With Salandit as a starter, it would be the first one that would need to have a higher female ratio. Salazzle is a favorite of mine so I’d definitely choose it out of those.

All dog starters. Growlithe, Yamper and Rockruff.

0:09 Chikorita may be the worst in gen 2 games, but the best in my heart

So I've actually been thinking of how I'd adapt elements of a Pokémon-esque setting into a D&D game, and your thought experiment about focusing on things other than just type help me realize a way to handle "starters" if thats a thing i want to adapt, by focusing on the three pillars of combat, exploration, and roleplay instead of different creature types. Probably not what you intended, but helpful nonetheless!

I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen a starter trio who have all the same secondary type, possibly gaining it on the final evolution only. It seems like the best way to get a starter with dragon type while still staying balanced with the others and semi-consistent with what they've done before.

I've personally always liked the idea of having three choices for a starter town and then be given a pokeball to catch whatever is in the "route one" for that town

I have a fan region i made a few months back that unironically had almost the same rock flying fighting trio. It was mankey, rhyhorn, and zubat

2:18 errrm akshully that's the wrong stone for lampent 🤓☝️

I love all the trio concepts in this video but idk why I just ADORE the slowpoke/houndour/shroomish trio, it’s just so pleasing to look at

I think for a game that would be either slower paced or starting at a higher level, Steel - Dragon - Fairy would be an interesting grouping.

13:38 That's a really interesting idea in my opinion, I'd love to see it!

Gogoat, Arcanine, Carracosta Deerling, Litleo, Bidoof (change to normal/water), with bonus 4th option Helioptile Bounsweet, Fletchling (change to fire/flying), Tympole Imperfect triangle, but, Shinx, Trapinch, Rookidee

I personaly like Steel/Fighting/Fairy, is it perfect? No by 1 type interaction, but i think ot can be rly cool, a Warrior, a Paladin and a Wizard sounds pretry cool

I had this one idea similar to the one mentioned at the end of the video. Basically, it would be an Ice/Psychic/Electric triangle, so none of the types interact. Plus, just like the Grass/Fire/Water using the additive colour model, Ice/Psychic/Electric would use the subtractive colour model. I imagine it would be great for a game for more experienced players who still want the freedom to choose a starter, but don't need an introduction to type effectiveness. (Plus, all three types are cool.) My idea used Fakemon for this: an Ice-type rabbit who can make an aurora, a Psychic-type cat genie, and an Electric-type squid with light-up sunglasses.

I decided to just create my own Fakemon instead of using the existing Pokémon. I made two sets of starters, the first set is Flying, Rock and Fighting while the second set of starters is the traditional Grass, Fire and Water. And just think about it, the Flying/Rock/Fighting type are considered physical types. So they’re basically the physical type triangle counterpart of Grass/Fire/Water I’m also considering giving each set an additional fourth starting Type. Obviously the fourth starting type would be Electric for Grass/Fire/Water. As for Flying/Rock Fighting I’m gonna pick Normal Type, as Normal is resisted by Rock, takes neutral hits and does normal damage to Flying and is weak against Fighting

The "Rock Paper Scissors" joke could still theoretically work with Rock-Flying-Fighting. The rock would be rock, Paper would be a paper airplane, gaining flying, and Scissors would be fighting.

I honestly didn't think you would select Pokémon like the way you did. Love your vids!❤

Idea: you choose where you live in Pokemon. The game has level scaling and you just have to catch whatever Pokemon lives around the town you live in. Or you just start out at the nursery with an egg that gives you any random baby Pokemon (No psudeos, legendaries, or anything too overpowered.)

I still think that a grass dragon water dragon fire dragon starter trio would be cool

These are such good starters my fav were the poison added ones

Great vid with great ideas! 👏 I especially love the poison trio and the thought of a villain team posing (I almost misspelled that as “poisoning” 😂) a legit threat to the player too! Plenty of lore potential for them investigating or surviving in a volcanic wasteland too 👍

I was wokring on a like redux/AU Kalos thing for my own enjoyment that starts in Snowbelle with Noibat, Pancham, and Binacle as the starter trio! I made sure to give them each moves to exploit the starter good against them's 4x weakness (like Ice Punch for Pangoro, Giga Drain for Noivern, and Play Rough for Barbaracle or something like that)

Poison, ice, Electric and they have the colors of the secondary colors, but gain the other secondary colors as they evolve

Speaking of the hazardous environment (HEV lol) starter trio, the toxic setting limiting the amount of Pokémon would unironically have made Dexit sting less. Like it's still bad but at least you have a story reason for not bringing back old favourites. (Though if they had taken this approach I don't think many fairy types would have realistically survived)

Love this! I think for my next playthrough of BW I'll use the Slowpoke, Houndour, Shroomish line as the starters

Loved the idea behind the Poison starter trio, though it might be carried by the fact I love Glimmora so the idea of having Glimmet as a starter is quite thrilling. Regardless, fun video!

i LOVE the poison trio! i just did a poison type gym leader run, and all three of those pokemon are super fun and awesome would absolutely use them all again. the ground type bad guys is similarly great... ground was a massive issue for me that run.

These triangles are all pretty dope, ngl. Especially loved the all poison trio and the new trio for the classic triangle.

this topic will never stop being fascinating to me

I love ur content. Keep it up. I love Pokemon so much

For the past few months, I've been working on a region based on the Arabian Peninsula. The main theme of this region are fossils with the evil team wanting to use them to take over the region. Even the main Legendary trio are fossils, including the first ever ghost/rock type combo. The types used in the starter trio are ground, steel, and ice. They are based on an Arabian tahr, a Yemeni spiny-tailed lizard, and a camel respectively. When they evolve, they become ground/dark, steel/electric, and ice/rock, all resisting the many sandstorms throughout the region. There are a total of 114 new Pokemon in this Arabian Peninsula themed region, which includes regionals. Btw for the ice/rock camel, I did not copy Pokedex Fillers. I came up with that idea months before he did. Just want to make that clear.

I loved all of these and playing a game with any of these would be really interesting!

I would love to see you doing ultimate favourite Pokémon picker, kinda as a chill video. Also loved the video!

Something I think would be cool with a paradox starter is having it evolve depending on the time period. While paradox forms don’t technically evolve like their current counterparts, it would be pretty cool to just be given a Phanpy at the start of the game and having it evolve into either Donphan, Great Tusk, or Iron Treads depending on when in the timeline you currently are. Same goes for the Volcarona line, or any others that might have paradox forms in the future.

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4:41 okay, now i want a pokemon spinoff game set in a fantasy kingdom with knights, dragons, and magic where we're the odd one out who's able to tame these wild beasts. While writing this, I got flashbacks to that Yu-Gi-Oh season when they went into a video game.

I’d love to see new evolutions to these two stage Pokémon, that can bring some cohesion and bring it up to starter stats 👀

About the high level dragon starter. Maybe simply have it stated that your character was a Gym Trainer before going on your journey. At the end of the journey maybe do what Black and white 2 had. A pokemon Tournament with random trainers with higher level pokemon. After the first tournament you can bring in more trainers from other regions or maybe special tournaments like a Gym leader tournament or champion tournament. After the tournament is the elite 4 fights

People hate Chikorita in gen 2 for the same reasons they love Charmander in gen 1. I feel like the only difference is that Meganium isn’t cool-looking, just cute.

I'm designing a fakemon region where the starter trio is pure fighting, flying, and rock in their base forms, and evolve into fighting//grass, flying//fire, and rock//water in their final forms.

Silvally with a grass memory, silvally with a fire memory, silvally with a water memory

Honestly I would have done with Normal what you did with ghost but make them specialize in attack, defense, or speed. Though with speed you would have to have another secondary stat like special attack/defense being decent to make up. Basically the classic, Tank, glass cannon, and fighter roles.

I always keep in mind that in pokemon most people are normal. So whenever I think of a character I keep that in mind. Everyone follow diffent paths, you could have received a random pokemon as a gift from your normal family, or maybe you are from a battle maniac family that gives something more that line. Maybe your family is a dragon tamer clan. Or you are a punk person that got your own rough partner. Trainer class are something I love. Many tell about their kind of lifes, so my favorite type of rp is made around trainer class.

I also was really interested by this topic, so I think here would be a good spot to share some alt starter trios I would like to see happen (doing this before watching too so if I have the same answers that's probably why) Strong Pseudo-Starter Trio: Gible -24> Gabite -48> Garchomp Nacli -24> Naclstack -38> Garganacl Rookidee -18> Corvisquire -38> Corviknight I had two parameters for this (and all other) categories: a) They all had to be purely 3-stage level up evos b) Evolution levels should be rolled out at a similar pace to starters I think this grouping makes the most sense to me in terms of strength. Ground-Rock-Flying is the type trio, and Garganacl getting Salt Cure helps it to counter the Steel Flying Corviknight. Not a coincidence you see these mons on many ingame teams, they're strong, you can get them either early or midgame, and they evolve like a starter with some valuable traits that set them apart from other mons. Garganacl and Corviknight are a bit samey, but other than that I feel good about saying these three starters would be hard to choose from given how good each of them are. I like how these three line up in terms of evo levels as well, with Rookidee evolving earlier and Gabite evolving later. I’d say Corviknight is the weakest out of the three overall at 495 BST even with the coveted steel/flying typing due to it staying pure flying before, and Garch is definitely the strongest at 600 BST. Garganacl may be at only 500 BST, but it has a great ability in Purifying Salt and a better movepool/stat distribution than Corviknight’s line, which lands it in the middle. So it makes sense to have the evo levels reflect that. I also like having them come online later rather than sooner so that starters aren’t overcentralized. Starter-Like Trio: Bounsweet -18> Steenee -Stomp (29)> Tsareena Mareep -15> Flaaffy -30> Ampharos Fletchling -17> Fletchinder -35> Talonflame I added an additional parameter for this category: They needed to be in the Medium Slow EXP group which is a big reason why starters are so good ingame. Grass-Electric-Flying is the type trio, though you could argue that's redundant with Fire Flying typing. The Luxray line is similar to Amphy’s line, but I didn’t choose it here bc of redundancy in role. Each one of these mons is either a physical, special, or mixed attacker. Tsareena and Ampharos hit 510 BST while Talonflame sits at 499 which is made up for by its blazing speed. I know Tsareena's evo doesn't line up with the rules, but it's doesn't change anything about how the pokemon functions to have Steenee just evolve at 29 instead of needing a level up move. Queenly Majesty is an easy choice for Tsareena, great for protecting it from priority that it might face. Gale Wings is a good get for Talonflame but it a) is really broken and b) is counterintuitive with Queenly Majesty so Flame Body seems like a more punishing choice for this matchup. Static on Amphy punishes Talon for using it's primarily physical moveset and pairs well with Flame Body which Amphy isn't affected by. I think all three are different enough that it would make sense to see all of them as starters together! Personal Choice (I mean all of them are but for these I’m just ignoring the rules): Houndour -24> Houndoom -Mega Stone> Mega Houndoom Honedge -35> Doublade -Dusk Stone> Aegislash Fidough -26> Dachsbun -???> Dachsbun evo This one I had to grapple with for a minute, because I wanted a specific thing that just wasn’t happening with the mons I actually liked to use. I enjoy the design model of making starters totally weak to each other, so that when you’re fighting a rival with a type-weak starter, you must switch out or strategize. So I decided to count Mega Houndoom, under the caveat that it was scaled back to houndoom's original 500 BST to match the others listed here (with houndoom itself at like 410 BST or something) Along with Dachsbun getting an evo that would put it on par with the other 2. The type trio here is Fire Dark -> Steel Ghost -> Fairy (Fire Immunity). Cool thing about Dachsbun is that it can retaliate against any fire moves with a +2 Body Press hitting supereffectively with it's highest stat into Houndoom's lowest stat (defense). These mons are all easy to love and use, I also think it would get even better with some stat tweaking and level adjustment. Anyways thanks if you made it this far, looking forward to seeing what this vid has to say about it!

For the dragon starters, Hydreigon, Dragapult, and Kommo-o would form a secondary type triangle

mankey, pawniard, and dreepy might be an insane starter combo

I like the idea of a starter trio with koraidon/miraidon roles, basically hm functtion from the jump. E.g, a skiddo who can run fast, jump high, and maybe rock climb. A cetoddle that can surf from the jump(you cant convince me its not still bouyant). Finally an archops that can glide carrying you, like hisuian braviary. Ideally this would be a new trio altogether, at the same time i really wanna give it to gogoat because i love gogoat.

I know there’s no three Pokémon that it would make sense to do this with, but I think it would be really cool to have a starter trio where one of the starters is Grass Fire, one of them is Fire Water, and one of them is Water Grass (or those same types but arranged differently, depending on what kinds of starters they are, and thus which type would make more sense to be their primary type)

You know i kinda dig the toxic enviorment trio and i also kinda dig a more hazardous industrial region, The evil team could become a major threat in the story especially in an enviorment with more limited team building options and the starters being 4x weak to Ground. Plus the evil team can be called something like Team Fissure. Also if Salandit is a starter then it would have to be a guarenteed female because because of obvious reasons.

Between all those pokemon triangles some i'd choose are: Slowking/Slowbro; Garchomp or Kommo-o; Cofagrigus or Runerigus; Glimmora; Annihilape (i've used this 'mon a lot in both of my plays in SV) Honorable mention goes for Midday Lycanroc. In actual games i didn't even use it at all but in Pokemon Infinite Fusions i use it a lot since is the fastest between it and its Midnight form.

10 seconds in and there's already Chikorita hate? You'll be hearing from her lawyer (its me)

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ShepskyDad should do Dual type triangles i already thought of one: Steel/Pyschic--->Rock/Poison--->Fire/Bug

Themes matter as much if not more than balance. If it was for a romhack, evolution levels and merhods could always be patched, as would learnsets and base stats. I love the Fight/Flight/Freeze trio based on instinctive responses (can't remember which hack/fangame had that one), the D&D Warrior/Mage/Thief of gen6 and the Metal Gear Solid of gen 5 (Solid Snivy, Revolver Oshwalot and Pig Boss).

+1 for the Chained Echoes reference.

I like Fairy-Fighting-Steel as a secondary line even if fighting doesn’t resist steel

Maybe a region where the starters are Machop, Abra, and Gastly but if you wanna evolve your starter, you have to trade with your rival and give them the evo too. And also maybe buff the Machop line because Gengar and Alakazam are pretty powerful and it would need something to give it an edge against Gastly. Like turning Gastly into a ghost/dark type and giving Machop Scrappy or something. Ghost/dark Gastly would still be pretty sick too honestly with STAB boosted Dark Pulse.

If you look down at the video it says Mandjtv

A trio of meowths: you can choose between regular, alolan, or galarian. Same can be done with diglet, where you could choose between regular, alolan, or wiglet. Another idea is weather-based trios: for example, ninetales, hippowdon and peliper

I'm gonna use this to use a random starter.

I really like the poison trio with ground evil team

eiscue and carnivine are goated pokemon.

I'd make a starter trio of german shepherd, husky, and... well... dad?

Nice one

Poiple is a starter, so you could use that on the dragon one, right? Also for the steel, rock, fire: glimorra has nothing going for it, whereas salazzle can poison both of the others and revaroom is immune to the poison from glimorra.

what about a starter quad or quint?

Personally my proposed ground, rock, fire starters are Rockruff Houndour And Mudbray IDK they all seem very “starter like” to me plus they are all domesticated animals. It’s a cute, appealing starter trio.

stretching from trio starter. i think duo starter of ghost-dragon would be neat with having similarity weak to itself. and the 'villain' is using either dark or fairy. ghost could represent the balanced or defensive style, while dragon went all on offense and speed, giving absurd stats distribution. which further balanced by their villain counterpart, dark being 0.5x to ghost(constant difficulty) while fairy completely immune to dragons(spike in challenges). pokemon based around mythical-medieval settings i assume.

Well the project me and a friend have been cooking would have more of a starter web than a starter trio (3 options per type + eeveelutions) and trying to post the ENTIRE list of planned starters here would be a bit much but I’ll reveal a tiny sneak peek; Hisuian Growlithe (which gets dragon dance and head smash by level up when evolved), Shroomish, and Horsea are just one of the many trios you can think of within the planned starter list also of the several dozen or so pokemon available for starters, most of them will be buffed to roughly equivalent power; think around RU-UU. This is to avoid a common problem with games that give so many starter options: If you’re not doing a self imposed challenge, then why pick anything but the strongest options, especially if the game says it’ll be hard? Also, because it’ll be an essentials game, I can just tweak starter evolution methods to all be available before the fourth badge. TL;DR starter trios are overrated, starter webs are where it’s at (also hisuian arcanine should get head smash via level up)

Please do another gym leader video, they are so goated

Rock/Flying/Fighting should be Rock, Paper Plane, Cross Chop.

Hey is there any type trios with ice and rock?

Lycanroc and Gogoar are two Pokemon i find absolutely great, instead i nearly don't like Beartic.

In an event of pokemon ultrasun/ultramoon the kahuna nanu gives a child a choice for their starter, letting them choose between. Alolan Meowth Alolan meowth Or alolan meowth And you help the child choose based on the personalities that the meowths have. I think thats the only example of a budget starters in the game other than pikachu/eevee (who ist count aince theyre special cases), ralts from wally (which again is a unique case as he captured it himself) and i guess hop's wooloo

Tbh Chickorita is very overhated, it’s cute and that’s all it needs to be. Tbh I think that starters need some more simplicity, and I feel like chikorita is like so simple it feels good to see it, because of how complicated Pokémon is nowadays. Don’t get me wrong, I love gen 9 but just feels good to have a change in pace

How about video of legendary pokemon substitutes based on types. Ex: Dialga - Duralodon/its evolution Palkia - Kingdra Giratina - Dragapult

My Golbats usually evolve into Crobat 1 or 2 lvls after Zubat evolving into Golbat. Just saying.

0:09 you mean worst as in battle right? I won't stand slander for the adorable pear dino (but if you are talking about in game then yeah Chikorita is terribly weak)

I choose Shroomish at 4:12, Garchomp at 5:25, Yamask at 6:15, Salandit at 8:02, Great tusk at 10:30 Iron bundle at 11:00 and Mankey at 11:53

I just wish they would have given us differeny trios in each game. The fire, grass and water is so boring now! Fighting, psychic and dark would be fun. Ground, ice and steel would be interesting. Or grass, bug and rock to make things unique.

You think Chikoria's the best?

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Fire water rock weather starters

Okay but where is dog starter trio?

CHIKARITA IS THE GOAT

This just reminded me of something about the Pokémon type effectiveness chart that I hate. Why is Bug not weak to Fighting? But it’s weak to Rock. I get that yes a rock can crush a bug. But a lot of bugs hide and live under rocks. But the Fighting type consists of a lot of kicking and punching attacks. I mean come on if you were to kick or punch a bug it would die. Gamefreak pleas make Bug weak to Fighting and Rock neutral lol.

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What do you think of mine? Spheal, Trapinch, Aron Spheal replaces Water and beats Trapinch but is weak to Aron Trapinch replaces Fire and beats Aron but is weak to Spheal Aron replaces Grass and beats Spheal but is weak to Trapinch

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Immediately throwing shade at chikorita I thought you were better than this 😔

Disliked for Chikorita hate. Just because it's the worst in it's generation doesn't mean that it's the worst overall.

How dare you say that Chikorota is the worst starter😤

🎉❤ new video I love starter content

The Chikorita Slander is crazy I'm unsubbing

I’ve said it once i’ve said it a thousand times chickorita isn’t bad johto is just grass-phobic

I got one Dark-Psychic-Bug, though not complete but Bug resists Dark, and Dark is immune to Psychic