantly surprised how well Max is pronouncing things in German. It is so much closer than I am used to hear. Regarding "Reinheitsgebot" it says you should not add any "Geferk". As a German, I have no Idea what that is, only a hunch.
@toomanymarys7355 Жыл бұрын
How German. 😆
@ryee86 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who got her BA and MA in linguistics, you would definitely be invited to my dinner parties!! These language things are the things I like to talk at LENGH-TH about
@e.urbach7780 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, we "word nerds" should give more dinner parties ... so that we can invite other "word nerds"!
@Visplight 3 жыл бұрын
Also, everyone will definitely go to HIS dinner parties, because the food's so good.
@alexsis1778 3 жыл бұрын
@@Visplight You certainly never know what will be on the menu. Or if you'll even know what it is.
@justthinking526 3 жыл бұрын
@@Visplight ummmm...
@microtasker 3 жыл бұрын
Ye olde grammar nazi? 🤣
@NickPoeschek 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting linguistic point on what “lengh” could mean. Since you have been jumping around through different eras, you’re actually pretty well placed to notice some of these trends in language usage.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
It’s something I really find interesting, though I have no definite proof that’s the case.
@wildsheepc 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory Did anyone check the OED?
@hanstun1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory Another possibly true/false piece of linguistics. My granny would always say that the word Pepper Cake came from Allspice which is called "Spicepepper" in Swedish and has a "peppery" name in many languages. It tastes a lot like cloves and often replaced it back in the day as it was a LOT cheaper.
@ksbrook1430 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory I appreciate the work you do to translate the texts. But I do not think 'lengh' is related to the '-lenge" in boiling, because the similarity in spelling is not a reliable guide. Spelling was still not standardized at that time. And while we English speakers do like to take long words and shorten them (bus from omnibus; auto from automobile; sync from synchronize), I am doubtful that 'boiling' would need to be shortened.
@pyrrhicvictoly 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory I don't think "boiling" would be shortened to "lengh" because the -(l)ing part is a common suffix. That would be like shortening a word such as "addition" into "-tion" instead of "add". Too many other words share the suffix for it to be clear what the shortened form refers to. But you might have stumbled across something else! According to the OED, -ing as the suffix for present participles came from Old English -ende. "The vowel weakened in late Old English and the spelling with -g began 13c.-14c. among Anglo-Norman scribes who naturally confused it with [-ing suffix for completed or habitual actions]." So perhaps what you're seeing with the spelling of "boylenge" is part of the transition from earlier "boylende"? to modern boiling.
@lilithhellea6954 Жыл бұрын
For i'm from Germany, i do appreciate Max's efforts to prenounce German words and names correctly, and yes. I'm pretty satisfied with his efforts! Max, you did indeed a good job on being accurate!!
@jakubromanowski1207 Жыл бұрын
He did okay with Piernik Toruński too, which I must add, is absolutely delicious.
@MsLeenite 3 жыл бұрын
About the gold leaf: In PL Travers' **Mary Poppins** Jane and Michael are taken to a shop to buy gingerbread, each slab of which is decorated with many gold stars. Later, in one of the curious happenings which were part of the Poppins Experience, they witness Mrs Corry, the proprietor of the shop, assisted by her two very tall daughters and Mary Poppins, pasting the stars in the sky from the top of a lofty ladder. So you see, the gold leaf IS important.
@thestraightroad305 Жыл бұрын
I remember loving that story as a little girl.
@alto19 3 жыл бұрын
it's EXTREMELY validating to see that someone else dreams of owning an antique springerle mold
@ares_ace2896 3 жыл бұрын
My poor mother has to deal with me making round tamales and ye olde gingerbread this Christmas because of you.
@soxpeewee 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds tasty
@PolarBear-rc4ks 3 жыл бұрын
Did she like it?
@gemellodipriapo Жыл бұрын
I've come across an Italian recipe of the period that uses polenta instead of bread crumbs. It also incorporates raisins. it's like a gingery Garibaldi biscuit.
@mastershake8018 3 жыл бұрын
"His guests, on tasting the cake, believed they were experiencing all the delights of heaven." Man... imagine if these medieval folk took a bite of a cheesesteak, their heads would explode.
@SeiichirouUta 3 жыл бұрын
Someone from Nuremberg here. We are still very serious about this! If you want to sell so called "Nürnberger Lebkuchen" they have to be made in (the region of) Nuremberg. Especially famous are the Elisenlebkuchen, which must not contain less then 25% walnuts, hazelnuts and/or almonds and not more than 10% flour or 7,5% starch. Most of the time they are round and the base is a wafer (like a host). The Lebkuchen that comes closest to the gingerbread shown in the video, is brauner Lebkuchen - brown gingerbread. When I think about it, I'd say the clostest thing to the Medieval gingerbread would either be gingerbread hearts (you can get them at almost every fair - no matter which time of the year) or Aachener Printen.
@celestewatson4874 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, to go eat fresh lebkuchen in Nuremberg someday! Cannot even imagine the deliciousness!
@vexaris1890 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that Max didn't mention Aachener Printen since they're so candy-like; hard and brittle.
@dragoncatsage3049 3 жыл бұрын
Good glad to see that Nuremberg aren’t stingy with the walnuts and alternatives hate when I get a cookie and it has like one walnut in it.
@PolarBear-rc4ks 3 жыл бұрын
I love buying those at aldi, so nice 💖💖
@Lynnize 3 жыл бұрын
Ich muss echt mal zur Weihnachtszeit nach Nürnberg. Klingt magisch bei euch da drüben :) Gruß, ein Schwabe.
@annalisette5897 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 'cakey gingerbread' got started in the US because we had molasses and sorghum and the like? My recipe for that calls for a lot of molasses.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Very likely
@Amy_the_Lizard 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in my English class a story we read set in the deep south mentioned a 'cake of sorghum and molasses' and most of the class thought that it meant sorghum flour, and I wound up explaining that it was probably actually referring to sorghum syrup. Apparently none of the other students knew that that was a thing that exists... poor sorghum, people forgot about it...
@plutus2559 3 жыл бұрын
We make soft gingerbread cakes in Sweden too. There's no syrup in my grandma's recipe, but it does have lingonberry jam and filmjölk to make it really moist. Ginger thins broken into pieces on top of a bowl of filmjölk is a real luxury christmas breakfast.
@ragnkja 3 жыл бұрын
@@plutus2559 Lingonberries go very well in spiced cake. In my family we usually add some even though our recipe for “krydderkake” doesn’t call for any.
@kathyp1563 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amy_the_Lizard We have an 1880's living history-type farm here in Dayton, OH area. They make sorghum in the fall.
@wilhelmschmidt7240 3 жыл бұрын
As someone that also perhaps suffers socially from my interest in etymology, I appreciate your devotion to proper translation.
@PackthatcameBack 3 жыл бұрын
I once tried making a gingerbread-spiced (cinnamon, ginger, cloves and cardamom) blueberry cordial. It was really quite good and was rather well-received by my family at christmas.
@cassidy5408 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the most important establishment in the royal medieval household- *The Royal Spicery*
@microtasker 3 жыл бұрын
England literally went to war to gain a hold on the spice market in India.
@cassidy5408 3 жыл бұрын
@@microtasker Yeah, and The Royal Spicery would have been a very valued part of the household because of that. Tbh I find it hilarious that they literally had a whole thing called “The Spicery”.
@oisinholz 3 жыл бұрын
To anyone out there who has never tried Lebkuchen, I HIGHLY recommend trying it. I have the wonderful privilege of having a German father and bah gawd Lebkuchen might be my favourite thing around the holiday season!
@minuteman4199 3 жыл бұрын
My wife's family is German, but she is Canadian and we are Canadian, but every Christmas she gets a box of Lebkuchen sent over from Germany at great expense. To be honest I could take it or leave it. My Christmas must have is short bread and mince tarts.
@hoathanatos6179 3 жыл бұрын
My grandparents were poor Northeastern peasants and so the Bavarian/Franconia Lebkuchen was never something I grew up with. I grew up having lots of different shortbread cookies and nut based cookies. Also fruit dumpling and a Christmas cake made in the shape of a star to symbolize Polaris as it guided those to Bethlehem to see the newly born Jesus. My grandmother would put a baby Jesus in the cake and whoever found it got money.
@crasher4737 3 жыл бұрын
I'm German and I live in the West of Germany. And you'll notice, that most German people don't like *Lebkuchen* that much. Depents of course, on what kind of Lebkuchen you eat. There is a kind that I enjoy; soft Lebkuchen with bitter chocolate. But there's also the less common version; the "hard" version which is mostly made out of beet syrup...so yeah not my favourite. But the soft version is.
@Baccatube79 3 жыл бұрын
See my recipe above, Oisín!
@gatamadriz 3 жыл бұрын
@@crasher4737 My grandfather's housekeeper was from Cologne and she would back cookies each year - including Lebkuchen. They were always leftover lebkuchen - it's an acquired taste. But her stolen was fought over!
@ostanes4145 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Germany. My grandma used to make gingerbread houses for Christmas. One for all 4 of her children families. My aunt continues this also. So this tradition is not dead yet. :)
@wendigo6404 3 жыл бұрын
I like how in the beginning he was like "ginger bread in medieval times was a sad excuse of ginger bread, I have never been more insulted. Let's make it"
@thewhiterabbt 3 жыл бұрын
“i don’t get invited to a lot of dinner parties” i find that extremely hard to believe, max
@Mr_Yod 3 жыл бұрын
I know, right? =)
@phoenixperson8296 3 жыл бұрын
Currently I don't think anyone is getting invited to a lot of dinner parties
@Zelmel 3 жыл бұрын
"Clove is really, really strong." No kidding. The oil from it is used as an anesthetic to this day, particularly in dentistry and such.
@simonederobert1612 3 жыл бұрын
Clove is not used in the USA as an anesthetic, legally. That's because it has not been approved by the FDA as an anesthetic. But, if you are planning a dental visit, or for that matter, a permanent makeup tattoo, such as eye or lip liner (been there, done that), chewing clove gum for the dental work or lip tattoo, or applying clove oil c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y around the eye, may be a smart move.
@user-oq1tr7ys5i 3 жыл бұрын
Tiger balm
@lilly_koii 3 жыл бұрын
that's why I now hate those recipes for ham that have you stick cloves all over it. made Thanksgiving dinner taste like the perfume department!
@sharroon7574 3 жыл бұрын
I have a sensitive tooth and have been chewing a clove every day, it is potent
@claudiachadwick1995 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonederobert1612 Clove oil is quite "hot" and could burn one's delicate eye area. I would dilute clove oil with a carrier oil but the thought of clove oil on my face just sounds scary.
@kaarlimakela3413 3 жыл бұрын
I inherited our springerle rolling pin. Mom always made the little square anise flavored cookies for Christmas since I can remember. Now it's my turn. 👵❤️
@Dragonette29 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Toruń, if you ever get to visit you will love the gingerbread museums! Yes there's more than one, haha
@reneeadams6684 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in my parents' storage we have a German cast iron gingerbread house mold. I remember my dad breaking his toe when he accidentally dropped it when I was a kid. 😬
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch! But cool!
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine 3 жыл бұрын
You know an heirloom is especially good when it's capable of causing injury.
@renpixie 3 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I think that’s why I love my grandmothers meat cleaver.
@fredericapanon207 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, www.Leevalley.com used to have a cast-iron gingerbread mold with a log house on one side and a more traditional house on the other. Definitely toe-breaking candidate as well. Alas, this year they are stocking a gingerbread bundt house mold instead.
@Bluebelle51 3 жыл бұрын
I have several of these molds not bragging, I just thought I was the last person on the planet who wanted them. Mine came from my grandmother and when she passed on, no one wanted them but me, so you understand my delusion
@vjaceslavsavsjaniks6431 3 жыл бұрын
At Christmas in Latvia "piparkukas" pepper cookies can go from little tree-like things to works of art. Also they are hot, sometimes at same level as Asian food.
@essenestephanie 2 жыл бұрын
My mom has a few for specolass cookies from holland
@dittejensen2909 3 жыл бұрын
I was just re-watching this episode and it dawned on me where a Danish expression comes from. It's slightly old-fashioned, but we use "Schlaraffenland" to describe something in excess. This. This is why I love history!
@GetIsekaid 6 ай бұрын
It's a german word though 😁
@madhappy77 3 жыл бұрын
it's wild how just a month or so ago I read a fantastic astrology-focused novella which mentioned Cockaigne as part of the context surrounding the meanings we attribute to Saturn and the Moon, and now Cockaigne came up in your show! Everything is connected in such interesting ways. Thank you so much for this show, I love you man 💗
@FearAbsence 3 жыл бұрын
In Sweden it is also called "Pepper Cookie", "Pepparkaka" in Swedish. I think it's because in older Swedish/Scandinavian, the word "peppar" was used for spices in general, I think. Now "peppar" is "pepper", and we have the word "kryddor" for spices. But I might be totally wrong.
@MrHodoAstartes 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing with German Pfefferkuchen. The terminology around spices was not common knowledge for a long time so everything was "pepper". For the same reason the Hanseatic traders were often called "Pfeffersäcke", pepper bags, for their lucrative spice trade.
@scouttyra 3 жыл бұрын
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@EmjiAmsdaughter 3 жыл бұрын
Åh, jag tänkte precis kommentera om pepparkakor! Du hann först!
@AmandaSmith-kk3hy 3 жыл бұрын
My husband just introduced me to this channel....I SWEAR, I think I've just found my 9 year old son's Twin Soul in this man (cooking, cats, and pokemon). 😳🥰😅
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 sounds like a cool kid.
@user-mr6vu6qz6w 2 жыл бұрын
We still build small gingerbread houses at home around Christmas time (sometimes called "Witch Houses"). You can buy a set in a supermarket, which contains everything you will need. We usually build them together with our family, kids etc. And of course, later we tear them apart and devour them like big hungry giants.
@polarbearsaysyummy5845 9 ай бұрын
My Parents actually found both a mortar and pestle at separate times while hunting for arrowheads in the late 80's or early 90's.
@otterylexa4499 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the filling for English treacle tart,but tastier. Also, the decorative carvings on the stern of a sailing ship was called gingerbread.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
It’s similar actually! I hadn’t thought of that.
@seileach67 3 жыл бұрын
19th century houses' wooden trim as well!
@WastedPo 3 жыл бұрын
That opening "talk amongst yourselves" throwback was like BUTTAH.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Buttah!
@Lucius1958 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory Should've thrown in a reference when you mentioned the Discord channel: *"Cawffee, dawgs, dawghters; y'know, no big whoop..."*
@QueenCityHistory 3 жыл бұрын
As a Jew I can honestly say I know many many...many women just like that. They are so fabulous
@alexh4935 Жыл бұрын
Modern recipes: You really need to use a food scale and weigh your flour. Max Miller: IDK, follow your heart.
@mikemathews9277 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fact that your ability to understand old English into a somewhat modern understanding of it.
@Muskoxing 3 жыл бұрын
My grandparents have had one of those giant antique wooden cookie molds hanging in their house for decades!
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
They’re so amazing!
@Muskoxing 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory Seriously, it's my favourite decorative object in their house. It's about 2 and a half feet tall, in the shape of an old Polish(?) man with a long pipe, a coat, and a big fur hat. No idea where they got it from, I'll have to ask them!
@karengerber8390 3 жыл бұрын
When you learn, please share. Thank you.
@Archphoenix1 3 жыл бұрын
Gingerbread was made with real gingers ,thats why they ate it at Saturnalia .
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
😆
@benderrodriguez142 3 жыл бұрын
The extra souls they carried around added that little extra something to the recipe.
@lisaanderson7128 3 жыл бұрын
So twisted! I love it!
@carolgraczyk2027 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ericthompson3982 3 жыл бұрын
Ginger is brown. We're redheads, so we're safe.
@snorpenbass4196 Жыл бұрын
You should probably look into the history and recipes of Finnish gingerbreads - they're a lot like the modern variety all the way back in the late 18th century, except with a tad more pepper (IIRC) for a spicier burn. Extremely popular among children of the timne.
@Riff.Wraith 3 жыл бұрын
I actually made this exact recipe for one my high school classes! It was a Shakespeare class; there were a number of extra credit projects available for near the end of the semester. One of them (you could only pick one) was to create a pamphlet containing a list of some recipes from his era, as well as an actual preparation of one of the recipes in your pamphlet. This recipe was pretty well received as it was *very* strongly-flavored compared to the other offerings that day (they were things like cheesecake, regular bread, fruit salad, etc.). Watching this video has given me an urge to make this "ginger brede" again some time.
@avidkites 3 жыл бұрын
Blessed are we, with a new TastingHistory video. Now all i need is a Townsends video
@QuiltingCrow 3 жыл бұрын
In Germany, we don't have gingerbread, but Lebkuchen - literally: cake of life. That's because a traditional German Lebkuchen consists of about 30% nuts and seeds, which makes Lebkuchen quite substancial. It also contains several spices and honey.
@miasummer2978 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Germany as a military kid, Lebkuchen was my favorite part of christmas. Much better than when black Peter showed up, hated that.
@LupoSenpai 3 жыл бұрын
the "Leb" part probably comes from the latin libum wich would be a flat bread, the other name for it "Pfefferkuchen" probably originates from the fact that any foreign spice in medieval germany was just called Pfeffer
@miasummer2978 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Black Peter was his name. Think, Krampus.
@jassidoe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I bought some gingerbread from Nürnberg for my family and I nearly offed my granddad. He ate half of the thing and went damn near comatose for the rest of the day. Lying on the couch, not moving a muscle, only breathing and digesting. Ever since then I thought that Tolkien's famous elven bread that could sate your hunger with one bite must have been inspired by gingerbread...
@miasummer2978 3 жыл бұрын
@@LupoSenpai you can find it here in the states at Aldi's grocery stores.
@kelseyjyoung Жыл бұрын
Watching this a year later, I'm wondering if you ever got that mold. 😁
@Just_Sara Жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing, actually.
@katietots89 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's been a year but your Streisand concert reference was perfect! It's one of my mom's favorite recordings so my sisters and I grew up knowing every word and loving it.
@nabi718 3 жыл бұрын
The Land of Cockaigne reminds me of a song I learned in elementary school from the California Gold Rush... "Big Rock Candy Mountain"
@baileyanderson6824 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a whole family of folk songs that have similar themes of an imaginary paradise, like the Norwegian-American “Oleana” about the supposed easy life in the New World that never materialized.
@MarkBonneaux 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNefqtB5zN66eoU.html Tom Chapin
@lourdeswhitener9713 2 жыл бұрын
I love that song!!!
@mommachupacabra 3 жыл бұрын
When my kids were little, I used to make a Gingerbread Dreidle for a centerpiece - with a removable top, and I'd fill it with a mix of Chanukah Gelt and "all-sorts" candies (mail order. Love the stuff.)
@namedrop721 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a super cute idea for kids.
@pennyforyourthots 3 жыл бұрын
"Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel, I made you out of gingerbread" doesn't quite have the same ring to it...
@mariahiggins-burke4295 2 жыл бұрын
Allsorts from England are the best!
@joanhelenak 2 жыл бұрын
What is Gelt?
@mommachupacabra 2 жыл бұрын
@@joanhelenak The gold foil covered chocolate coins used as a traditional bidding coin in the Dreidle game (four sided top you spin to play)
@smileyface2987 3 жыл бұрын
We could throw a massive dinner party and we all single handedly invite Max just so he becomes the MOST invited dinner guest in the world
@redofthewolves 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about your videos is that your background in entertainment and experience with voice acting really comes through. It creates this really special combination of experienced voice work and comedy with your genuine personality and style of presentation. That must be the marketing background haha
@thebratqueen 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the accuracy of the gingerbread given to Sir Walter "Rather a Wally" Rahleigh. It's these little details that take the videos from good to great. *chef's kiss*
@mercycunningham2813 Жыл бұрын
A year after I have to chime in that pfeffer (pepper) in medival germany didn't mean pepper at all but was used for all kind of exotic spices.
@nhmooytis7058 3 жыл бұрын
What a great channel! I love history and I love gingerbread. Ever had pepparkakor, Swedish gingerbread? Num num!
@beardlessodin945 3 жыл бұрын
Max suppeth upon Gyngyrbredde with spices sweete and hoote, T'was assembled fromme a booke he read, and lyke it he did not! Max quaffeth Calyfornya Wyne, and drams of spirits wharm, He cooketh throughout Yule tyme, and baketh up a storm! Happy Holidays, Max! I love your content and I'm so happy that you're picking up plenty of steam on KZfaq! Good luck to you and keep up the amazing work! All the best to you and yours and best wishes for a safe and happy 2021! Happy Holidays to everyone else as well! Have a safe and happy New Year everyone!
@namedrop721 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your poem
@beardlessodin945 3 жыл бұрын
@@namedrop721 I appreciate your compliment, friend! Have yourself an awesome day!
@cova4218 3 жыл бұрын
Your Coffee Talk impression has made my day.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
I worry the kids won’t get the reference 🤣
@DrinkYourNailPolish 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@benkohut3121 3 жыл бұрын
I fucking love how friendly and polite Max looks
@bv905 3 жыл бұрын
Not only would I enjoy a dinner party with you, I'd love to cook with you! Have you considered having an interactive cook along? I think this would be fun to do with gingerbread or something similar.
@isabellp.5730 3 жыл бұрын
Max: puts a quote from Canterbury Tales Me, an English lit. Major: **internal suffering and flashbacks intensify**
@anonvideo738 3 жыл бұрын
Use this gingerbread man to point out where the bad canterbury tales touched you
@Max-nb6hf 3 жыл бұрын
“Coffee Talk with: Max Miller”
@ellencameron3775 3 жыл бұрын
Like buttah.
@a_tired_wendigo Жыл бұрын
The dramatic flair you bring is equally good to the cooking and history
@historianalex 3 жыл бұрын
Your German pronounciation is really good, my respects! And thanks for another Forme of Cury recipe. Greetings from southern Germany; we still have the Lebkuchenhaus (Gingerbread houses) and Spekulatius (bisquits with a lot of spices in them molded from those carved molds you mentioned) around Christmastime. And Nürnberg is still famous for their Lebkuchen, as is Lübeck for their Marzipan. Thank you!
@fedra76it 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Max, if dinner parties could actually take place, you would be my ideal guest, and we could discuss cuisine, history and etymology all the time (you being way more informed than I am, but I am a very curious person, always keen on learning). Maybe, once the damn virus has been defeated, you and your husband will visit Italy, and such a dream might come true :) I have issues with ginger, which tastes really "pungent" to me, yet I think that these candies, using a slightly lower amount of ginger, might really be appealing.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
We won’t need a second invitation to visit Italy 😁. Can’t wait for this virus to be history.
@PatriciaPerkowski 3 жыл бұрын
@Simona Righini......Yes!!!! I would be there!!! Max...a virtual dinner party what a great Patreon idea!!!!
@rejamrejam 3 жыл бұрын
The cruelty of a Tasting History video uploaded two minutes ago right as you were going back to sleep
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Bah! Sorry. It’ll be here when you wake.
@alexhurst3986 3 жыл бұрын
This made my Sunday! I freaking LOVE gingerbread. I have even made a gingerbread wine. I really can't say enough how much I love your show. Your quirky humour is perfect!
@weenacfeegle3086 3 жыл бұрын
I learned a new word today: "verklempt". Add that to Max's excellent cooking and history lessons.
@dawnmorningstar 3 жыл бұрын
Max explains his theory on "lenge" That's the exact thing that gets you invited to dinner parties! At least my dinner party!
@froggyfur1954 3 жыл бұрын
Best. Coffee. Talk. Impression. EVER.
@Lucius1958 3 жыл бұрын
He missed an opportunity when he mentioned the Discord channel: *"Cawfee, Dawgs, Dawghters; y'know, no big whoop..."*
@irmese06 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me about springerle molds! One day I'd like to try baking some spiced bread in one of those big antique ones too.
@lukeparthemore5042 3 жыл бұрын
I've cooked for decades, worked in restaurants, and have hundreds of cookbooks, including European. I've never seen or heard of long pepper until today.
@liljohnnotbigjohn 3 жыл бұрын
For the record: you can come to literally any dinner party I throw after the gdamn plague is under control.
@jennpro5008 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect impression of “Linda” ! Mike Meyers would be proud 😂
@Idolstarcynder 2 жыл бұрын
Found my absolute favourite episode so far! Not only because scorbunny in the background is freaking adorable but i like gingerbread :3
@kaiabea280 3 жыл бұрын
I’m keeping a mental tally of how many videos he can fit “bedight” into and it’s wonderful 😂
@killergm6962 3 жыл бұрын
OK, the Coffee Talk reference has convinced me you are indeed a child of the 1980s (even if you don't at all look your age)!
@KetchupwithMaxandJose 3 жыл бұрын
He’s definitely a child of the 80s 😙
@lisamoore6804 3 жыл бұрын
My grandma had Springerle molds, she gave them to my Aunt before she died. I miss the Springerle cookies she used to make, she got the recipe and molds from her mother who was from Germany.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
At least they’re still in the family.
@frauleintrude6347 3 жыл бұрын
Try to make good use of your aunts molds. Dough consists of just eggs, sugar and flour, a bit of baking soda or potash and we like to add ground anis seeds. In former times Springerle was called Gebildbrot: bread showing a picture. They even coloured the cookies after baking - pictures telling stories from the bible. But beware Springerle can be firm as rocks after baking. They will get a bit softer in time. They are quite easy to make, the only thing is you have to let the unbaked cookies rest to dry for a few hours before baking or they will not jump = springen. To jump: they built a so called foot and puff up.
@lisamoore6804 3 жыл бұрын
@@frauleintrude6347 I don't have the molds myself, there's no way my Aunt would let them out of her sight, lol. They are likely really old. Thank you for the history on them.
@MossyMozart 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisamoore6804 - Make them WITH your Auntie! Show an interest and they might one day come your way.
@lisamoore6804 3 жыл бұрын
@@MossyMozart I would but I live 900 miles from her, lol. I'll try to do that when the covid thing is over.
@Maniafilia Жыл бұрын
Curses upon the heads of the ones that don't invite you to feast parties! I love your channel, even when i can't make the recepies bc I'm vegetarian, lactose intolerant and cant eat gluten as well my taste and smell being partially distorted thanks to covid. I like really fun the history and stories you tell and the importance of food in the world. I miss eating, the pleasure of enjoying a meal, as well the memories that certain dishes brought me, the cultural foods and many other things, but I find enjoyment in watching your channel and being able to enjoy food even if is not eating it. Eating sometimes makes me really sad and makes me cry, but your videos are awesome and make me happy. So thanks, thanks for the work you do, that u educate about it and make it funny! Hope you have a lovely celebrations and keeping enjoying food all your life!
@t.grimes9973 2 жыл бұрын
Not many documentaries make me LOL, but this did. Thanks, Max Miller. Your humor is amusing:)
@dawneyestone1851 3 жыл бұрын
That Mike Myers impression was spot on. Well done, sir.
@stijn2472 3 жыл бұрын
4:59 That spatula is delightful.
@NimbleNeedles Жыл бұрын
Watching this a year later and hope you got your mold. If not, let me know, you can often find them here in thrift shops in Europe (so maybe not medieval) One little note here that I think deserves a little more research. Honey cakes have been popular since the Roman times and since both the very important (and imperial regulated) honey harvest would always be towards the end of the year and it wouldn't perish either, it was a very important staple for the long colder months - ex the exotic spices of course. While I don't know myself, I could well imagine that these honey cakes developed into the many modern variations we see all across central Europe these days. So, maybe a roman honey cake recipe in the future ^^
@bluefaery1865 10 ай бұрын
Since the days of King David.
@alexrafe2590 Жыл бұрын
Max with your fascination of gingerbread, the next time you go to England you should visit the Lake District. The area is known for its gingerbread, which most of the shops devoted to Lake District knickknacks sell. It’s not like any other gingerbread you’ll have encountered before.
@MoogieCripsyFries Жыл бұрын
I recommend the Grasmere Gingerbread Shop in the Lake District! I'm really into gingerbread as well and this was so good but very different to the gingerbread back home that I'm used to. As an American, I'd never had anything like it before!
@lizacucco Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this looks a lot like the Lake District gingerbread!
@MoogieCripsyFries Жыл бұрын
@@lizacucco I thought the same thing, so when I saw Alex's comment it reminded me of the gingerbread I had in the Lake District. 😊
@NotTheWheel 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what makes gingery, cinnamon, nutmeg flavors so ingrained with the autumn and winter seasons.
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure when the connection came about but it definitely is there now.
@mamadragon2581 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because they're such warming flavors; good against the cold. Of course, there's nothing like an ice-cold ginger beer in the summer...
@HilaryB. 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe those goods were seasonal and as they were imported, just happened to be shipped around the Christmas season. I haven't heard that anywhere, just pure conjecture on my part
@EmilyKinny 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Mama Dragon, especially because ginger is a historically known remedy against colds and general illness, which tends to crop up more when it's cold. Actually, isn't cinnamon also a "folk" cure for a lot of cold-weather-related ailments like infections and viruses? -- I looked it up and yes, yes it is.
@duckmama 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they were/are considered "warming" spices in various medicinal traditions. Supposed to increase heat in the body as opposed to "cooling" foods like cucumbers and such. Not a professional, I just know a lot of herbalists and traditional medicine enthusiasts
@tarotlibrarian1552 3 жыл бұрын
"Bedight." *takes a drink*
@amydavidoff4900 2 жыл бұрын
Kourabiedes, a Greek cookie often made for Greek Orthodox Easter, get their clove flavor from whole cloves inserted before baking. The clove flavor is picked up very well by the cookie
@maciejtybus3030 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I'm from Toruń, Poland and the tradition of making medieval style gingerbread in all shapes and sizes is still alive here. And yes, even compared to the ones made in Prague and Nürnberg, they're absolutely delicious 🙂
@estoy1001 3 жыл бұрын
Fun facts: The medieval Carmina Burana contains a drinking song/poem whose first line is Ego sum abbas Cucaniensis (I am the abbot of Cockaigne), which the composer Carl Orff included in his musical work of the same name. For comparison, the American version of Cockaigne is The Big Rock Candy Mountain. Ego sum abbas Cucaniensis, et consilium meum est cum bibulis, et in secta Decii voluntas mea est, et qui mane me quesierit in taberna, post vesperam nudus egreditur, et sic denudatus veste clambit: Wafna, wafna! quid fecisti sors turpissima? Nostre vite gaudia abstulisti omnia! (roughly) I am the Abbot of Cockaigne And my Assembly is drunkards, I wish to be in Decius' (the god of dice games) Order; Find me at the Tavern in the morning- after Vespers, one would leave naked, and would thus cry out: Woe! Woe! Vilest Fate, what have you done? You have taken all my life 's joys away! See also The Drinkers' or Gamblers' Mass en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinkers_Mass
@iansmith4702 3 жыл бұрын
Before ever watching this video, my father and I made this recipe as an experiment. We were unsure about the whole cloves. So we kept it off of the first ones we tried. We agreed that it was missing something. The whole clove is exactly what it was missing.
@kirishimaharuto22 2 жыл бұрын
the moment at 10:40 was so wholesome i actually felt joy. I love this guy so much and the videos are so great and interesting definitely one of my best findings of all time in yt
@asklar 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you casually snuck in "bedight" as per the previous episode 🤣
@joshcarson2879 3 жыл бұрын
Before this video, I didn't know gingerbread could be cake-like; I've always had/made it like a firm biscuit
@Southernbelle2978 3 жыл бұрын
Same I was shook
@steve7745 2 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend german Pfeffernüßen then, so tasty and rich, like a little chewy gingerbread cake cookie
@michellebender9434 Жыл бұрын
Oh the cake like gingerbread is sooooooookoo yummmmm
@lordship988 3 жыл бұрын
Gingerbread is called "pepparkaka" in swedish, a little fun fact :) Pepparkaka means pepper cake in direct translation.
@jesperbostrom1879 3 жыл бұрын
Pepper cake or pepper cookie*
@lordship988 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesperbostrom1879 Sant
@TastingHistory 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that! Just like those Germans with pfefferkuchen.
@lordship988 3 жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory Indeed, merry Christmas and a happy new year to you Max.
@ragnkja 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesperbostrom1879 “Cookie” just means “small cake” :)
@danacarpendersketoloworno2043 3 жыл бұрын
MAX! You have cleared up a mystery for me! In Mrs. Rombauer's Classic, The Joy of Cooking, recipes she considered especially best-in-class were tagged "Cockaigne." Now I know why! Thank you!!
@nancyalywahby2784 2 жыл бұрын
When my copy of the Joy of Cooking fell apart from use I searched and got a copy of the classic, not the new one.
@AutumnSun140 2 жыл бұрын
*Fun fact:* the "insulting gingerbread" picture that you used, is like a classic birthday cake I Denmark, mostly at children's birthdays. I don't know if it's popular in other places as well, but we call it kagemand (cakeman) and it's always decorated with candy and that long stringy candy for hair. And the most fun part is that before you serve it, all the children scream as loud as they can, as an adult cuts the throat of the cake. Great fun 🎉
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